Brian Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the draft card privately? It might provide me more information. Naomi in Illinois ------------------------------------ Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 21:06:47 Hopefully it'll get you somewhere. He's the same guy you referenced in the 1900 census (address on the draft card matches his 1920 address in the census). I don't know why I didn't think of Halland. I just saw Holland and locked that into my brain. Regards, Brian On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. > > Naomi in Illinois > ---------------------------------- > > Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 > > Naomi, > > According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep > 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being > from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these > cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person > named usually filled them out themselves. > > Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. > > > Regards, > Brian >

> Please let me know if you this if you get it legible Bob Thanks > > Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 > > The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Popul?r" shows him going to Chicago. > > Efternamn: VELANDER > F?rnamn: JOH AUG > ?lder: 31 K?n: M > F?dd: 1875/1876 > F?rsamling: GILLBERGA L?n: S > Titel/Anm: > Utresehamn: G?TEBORG > Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 > Destination: CHICAGO ILL. > Med?kande: NEJ > K?llkod: 84:461:7049 > > > "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" > > Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. > > Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? > > http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc > > I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? > > http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Judy, > > I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? > > Naomi in Illinois > --------------------------------------- > > judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 > > Hi Naomi, > > "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" > > No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. > > "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" > > Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near L?ngserud parish. Look in the S?FFLE section of the following map. > > http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 > > Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? > > Record 2188743 > > Velander, Johan August > Inhyses > > b. 1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) > > Boy > > Kohls?ter. > Gillberga (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) > > Place of birth (original source): L?ngserud > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 -0600 > From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAL_5GSrF7wnrUJ_YFF_JaUZzZ7X4ez6YtNA+rbqjp6f1yJpHXQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Naomi, > > According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep > 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being > from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these > cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person > named usually filled them out themselves. > > Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. > > > Regards, > Brian > > . > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:17 PM, <judymo73b@comcast.net> wrote: >> Hi Naomi, >> >> I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in L?ngserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Asps?ter S?dra, Gillberga parish, V?rmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. >> >> DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": >> >> 18760927-621 >> >> Vellander, Johan August >> >> Asps?ter S?dra 1:2 >> >> Dead 2/8/1956. >> >> Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). >> >> Born 9/27/1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). >> >> Widower (11/25/1912). >> -------------- >> Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: >> Gillberga, S?ffle kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) >> >> Parish of birth in the records: >> L?ngserud (V?rmland) >> >> Source records: >> DB, FS / DOR 52-60 >> >> >> Emibas CD: >> >> The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. >> >> Post 780631 >> >> Velander, Johan August >> Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) >> >> b. 9/27/1876 >> >> Emigrated 8/16/1907 >> from K?ls?ter, Gillberga, V?rmlands l?n (V?rmland) >> to Nordamerika >> >> Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 >> >> Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 >> >> The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Popul?r" shows him going to Chicago. >> >> Efternamn: VELANDER >> F?rnamn: JOH AUG >> ?lder: 31 K?n: M >> F?dd: 1875/1876 >> F?rsamling: GILLBERGA L?n: S >> Titel/Anm: >> Utresehamn: G?TEBORG >> Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 >> Destination: CHICAGO ILL. >> Med?kande: NEJ >> K?llkod: 84:461:7049 >> >> >> "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" >> >> Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. >> >> Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? >> >> http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc >> >> I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? >> >> http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy >> >> >> Judy >> Orland Park, Illinois >> Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Hi Judy, >> >> I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? >> >> Naomi in Illinois >> --------------------------------------- >> >> judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 >> >> Hi Naomi, >> >> "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" >> >> No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. >> >> "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" >> >> Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near L?ngserud parish. Look in the S?FFLE section of the following map. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 >> >> Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? >> >> Record 2188743 >> >> Velander, Johan August >> Inhyses >> >> b. 1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) >> >> Boy >> >> Kohls?ter. >> Gillberga (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) >> >> Place of birth (original source): L?ngserud >> >> >> Judy >> Orland Park, Illinois >> Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:32:39 -0600 (CST) > From: Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <454419000.9292761354933959038.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs10> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Judy, > > This is the Johan August Velander that I have followed and he is the wrong person. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for came to the US in 1897 and was living in DeKalb, IL when he applied for a marriage license on 9 Aug 1898 so that he could marry Tilda Johnson. Her full name was Johanna Mathilda Gustafson. He went by John Welander in the US and then later I find his surname spelled Wellander. John Welander and his wife died in 1939 in DeKalb, IL. > > Naomi in Illinois > -------------------------------------------- > > judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:51 > > Hi Naomi, > > I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in L?ngserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Asps?ter S?dra, Gillberga parish, V?rmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. > > DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": > > 18760927-621 > > Vellander, Johan August > > Asps?ter S?dra 1:2 > > Dead 2/8/1956. > > Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). > > Born 9/27/1876 in L?ngserud (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland). > > Widower (11/25/1912). > -------------- > Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: > Gillberga, S?ffle kn (V?rmlands l?n, V?rmland) > > Parish of birth in the records: > L?ngserud (V?rmland) > > Source records: > DB, FS / DOR 52-60 > > > Emibas CD: > > The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. > > Post 780631 > > Velander, Johan August > Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) > > b. 9/27/1876 > > Emigrated 8/16/1907 > from K?ls?ter, Gillberga, V?rmlands l?n (V?rmland) > to Nordamerika > > Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 > > Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 > > The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Popul?r" shows him going to Chicago. > > Efternamn: VELANDER > F?rnamn: JOH AUG > ?lder: 31 K?n: M > F?dd: 1875/1876 > F?rsamling: GILLBERGA L?n: S > Titel/Anm: > Utresehamn: G?TEBORG > Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 > Destination: CHICAGO ILL. > Med?kande: NEJ > K?llkod: 84:461:7049 > > > "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" > > Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. > > Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? > > http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc > > I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? > > http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:36:57 -0600 (CST) > From: Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <865676289.9293081354934217711.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs10> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Brian, > > Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. > > Naomi in Illinois > ---------------------------------- > > Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 > > Naomi, > > According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep > 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being > from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these > cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person > named usually filled them out themselves. > > Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. > > > Regards, > Brian > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 21:06:47 -0600 > From: Brian Eberling <eberling@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Help with Johan August Welander moving out > record > To: sweden@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAL_5GSonus_cZJp7veBO-WY7fnL4zV1Jh_abpbO98fQ4JBE2gw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hopefully it'll get you somewhere. He's the same guy you referenced > in the 1900 census (address on the draft card matches his 1920 address > in the census). I don't know why I didn't think of Halland. I just > saw Holland and locked that into my brain. > > Regards, > Brian > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >> Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. >> >> Naomi in Illinois >> ---------------------------------- >> >> Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 >> >> Naomi, >> >> According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep >> 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being >> from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these >> cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person >> named usually filled them out themselves. >> >> Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. >> >> >> Regards, >> Brian >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SWEDEN list administrator, send an email to > SWEDEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SWEDEN mailing list, send an email to SWEDEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SWEDEN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 569 > **************************************

Hi Naomi, I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in Långserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Aspsäter Södra, Gillberga parish, Värmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": 18760927-621 Vellander, Johan August Aspsäter Södra 1:2 Dead 2/8/1956. Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (Värmlands län, Värmland). Born 9/27/1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland). Widower (11/25/1912). -------------- Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: Gillberga, Säffle kn (Värmlands län, Värmland) Parish of birth in the records: Långserud (Värmland) Source records: DB, FS / DOR 52-60 Emibas CD: The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. Post 780631 Velander, Johan August Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) b. 9/27/1876 Emigrated 8/16/1907 from Kålsäter, Gillberga, Värmlands län (Värmland) to Nordamerika Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Populär" shows him going to Chicago. Efternamn: VELANDER Förnamn: JOH AUG Ålder: 31 Kön: M Född: 1875/1876 Församling: GILLBERGA Län: S Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 Destination: CHICAGO ILL. Medåkande: NEJ Källkod: 84:461:7049 "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time ----- Original Message ----- Hi Judy, I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? Naomi in Illinois --------------------------------------- judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 Hi Naomi, "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near Långserud parish. Look in the SÄFFLE section of the following map. http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? Record 2188743 Velander, Johan August Inhyses b. 1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland) Boy Kohlsäter. Gillberga (Värmlands län, Värmland) Place of birth (original source): Långserud Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hopefully it'll get you somewhere. He's the same guy you referenced in the 1900 census (address on the draft card matches his 1920 address in the census). I don't know why I didn't think of Halland. I just saw Holland and locked that into my brain. Regards, Brian On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. > > Naomi in Illinois > ---------------------------------- > > Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 > > Naomi, > > According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep > 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being > from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these > cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person > named usually filled them out themselves. > > Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. > > > Regards, > Brian > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brian, Actually there is a Halland in Sweden. I will try and check this person out and see if he is the one I am looking for. Naomi in Illinois ---------------------------------- Brian Eberling wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:53:45 Naomi, According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person named usually filled them out themselves. Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. Regards, Brian

Hi Judy, This is the Johan August Velander that I have followed and he is the wrong person. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for came to the US in 1897 and was living in DeKalb, IL when he applied for a marriage license on 9 Aug 1898 so that he could marry Tilda Johnson. Her full name was Johanna Mathilda Gustafson. He went by John Welander in the US and then later I find his surname spelled Wellander. John Welander and his wife died in 1939 in DeKalb, IL. Naomi in Illinois -------------------------------------------- judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:17:51 Hi Naomi, I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in Långserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Aspsäter Södra, Gillberga parish, Värmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": 18760927-621 Vellander, Johan August Aspsäter Södra 1:2 Dead 2/8/1956. Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (Värmlands län, Värmland). Born 9/27/1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland). Widower (11/25/1912). -------------- Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: Gillberga, Säffle kn (Värmlands län, Värmland) Parish of birth in the records: Långserud (Värmland) Source records: DB, FS / DOR 52-60 Emibas CD: The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. Post 780631 Velander, Johan August Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) b. 9/27/1876 Emigrated 8/16/1907 from Kålsäter, Gillberga, Värmlands län (Värmland) to Nordamerika Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Populär" shows him going to Chicago. Efternamn: VELANDER Förnamn: JOH AUG Ålder: 31 Kön: M Född: 1875/1876 Församling: GILLBERGA Län: S Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 Destination: CHICAGO ILL. Medåkande: NEJ Källkod: 84:461:7049 "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time

Naomi, According to your guys US WWI draft registration he was born 23 Sep 1878 and is listed as John Ban Welander. He lists himself as being from 'Holland, Sweden' which seems a bit odd, but I've found these cards to generally be more accurate for birth dates as the person named usually filled them out themselves. Don't know if that'll help or not, just thought I'd throw it into the mix. Regards, Brian . On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:17 PM, <judymo73b@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Naomi, > > I see this Johan August Vellander born 27 September 1876 in Långserud and dead 8 February 1956 in Aspsäter Södra, Gillberga parish, Värmland. He was widowed 25 November 1912. > > DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009": > > 18760927-621 > > Vellander, Johan August > > Aspsäter Södra 1:2 > > Dead 2/8/1956. > > Registered in Gillberga, Gillberga kn (Värmlands län, Värmland). > > Born 9/27/1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland). > > Widower (11/25/1912). > -------------- > Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: > Gillberga, Säffle kn (Värmlands län, Värmland) > > Parish of birth in the records: > Långserud (Värmland) > > Source records: > DB, FS / DOR 52-60 > > > Emibas CD: > > The same man went to the U.S. in 1907. He obviously returned to Sweden. > > Post 780631 > > Velander, Johan August > Fabriksarbetare = factory worker (unmarried man) > > b. 9/27/1876 > > Emigrated 8/16/1907 > from Kålsäter, Gillberga, Värmlands län (Värmland) > to Nordamerika > > Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 300 > > Emibas migration file ID: Gillberga S 1907 008 > > The Emihamn database of CD "Emigranten Populär" shows him going to Chicago. > > Efternamn: VELANDER > Förnamn: JOH AUG > Ålder: 31 Kön: M > Född: 1875/1876 > Församling: GILLBERGA Län: S > Titel/Anm: > Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG > Utvandrdag: 1907 08 23 > Destination: CHICAGO ILL. > Medåkande: NEJ > Källkod: 84:461:7049 > > > "Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876?" > > Anything is possible. ;-) It is also possible that the date of birth in the 1900 U.S. Federal Census is not correct, and it is also possible that Johan August took the last name Velander after emigrating. I haven't been paying much attention to your thread, so I don't know what has been found already or where you've been looking besides the census of 1900. > > Have you used the archive called the Swenson Swedish Immigration Research Center? > > http://tinyurl.com/89t6wcc > > I don't see his marriage in 1898 in De Kalb County, Illinois or anywhere in Illinois on the Illinois Marriage Index. Who did he marry? > > http://tinyurl.com/7v8xqyy > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 6:12 P.M. U.S. Central Time > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Hi Judy, > > I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? > > Naomi in Illinois > --------------------------------------- > > judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 > > Hi Naomi, > > "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" > > No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. > > "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" > > Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near Långserud parish. Look in the SÄFFLE section of the following map. > > http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 > > Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? > > Record 2188743 > > Velander, Johan August > Inhyses > > b. 1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland) > > Boy > > Kohlsäter. > Gillberga (Värmlands län, Värmland) > > Place of birth (original source): Långserud > > > Judy > Orland Park, Illinois > Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It must be Gillberga, which was joined with Långserud in a "pastorat". Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12-07 18:34: > Hi List, > > Thanks to Martin for providing me a clue on the Welander family I have been able to follow them in Långserud Värmland. One of the sons, Johan August Welander, moves out 15 Nov 1892. According to the destination it appears to be Gga and I cannot make sense out of it. There are several others on the page with the same destination. Could it possibility be "destination unknown"? He is listed on the right hand page and is #81. > > Långserud BI:7 (1878-1894) Image 40 (AID: v7871.b40, NAD: SE/VA/13352) > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Naomi in Illinois > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Naomi, "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near Långserud parish. Look in the SÄFFLE section of the following map. http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? Record 2188743 Velander, Johan August Inhyses b. 1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland) Boy Kohlsäter. Gillberga (Värmlands län, Värmland) Place of birth (original source): Långserud Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7 ----- Original Message ----- Hi List, Thanks to Martin for providing me a clue on the Welander family I have been able to follow them in Långserud Värmland. One of the sons, Johan August Welander, moves out 15 Nov 1892. According to the destination it appears to be Gga and I cannot make sense out of it. There are several others on the page with the same destination. Could it possibility be "destination unknown"? He is listed on the right hand page and is #81. Långserud BI:7 (1878-1894) Image 40 (AID: v7871.b40, NAD: SE/VA/13352) Any help is greatly appreciated. Naomi in Illinois

Hi Judy, I did find out that Gga is an abbrevation for Gillberga. The Johan August Velander that is in the 1900 census is correct but now I have a problem. I have followed Johan August until he leaves for N. America in 1907, the only problem is that the Johan August Welander that I am interested in emigrated in 1897 to N. America. The one I am looking for was married in 1898 in DeKalb, Il. I guess I have been following the wrong family. The Johan August Welander that I am looking for was born Sept 1876 according to the 1900 US Census for DeKalb, IL. Is it possible that there were 2 Johan August Welander born in Sept 1876? Naomi in Illinois --------------------------------------- judymo73b@comcast.net wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:06:06 Hi Naomi, "Could it possibility be "destination unknown"?" No. That would be something like obekant ort or obekant destination. "According to the destination it appears to be Gga" Maybe it is the priest's abbreviation for Gillberga which is very near Långserud parish. Look in the SÄFFLE section of the following map. http://tinyurl.com/axg7qs6 Is this your Johan August Wellander in the 1900 Swedish Census CD? Record 2188743 Velander, Johan August Inhyses b. 1876 in Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland) Boy Kohlsäter. Gillberga (Värmlands län, Värmland) Place of birth (original source): Långserud Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 12:05 P.M. U.S. Central Time, December 7

Whoops! I thought this was the Norway list!!!:} What I wrote is the same but the help I had was Norway. Sorry about that. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry <hendrikssonfh@gmail.com> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:46:00 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Johan Henrik Henricksson immigration Thanks Bo for the info. Yes, I think the one you found in Landeryd is him. I can't seem to connect him within North America though. I'll check under the name of Landin. Is it unusual to change your last name? Doesn't sound like a common last mane? Thanks! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Bo Johansson wrote: > Henry wrote 2012-12-06 04:22: > > > > Hello, I'm trying to locate Johan Henrik Henricksson's (B; 21 March 1853, > > Sörby, Landeryd församling) immigration information. Below is the move > > in/out record for him in Vårdsbergs Parish. > > > > Seems he left in April of 1881 for North America. > > Moving-out number 5, 20 Apr 1881, AD Vårdsberg BI:1 (1835-1882) Image > 111 / page 215 (AID: v42057.b111.s215, NAD: SE/VALA/00436) > > Notice that he is called Johan Henrik Henriksson Landin in the > moving-out record. > > I don't find anyone suitable from Vårdsberg in EMIHAMN on the > "Emigranten" CD, but there is this one from Landeryd: > > Name: JOHAN HENDRIKSSON > Age: 28 > Parish: LANDERYD > County: E (Östergötland) > Port: GÖTEBORG > Date: 1881-04-29 > Destination: CHICAGO > Fellows: NEJ (Alone) > Source code: 17:458:20274 > > // Bo Johansson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Thanks, Henry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Henry, I looked for many years trying to find my grandfather before he landed here. I was giving Superman the credit for brining him over.:} The wonderful people on this lsit found him for me. I always knew him as Michelsen and had no information to think otherwise. They found he was born Karlsen and that he had taken his mother's name Michelsen but, it must have been soemething to do with paper work, he was registered as Karlsen on his passage. He was Michelsen always, here. All the best Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Henry <hendrikssonfh@gmail.com> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:46:00 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Johan Henrik Henricksson immigration Thanks Bo for the info. Yes, I think the one you found in Landeryd is him. I can't seem to connect him within North America though. I'll check under the name of Landin. Is it unusual to change your last name? Doesn't sound like a common last mane? Thanks! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Bo Johansson wrote: > Henry wrote 2012-12-06 04:22: > > > > Hello, I'm trying to locate Johan Henrik Henricksson's (B; 21 March 1853, > > Sörby, Landeryd församling) immigration information. Below is the move > > in/out record for him in Vårdsbergs Parish. > > > > Seems he left in April of 1881 for North America. > > Moving-out number 5, 20 Apr 1881, AD Vårdsberg BI:1 (1835-1882) Image > 111 / page 215 (AID: v42057.b111.s215, NAD: SE/VALA/00436) > > Notice that he is called Johan Henrik Henriksson Landin in the > moving-out record. > > I don't find anyone suitable from Vårdsberg in EMIHAMN on the > "Emigranten" CD, but there is this one from Landeryd: > > Name: JOHAN HENDRIKSSON > Age: 28 > Parish: LANDERYD > County: E (Östergötland) > Port: GÖTEBORG > Date: 1881-04-29 > Destination: CHICAGO > Fellows: NEJ (Alone) > Source code: 17:458:20274 > > // Bo Johansson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Thanks, Henry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Martin, I will check that out. Hopefully you have given me help and I do appreciate it. Naomi in Illinois ---------------------------------- Martin wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:52:57 It must be Gillberga, which was joined with Långserud in a "pastorat". Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12-07 18:34: > Hi List, > > Thanks to Martin for providing me a clue on the Welander family I have been able to follow them in Långserud Värmland. One of the sons, Johan August Welander, moves out 15 Nov 1892. According to the destination it appears to be Gga and I cannot make sense out of it. There are several others on the page with the same destination. Could it possibility be "destination unknown"? He is listed on the right hand page and is #81. > > Långserud BI:7 (1878-1894) Image 40 (AID: v7871.b40, NAD: SE/VA/13352) > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Naomi in Illinois >

From the 1880 census: Post 1880-17-34-2004 Welander, Nils Klensmed f. 1837 i Osby (Kristianstads län, Skåne) Gift man, far i familjen Kolsäters Bruk Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland) Registrerad födelseort: Osby Kristianstads län Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12-05 23:29: > I am trying to figure out to where the Nils Johansson Walendar family moved. To me it looks like Obestamd but I cannot find any place by that name - so I must be reading the location incorrectly, I need help. The family is the first family listed at > > Visseltofta AI:11 (1873-1878) Image 198 / page 223 (AID: v101833.b198.s223, NAD: SE/LLA/13456) > > Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Naomi in Illinois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, Thanks to Martin for providing me a clue on the Welander family I have been able to follow them in Långserud Värmland. One of the sons, Johan August Welander, moves out 15 Nov 1892. According to the destination it appears to be Gga and I cannot make sense out of it. There are several others on the page with the same destination. Could it possibility be "destination unknown"? He is listed on the right hand page and is #81. Långserud BI:7 (1878-1894) Image 40 (AID: v7871.b40, NAD: SE/VA/13352) Any help is greatly appreciated. Naomi in Illinois

Henry wrote 2012-12-07 06:46: > > Yes, I think the one you found in Landeryd is him. I can't seem to connect > him within North America though. I'll check under the name of Landin. Is it > unusual to change your last name? Doesn't sound like a common last mane? It was not at all unusual for Swedes to take a non-patronymic surname when they became a craftsman, or moved into town, or emigrated, or just because they wanted a new surname. Landin was not the most common surname to take, but there were 374 people (plus children) with surname Landin in Swedish Census 1880. On this site is information about Swedish naming customs (and other things) http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/ // Bo Johansson

Hej Martin, You have "made my day" by finding Nils Welander in the 1880 census. This is the family I am looking for and never would I have looked in Värmland. Again you have been a great help to me. Tack så mycket Naomi in Illinois ------------------------------------------------- Martin wrote Fri, 7 Dec 2012 04:53:37 From the 1880 census: Post 1880-17-34-2004 Welander, Nils Klensmed f. 1837 i Osby (Kristianstads län, Skåne) Gift man, far i familjen Kolsäters Bruk Långserud (Värmlands län, Värmland) Registrerad födelseort: Osby Kristianstads län Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12-05 23:29: > I am trying to figure out to where the Nils Johansson Walendar family moved. To me it looks like Obestamd but I cannot find any place by that name - so I must be reading the location incorrectly, I need help. The family is the first family listed at > > Visseltofta AI:11 (1873-1878) Image 198 / page 223 (AID: v101833.b198.s223, NAD: SE/LLA/13456) > > Needless to say, any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Naomi in Illinois >

Thanks Bo for the info. Yes, I think the one you found in Landeryd is him. I can't seem to connect him within North America though. I'll check under the name of Landin. Is it unusual to change your last name? Doesn't sound like a common last mane? Thanks! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com>wrote: > Henry wrote 2012-12-06 04:22: > > > > Hello, I'm trying to locate Johan Henrik Henricksson's (B; 21 March 1853, > > Sörby, Landeryd församling) immigration information. Below is the move > > in/out record for him in Vårdsbergs Parish. > > > > Seems he left in April of 1881 for North America. > > Moving-out number 5, 20 Apr 1881, AD Vårdsberg BI:1 (1835-1882) Image > 111 / page 215 (AID: v42057.b111.s215, NAD: SE/VALA/00436) > > Notice that he is called Johan Henrik Henriksson Landin in the > moving-out record. > > I don't find anyone suitable from Vårdsberg in EMIHAMN on the > "Emigranten" CD, but there is this one from Landeryd: > > Name: JOHAN HENDRIKSSON > Age: 28 > Parish: LANDERYD > County: E (Östergötland) > Port: GÖTEBORG > Date: 1881-04-29 > Destination: CHICAGO > Fellows: NEJ (Alone) > Source code: 17:458:20274 > > // Bo Johansson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Thanks, Henry

Henry wrote 2012-12-06 04:22: > > Hello, I'm trying to locate Johan Henrik Henricksson's (B; 21 March 1853, > Sörby, Landeryd församling) immigration information. Below is the move > in/out record for him in Vårdsbergs Parish. > > Seems he left in April of 1881 for North America. Moving-out number 5, 20 Apr 1881, AD Vårdsberg BI:1 (1835-1882) Image 111 / page 215 (AID: v42057.b111.s215, NAD: SE/VALA/00436) Notice that he is called Johan Henrik Henriksson Landin in the moving-out record. I don't find anyone suitable from Vårdsberg in EMIHAMN on the "Emigranten" CD, but there is this one from Landeryd: Name: JOHAN HENDRIKSSON Age: 28 Parish: LANDERYD County: E (Östergötland) Port: GÖTEBORG Date: 1881-04-29 Destination: CHICAGO Fellows: NEJ (Alone) Source code: 17:458:20274 // Bo Johansson

You're very welcome. Naomi.:} I wish you luck.:} Barbara l Message ----- From: Naomi Swanson <nswanson@mchsi.com> To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:22:27 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Where did the Walender family move to? Thank you Barbara for both of your responses. I don't think they were "lost at sea" as one of the sons emigrated to the U.S. in 1897. I will just have to hunt for them - this is not the first time I had to hunt for a family. Naomi in Illinois ------------------------------------ Barbara Young wrote Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:02:34 Could it be"lost at sea"? Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Eberling To: sweden@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 23:29:20 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Where did the Walender family move to? Looks to me like it says Obestämd ort (indeterminate/unknown location) Regards, Brian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message