Thank yous to Martin, Judy and Kay for the info/help on my emigration question. The information will also help me to look for the rest of his family. Karen K

Hi, I am trying to find the birth record for Goran Pehrsson. Goran was listed as age 44 on the HER, <javascript:;> Malmöhus > <javascript:;> Hörby > <javascript:;> Husförhör (Household examination) > <javascript:;> 1795 - 1811 > 14. But I do not know Goran's exact birth date nor do I have any confirmation that he was born in <javascript:;> Hörby. I did find, what appears to be, a possible birth record for Goran in <javascript:;> Malmöhus > <javascript:;> Hörby > <javascript:;> Födde (Births) > <javascript:;> 1749 - 1772 > 26 [GID - 1271.55.60300, roll/fiche number KL-434]. The record is very difficult to read. Could someone try to interpret the record to see if it is for Goran Pehrsson? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Becky Olson

This looks like him. Post 85512 Andersson, Sven August Dräng (unmarried man) b. 10/27/1843 in Askeby, Östergötlands län (Östergötland) Emigrated 3/22/1871 from Skärpinge, Kimstad, Östergötlands län (Östergötland) to Nordamerika Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 150 Emibas migration file ID: Kimstad E 1871 005 It was very common for the emigrants to change or Americanize their names. Nyberg (Newberg) is a very Swedish surname. Martin At 20:43 2013-01-01, you wrote: >Did people emigrating to the United States >normally get listed in moving out records? >My great grandfather came to the U.S. in about >1870. I've tried finding him on ship passenger >lists but with so many men with the same name it's difficult. > >His name is Sven August Anderssons and he was >born in Askeby, Ostergotland in 1843. He may >have traveled with a brother or his mother, >Johanna Larsdotter. I have found the record of his and siblings' birth. > >On a funny note: Sven ended up with the last >name of Newberg while all his emigrating >brothers kept the Anderson name. We think he >misunderstood when on arrival he was asked his >name and he replied with where he was from. >However it happened he was too proud or stubborn to ever correct it. > >KarenK > >Sent from my iPad > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Hi KarenK, I found him on the Emibas CD. Post 85512 Andersson, Sven August Dräng = farmhand (unmarried man) b. 10/27/1843 in Askeby, Östergötlands län (Östergötland) Emigrated 3/22/1871 from Skärpinge, Kimstad, Östergötlands län (Östergötland) to Nordamerika Source: Household Examination Roll, p. 150 Emibas migration file ID: Kimstad E 1871 005 Emibas is about 75% complete, so of course there are people who won't be on this cd. Also, if emigrants didn't tell the parish that they were leaving, it is generally not likely you will find their emigration in Swedish records. Name changes were very common and it is not uncommon that siblings used different last names. Read about Swedish naming customs in this interesting and informative article written by Ingela Martenius about Swedish naming customs. http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/Names.pdf Names were NOT changed when an immigrant entered the U.S. That is a myth. Google: Name changes at immigration. You will find many articles, such as this one. http://www.ilw.com/articles/2005,0808-smith.shtm Judy Orland Park, Illinois Sent: 2:23 P.M. U.S. Central Time, January 1 ----- Original Message ----- Did people emigrating to the United States normally get listed in moving out records? My great grandfather came to the U.S. in about 1870. I've tried finding him on ship passenger lists but with so many men with the same name it's difficult. His name is Sven August Anderssons and he was born in Askeby, Ostergotland in 1843. He may have traveled with a brother or his mother, Johanna Larsdotter. I have found the record of his and siblings' birth. On a funny note: Sven ended up with the last name of Newberg while all his emigrating brothers kept the Anderson name. We think he misunderstood when on arrival he was asked his name and he replied with where he was from. However it happened he was too proud or stubborn to ever correct it. KarenK Sent from my iPad

If it helps you to find him coming into Castle Garden, it took my people about 3 weeks to get here after leaving Sweden. Left parish Oct 31, left Goteborg Nov 4 and arrived at Castle Garden Nov 30. Then got on another ship to Texas and arrived Dec 10. So travel was in steps. Kay

Did people emigrating to the United States normally get listed in moving out records? My great grandfather came to the U.S. in about 1870. I've tried finding him on ship passenger lists but with so many men with the same name it's difficult. His name is Sven August Anderssons and he was born in Askeby, Ostergotland in 1843. He may have traveled with a brother or his mother, Johanna Larsdotter. I have found the record of his and siblings' birth. On a funny note: Sven ended up with the last name of Newberg while all his emigrating brothers kept the Anderson name. We think he misunderstood when on arrival he was asked his name and he replied with where he was from. However it happened he was too proud or stubborn to ever correct it. KarenK Sent from my iPad

Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-31 21:20: > > Thank you, Bo. I'll look in the moving out records to see if I can > find a date. Her brother, Per, also went back and forth to Norway > before settling there, marrying a Norwegian, and emigrating with his > wife to America, where my grandmother was born. --- I don't think she will be in he moving-out records. If she only got a work certificate, she was still officially living in Köla. // Bo Johansson > >> - maid Maria Jonsdotter, born 1814-02-10 Köla, came 1842 from page 248, >> moved 1845 to page 195, work certificate to Norway 27(?) July(?) >> [unreadable year], returned October same year.

Happy New Year to all. Barbara in MA

Thank you, Bo. I'll look in the moving out records to see if I can find a date. Her brother, Per, also went back and forth to Norway before settling there, marrying a Norwegian, and emigrating with his wife to America, where my grandmother was born. Annette On 12/31/12, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-31 07:19: > > >> On the above page I need help reading the note for Pig. Maria Jonsdr, >> born 10/2 1814. > > - maid Maria Jonsdotter, born 1814-02-10 Köla, came 1842 from page 248, > moved 1845 to page 195, work certificate to Norway 27(?) July(?) > [unreadable year], returned October same year. > > // Bo Johansson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Bo. Since the Previous HFL volume went through 1865, I assumed that I would find them in the next volume, but I didn't - and I don't think I care to go through it page by page right now! I have found only one son who died in 1858 at age 7. Since the line for Olof seems to have ended, I guess I'll just move on to the other siblings. Annette On 12/31/12, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-31 03:32: > > >> I am following my great-grandfather's brother Olof Jonsson, who added >> Aspelin to his name. (His mother and her father used Aspelin/ >> Aspling/ Asplind as a surname.) >> >> He and his wife moved a lot. The above reference is the last time I >> found them in the HFL. There is a notation that he died in 1867 and I >> found his death at Eda F:4 (1861-1874) Image 79. I think it says he >> was buried at Köla, but what was the cause of death? > > --- Eda F:4 (1861-1874) Image 49 (AID: v6081.b49, NAD: SE/VA/13091) > > Number: 22 > Death date: 8 Mar 1867 > Burial date: 17 Mar > Sex: M > Text: married farmhand Olof Jonson Aspelin from Hulteberg, buried in Köla. > Age: 50 > Cause: chest pains > Page: 201 in old book > > Curious that the page number refers to the previous HFL volume, not the > current. > > > >> I did not find Olof or Kerstin at Hulteberg in the next churchbook > > and I do not know what happened to Kerstin. Did I miss something? > > --- They moved 1864 to page 90, but came back 1865. > > I don't see her in Swedish census 1880. > > Perhaps they had moved to Köla? Before 1879 Eda was in Eda "pastorat", > so they might not be in the moving records. > > Did they have children? Perhaps she moved in with one of them? > > // Bo Johansson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Brenda wrote 2012-12-30 20:42: > > I see Maja Stina MAGNUSDOTTER birth 28 Mar 1800 at > Jönköping Stockaryd (Births) 1689 - 1810 (C:1) > image 178, page 341, bottom right Number 5 The 28th March (1800) was born [in Stommen] Måns Andersson's and wife Stina Jonsdoter's little girl-child and in the baptism the ??? named - Maria Christina. Witnesses: Sven Persson in S.G., Magnus Jonsson in Ståckaryd Mellangård, wife Lisgen Carlsdoter in Stomen, maid lisa Nilsson in Hellaryd Söregård. // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-31 07:19: > > On the above page I need help reading the note for Pig. Maria Jonsdr, > born 10/2 1814. - maid Maria Jonsdotter, born 1814-02-10 Köla, came 1842 from page 248, moved 1845 to page 195, work certificate to Norway 27(?) July(?) [unreadable year], returned October same year. // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2012-12-31 03:32: > > I am following my great-grandfather's brother Olof Jonsson, who added > Aspelin to his name. (His mother and her father used Aspelin/ > Aspling/ Asplind as a surname.) > > He and his wife moved a lot. The above reference is the last time I > found them in the HFL. There is a notation that he died in 1867 and I > found his death at Eda F:4 (1861-1874) Image 79. I think it says he > was buried at Köla, but what was the cause of death? --- Eda F:4 (1861-1874) Image 49 (AID: v6081.b49, NAD: SE/VA/13091) Number: 22 Death date: 8 Mar 1867 Burial date: 17 Mar Sex: M Text: married farmhand Olof Jonson Aspelin from Hulteberg, buried in Köla. Age: 50 Cause: chest pains Page: 201 in old book Curious that the page number refers to the previous HFL volume, not the current. > > I did not find Olof or Kerstin at Hulteberg in the next churchbook > and I do not know what happened to Kerstin. Did I miss something? --- They moved 1864 to page 90, but came back 1865. I don't see her in Swedish census 1880. Perhaps they had moved to Köla? Before 1879 Eda was in Eda "pastorat", so they might not be in the moving records. Did they have children? Perhaps she moved in with one of them? // Bo Johansson

This Peter Mattsson never left Rölanda. In the household records his birth date is sometimes 29 Nov 1833. His mother Cathrina Andersdotter died 27 Feb 1841. His father Mattes Persson died 26 May 1843. It is a very interesting mystery. Martin Rölanda AI:6 (1835-1840) Image 93 / page 88 (AID: v4159.b93.s88, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:7 (1841-1845) Image 236 / page 226 (AID: v4160.b236.s226, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:7 (1841-1845) Image 174 / page 164 (AID: v4160.b174.s164, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:8 (1846-1850) Image 179 / page 165 (AID: v4161.b179.s165, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:8 (1846-1850) Image 243 / page 229 (AID: v4161.b243.s229, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:9 (1851-1856) Image 239 / page 228 (AID: v4162.b239.s228, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:9 (1851-1856) Image 178 / page 167 (AID: v4162.b178.s167, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:9 (1851-1856) Image 137 / page 126 (AID: v4162.b137.s126, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:10 (1856-1860) Image 148 / page 142 (AID: v4163.b148.s142, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:10 (1856-1860) Image 238 / page 232 (AID: v4163.b238.s232, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:11 (1860-1866) Image 252 / page 245 (AID: v4164.b252.s245, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:12 (1866-1875) Image 350 / page 341 (AID: v4165.b350.s341, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:13 (1876-1885) Image 280 / page 268 (AID: v4166.b280.s268, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:14 (1886-1890) Image 111 / page 104 (AID: v4167.b111.s104, NAD: SE/GLA/13446)

Thank you Martin for the time you have spent on Peter Mattsson. I have looked at all the HFLs that you provided. I will do some more investigating on my Peter Mattsson. It sure is a mystery to me, maybe there is another Peter Mattson somewhere in Sweden. Will let you know if I find anything new. Naomi in Illinois --------------------------------------- Martin wrote Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:09:48 This Peter Mattsson never left Rölanda. In the household records his birth date is sometimes 29 Nov 1833. His mother Cathrina Andersdotter died 27 Feb 1841. His father Mattes Persson died 26 May 1843. It is a very interesting mystery. Martin Rölanda AI:6 (1835-1840) Image 93 / page 88 (AID: v4159.b93.s88, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:7 (1841-1845) Image 236 / page 226 (AID: v4160.b236.s226, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:7 (1841-1845) Image 174 / page 164 (AID: v4160.b174.s164, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:8 (1846-1850) Image 179 / page 165 (AID: v4161.b179.s165, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:8 (1846-1850) Image 243 / page 229 (AID: v4161.b243.s229, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:9 (1851-1856) Image 239 / page 228 (AID: v4162.b239.s228, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:9 (1851-1856) Image 178 / page 167 (AID: v4162.b178.s167, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:9 (1851-1856) Image 137 / page 126 (AID: v4162.b137.s126, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:10 (1856-1860) Image 148 / page 142 (AID: v4163.b148.s142, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:10 (1856-1860) Image 238 / page 232 (AID: v4163.b238.s232, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:11 (1860-1866) Image 252 / page 245 (AID: v4164.b252.s245, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:12 (1866-1875) Image 350 / page 341 (AID: v4165.b350.s341, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:13 (1876-1885) Image 280 / page 268 (AID: v4166.b280.s268, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:14 (1886-1890) Image 111 / page 104 (AID: v4167.b111.s104, NAD: SE/GLA/13446)

On the above page I need help reading the note for Pig. Maria Jonsdr, born 10/2 1814. Thank you. Annette

Rölanda AI:6 (1835-1840) Image 10 / page 4 (AID: v4159.b10.s4, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Rölanda AI:13 (1876-1885) Image 280 / page 268 (AID: v4166.b280.s268, NAD: SE/GLA/13446) Maybe they are the same person. Your Peter Mattsson had a brother Anders, born 13 May 1836. He returned to Rölanda in 1879, having lived abroad for 22 years, last in New Zealand and had now entered into his inheritance at Tveten. This is where my Peter Mattsson lives. I have not checked this, 'cause it's getting late over here. Martin Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12- söndag 22:49: > Martin I have gone over everything that I have on Peter Mattson (Mattsson). He is not the Peter Mattsson you referenced having died 16 Feb 1889. My Peter came to the U.S. between 1850 and 1860 with his mother Katarina Andersdotter. His birth record lists Mattes Pärsson and Katatina Andersdotter as his parents.. His birth was 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg. He is listed on the 1870 U.S. for New Boston Mercer County Illinois. > > I could not find a birth record for the Peter Mattsson you found. According to the HFL you referenced he was suppose to have been born 23 Oct 1833 in Rölanda Älvsborg. There is no birth record for that date. I wonder if it is possible that there were 2 Peter Mattssons in Rölanda. > > Naomi in Illinois > -------------------------------------------- > > Martin wrote Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:55:50 > > He died 16 Feb 1889 at Rud in Rölanda. > > Rölanda AI:14 (1886-1890) Image 111 / page 104 (AID: v4167.b111.s104, > NAD: SE/GLA/13446) > > Martin > > Naomi Swanson skrev 2012-12- lördag 23:09: >> Hi List, >> >> I am requesting an emigration lookup for Peter Mattson b. 29 Nov 1833 Rölanda Älvsborg >> >> Possibly he was traveling with his mother Katarina Andersdotter b. 23 Jan 1800 Rölanda Älvsborg >> >> Any help with this request is greatly appreciated. >> >> Naomi in Illinois >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pono (Norm) wrote 2012-12-30 22:22: > > ### Thanks Bo! The two sons-in-law of the deceased each got the same amount > of money. Do you think Kerstin arranged for new suits for the boys for her > funeral? That could be it! // Bo Johansson >> >> Page 4 >> til Johanes Olofsson i Dåfverud Kläs päningar >> = to J O in D class? money? > > ---"Kläs päningar" could be payment for using the "bår-kläde" (bier drape), > but the amount seems rather large. > > ---Could it be some payment for clothes to the family, or perhaps a clothing > allowance for soldiers?

I am following my great-grandfather's brother Olof Jonsson, who added Aspelin to his name. (His mother and her father used Aspelin/ Aspling/ Asplind as a surname.) He and his wife moved a lot. The above reference is the last time I found them in the HFL. There is a notation that he died in 1867 and I found his death at Eda F:4 (1861-1874) Image 79. I think it says he was buried at Köla, but what was the cause of death? I did not find Olof or Kerstin at Hulteberg in the next churchbook and I do not know what happened to Kerstin. Did I miss something? Thank you. Annette