His parents weren't by chance Johan Olsson & Hanna? -----Original Message----- From: Joy Kersteter Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date Johan Olaus Johannesson Ägarson b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) Emigrated 3/28/1879 from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka to Amerika Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not > seem > to know much about him. > > Regards, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Johansson > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >> >> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >> that he came to America in 1882. >> >> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >> >> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. > > No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he > emigrated earlier. > > Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus > Jonsson/Johansson/etc. > > // Bo Johansson > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is an update to the request that I sent earlier this evening. I did locate the death of two of the sons Lars died 1794 and Pehr died in 1803. This would explain why I saw only 3 barn on the inventories. But I still help in understanding what the opening paragraphs state. Thanks so much, Carol in Kentucy I need help in reading the Boupteckning for Jön Larsson. He died Sept 1816 in Södra Ving. I found his Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:22 1816-1819 image 79/ page 151. I also need help in reading the Boupteckning for his wife Kierstin Olofsdotter. She died Apr 1829 in Södra Ving. I found her Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:25 1829-1831 image 286 page 557. I am looking for the children. I know there were the following children from the Household examinations and birth records: Lars 1778, Nicklas (named Olof on the birth record) 1781, Britta 1785, Pehr 1788 and Sven 1792. >From the first page of each Boupteckning it appears that there were 3 children (and 2 ??) at the time of Jön's death. And 3 children at the time of Kierstin's death. I believe that Britta is married to a Carl Carlsson but I can not make out where they are living. Thanks for all the help, Carol in Kentucky

Dear Joy, Just realized that came over at 18 years old. Did he come with any other family members? Checked the 1880 Census and there is a John Johnson from Sweden age 19 who was a servant in St. Croix County, Wisconsin. However, the 1900 Census in Bayfield, Wisconsin shows that he immigrated in 1882 through Pennsylvania. Through it shows Hannah immigrating in 1885 and we found her in the 1883 Immigration records. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Joy Kersteter Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date Johan Olaus Johannesson Ägarson b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) Emigrated 3/28/1879 from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka to Amerika Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not > seem > to know much about him. > > Regards, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Johansson > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >> >> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >> that he came to America in 1882. >> >> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >> >> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. > > No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he > emigrated earlier. > > Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus > Jonsson/Johansson/etc. > > // Bo Johansson > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Joy, Thanks...I will take a look to see if he shows up in the 1880 Census. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Joy Kersteter Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date Johan Olaus Johannesson Ägarson b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) Emigrated 3/28/1879 from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka to Amerika Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not > seem > to know much about him. > > Regards, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Johansson > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >> >> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >> that he came to America in 1882. >> >> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >> >> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. > > No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he > emigrated earlier. > > Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus > Jonsson/Johansson/etc. > > // Bo Johansson > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Lo, Thanks again. Question: The August that I see in the records. Could he be the Gustaf I see in the US Census records? Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Lois Casson Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mailing List Lance, Am sending some images off-list so you can share the actual records with your friend. Generally, the info reads from left, name, dob, place of birth. Bo has filled you in on other data. Lo On 6/27/2014 10:11 PM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: > Dear Lo, > > Thanks...I think I may make my order a mushroom burger, if this keeps up. > > How is it that she went by SÖDERBERG? Was that a farm name? > > In a later US Census there is a Gustaf SÖDERBERG living in the household. > Looks like he came to America a year earlier. > > Regards, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lois Casson > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mailing List > > > Correction on Johanna's mother's name, She was Kjerstin Andreasdotter. > > On her birth record, ArkivDigital source Ryda C:3 (1859-1871) Image 21 / > page 16 (AID: v14243.b21.s16, NAD: SE/GLA/13436), her father was Magnus > Johansson. The 1820 year of birth must be correct for Kjerstin because > her age is 41 in the birth record. > > Am trying to figure out the place of birth (farm/village) but am having > a hard time. > > Lo > > > On 6/27/2014 7:06 PM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: >> Dear List Members, >> >> I am just beginning to do research in Sweden on the behalf of a friend of >> mine. He promised me a hamburger from McDonald’s if I help him discover >> his wife’s family ancestry. >> >> Her name was Hanna SÖDERBERG born 13 Dec 1860. According to immigration >> records she was from Essunga, Västra Götaland, Sverige. >> >> Can anybody help me finding her or directing me to the correct mail list? >> >> Regards, >> Lance >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bo Johansson wrote 2014-06-28 22:01: > > Persson, Liss Mats > Hemmansägare [farm-owner] > b. 1830 in Mockfjärd (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) > Man, married, father > > Heden > Mockfjärd (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) > ---------------------------- > > They are found At Heden number 27, where Liss Mats Persson dies > 1884-03-04, in Mockfjärd AI:6 (1874-1883) Image 97 / page 91 (AID: > v131034.b97.s91, NAD: SE/ULA/12230). > > So he would have been buried at the Mockfjärd churchyard [...] I don't see Liss Mats Persson on the Buried in Sweden CD, but his son Liss Per Matsson is there: 1855-11-01 Matsson, Liss Per f. 1 Nov 1855 Heden, Mockfjärd Död 18 Nov 1921 Begravd 24 Nov 1921 Mockfjärds kyrkogård, avd. Gamla kyrkogården, nr. 3A (kista, nr 6 i graven) Graven upplåten i evärdlig tid (upplåtelse nr 1) Gagnefs kyrkliga samfällighet (Gagnefs kn, Dalarnas län) Kyrkbyvägen 35, 78041 GAGNEF Tel. 0241-610 12 [email protected] ------------------------------ These are buried in the same grave: Gråbo, Bror Alrik 19240806-7110 (buried 1999) Matsson f. Matsdotter, Lissanna 18501223 Matsson f. Persdotter, Kymmer Kerstin 18290208 Matsson, Kymmer Anders 18650609 Matsson, Kymmer Mats 18251214 Matsson, Liss Per 18551101 Persdotter, Kristina 18890219 Persson f. Persson, Liss Maria 18870125 Persson, Liss Per Axel 18810109 // Bo Johansson

I need help in reading the Boupteckning for Jön Larsson. He died Sept 1816 in Södra Ving. I found his Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:22 1816-1819 image 79/ page 151. I also need help in reading the Boupteckning for his wife Kierstin Olofsdotter. She died Apr 1829 in Södra Ving. I found her Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:25 1829-1831 image 286 page 557. I am looking for the children. I know there were the following children from the Household examinations and birth records: Lars 1778, Nicklas (named Olof on the birth record) 1781, Britta 1785, Pehr 1788 and Sven 1792. >From the first page of each Boupteckning it appears that there were 3 children (and 2 ??) at the time of Jön's death. And 3 children at the time of Kierstin's death. I believe that Britta is married to a Carl Carlsson but I can not make out where they are living. Thanks for all the help, Carol in Kentucky

Linda Culbertson wrote 2014-06-28 20:43: > > I am trying to find out where my gg grandfather is buried in Sweden. His > name is Liss Mats Person (Persson) 1830 - 1884 and is supposed to be buried > in a Lutheran Church yard near Falun (Lake Siljan). I have no idea where to > look at, is any of this information on line? I would appreciate any help > with this that I can get. My parents have a trip planned and want to see his > grave. > A family member visited his grave about 15 years ago but is now deceased so > I have no help with this. Is he this one from Swedish Census 1880: Persson, Liss Mats 1830 Father Matsdotter, Anna 1833 Mother - Mats 1862 Child - Anna 1866 Child - Kerstin 1878 Child ---------- Blomqvist, Olof 1858 Father, son-in-law Matsdotter, Brita 1859Mother - Lovisa 1880 Child Persson, Liss Mats Hemmansägare [farm-owner] b. 1830 in Mockfjärd (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) Man, married, father Heden Mockfjärd (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna) ---------------------------- They are found At Heden number 27, where Liss Mats Persson dies 1884-03-04, in Mockfjärd AI:6 (1874-1883) Image 97 / page 91 (AID: v131034.b97.s91, NAD: SE/ULA/12230). So he would have been buried at the Mockfjärd churchyard, but be aware that Swedish graves are not forever. If no-one renews the lease, the grave-plot will be re-used by a new burial. Map/photo: http://preview.tinyurl.com/mymx7s2 http://kso2.lantmateriet.se/?e=497992&n=6706894&z=12&profile=default_orto_noauth // Bo Johansson

Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date Johan Olaus Johannesson Ägarson b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) Emigrated 3/28/1879 from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka to Amerika Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not seem > to know much about him. > > Regards, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bo Johansson > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >> >> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >> that he came to America in 1882. >> >> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >> >> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. > > No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he > emigrated earlier. > > Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus > Jonsson/Johansson/etc. > > // Bo Johansson > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lance, Am sending some images off-list so you can share the actual records with your friend. Generally, the info reads from left, name, dob, place of birth. Bo has filled you in on other data. Lo On 6/27/2014 10:11 PM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: > Dear Lo, > > Thanks...I think I may make my order a mushroom burger, if this keeps up. > > How is it that she went by SÖDERBERG? Was that a farm name? > > In a later US Census there is a Gustaf SÖDERBERG living in the household. > Looks like he came to America a year earlier. > > Regards, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lois Casson > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 7:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Mailing List > > > Correction on Johanna's mother's name, She was Kjerstin Andreasdotter. > > On her birth record, ArkivDigital source Ryda C:3 (1859-1871) Image 21 / > page 16 (AID: v14243.b21.s16, NAD: SE/GLA/13436), her father was Magnus > Johansson. The 1820 year of birth must be correct for Kjerstin because > her age is 41 in the birth record. > > Am trying to figure out the place of birth (farm/village) but am having > a hard time. > > Lo > > > On 6/27/2014 7:06 PM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: >> Dear List Members, >> >> I am just beginning to do research in Sweden on the behalf of a friend of >> mine. He promised me a hamburger from McDonald’s if I help him discover >> his wife’s family ancestry. >> >> Her name was Hanna SÖDERBERG born 13 Dec 1860. According to immigration >> records she was from Essunga, Västra Götaland, Sverige. >> >> Can anybody help me finding her or directing me to the correct mail list? >> >> Regards, >> Lance >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA

Thanks, Bo. I could readthe Lilla Lund, saw it on several birth records. Found a Lilla Lind in one Essunga FHL. Just couldn't find the right place....Lois On 6/28/2014 12:35 AM, Bo Johansson wrote: > Lois Casson wrote 2014-06-28 04:16: >> On her birth record, ArkivDigital source Ryda C:3 (1859-1871) Image 21 / >> page 16 (AID: v14243.b21.s16, NAD: SE/GLA/13436), her father was Magnus >> Johansson. The 1820 year of birth must be correct for Kjerstin because >> her age is 41 in the birth record. >> >> Am trying to figure out the place of birth (farm/village) but am having >> a hard time. > Their address is Lille Lund, but this volume covers the "pastorat" > (Ryda, Naum, Södra Kedum, and Halvås parishes), and that page is for > "Kjedum". > > They are found at Lilla Lund in Södra Kedum AI:3 (1858-1864) Image 71 / > page 60 (AID: v14321.b71.s60, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). > > // Bo Johansson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA

Carol, I'm sure that a Swede will help you with the bouppteckning translations, but if you want to try for yourself, I have a dozen examples online that may help. I had lots of help with those translations. Go to http://www.sandinfamily.com, choose Genealogy Resources, then Bouppteckning Translation List, and then look at as many as you want. You can see the original document image, the transcription, and the English translation for each one. Good luck! Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Larson Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Fwd: help reading Estate inventories in Södra Ving Update to earlier request This is an update to the request that I sent earlier this evening. I did locate the death of two of the sons Lars died 1794 and Pehr died in 1803. This would explain why I saw only 3 barn on the inventories. But I still help in understanding what the opening paragraphs state. Thanks so much, Carol in Kentucy I need help in reading the Boupteckning for Jön Larsson. He died Sept 1816 in Södra Ving. I found his Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:22 1816-1819 image 79/ page 151. I also need help in reading the Boupteckning for his wife Kierstin Olofsdotter. She died Apr 1829 in Södra Ving. I found her Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:25 1829-1831 image 286 page 557. I am looking for the children. I know there were the following children from the Household examinations and birth records: Lars 1778, Nicklas (named Olof on the birth record) 1781, Britta 1785, Pehr 1788 and Sven 1792. >From the first page of each Boupteckning it appears that there were 3 children (and 2 ??) at the time of Jön's death. And 3 children at the time of Kierstin's death. I believe that Britta is married to a Carl Carlsson but I can not make out where they are living. Thanks for all the help, Carol in Kentucky

Brian Schwerkolt wrote 2014-06-28 16:15: > > I am a bit confused, mostly because I have not dealt with patronymics > before. > I can see how Maja Greta ( I am assuming that"s her first and middle name) > could be heard as Margreta. Swedes didn't (and don't) have the concept of middle name. A person could have one or more given names (first names), and one or more surnames (last names). For example Lars Anders Eriksson Strandberg, where: Lars Anders = two given names Eriksson = patronymic surname (Erik's son) Strandberg = non-patronymic surname See: http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/Names.pdf // Bo Johansson

Carol Larson wrote 2014-06-28 17:07: > > Here are the birthdates and references for the other children > > Kierstin 30 April 1751 Södra Ving (1750-1791) image 8/page 7 --- Address the "torp" Blankared. But the date is probably not April, but one of the months May-July. Probably July, spelled "Julij". > > Rangilla (age 34 in 1788 Boupteckning) > > Britta 21 April 1757 Södra Ving (1750-1791) image17/page 25 --- Address Blankared. > > Pehr 1 Dec 1761 Södra Ving (1750-1791) image 23/page 37 --- Address Blankared. > > It appears that the family has moved between the birth of > Kiersten and Britta. --- No, it seems they were at Blankared. It is of course possible that they left and came back, but how likely is that? > > Is it possible that Rangilla was born with a different > name and by 1788 she was using the name Rangilla? --- I think an error or missed entry in the birth book is likelier. Or the mother could have been in another parish, for example visiting relatives, at the birth. And this early that would probably not be recorded in the home parish. But I found her, Rangilla born 4 May 1754, parents Oluf Jönsson and Marta Persdotter of Blankared. Södra Ving C:2 (1750-1791) Image 12 / page 15 (AID: v44538.b12.s15, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) > > So I have the correct birth month for Kierstin? --- No, probably July. // Bo Johansson

Brian Schwerkolt wrote 2014-06-28 16:15: > > I am a bit confused, mostly because I have not dealt with patronymics > before. > I can see how Maja Greta ( I am assuming that"s her first and middle name) > could be heard as Margreta. What I am having a hard time with is Olson ( > and they used Ohlson alot also) coming from Johanson. Understanding at the > person on the boat wrote down what they heard. --- Yes it is difficult to understand, but the children are definitely the same. Maja Greta are short forms of Maria Margareta. Perhaps the husband had already emigrated under a different name to get away from his criminal reputation? Notice that the names recorded in the Göteborg port police emigration lists were reported to them by the emigration agents, and were the names on the tickets. But there is also the possibility of an error, perhaps by the ticket agent, perhaps by the police recorder. > > Her death certificate here said her father was John Anderson which makes > sense with Andersdotter. --- No it doesn't, her father should be named Anders something. But it was not unusual for Americans, who didn't understand the patronymic naming system, to get parents' names wrong when reporting the death of an old relative. Her birth is recorded as Maja Greta born 20 Apr 1845, parents Andreas Nilsson and wife Britta Johansdotter of Sågebacken, in Herrestad C:4 (1830-1848) Image 790 / page 149 (AID: v2847a.b790.s149, NAD: SE/GLA/13205). They are found at Sågebacken in Herrestad AI:11 (1845-1850) Image 239 / page 460 (AID: v2833.b239.s460, NAD: SE/GLA/13205): - Andreas Nilsson, born 1805-02-04 Dalsland(?) [province?]. - wife Britta Johansdotter, born 1809 Stadsfjället [in Uddevalla?]. - 5 children born 1839-1848. > > I also don't know where the husband is. He is not listed with then on that > page of the boat list. I will check the whole list to see if he pops up. --- Does he show up with them in America? If he does, perhaps he had emigrated earlier without giving proper notice to the home parish. // Bo Johansson

Dear List Memberts, Sorry, didn't include timeframe. Kjerstin ANDERDOTTER was 41 in 1861, so I believe they married sometime between 1840 - 1860. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Lance L. Piatt Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 3:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Magnus JOHANSSON & Kjerstin ANDERSDOTTER of Ryda Dear List Members, My buddy was pretty excited about finding Hannah SÖDERBERG. He took me out to lunch, however, the Mushroom Burger will come once I find John Olaus Johnson. I am still digging on that one. 1910 Census says he came to America in 1884. Meanwhile, I would like to find the marriage between Magnus JOHANSSON and Kjerstin ANDERSDOTTER of Ryda & Essunga, Skaraborgs. Question: Excepting hamburgers in payment: does that make me a professional genealogist? Or am I just cheating? Regards, Lance ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David Froberg and Jeanne Smith wrote 2014-06-28 15:41: > > Can I get help reading some of the words in the following > christening record? I think I’ve got everything except where: > I’ve put square brackets > Ljusnarsberg C:5 (1714-1723) Image 100 (AID: v53554a.b100, NAD: > SE/ULA/10860) > > "D. Oägta Barn Ano. 1721. --- Oächta barn Anno 1721 (the "n" is over-lined, meaning it is double) > > Per Anderssons barn i Bångbro, eller [??] Elisabet An- > ders dotters i Biörckfallet Kerstin föd den 25. febr. > föddes på ... [illegible] 1 Martii. Wittnen Johan Pär- > sson i Laggarbo och dess hustru. Erich Bangtsson i Axion > och hust: Margeta Anderstotter i Kiöhlsiöfallet" Per Anderssons barn i Bångbro, eller Elisabet An- dersdotters i Biörckfallet Kerstin föd den 25. febr. föddes på ... [illegible] 1 Martii. Per Andersson's child in Långbro or Elisabet Andersdotter's in Björkfallet Kerstin born the 25th [of] February föddes på nyt den 1. Martii. Born again [= baptized] the 1st of March. Witnen Johan Pär- sson i Laggarbo och des hustru. Erich Bengtsson i Axsiön och hust: Margeta Andersdotter i Kiöhlsiöfallet. Witnesses Johan Pärsson in Laggarbo and its wife. Erich Bengtsson in Axsjön and wife Margeta Andersdotter in Kölsjöfallet. // Bo Johansson

Dear List Members, My buddy was pretty excited about finding Hannah SÖDERBERG. He took me out to lunch, however, the Mushroom Burger will come once I find John Olaus Johnson. I am still digging on that one. 1910 Census says he came to America in 1884. Meanwhile, I would like to find the marriage between Magnus JOHANSSON and Kjerstin ANDERSDOTTER of Ryda & Essunga, Skaraborgs. Question: Excepting hamburgers in payment: does that make me a professional genealogist? Or am I just cheating? Regards, Lance

I have Swedish relatives who have three and four given names but they often go by the third or fourth name in the order. It becomes confusing to keep track of it. Do Swedens ever change the name order? Carol in Kentucky PS in the South I understand that is called a "stacked name" like Donald Robert or Billy Bob. -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 28, 2014 12:30 pm Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Emmigration Lookup Please Brian Schwerkolt wrote 2014-06-28 16:15: > > I am a bit confused, mostly because I have not dealt with patronymics > before. > I can see how Maja Greta ( I am assuming that"s her first and middle name) > could be heard as Margreta. Swedes didn't (and don't) have the concept of middle name. A person could have one or more given names (first names), and one or more surnames (last names). For example Lars Anders Eriksson Strandberg, where: Lars Anders = two given names Eriksson = patronymic surname (Erik's son) Strandberg = non-patronymic surname See: http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/Names.pdf // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you thank you Bo....Fantastic...one more branch added. Carol in KY -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jun 28, 2014 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Fwd: Searching in Södra Ving Carol Larson wrote 2014-06-28 17:07: > > Here are the birthdates and references for the other children > > Kierstin 30 April 1751 Södra Ving (1750-1791) image 8/page 7 --- Address the "torp" Blankared. But the date is probably not April, but one of the months May-July. Probably July, spelled "Julij". > > Rangilla (age 34 in 1788 Boupteckning) > > Britta 21 April 1757 Södra Ving (1750-1791) image17/page 25 --- Address Blankared. > > Pehr 1 Dec 1761 Södra Ving (1750-1791) image 23/page 37 --- Address Blankared. > > It appears that the family has moved between the birth of > Kiersten and Britta. --- No, it seems they were at Blankared. It is of course possible that they left and came back, but how likely is that? > > Is it possible that Rangilla was born with a different > name and by 1788 she was using the name Rangilla? --- I think an error or missed entry in the birth book is likelier. Or the mother could have been in another parish, for example visiting relatives, at the birth. And this early that would probably not be recorded in the home parish. But I found her, Rangilla born 4 May 1754, parents Oluf Jönsson and Marta Persdotter of Blankared. Södra Ving C:2 (1750-1791) Image 12 / page 15 (AID: v44538.b12.s15, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) > > So I have the correct birth month for Kierstin? --- No, probably July. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message