Thanks to all who have helped with my research for the Sons of Norway people. I think they have a good start-thanks to you. We will see what our next meeting will bring. Thanks again, Virginia

[email protected] wrote 2014-05-05 20:10: > > Could someone please check Anna Persson in the Swedish death > index and let me know when / where she died: > > Name:Anna Persson > [Anna Persdotter] > Birth Date: 15 dec 1853 > Birth Place: Leksand, Kopparberg (Dalarna), Sverige (Sweden) > > She was married to Lars Persson and as of 1899 was living in > Åsen, Gustafs, Kopparberg 18531215 Persson f. Persdotter, Anna Åsen Dead 9/17/1940. Registered in Gustafs (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 12/15/1853 in Leksand (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Widow (11/28/1924). -------------- Probably her husband: 18470703 Persson, Larspers Lars Åsen Dead 11/28/1924. Registered in Gustafs (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 7/3/1847 in Leksand (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Married man (1874). -------------- // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2014-05-05 20:39: > > I found Lars Andersson in Brunsgården. He was born in 1724 in Habo > and died in 1787. His wife was Christin Andersdotter, born in > Skiörstorp in 1732. Maybe Christin was a sister of Jonas Andersson. --- Kälvene AI:1 (1775-1812) Bild 8 / sid 7 (AID: v46491.b8.s7, NAD: SE/GLA/13306). > > Yes, here is her birth to Anders Larsson (last entry on left). I > don't see a mother's name. > Hångsdala C:1 (1702-1793) Image 350 / page 61 (AID: v27779a.b350.s61, > NAD: SE/GLA/13238) --- Cherstin(?) - The 12th May (1732) baptised And. Larsson's child Kirstin in Brogården, witnesses... > > Jonas' birth is here, first entry in 1737 - father Anders Larsson, > mother Annica Larsdotter > Hångsdala C:1 (1702-1793) Image 420 / page 75 (AID: v27779a.b420.s75, > NAD: SE/GLA/13238) --- Jonas - The 5th January (1737) was born and the 6th baptised Anders Larsson's in Brogården and Skiörstorp and its wife Annica Larsdotter's child Jonas, witnesses... // Bo Johansson

Virginia, I am going to be going to Sweden next month.  I have been sending out letters to all the addresses my deceased mother had in her book.  The addresses weren't quite as old as what you mentioned, but several of my relatives are living in their parent's or grandparent's or great-grandparent's homes, so they reached living relatives when the parents, etc. had passed on.  I hope you have some addresses to start with. Someone else I know wrote to the local newspaper requesting assistance and giving what information they had.  The had some success. Good luck. Jean Burquist Cabanilla On Monday, May 5, 2014 2:02 PM, Virginia Lindsey <[email protected]> wrote: Can anyone suggest how I might be able to find living relatives whose ancestors died in the 1940-60's. Virginia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Virginia Lindsey wrote 2014-05-05 17:49: > Bo, > Thank you for your help. I think this is possibly the right one-if it is > near Falun. > I am helping 8 Sons of Norway members with their heritage. Most of them have > mixed Norwegian and Swedish. One just had the info I sent and asked me to > try. Normally I won't try unless I have the US info back to immigration. I > will see what this brings. > Virginia But this Stina/Kjerstin Andersdotter born 6 Jan 1868 Ore is still in Sweden in Swedish Census 1900: Rosén, Karl Gustaf 1864 Father Andersdotter, Kerstin 1868 Mother - Karl Axel 1889 Child - Anna Erika 1892 Child - Gustaf Einar 1894 Child - Frans Oskar 1897 Child - Klas Edvard 1899 Child - Johan Bernhard 1900 Child Andersdotter, Kerstin b. 1868 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) h. Woman, married, mother Sunnanhed Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) -------------------------------- Both she and her husband died in Sweden, from Swedish Death Index 1901-2009 (although her birth-date 6 Oct here): 18681006-710 Rosén f. Andersdotter, Kerstin Sunnanhed 17 A Dead 12/6/1949. Registered in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 10/6/1868 (no place of birth) Widow. -------------- 18640219 Rosén, Karl Gustaf Sunnanhed Dead 10/15/1944. Registered in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 2/19/1864 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Married man (12/26/1888). -------------- // Bo Johansson

I have had some luck finding living relatives. I have found the death dates of the "known" relatives and then I ordered the Boupteckning for the deceased and that has given the names of decedents and where they were living. I have then used the Swedish telephone directory (google Swedish telephone directory and you will have several choices.) It has been helpful when the family had a less common name. Several times I have emailed the local community for help in finding folks. Good luck. Carol from KY -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Lindsey <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, May 5, 2014 5:00 pm Subject: [SWEDEN] help with living relatives Can anyone suggest how I might be able to find living relatives whose ancestors died in the 1940-60's. Virginia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This looks like it may be her: 18531215 Persson f. Persdotter, Anna Åsen Dead 9/17/1940. Registered in Gustafs (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 12/15/1853 in Leksand (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Widow (11/28/1924). -------------- Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: Säterbygden, Säters kn (Dalarnas län, Dalarna) Parish of birth in the records: Leksand (Kopparberg) Source records: DB, FB On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Could someone please check Anna Persson in the Swedish death index and > let me know when / where she died: > > Sverige, födelseuppgifter för personer som avled mellan 1901 och 2006 > Sweden, Births from the Swedish Death Index, 1901-2006 > about Anna Persson > Name:Anna Persson > [Anna Persdotter] > Birth Date: 15 dec 1853 > Birth Place: Leksand, Kopparberg (Dalarna), Sverige (Sweden) > > She was married to Lars Persson and as of 1899 was living in Åsen, > Gustafs, Kopparberg > > Thank you > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here's your Anna 18531215 Persson f. Persdotter, Anna Åsen Dead 9/17/1940. Registered in Gustafs (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 12/15/1853 in Leksand (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Widow (11/28/1924). -------------- Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010: Säterbygden, Säters kn (Dalarnas län, Dalarna) Parish of birth in the records: Leksand (Kopparberg) Source records: DB, FB On 5/5/2014 1:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Could someone please check Anna Persson in the Swedish death index and let me know when / where she died: > > Sverige, födelseuppgifter för personer som avled mellan 1901 och 2006 Sweden, Births from the Swedish Death Index, 1901-2006 > about Anna Persson > Name:Anna Persson > [Anna Persdotter] > Birth Date: 15 dec 1853 > Birth Place: Leksand, Kopparberg (Dalarna), Sverige (Sweden) > > She was married to Lars Persson and as of 1899 was living in Åsen, Gustafs, Kopparberg > > Thank you > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA

Could someone please check Anna Persson in the Swedish death index and let me know when / where she died:   Sverige, födelseuppgifter för personer som avled mellan 1901 och 2006 Sweden, Births from the Swedish Death Index, 1901-2006 about Anna Persson Name:Anna Persson [Anna Persdotter]  Birth Date: 15 dec 1853 Birth Place: Leksand, Kopparberg (Dalarna), Sverige (Sweden)   She was married to Lars Persson and as of 1899 was living in Åsen, Gustafs, Kopparberg Thank you

Can anyone suggest how I might be able to find living relatives whose ancestors died in the 1940-60's. Virginia

Thank you so much, Bo. I found Lars Andersson in Brunsgården. He was born in 1724 in Habo and died in 1787. His wife was Christin Andersdotter, born in Skiörstorp in 1732. Maybe Christin was a sister of Jonas Andersson. Yes, here is her birth to Anders Larsson (last entry on left). I don't see a mother's name. Hångsdala C:1 (1702-1793) Image 350 / page 61 (AID: v27779a.b350.s61, NAD: SE/GLA/13238) Jonas' birth is here, first entry in 1737 - father Anders Larsson, mother Annica Larsdotter Hångsdala C:1 (1702-1793) Image 420 / page 75 (AID: v27779a.b420.s75, NAD: SE/GLA/13238) Annette On 5/5/14, Bo Johansson <[email protected]> wrote: > Annette Bowen wrote 2014-05-04 22:34: > > >> This is the estate inventory for Jonas Andersson Nolgården, who was >> buried (begraft) 29 Dec 1782. Does this say he died the 28th >> December? (His son married Catharina Larsdotter.) I see the son >> Anders Jonasson and a daughter Catharina Jonasdotter, but I don't see >> a wife mentioned on this page. Image 11 mentions Annica Carlsdotter, >> who was the mother of his children. Had she already died? Who was >> Lars Jonasson on this last page? > > Year 1783 the tenth January was conducted lawful and proper estate > inventory after my with death departed husband the 28th December, Jonas > Andersson, in the crown farm Nolgården Skiörstorp in Hångsdahla "giäld" > ("pastorat"?), and "wart(?) efter härav Belägt" (was by this > concerned??) who, together with surviving heirs the under-age son Anders > Jonasson 8 years [old] the and under-age girl Kattarina Jonasdotter on > her tenth year for whom is suggested to as guardians be confirmed the > men Lars Andersson in Brunsgården Kiälvenned (Kälvene parish?) and Bengt > Andersson in Ödegården Skiörstorp, all present together with the > undersigned evaluators, and was found [to be] as follows(?), namely: > > The wife isn't named here, but the inventory is after "my husband", so > she is the "voice" of the text. > > On the last page she writes: Thus have I according to 9th chapter 1. > paragraph... and then signed as Annica Karlsdotter AKD > > Then the three "inventory conductors"/evaluators have signed. I guess > they were not closely related, unless the Bengt Andersson is the same as > the one appointed guardian for one of the children. > > The guardians were usually close relatives of the dead spouse, for > example a brother. > > > Notice that their farm was a "Krono-hemman", that is a tenant farm on > crown land (government-owned land), so it was only leased and is not > recorded as part of the estate. > > // Bo Johansson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Obviously this is not the Stina I want. The Stina I am looking for immigrated to the US ca 1890-92.She married a Johan Dofsson b ca 1880. The only information the family had was that Stina was born in 1868 near Falun. Now what! Virginia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bo Johansson Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Stina Andersdotter near FALUN? Virginia Lindsey wrote 2014-05-05 17:49: > Bo, > Thank you for your help. I think this is possibly the right one-if it > is near Falun. > I am helping 8 Sons of Norway members with their heritage. Most of > them have mixed Norwegian and Swedish. One just had the info I sent > and asked me to try. Normally I won't try unless I have the US info > back to immigration. I will see what this brings. > Virginia But this Stina/Kjerstin Andersdotter born 6 Jan 1868 Ore is still in Sweden in Swedish Census 1900: Rosén, Karl Gustaf 1864 Father Andersdotter, Kerstin 1868 Mother - Karl Axel 1889 Child - Anna Erika 1892 Child - Gustaf Einar 1894 Child - Frans Oskar 1897 Child - Klas Edvard 1899 Child - Johan Bernhard 1900 Child Andersdotter, Kerstin b. 1868 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) h. Woman, married, mother Sunnanhed Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) -------------------------------- Both she and her husband died in Sweden, from Swedish Death Index 1901-2009 (although her birth-date 6 Oct here): 18681006-710 Rosén f. Andersdotter, Kerstin Sunnanhed 17 A Dead 12/6/1949. Registered in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 10/6/1868 (no place of birth) Widow. -------------- 18640219 Rosén, Karl Gustaf Sunnanhed Dead 10/15/1944. Registered in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Born 2/19/1864 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna). Married man (12/26/1888). -------------- // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Virginia Lindsey wrote 2014-05-05 02:56: > > Can anyone help me find a family. I am told Stina Andersdotter was > born near Falun in 1868. Her father was Eric Andersson... Of course, a woman named Stina Andersdotter would not have a father named Eric Andersson, her father's name would be Anders something. // Bo Johansson

Sorry, I did not mean to resend Bo's email. I wanted to say that the information I asked for was all I had. I am helping 8 Sons of Norway members with the heritage. Many of them have mixed Swedish and Norwegian heritage. This was all one had. I normally wait until I have gotten all of the US info first-back to immigration but she had so little I thought I would try. I think this might be the correct person so I will try from here. Thank you. Virginia Lindsey

Virginia Lindsey wrote 2014-05-05 02:56: > > Can anyone help me find a family. I am told Stina Andersdotter was born near > Falun in 1868. Her father was Eric Andersson and her mother was Stina > Gudmunsdotter. I did not find her in Falun, Kristina. What are the other > nearby parishes I should try? Swedish Census 1880 has no *stina or *stin born 1868 in Kopparberg county living with a farther named Er* And* and a mother named *stina/*stin Gu*. So either she wasn't living with both parents, or they had emigrated, or some of your information is in error. This one comes closest, but with father Anders Ersson (Eriksson) instead of Eric Andersson: Ersson, Söder Anders Hemmansägare [farm owner] b. 1819 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) Man, married, father Gudmundsdotter, Stina b. 1827 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) h. Woman, married, mother Stina b. 1868 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) d. Woman, single, child Erik b. 1859 in Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) s. Man, single, child Sunnanhed Ore (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) ------------------------- They are found at Sunnanhed number 26, with daughter Stina recorded as Kerstin, in Ore AI:15b (1861-1870) Bild 234 / sid 226 (AID: v131370.b234.s226, NAD: SE/ULA/12224): - Söder Anders Ersson, born 1819-08-25, widowed 1861-04-29, married 1865-12-26. - wife Stina Gudmundsdotter, born 1827-02-11, married 1865-12-26. - s. Erik, born 1859-10-04. - d. Kerstin, born 1868-01-06. Then (as number 27?) in Ore AI:16b (1871-1880) Bild 87 / sid 82 (AID: v131372.b87.s82, NAD: SE/ULA/12224). Then as number 37 in Ore AI:17b (1881-1890) Bild 130 / sid 121 (AID: v131375.b130.s121, NAD: SE/ULA/12224). Here Erik marries and has 4 children, and Kerstin moves 1888 to page 99, where she marries a soldier: - soldier number 57 Carl Gustaf Rosen, born 1864-02-19 Ore, married 1888-12-23, accepted as soldier 1885. - wife Söder Kerstin Andersdotter, born 1868-01-06, married 1888-12-23. - s. Karl Axel, born 1889-06-10 Ore. Could this be your Stina? // Bo Johansson

Bo, Thank you for your help. I think this is possibly the right one-if it is near Falun. I am helping 8 Sons of Norway members with their heritage. Most of them have mixed Norwegian and Swedish. One just had the info I sent and asked me to try. Normally I won't try unless I have the US info back to immigration. I will see what this brings. Virginia

Annette Bowen wrote 2014-05-04 22:34: > > This is the estate inventory for Jonas Andersson Nolgården, who was > buried (begraft) 29 Dec 1782. Does this say he died the 28th > December? (His son married Catharina Larsdotter.) I see the son > Anders Jonasson and a daughter Catharina Jonasdotter, but I don't see > a wife mentioned on this page. Image 11 mentions Annica Carlsdotter, > who was the mother of his children. Had she already died? Who was > Lars Jonasson on this last page? Year 1783 the tenth January was conducted lawful and proper estate inventory after my with death departed husband the 28th December, Jonas Andersson, in the crown farm Nolgården Skiörstorp in Hångsdahla "giäld" ("pastorat"?), and "wart(?) efter härav Belägt" (was by this concerned??) who, together with surviving heirs the under-age son Anders Jonasson 8 years [old] the and under-age girl Kattarina Jonasdotter on her tenth year for whom is suggested to as guardians be confirmed the men Lars Andersson in Brunsgården Kiälvenned (Kälvene parish?) and Bengt Andersson in Ödegården Skiörstorp, all present together with the undersigned evaluators, and was found [to be] as follows(?), namely: The wife isn't named here, but the inventory is after "my husband", so she is the "voice" of the text. On the last page she writes: Thus have I according to 9th chapter 1. paragraph... and then signed as Annica Karlsdotter AKD Then the three "inventory conductors"/evaluators have signed. I guess they were not closely related, unless the Bengt Andersson is the same as the one appointed guardian for one of the children. The guardians were usually close relatives of the dead spouse, for example a brother. Notice that their farm was a "Krono-hemman", that is a tenant farm on crown land (government-owned land), so it was only leased and is not recorded as part of the estate. // Bo Johansson

Annette Bowen wrote 2014-05-04 21:29: > > Thank you, Bo. I don't read Swedish well enough to attempt the estate > inventories. This one seems to prove that the Lars Larsson whose > death I found is the correct father of Catharina and that Christina > and Anders were he siblings. I'll look again for Johannes. Were > Johannes Larsson and Anders Sandberg the men who made the inventory? --- Yes, "nämndemannen" (jury-man/court-member) "wälförståndige" (well-sensible) Johannes Larsson and "Sockensmeden" (parish smith) Anders Sandberg "biträdde såsom wärderingsmän" (assisted as evaluators). > > I think number 9 is Lars Larsson from Yllestad moving in to Kullag. in 1764. > Hångsdala B:1 (1762-1799) Image 8 / page 7 (AID: v27772.b8.s7, NAD: > SE/GLA/13238) --- Farmhand(?) Lars Larsson came from Yllesta, is in Kullagård. // Bo Johansson >> >> In 1798 Lars Larsson is recorded as survived by widow Elin >> Svensdotter and children Johannes, Anders, Christina and Catharina. >> Dimbo häradsrätt FII:19 (1798-1799) Image 275 / page 539 (AID: >> v143555.b275.s539, NAD: SE/GLA/11025)

Can anyone help me find a family. I am told Stina Andersdotter was born near Falun in 1868. Her father was Eric Andersson and her mother was Stina Gudmunsdotter. I did not find her in Falun, Kristina. What are the other nearby parishes I should try? Thank you. Virginia Lindsey

This is the estate inventory for Jonas Andersson Nolgården, who was buried (begraft) 29 Dec 1782. Does this say he died the 28th December? (His son married Catharina Larsdotter.) I see the son Anders Jonasson and a daughter Catharina Jonasdotter, but I don't see a wife mentioned on this page. Image 11 mentions Annica Carlsdotter, who was the mother of his children. Had she already died? Who was Lars Jonasson on this last page? Thank you. Annette