My Peter Mattsson did have a brother named Anders born in 1836. My Peter's birth can be found at: Rölanda C:4 (1829-1858) Image 15 / page 21 (AID: v11258.b15.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) My Peter was in the U.S. and married by 1860 and he had 2 children born in 1861 and 1865. His mother Catarina Andersdotter was living with him in 1860 although she changed her surname to Mattson. He died 25 Sep 1872 in the U.S. I really don't know how to explain the two Peter Mattssons. Naomi in Illinois ------------------------------------------------- Martin wrote Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:11:10 Rölanda AI:6 (1835-1840) Image 10 / page 4 (AID: v4159.b10.s4, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:13 (1876-1885) Image 280 / page 268 (AID: v4166.b280.s268, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Maybe they are the same person. Your Peter Mattsson had a brother Anders, born 13 May 1836. He returned to Rölanda in 1879, having lived abroad for 22 years, last in New Zealand and had now entered into his inheritance at Tveten. This is where my Peter Mattsson lives. I have not checked this, 'cause it's getting late over here. Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12- söndag 22:49: > Martin I have gone over everything that I have on Peter Mattson (Mattsson). He is not the Peter Mattsson you referenced having died 16 Feb 1889. My Peter came to the U.S. between 1850 and 1860 with his mother Katarina Andersdotter. His birth record lists Mattes Pärsson and Katatina Andersdotter as his parents.. His birth was 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg. He is listed on the 1870 U.S. for New Boston Mercer County Illinois. > > I could not find a birth record for the Peter Mattsson you found. According to the HFL you referenced he was suppose to have been born 23 Oct 1833 in Rölanda Älvsborg. There is no birth record for that date. I wonder if it is possible that there were 2 Peter Mattssons in Rölanda. > > Naomi in Illinois > -------------------------------------------- > > Martin wrote Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:55:50 > > He died 16 Feb 1889 at Rud in Rölanda. > > Rölanda AI:14 (1886-1890) Image 111 / page 104 (AID: v4167.b111.s104, > NAD: SE/GLA/13446) > > Martin > > Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12- lördag 23:09: >> Hi List, >> >> I am requesting an emigration lookup for Peter Mattson b. 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg >> >> Possibly he was traveling with his mother Katarina Andersdotter b. 23 Jan 1800 Rölanda Älvsborg >> >> Any help with this request is greatly appreciated. >> >> Naomi in Illinois >>

Martin I have gone over everything that I have on Peter Mattson (Mattsson). He is not the Peter Mattsson you referenced having died 16 Feb 1889. My Peter came to the U.S. between 1850 and 1860 with his mother Katarina Andersdotter. His birth record lists Mattes Pärsson and Katatina Andersdotter as his parents.. His birth was 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg. He is listed on the 1870 U.S. for New Boston Mercer County Illinois. I could not find a birth record for the Peter Mattsson you found. According to the HFL you referenced he was suppose to have been born 23 Oct 1833 in Rölanda Älvsborg. There is no birth record for that date. I wonder if it is possible that there were 2 Peter Mattssons in Rölanda. Naomi in Illinois -------------------------------------------- Martin wrote Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:55:50 He died 16 Feb 1889 at Rud in Rölanda. Rölanda AI:14 (1886-1890) Image 111 / page 104 (AID: v4167.b111.s104, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12- lördag 23:09: > Hi List, > > I am requesting an emigration lookup for Peter Mattson b. 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg > > Possibly he was traveling with his mother Katarina Andersdotter b. 23 Jan 1800 Rölanda Älvsborg > > Any help with this request is greatly appreciated. > > Naomi in Illinois > >

Bo Johansson wrote 2012-12-30 12:44: > >> Page 1 >> Dösslag = ? > > --- maybe "durkslag" = colander -*-*- Sometimes spelled durschslag or dushslag >> >> Page 2 >> Saltta Had = salt block? > > --- I don't know what "Had"/"Hod"(?) can be, it seems the same word as > in "grytta lak å hada" on page 1. -*-*- Perhaps some kind of container? >> >> Julråk = ? > > --- ??? something to do with wheel ("hjul") or christmas ("Jul")? -*-*- Perhaps a spinning wheel, usually called "spinnrock", perhaps "Julråk" is an attempt at "hjulrock". // Bo Johansson

Pono (Norm) wrote 2012-12-30 03:58: > > I have an 1829 Ärtemark (P) bouppteckning translation online in draft form. > It was short and similar to others so I think most of it is OK, but I still > have 10 question marks that I hope you can help me with. Here is the direct > link to it and the line items with some guesses. The images are available > as links to pdf files. > > http://www.sandinfamily.com/genealogy-resources/olofsdotter-kerstin-bp/1-k-o > -bp.htm > > Page 1 > Dösslag = ? --- maybe "durkslag" = colander > > skärn å hak = ? and hook --- perhaps "skäre o. hak" = cutter and hacker > > stakaqvarn = ?mill --- "stekpanna" = frying pan > > Page 2 > Saltta Had = salt block? --- I don't know what "Had"/"Hod"(?) can be, it seems the same word as in "grytta lak å hada" on page 1. > > Julråk = ? --- ??? something to do with wheel ("hjul") or christmas ("Jul")? > > Kållar = ? --- ??? kängas = boots should probably be "Korgar" = baskets > > tönka Handkläda = ? hand towel --- "törka Handkläda" = drying towel > > Sölf = Personal? --- something of cloth, but what? cow named "goannanas" looks more like "Gomnaros" = ??? rose maybe "Granna ros" = good-looking rose? "grann" = good-looking/handsome/beautiful. > > Page 3 > til Johanes Olofsson i Dåfverud Kläs päningar > = to J O in D class? money? --- til Johanes Olofsson i Dåfverud utan sedel (without note) On page 4 you have "til Johanes Olofsson i Dåfverud Kläs päningar" "Kläs päningar" could be payment for using the "bår-kläde" (bier drape), but the amount seems rather large. Could it be some payment for clothes to the family, or perhaps a clothing allowance for soldiers? > > til Här pastor madalgär för pistimroin > = to Herr Pastor ? for ? --- ??? the last word seems to start with "past-" and perhaps end "-aria", but what it could be... Dätta såmt Bo har wi rittikt upgifwa... "Dätta vårt Bo har wi rittikt upgifwa..." = This our estate have we correctly reported... > > Kerstin’s husband died in 1820. She still had two cows with the same names > as a cow and a heifer left by her husband. Either they are the same > critters or she recycled the names. She had a few other items that could be > from her husband’s estate as well. Fascinating. // Bo Johansson

He died 16 Feb 1889 at Rud in Rölanda. Rölanda AI:14 (1886-1890) Image 111 / page 104 (AID: v4167.b111.s104, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12- lördag 23:09: > Hi List, > > I am requesting an emigration lookup for Peter Mattson b. 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg > > Possibly he was traveling with his mother Katarina Andersdotter b. 23 Jan 1800 Rölanda Älvsborg > > Any help with this request is greatly appreciated. > > Naomi in Illinois > >

I see Maja Stina MAGNUSDOTTER birth 28 Mar 1800 at Jönköping Stockaryd (Births) 1689 - 1810 (C:1) image 178, page 341, bottom right May I get a translation please?

21 Dec. Was born Sven Thomasson's and Wife Caisa Carlsdotter's child in Hemmingsmålen and was christened the 24. Name: Anders. Witnesses: Anders Thomasson in Stiernebo??, Nils Jonsson in Möasjö, Lisa Nilsdotter in Hemmingsmålen and maid Britta Jonsdotter in Möasjö. Martin Brenda skrev 2012-12- söndag 00:07: > I see Anders Svensson born Dec 1786 Svenarum, Jonkopings at Jönköping > Svenarum > Födde > 1751 - 1813 (C:2) > image 129 , page 245. What does the first sentence say before witnesses? Hoping to confirm parents' names and village where from or where born. > > Brenda in Seattle > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> I have an 1829 Ärtemark (P) bouppteckning translation online in draft form. > It was short and similar to others so I think most of it is OK, but I > still have 10 question marks that I hope you can help me with. Here > is the direct link to it and the line items with some guesses. The > images are available as links to pdf files. > http://www.sandinfamily.com/genealogy-resources/olofsdotter-kerstin-bp/1-k-o -bp.htm ### Thanks Bo! The two sons-in-law of the deceased each got the same amount of money. Do you think Kerstin arranged for new suits for the boys for her funeral? > > Page 4 > til Johanes Olofsson i Dåfverud Kläs päningar > = to J O in D class? money? ---"Kläs päningar" could be payment for using the "bår-kläde" (bier drape), but the amount seems rather large. ---Could it be some payment for clothes to the family, or perhaps a clothing allowance for soldiers? ### Also, can you guess what the several payments/debts of very small amounts might have been for? The 11sk to Elias seems to be to a 3 year old boy! ### Thanks for your efforts, Bo. ### Aloha, Pono

Thanks so much for this translation, Martin.

Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-29 21:48: > > I found the birth of the baby whose death I just asked about. > Köla C:4 (1737-1789) Image 266/ Page 523 > Last entry on left page is Karin illegitimate child of Kersti > Tholsson. --- Kerstin Tholsdr. (Tholsdotter). > > Is the father Nils Andersson? --- Yes, farmhand Nils Andersson of Hälle. > > Does it give the date of birth? --- Yes, birth date 11 July 1788, baptised the 13th of the same. // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-29 21:37: > > The last entry on the right side is for a child Kari in Hofdane. Then > it says something about Kersti Tholsdotter, died in Feb, age 7 weeks, > but then it looks like something was 7 1/2 months. Was Kersti the > mother of an illegitimate premature child, who died? AD Köla F:3 (1748-1795) Image 118 / page 229 (AID: v6162.b118.s229, NAD: SE/VA/13309) Hofdane - the child Kari, illegitimate, her mother is "L.P." (loose maid? = maid without yearly contract) Kersti Tholsdotter, died [in Febr.] of a wicked growth under the chin, 7 1/2 months old. They are found with Kersti's parents(?) at number 9 Hovdane in AD Köla AI:14 (1785-1791) Image 65 / page 121 (AID: v11964.b65.s121, NAD: SE/VA/13309). Kari's birth is recorded 11 July 1788 as illegitimate child Karin of Hofdane, father stated to be farmhand Nils Andersson from Hälle, mother maid Kerstin Tholsdotter. AD Köla C:4 (1737-1789) Image 266 / page 523 (AID: v6142.b266.s523, NAD: SE/VA/13309). // Bo Johansson

Brenda wrote 2012-12-29 19:50: > > So she died 16 Oct. 1826 at Stockaryd, Jonkopings. I see her death entry at > v36193.b114.s217 on A.D. OR at > GID Number:186.22.34100 Volume:C:2 Roll/Fiche Number:IJ-1440 Page > Number:375 on Ancestry.com. > > The entry goes onto the next page so it is 19 lines long but appears to be > mostly legible. I would love a translation, maybe she died in childbirth? --- Number 12 (1826): the 7th October died Anders Svensson's in Ståckaryd Millgård and its wife Maja Stina Andersdotter's almost 3 months old child Sven... > > I also see a short entry #14, that states her name also. Is that her child? --- No, that is Maja Stina herself. Number 1 (1826): the 9th October died of "gulsot" (jaundice) in addition to distress because of her child's death two days previously (see number 12), the wife Maja Stina Andersdotter in Ståckaryd Millgård, 26 1/2 years old and was buried the 15th October. // Bo Johansson

MIKE-JENNY HALLENBERGER skrev 2012-12- fredag 00:13: > I looked through all of the outflyytings (sp) for the year of 1865-66 for the counties in Sweden.What would you do?Jenny in Idaho With over 2000 parishes that must have taken years! It seems impossible to corroborate any findings if you don't have any other information about connections to Sweden. Have you tried the Swenson Center? http://www.augustana.edu/x13856.xml This one went to Denmark (first?): Post 486607 Nilsson, Wilhelm Yngling (unmarried man) b. 4/6/1847 in Malmö, Malmöhus län (Skåne) Emigrated 11/17/1865 from Ellenbogen 17, Malmö Karoli, Malmöhus län (Skåne) to Köbenhavn amt, Danmark Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 297 Emibas migration file ID: Malmö Karoli M 1865 090 Un-normalized versions: Place of destination: Köpenhamn Country of destination: Danmark Martin

I have an 1829 Ärtemark (P) bouppteckning translation online in draft form. It was short and similar to others so I think most of it is OK, but I still have 10 question marks that I hope you can help me with. Here is the direct link to it and the line items with some guesses. The images are available as links to pdf files. http://www.sandinfamily.com/genealogy-resources/olofsdotter-kerstin-bp/1-k-o -bp.htm Page 1 Dösslag = ? skärn å hak = ? and hook stakaqvarn = ?mill Page 2 Saltta Had = salt block? Julråk = ? Kållar = ? tönka Handkläda = ? hand towel Sölf = Personal? Page 3 til Johanes Olofsson i Dåfverud Kläs päningar = to J O in D class? money? til Här pastor madalgär för pistimroin = to Herr Pastor ? for ? Kerstin’s husband died in 1820. She still had two cows with the same names as a cow and a heifer left by her husband. Either they are the same critters or she recycled the names. She had a few other items that could be from her husband’s estate as well. Fascinating. Hope everyone is enjoying the holidays. Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau]

Bo, Thank you so much for this information. I haven't come across a "wicked growth" as a cause of death before. Poor little baby. Annette On 12/29/12, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-29 21:37: > > >> The last entry on the right side is for a child Kari in Hofdane. Then >> it says something about Kersti Tholsdotter, died in Feb, age 7 weeks, >> but then it looks like something was 7 1/2 months. Was Kersti the >> mother of an illegitimate premature child, who died? > > AD Köla F:3 (1748-1795) Image 118 / page 229 (AID: v6162.b118.s229, NAD: > SE/VA/13309) > > Hofdane - the child Kari, illegitimate, her mother is "L.P." (loose > maid? = maid without yearly contract) Kersti Tholsdotter, died [in > Febr.] of a wicked growth under the chin, 7 1/2 months old. > > They are found with Kersti's parents(?) at number 9 Hovdane in AD Köla > AI:14 (1785-1791) Image 65 / page 121 (AID: v11964.b65.s121, NAD: > SE/VA/13309). > > Kari's birth is recorded 11 July 1788 as illegitimate child Karin of > Hofdane, father stated to be farmhand Nils Andersson from Hälle, mother > maid Kerstin Tholsdotter. > AD Köla C:4 (1737-1789) Image 266 / page 523 (AID: v6142.b266.s523, NAD: > SE/VA/13309). > > // Bo Johansson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, I am requesting an emigration lookup for Peter Mattson b. 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg Possibly he was traveling with his mother Katarina Andersdotter b. 23 Jan 1800 Rölanda Älvsborg Any help with this request is greatly appreciated. Naomi in Illinois

I see Anders Svensson born Dec 1786 Svenarum, Jonkopings at Jönköping > Svenarum > Födde > 1751 - 1813 (C:2) > image 129 , page 245. What does the first sentence say before witnesses? Hoping to confirm parents' names and village where from or where born. Brenda in Seattle

I found the birth of the baby whose death I just asked about. Köla C:4 (1737-1789) Image 266/ Page 523 Last entry on left page is Karin illegitimate child of Kersti Tholsson. Is the father Nils Andersson? Does it give the date of birth? Thank you. Annette

The last entry on the right side is for a child Kari in Hofdane. Then it says something about Kersti Tholsdotter, died in Feb, age 7 weeks, but then it looks like something was 7 1/2 months. Was Kersti the mother of an illegitimate premature child, who died? Thank you. Annette

I think Anders Pärsson was the brother of Nils Olofsson's mother Anne Pehrsdotter. The other sons went to Gryttved where Anne's parents lived. I haven't found her daughter Marit yet. Thanks so much for your help. I hope my understanding of Swedish and the handwriting will improve with practice! Annette On 12/29/12, Martin <martin48@telia.com> wrote: > > Annette Bowen skrev 2012-12- lördag 00:48: >> Continuing with this Olof Tholsson family, I have found a possibility >> for the son Nils in Norra By, Eda AI:9 (1796-1802) Image 226 / page >> 443 with the family of Anders Pärsson, but it doesn't give his year of >> birth or a moving in date. What is the word in front of Nils? > > It could be "Gåssen" = Gossen = the boy. >> >> At what age would the description change from Gosse to Dr? > Around fifteen, after their confirmation. >> >> Is Thol the same name as Tol, Tohl, and Toll? > > Yes, spellings varied a lot. > > Martin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >