Could it be"lost at sea"? Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:29:20 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Where did the Walender family move to? Looks to me like it says Obestämd ort (indeterminate/unknown location) Regards, Brian On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Naomi Swanson wrote: > Obestamd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just looked a Wiki and found Obestämd is a Swedish word - indefinite. But it has an arrow north of Stockholm but not as an indication of town - pointing toward the water,:} Hope this helps Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:29:20 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Where did the Walender family move to? Looks to me like it says Obestämd ort (indeterminate/unknown location) Regards, Brian On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Naomi Swanson wrote: > Obestamd ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I'm trying to locate Johan Henrik Henricksson's (B; 21 March 1853, Sörby, Landeryd församling) immigration information. Below is the move in/out record for him in Vårdsbergs Parish. Johan Henrik Henriksson, Sweden, Östergötland Church Records, 1555-1911; index 1616-1860, Vårdsbergs församling B I Inflyttningslängder 1, 1835-1882. Omfattar 1835-1860, 1866-11-09--1882. 1881-Image 117 of 122, line 5 Seems he left in April of 1881 for North America. I was hoping to locate him in the United States (or elsewhere?) but seem to be having a tough time with this. -- Thanks, Henry

Thank you Barbara for both of your responses. I don't think they were "lost at sea" as one of the sons emigrated to the U.S. in 1897. I will just have to hunt for them - this is not the first time I had to hunt for a family. Naomi in Illinois ------------------------------------ Barbara Young wrote Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:02:34 Could it be"lost at sea"? Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:29:20 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Where did the Walender family move to? Looks to me like it says Obestämd ort (indeterminate/unknown location) Regards, Brian

Thank you Brian. I never thought to look up the word in my Swedish dictionary. Sorry about the not spelling Obestämd corrctly. Thanks for your help. Naomi in Illinois --------------------------------------------- Brian Eberling wrote Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:29:20 Looks to me like it says Obestämd ort (indeterminate/unknown location) Regards, Brian

Looks to me like it says Obestämd ort (indeterminate/unknown location) Regards, Brian On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> wrote: > Obestamd

I am trying to figure out to where the Nils Johansson Walendar family moved. To me it looks like Obestamd but I cannot find any place by that name - so I must be reading the location incorrectly, I need help. The family is the first family listed at Visseltofta AI:11 (1873-1878) Image 198 / page 223 (AID: v101833.b198.s223, NAD: SE/LLA/13456) Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. Naomi in Illinois

Thank you Naomi. I just couldn't figure it out and I read his age as 52 and not 59. Maybe I need new glasses? I am also from Illinois, presently living in Colorado. Thanks again. Walt -----Original Message----- From: Naomi Swanson Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:55 AM To: sweden@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Nils Ericsson d 1778 in Kristdala Parish, Kalmar län, CI:2, page 265, GID 90.46.85400 Walt - It looks like his date of death was 15 March and he was 59 years old. The line reads: Nils Ericsson i (?) (?) 15 Mar and the next column reads 59 (which is his age). Hope this helps Naomi in Illinois ----------------------------------------- Walt DeWaele wrote Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:28:11 I am unable to read the exact death date other then it is 1778. It appears that he was 52 years old. I would appreciate it if someone could help me. Thanks. Walt ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Walt - It looks like his date of death was 15 March and he was 59 years old. The line reads: Nils Ericsson i (?) (?) 15 Mar and the next column reads 59 (which is his age). Hope this helps Naomi in Illinois ----------------------------------------- Walt DeWaele wrote Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:28:11 I am unable to read the exact death date other then it is 1778. It appears that he was 52 years old. I would appreciate it if someone could help me. Thanks. Walt

The normal way was to take a feeder ship from Sweden or Norway to Hull, which is on the east coast of England, and then a train across England to Liverpool. A feeder ship directly to Liverpool would have to make a long extra lourney either around Scotland, or around England through the English channel.. See http://www.norwayheritage.com/articles/templates/voyages.asp?articleid=28&zoneid=6 / Lennart Elg

I am unable to read the exact death date other then it is 1778. It appears that he was 52 years old. I would appreciate it if someone could help me. Thanks. Walt

Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 21:47: > > What did Jonas Olofsson Swedberg die of at age 30, 20 Oct 1808? Record is at > Jämtland > Föllinge > Död (Deaths) > 1806 - 1861 (C:3) page 352 AD Föllinge C:3 (1806-1861) Image 1820 / page 178 (AID: v114450.b1820.s178, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052) Death date: 20 Oct 1808 Burial date: 23 Oct Text: married farmhand Jon Olofsson Svedberg Cause: "Hetsig feber" (strong/quick fever) Age: 30 years 1 month // Bo Johansson

Brenda wrote 2012-12-03 07:03: > > When leaving Sweden in 1902 and 1909 and arriving at Grimsby and Hull, > was train the type of transportation emigrants would take to Liverpool? Yes. // Bo Johansson

Hi Brenda, they would likely take a "feefer: ship from Sweden/Norway/DenmarK etc yo Liverpool. All the best Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda <brenda6@comcast.net> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:03:27 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [SWEDEN] Train Travel Emigration Question When leaving Sweden in 1902 and 1909 and arriving at Grimsby and Hull, was train the type of transportation emigrants would take to Liverpool? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is a link to a brief history of the Great Central Railway: http://www.exodus2013.co.uk/tag/great-central-railway/ There used to be a great site developed by Chris Tolley: Great Central Railway and Migration from Europe to North America, but I can't.find it. Maybe another List member can help. Janet On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Brenda <brenda6@comcast.net> wrote: > When leaving Sweden in 1902 and 1909 and arriving at Grimsby and Hull, was > train the type of transportation emigrants would take to Liverpool? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When leaving Sweden in 1902 and 1909 and arriving at Grimsby and Hull, was train the type of transportation emigrants would take to Liverpool?

Brenda wrote 2012-12-02 17:45: > > Was the soldier Olof Svedberg, Olof Jonsson's GRANDfather? And Olof > Jonsson's father, Jonas, kept the last name of Svedberg? --- Yes (at least in this birth record). BTW, I noticed in the HFL that Jonas died 1808 or 1809, and Christina Isacsdotter remarried 1811 to Nils Johansson, who took over as "torpare" // Bo Johansson > > From: "Bo Johansson" <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> > > Olof, born and baptised 24 nov 1806, parents farmhand Jonas Olofsson > Swedberg and wife Stina Isacsdotter in Norrgård. > > "Torpare" Olof Svedberg with family, including son Jonas and his family, > are found at Norrgård in AD Föllinge AI:3 (1801-1812) Image 160 / page > 11 (AID: v114436.b160.s11, NAD: SE/ÖLA/11052). > > Perhaps Olof Svedberg had been a soldier? > > Yes, in the birth record for Jon/Jonas 19 Sep 1778 at Norrgård, the > father is recorded as "dragon" (dragoon, soldier) Olof Svedberg. > AD Föllinge C:2 (1777-1805) Image 60 / page 7 (AID: v114449.b60.s7, NAD: > SE/ÖLA/11052).

ok:} Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: DianeLeMasson <dianelemasson@optonline.net> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:38:37 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder Hi Doesn't matter he sent it from his personal email he still sent it to this mailing list and it doesn't allow attachments. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Young" To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > ok:} > > Barbara > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brenda > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:24:09 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > > It was sent from his personal e-mail address. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara Young" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > > > > > >> Hi Brenda, > >> > >> If it was sent to rootsweb, they don't allow attachments. > >> > >> All the best > >> Barbara in MA > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ok:} Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda <brenda6@comcast.net> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:24:09 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder It was sent from his personal e-mail address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Young" To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder > Hi Brenda, > > If it was sent to rootsweb, they don't allow attachments. > > All the best > Barbara in MA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brenda, If it was sent to rootsweb, they don't allow attachments. All the best Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda <brenda6@comcast.net> To: jimpolson@shaw.ca, sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 17:59:48 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mantalslängder Jim, the attachment did not show for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Polson" To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:27 AM Subject: Mantalslängder > Dear List: > > I've just been helping a new-found 8th cousin from Sweden as she > begins her family research. Using doppvittnen and mantalslängder I > was able to dig up some ancestors for her outside the parish her > people came from. > > Naturally, she was then interested in mantalslängder and wanted to > know more about them, so I put together some brief notes for her. > > Would it be of any interest to anyone if I posted these notes on this > list? It's always seemed to me that mantalslängder are an underused > source. > > Jim Polson > Vancouver > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message