Bo Johansson wrote 2013-01-05 08:33: > > --- Baptised 17 Jan 1725, number 4 > Master smith Samuel Taberman's and wife Kerstin Erichsdotter's daughter > Maria at Frösvidahl born the 14th Jan. > Witnesses: Nils Michelsson and Anton Martinsson, assistant smiths, wife > Sisilia Olufsdotter, maid Brita Erichsdoter. Or maybe Samuel Faberman... // Bo Johansson

Steve & Shirley wrote 2013-01-05 05:02: > > Hello, The actual page number is 702. Elias Stenbom died Dec 24, 1798. > Just after the date is the word that looks like Matersvennen. > The closest thing I find is on SweGGate. They have a Mastersven = Master > smith's assistant. (sven = helper). Is that what his record is? AD Risinge EI:1 (1697-1823) Image 258 / page 511 (AID: v39961.b258.s511, NAD: SE/VALA/00306), handwritten page number 702. Mästersvennen (the assistant smith) vid (at) Börjöhls Bruk Elias Stenbom. Cause "lungsot" (lung disease, tuberculosis?), age 61 years. // Bo Johanson

Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-05 04:56: > > I think I have finally found the birth records for my ancestors Olof > Olofsson (image 94/ page 90 No. 4) --- Baptised 9 Feb 1724, number 4 Oluf Nilsson's and wife Brita Olufsdotter's in Kiällhult at Frösvidahl son Oluf born the 4th Feb. Witnesses: miller Lars Larsson at Frösvidahl, farmhand Jacob Nilsson, wife Elsa, maid Catharina Olufsdoter. > > and Maria Samuelsdotter (image 97/ page 93 No. 4). --- Baptised 17 Jan 1725, number 4 Master smith Samuel Taberman's and wife Kerstin Erichsdotter's daughter Maria at Frösvidahl born the 14th Jan. Witnesses: Nils Michelsson and Anton Martinsson, assistant smiths, wife Sisilia Olufsdotter, maid Brita Erichsdoter. // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-05 02:43: > > I need help reading the second death record for Nils Jan Ludvigssons > wife from Bleckbruket. Her age should be 73 (the HFL Tysslinge AI:10 > (1796-1800) Image 205/ Page 200 said she was born in 1725 and died in > 1798), but I am not sure what the other numbers are. Was the date of > death Nov. 5 and her burial Nov 11? What is 26? Death date: 5 Nov 1798 Burial Date: 11 Nov Text: "Klensmeds" (smith making small things) master Nils Jan Ludvicsson's wife at Bleckbruket Illness ("Sjukdom"): 26 Age, years: 73(?) 26 seems to be some kind of code for the cause of death. // Bo Johansson

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Hello, The actual page number is 702. Elias Stenbom died Dec 24, 1798. Just after the date is the word that looks like Matersvennen. The closest thing I find is on SweGGate. They have a Mastersven = Master smith's assistant. (sven = helper). Is that what his record is? Thanks Steve

I think I have finally found the birth records for my ancestors Olof Olofsson (image 94/ page 90 No. 4) and Maria Samuelsdotter (image 97/ page 93 No. 4). Would someone please help me with these two birth records. It looks like they may have been born in the same place. Thank you. Annette

I need help reading the second death record for Nils Jan Ludvigssons wife from Bleckbruket. Her age should be 73 (the HFL Tysslinge AI:10 (1796-1800) Image 205/ Page 200 said she was born in 1725 and died in 1798), but I am not sure what the other numbers are. Was the date of death Nov. 5 and her burial Nov 11? What is 26? Thank you for your help. Annette

Again I thank you, Bo. I appreciate your help. I wish they had given the mother's name, but I do believe that this is the child I was looking for. Annette On 1/4/13, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-04 04:12: > > >> I think the first entry is my ancestor's brother, Samuel, son of Olof >> Olofson and Maria Samuelsdotter. Does this record give the mother's >> name and a location? Pehr Johan Faberman was a witness for another of >> this couple's chiildren and I see Samuelsdotter as a name of one of >> the witnesses. > > The 14th December (1745) was born master builder Olof Olofsson's son at > Axberg(?) Hammar and christened the 22nd of the same [month] and was > called Samuel. > Male witnesses: master smith Olof Olofsson at Axberg(?) Hammar, > assistant smith Lars Olsson of the same place, assistant smith John > Faberman(?) from ???. > Female witnesses: wife Aino(?) Andersdotter ??? of the same place, maid > Aino Samuelsdotter [of the same place?], > > // Bo Johansson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Bo, There isn't any other reference to fraud before or after. Thanks again. Steve Message: 8 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 07:31:12 +0100 From: Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] S?dermanland, Runtuna, Husf?rh?r, 1841-1845 Page 112, image 121 of 217 To: sweden@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <50E67730.9070406@telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Steve & Shirley wrote 2013-01-04 05:08: > > Hello, On the above record in the line of Johan Nystrom is the > word ?bedr?glig?. Google translate has several possible meanings > some of which are fraudulent or deceptive. Is there a way to > determine the context of the word? Runtuna AI:12 (1841-1845) Image 118 / page 112 (AID: v60531.b118.s112, NAD: SE/ULA/11279) I would suspect he had been sentenced for "bedr?geri" (fraud). Perhaps there is more explanation in an earlier or later HFL volume? // Bo Johansson

Steve & Shirley wrote 2013-01-04 05:08: > > Hello, On the above record in the line of Johan Nystrom is the > word “bedräglig”. Google translate has several possible meanings > some of which are fraudulent or deceptive. Is there a way to > determine the context of the word? Runtuna AI:12 (1841-1845) Image 118 / page 112 (AID: v60531.b118.s112, NAD: SE/ULA/11279) I would suspect he had been sentenced for "bedrägeri" (fraud). Perhaps there is more explanation in an earlier or later HFL volume? // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-04 04:12: > > I think the first entry is my ancestor's brother, Samuel, son of Olof > Olofson and Maria Samuelsdotter. Does this record give the mother's > name and a location? Pehr Johan Faberman was a witness for another of > this couple's chiildren and I see Samuelsdotter as a name of one of > the witnesses. The 14th December (1745) was born master builder Olof Olofsson's son at Axberg(?) Hammar and christened the 22nd of the same [month] and was called Samuel. Male witnesses: master smith Olof Olofsson at Axberg(?) Hammar, assistant smith Lars Olsson of the same place, assistant smith John Faberman(?) from ???. Female witnesses: wife Aino(?) Andersdotter ??? of the same place, maid Aino Samuelsdotter [of the same place?], // Bo Johansson

GID 2126.1.46600 Hello, On the above record in the line of Johan Nystrom is the word “bedräglig”. Google translate has several possible meanings some of which are fraudulent or deceptive. Is there a way to determine the context of the word? Thank you Steve Peterson

I think the first entry is my ancestor's brother, Samuel, son of Olof Olofson and Maria Samuelsdotter. Does this record give the mother's name and a location? Pehr Johan Faberman was a witness for another of this couple's chiildren and I see Samuelsdotter as a name of one of the witnesses. Thank you. Annette

Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-03 07:31: > > The last birth on the right side, Apr. 1, is the only Maria I found > born to an Olof in 1759. The mother is Maria Samuelsdotter, which > was the name of the wife in the HFL I just asked about. (Tys. AI:8 > (1786-1790) Image 188/ page 181) The handwriting for this birth entry > is beyond my ability. Can anyone read it? Does it tell the father's > position and where they lived? April 1 (1759) was born "Byggmästaren" (the master builder) Olof Olofsson's and Maria Samuelsdotter's daughter Maria, baptised the 6th ditto. Witnesses... There doesn't seem to be an address, perhaps you can trace them backwards in the HFL volumes instead. Tysslinge AI:7 (1781-1785) Image 180 / page 175 (AID: v52420.b180.s175, NAD: SE/ULA/11610) Tysslinge AI:6 (1776-1780) Image 15 / page 20 (AID: v52419.b15.s20, NAD: SE/ULA/11610) At the top of the page are probably Nils Johan Ludvicsson's parents. Tysslinge AI:4 (1771-1775) Image 16 / page 12 (AID: v52417.b16.s12, NAD: SE/ULA/11610) Tysslinge AI:3 (1765-1772) Image 214 / page 200 (AID: v52416.b214.s200, NAD: SE/ULA/11610) Miller and master builder Olof Olofson and wife Maria Samuelsdotter are found at Bleckbruket in AD Tysslinge AI:2 (1751-1764) Image 2130 / page 206 (AID: v52415a.b2130.s206, NAD: SE/ULA/11610) And then at AD Tysslinge AI:2 (1751-1764) Image 2540 / page 245c (AID: v52415a.b2540.s245c, NAD: SE/ULA/11610) It looks like miller Olof Olofsson dies 1760. // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-03 07:11: > > I am looking at the family of Jonas Aspling and his wife Maria Olosdt. > They married in 1789 and he came from p 185. Does it say that she is > the same person as Maria Olsdr at the top of this page? --- Jonas Aspling's his wife Maria Olofsdotter came from "vid.sup." (vide supra 0 see above), so she came from above on the page. > > If so, she is listed as Dott Maria Olsdr, but the head of that > family is Nils Johan so he can't be her father. Where does it say > she moved in from? --- Nils Johan Ludvicsson is probably her step-father. She came 1786 from Stockholm(??). In the previous volume she is listed as "St.dott" (step-daughter), and moving 1781 to Stockholm. AD Tysslinge AI:7 (1781-1785) Image 180 / page 175 (AID: v52420.b180.s175, NAD: SE/ULA/11610). // Bo Johansson

Becky Olson wrote 2013-01-03 02:35: > > I am trying to find the birth record for Goran Pehrsson. Goran was listed > as age 44 on the HER, <javascript:;> Malmöhus > <javascript:;> Hörby > > <javascript:;> Husförhör (Household examination) > <javascript:;> 1795 - > 1811 > 14. But I do not know Goran's exact birth date nor do I have any > confirmation that he was born in <javascript:;> Hörby. --- I don't understand where you have seen him, he is not found in AD Hörby AI:1 (1795-1800) Image 17 / page 14 (AID: v110099.b17.s14, NAD: SE/LLA/13181). Volume and page number please! > > I did find, what appears to be, a possible birth record for Goran in > <javascript:;> Malmöhus > <javascript:;> Hörby > <javascript:;> Födde > (Births) > <javascript:;> 1749 - 1772 > 26 [GID - 1271.55.60300, roll/fiche > number KL-434]. The record is very difficult to read. Could someone try > to interpret the record to see if it is for Goran Pehrsson? Thanks in > advance for your help. --- I don't understand where you have seen him, he is not found in AD Hörby CI:3 (1749-1772) Image 32 / page 26 (AID: v110150.b32.s26, NAD: SE/LLA/13181). Date and page number please! // Bo Johansson

Thank you so much, Martin and Bo. I never would have guessed "Stockholm" as that Inflyttning Orten, but I can see it now that I know what it is supposed to be. I have trouble with abbreviations, and I never know whether they are Swedish or Latin. Annette On 1/3/13, Bo Johansson <bo.h.johan56@telia.com> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2013-01-03 07:11: > > >> I am looking at the family of Jonas Aspling and his wife Maria Olosdt. >> They married in 1789 and he came from p 185. Does it say that she is >> the same person as Maria Olsdr at the top of this page? > > --- Jonas Aspling's his wife Maria Olofsdotter came from "vid.sup." > (vide supra 0 see above), so she came from above on the page. > > > >> If so, she is listed as Dott Maria Olsdr, but the head of that >> family is Nils Johan so he can't be her father. Where does it say >> she moved in from? > > --- Nils Johan Ludvicsson is probably her step-father. > > She came 1786 from Stockholm(??). > > In the previous volume she is listed as "St.dott" (step-daughter), and > moving 1781 to Stockholm. > AD Tysslinge AI:7 (1781-1785) Image 180 / page 175 (AID: > v52420.b180.s175, NAD: SE/ULA/11610). > > // Bo Johansson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SWEDEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

The last birth on the right side, Apr. 1, is the only Maria I found born to an Olof in 1759. The mother is Maria Samuelsdotter, which was the name of the wife in the HFL I just asked about. (Tys. AI:8 (1786-1790) Image 188/ page 181) The handwriting for this birth entry is beyond my ability. Can anyone read it? Does it tell the father's position and where they lived? Thank you. Annette

I am looking at the family of Jonas Aspling and his wife Maria Olosdt. They married in 1789 and he came from p 185. Does it say that she is the same person as Maria Olsdr at the top of this page? If so, she is listed as Dott Maria Olsdr, but the head of that family is Nils Johan so he can't be her father. Where does it say she moved in from? Thank you. Annette