Dear Bo, So, I take it as a probably not. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Johannes OLAFSSON & Johanna SVENSDOTTER of Barne-Åsaka Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-30 05:29: > > Is this the marriage between his parents? > > Name: Olof Andersson > Spouse's Name: Annicka Jansdotter > Event Date: 01 Oct 1815 > Event Place: Steneby, Älvsborg, Sweden It is the right names, so they could well be the parents of Johannes Olofsson born 1821-07-12 Lekåsa. ArkivDigital Steneby C:4 (1774-1829) Image 122 / page 235 (AID: v10946.b122.s235, NAD: SE/GLA/13500): Married 1 Oct 1815, bachelor Olof Andersson in Korsbyn and maid Annicka Jansdotter in Taxviken. Notice that Lekåsa was the main parish of the Lekåsa, Essunga, Barne-Åsaka, Fåglum, and Kyrkås (Sandbäck) "pastorat", so his birthplace Lekåsa might be Lekåsa parish, or one of the other parishes of the "pastorat". But it looks like his birth is recorded 13 july 1821 in Lekåsa parish, parents Olof Andersson and Annika Jansdotter of Ösergården. Lekåsa C:4 (1789-1831) Image 88 / page 167 (AID: v9423.b88.s167, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). They are found at Östergården in Lekåsa AI:2 (1814-1838) Image 8 / page 7 (AID: v9736.b8.s7, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). Notice there was an earlier son Johannes born and died 1818. Then in Lekåsa AI:3 (1825-1832) Image 11 / page 7 (AID: v9737.b11.s7, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). His mother has remarried, and dies 1831, Johannes moves 1831 to Algutstorp(?). // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Pono, And thank you for the earlier link to the translation help page. I sometimes give up too easily and I must remember patience. I am learning that boomerang kids are not restricted to our times. This family certainly had kids coming and going and they were all together in a little stuga. Carol in Kentucky -----Original Message----- From: Pono (Norm) <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 10:08 pm Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Searching in Södra Ving next generation Hi Carol Christina p171 Gustaf p68 Johanna p127 Good luck. Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Larson Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Searching in Södra Ving next generation I have followed "my family" (it is my husband's) through the Household examinations. Now I would like to find where each of the children goes. I just can't read what the präst writes. I am looking at Älvsborg Södra Ving Household Examination AI:5 1836-1846 Image 76 of 242 Ancestry Image 72/page 65 AD I see that Christina (born 1822) moves somewhere in 1838 Gustaf (born 1825) moves somewhere in 1842 Johanna (born 1817) moves somewhere in 1836. I have not mastered the abbreviations or perhaps they have moved to other places? Thanks for you help, Carol in Kentucky ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-29 17:37: > > Is there are marriage listed for this couple? Looks like they married before 1852. > > Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 --- ArkivDigital: Lekåsa AI:9 (1870-1880) Image 187 / page 181 (AID: v9745.b187.s181, NAD: SE/GLA/13323) > > Svenstorp --- Stora Svenstorp Notice that this is in Barne-Åsaka parish, but recorded in the Lekåsa HFL book. > > 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa --- owner of 5/24 mantal Johannes Olofsson, born in Lekåsa Olaf is the Norwegian form. > > h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka > son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 -- "Se nedan" (see below), he moves 1878 to below on the page > > son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 --- Svante > > son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 --- destination Eling parish(??). > > son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 > son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka > son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka --- They are earlier at Stora Svenstorp, with two older children, and Johanna's parents Sven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter. Barne-Åsaka AI:5 (1847-1853) Image 37 / page 67 (AID: v9757.b37.s67, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): - d. Maja Stina, born 1845-05-25, died 1853-01-30. - s. Lars, born 1848-10-18 here(?). Before that in Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 26 / page 44 (AID: v9756.b26.s44, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). They came 1846 from Lilla Svenstorp, where the had a son Sven born 1844-05-02 and died 1844. Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 29 / page 50 (AID: v9756.b29.s50, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Their marriage is recorded as number 11, 30 June 1843, farm-owning bachelor Johannes Olofsson in Stora Svenstorp and daughter-at-home Johanna Svensdotter of Lilla Svenstorp. Lekåsa E:1 (1789-1869) Image 40 / page 73 (AID: v9441.b40.s73, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). His parents recorded as Olof Andersson and Annika Jansdotter, her parents as Sven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter. // Bo Johansson

Thanks for all your hard work...I am sure the last several weeks have been a challenge when it was so difficult to connect with Ancestry and Rootsweb. You are appreciated. Carol in Kentucky -----Original Message----- From: Lois Casson <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jun 29, 2014 8:08 pm Subject: [SWEDEN] Message from List Admin...unsubscribe messages We have had another spate of members being unsubscribed by the list server. This happens when list members' mail servers, for whatever reason, have bounced multiple messages from the list. This can happen very quickly if a mail server is down for just a short while. This is a trigger for the list server to automatically unsubscribe a member. The only thing one can do if they are unsubscribed is to resubscribe. I have no control over this. -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this the marriage between his parents? Name: Olof Andersson Spouse's Name: Annicka Jansdotter Event Date: 01 Oct 1815 Event Place: Steneby, Älvsborg, Sweden Regards, Lance No image available Search collection About this collection Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M43244-1 , System Origin: Sweden-EASy , GS Film number: 85796 -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Johannes OLAFSSON & Johanna SVENSDOTTER of Barne-Åsaka Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-29 17:37: > > Is there are marriage listed for this couple? Looks like they married > before 1852. > > Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 --- ArkivDigital: Lekåsa AI:9 (1870-1880) Image 187 / page 181 (AID: v9745.b187.s181, NAD: SE/GLA/13323) > > Svenstorp --- Stora Svenstorp Notice that this is in Barne-Åsaka parish, but recorded in the Lekåsa HFL book. > > 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa --- owner of 5/24 mantal Johannes Olofsson, born in Lekåsa Olaf is the Norwegian form. > > h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka > son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 -- "Se nedan" (see below), he moves 1878 to below on the page > > son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 --- Svante > > son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 --- destination Eling parish(??). > > son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 > son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka > son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka --- They are earlier at Stora Svenstorp, with two older children, and Johanna's parents Sven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter. Barne-Åsaka AI:5 (1847-1853) Image 37 / page 67 (AID: v9757.b37.s67, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): - d. Maja Stina, born 1845-05-25, died 1853-01-30. - s. Lars, born 1848-10-18 here(?). Before that in Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 26 / page 44 (AID: v9756.b26.s44, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). They came 1846 from Lilla Svenstorp, where the had a son Sven born 1844-05-02 and died 1844. Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 29 / page 50 (AID: v9756.b29.s50, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Their marriage is recorded as number 11, 30 June 1843, farm-owning bachelor Johannes Olofsson in Stora Svenstorp and daughter-at-home Johanna Svensdotter of Lilla Svenstorp. Lekåsa E:1 (1789-1869) Image 40 / page 73 (AID: v9441.b40.s73, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). His parents recorded as Olof Andersson and Annika Jansdotter, her parents as Sven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Dear Bo, Thanks...Anything on their final fate? Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Johannes OLAFSSON & Johanna SVENSDOTTER of Barne-Åsaka Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-29 17:37: > > Is there are marriage listed for this couple? Looks like they married > before 1852. > > Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 --- ArkivDigital: Lekåsa AI:9 (1870-1880) Image 187 / page 181 (AID: v9745.b187.s181, NAD: SE/GLA/13323) > > Svenstorp --- Stora Svenstorp Notice that this is in Barne-Åsaka parish, but recorded in the Lekåsa HFL book. > > 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa --- owner of 5/24 mantal Johannes Olofsson, born in Lekåsa Olaf is the Norwegian form. > > h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka > son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 -- "Se nedan" (see below), he moves 1878 to below on the page > > son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 --- Svante > > son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 --- destination Eling parish(??). > > son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 > son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka > son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka --- They are earlier at Stora Svenstorp, with two older children, and Johanna's parents Sven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter. Barne-Åsaka AI:5 (1847-1853) Image 37 / page 67 (AID: v9757.b37.s67, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): - d. Maja Stina, born 1845-05-25, died 1853-01-30. - s. Lars, born 1848-10-18 here(?). Before that in Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 26 / page 44 (AID: v9756.b26.s44, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). They came 1846 from Lilla Svenstorp, where the had a son Sven born 1844-05-02 and died 1844. Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 29 / page 50 (AID: v9756.b29.s50, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Their marriage is recorded as number 11, 30 June 1843, farm-owning bachelor Johannes Olofsson in Stora Svenstorp and daughter-at-home Johanna Svensdotter of Lilla Svenstorp. Lekåsa E:1 (1789-1869) Image 40 / page 73 (AID: v9441.b40.s73, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). His parents recorded as Olof Andersson and Annika Jansdotter, her parents as Sven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have followed "my family" (it is my husband's) through the Household examinations. Now I would like to find where each of the children goes. I just can't read what the präst writes. I am looking at Älvsborg Södra Ving Household Examination AI:5 1836-1846 Image 76 of 242 Ancestry Image 72/page 65 AD I see that Christina (born 1822) moves somewhere in 1838 Gustaf (born 1825) moves somewhere in 1842 Johanna (born 1817) moves somewhere in 1836. I have not mastered the abbreviations or perhaps they have moved to other places? Thanks for you help, Carol in Kentucky

Hi Carol Christina p171 Gustaf p68 Johanna p127 Good luck. Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Larson Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Searching in Södra Ving next generation I have followed "my family" (it is my husband's) through the Household examinations. Now I would like to find where each of the children goes. I just can't read what the präst writes. I am looking at Älvsborg Södra Ving Household Examination AI:5 1836-1846 Image 76 of 242 Ancestry Image 72/page 65 AD I see that Christina (born 1822) moves somewhere in 1838 Gustaf (born 1825) moves somewhere in 1842 Johanna (born 1817) moves somewhere in 1836. I have not mastered the abbreviations or perhaps they have moved to other places? Thanks for you help, Carol in Kentucky ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-29 09:48: > > Still, I cannot imagine an 18 year old traveling half way around the world > by himself. --- It wasn't at all unusual. Even younger people would emigrate alone, but then usually with someone from the same or neighboring parish traveling at the same time, or with someone on a visit from America. I don't see any more people emigrating at the same time in the Barne-Åsaka 1879 moving-out list in Barne-Åsaka B:1 (1870-1895) Image 43 / page 95 (AID: v9479.b43.s95, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). // Bo Johansson >> >> Johan Olaus Johannesson >> Ägarson >> b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergötland) >> Emigrated 3/28/1879 >> from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka >> to Amerika >> Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181

Dear Joy, It must be something that would possess a young man to travel all that distance, from friends and family to start a new life all by himself. Though I would think these days they would say he was ADD and medicate him. Yet thinking about it, back in the 1970s, when I was 17 I would hitchhike across U.S. and be back in time for school. Don't recommend it these days. My dad said I always had a restless spirit. Started going on hikes, on my own, since I was 4 years old. Boy, I use to get into such trouble. But I always found my way home. Now at 58 I have travelled all around the world and would like to travel more. My grandparents never left the States. Maybe I should have been medicated. Nah! Now back to my friend's Swedish heritage. What I would like to do for him is go back 3 generations, and see what he want to do after that. Hopefully, pay me my Mushroom Burger. But this is what I have thus far. Johannes OLAFSSON (s/o ?) born 13 Jul 1821 Lekasa, Skaraborgs, Sweden, married to Johanna SVENSDOTTER (d/o ?) 04 Oct 1825 Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs Sweden. Magnus JOHANSSON (s/o ?) born 02 Mar 1816 Tengene, Skaraborgs, Sweden, died 20 Mar 1877 Essunga, Skaraborgs, Sweden, married 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs, Sweden to Kjerstin ANDERSDOTTER (d/o ?) born 08 Sep 1820 Magra, Älvsborgs, Sweden, died 19 Dec 1892 Essunga, Skaraborgs, Sweden. Let me know if I have anything wrong. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Joy Gulden Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) My grandfather traveled from northern Norway to Quebec, then to Minnesota at age 16 all by himself. He had a brother and sister in Minnesota and his sister sent him the tickets, so he had a place to go. >From his farm home near Harstad to Trondheim to Hull, England, across England by train, then to another ship to Quebec and by however means to the southwestern part of Minnesota. It still amazes me, but it happened all the time in those days. A second Joy On 6/29/2014 12:48 AM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: > Dear Joy, > > Well, I'll be! > > Still, I cannot imagine an 18 year old traveling half way around the world > by himself. > > Thanks, > Lance > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol Larson wrote 2014-06-29 04:10: > > [...] Jön Larsson. > [...] his wife Kierstin Olofsdotter. > > I am looking for the children. I know there were the following > children from the Household examinations and birth records: > Lars 1778, Nicklas (named Olof on the birth record) 1781, > Britta 1785, Pehr 1788 and Sven 1792. Perhaps Nicklas is a misreading of Olaus? He is called Olaus Jösson born 1781, and seems to take over as "åbo" at Klockaregården when his parents move to Korsled in 1806. Södra Ving AI:2 (1794-1812) Image 135 / page 229 (AID: v44524.b135.s229, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). Olaus Jönsson also in Södra Ving AI:3 (1811-1824) Image 151 / page 288 (AID: v44525.b151.s288, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). But it does look like Niclas (perhaps a typo?) in Södra Ving AI:1 (1777-1794) Image 149 / page 282 (AID: v44523.b149.s282, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). // Bo Johansson

Carol Larson wrote 2014-06-29 04:10: > > I need help in reading the Boupteckning for Jön Larsson. He died > Sept 1816 in Södra Ving. I found his Boupteckning in > Ås Häradsrätt FII:22 1816-1819 image 79/ page 151. --- Year 1816 the 2nd November was after appropriate request lawful estate inventory conducted of the remaining property after deceased "torpare" Jöns Larsson from Korsled in Wing parish, who recently with death departed and survived by his in [his] lifetime dear wife Kjerstin Olofsdotter and 3 children, 2 sons of age and one daughter Brita under-age to whom [as] guardian was suggested Erik Olofsson in Tåboll Wing. The property was reported by the widow after [reminder?] of force of oath in the order that follows. > > I also need help in reading the Boupteckning for his wife > Kierstin Olofsdotter. She died Apr 1829 in Södra Ving. I found her > Boupteckning in Ås Häradsrätt FII:25 1829-1831 image 286 page 557. --- Year 1829 the 5th May was after request lawful estate inventory conducted of the remaining property after deceased lodger widow Cherstin Olofsdotter in the "torp" Tröggås, who with death departed the 4th April and was survived by 3 children, son Olaus and Sven daughter Britta married to Carl Carlsson in Tröggåhs, thus all of age, the property was reported by the daughter Britta in the order that follows, namely: "Tröggås" must be Tryggås, found in Södra Ving AI:4 (1824-1835) Image 56 / page 101 (AID: v44526.b56.s101, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). // Bo Johansson

My grandfather traveled from northern Norway to Quebec, then to Minnesota at age 16 all by himself. He had a brother and sister in Minnesota and his sister sent him the tickets, so he had a place to go. >From his farm home near Harstad to Trondheim to Hull, England, across England by train, then to another ship to Quebec and by however means to the southwestern part of Minnesota. It still amazes me, but it happened all the time in those days. A second Joy On 6/29/2014 12:48 AM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: > Dear Joy, > > Well, I'll be! > > Still, I cannot imagine an 18 year old traveling half way around the world > by himself. > > Thanks, > Lance > > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Dear Lance, My husband's aunt travelled alone from Finland at age 16.! All the best. Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance L. Piatt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:48:16 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) Dear Joy, Well, I'll be! Still, I cannot imagine an 18 year old traveling half way around the world by himself. Thanks, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Joy Kersteter Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) The Household examination page mentioned in the Emibas Record shows the family as: Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Svenstorp 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka That’s very close to Johan Olsson and Hanna for the parents. Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > His parents weren't by chance Johan Olsson & Hanna? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Kersteter > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson > emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date > > > Johan Olaus Johannesson > Ägarson > b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) > Emigrated 3/28/1879 > from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka > to Amerika > Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 > > Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 > > > Joy > > On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not >> seem >> to know much about him. >> >> Regards, >> Lance >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bo Johansson >> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) >> >> Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >>> >>> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >>> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >>> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >>> that he came to America in 1882. >>> >>> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >>> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >>> >>> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >>> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. >> >> No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he >> emigrated earlier. >> >> Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus >> Jonsson/Johansson/etc. >> >> // Bo Johansson >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bo thank you for all the wonderful new information. So many leads to work on. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bo Johansson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Carol Larson wrote 2014-06-29 04:10: >> >> [...] Jön Larsson. >> [...] his wife Kierstin Olofsdotter. >> >> I am looking for the children. I know there were the following >> children from the Household examinations and birth records: >> Lars 1778, Nicklas (named Olof on the birth record) 1781, >> Britta 1785, Pehr 1788 and Sven 1792. > > Perhaps Nicklas is a misreading of Olaus? > > He is called Olaus Jösson born 1781, and seems to take over as "åbo" at > Klockaregården when his parents move to Korsled in 1806. > Södra Ving AI:2 (1794-1812) Image 135 / page 229 (AID: v44524.b135.s229, > NAD: SE/GLA/13540). > > Olaus Jönsson also in Södra Ving AI:3 (1811-1824) Image 151 / page 288 > (AID: v44525.b151.s288, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). > > But it does look like Niclas (perhaps a typo?) in Södra Ving AI:1 > (1777-1794) Image 149 / page 282 (AID: v44523.b149.s282, NAD: SE/GLA/13540). > > // Bo Johansson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List Members, Is there are marriage listed for this couple? Looks like they married before 1852. Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Svenstorp 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka Regards, Lance

Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-29 01:11: > > Sorry, didn't include timeframe. Kjerstin ANDERDOTTER was 41 in 1861, so I > believe they married sometime between 1840 - 1860. > > Meanwhile, I would like to find the marriage between Magnus JOHANSSON and > Kjerstin ANDERSDOTTER of Ryda & Essunga, Skaraborgs. Perhaps this family at Kvarnevad in Essunga AI:8 (1870-1880) Image 157 / page 146 (AID: v9782.b157.s146, NAD: SE/GLA/13107): - owner Magnus Jonsson, born 1816-06(?)-02(?) Tengene(??), died 1877-03-20. - wife (later widow, retired) Kerstin Andreasdotter, born 1820-09-08 Magra. - s. Agust, born 1853-04-20 Ryda. - s. Anders, born 1854-10-15 Ryda. - d. Anna, born 1857-01-01 Ryda. - d. Johanna, born 1860-12-13 Ryda. They are earlier at Lille Lund in Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534): - owner Magnus Johansson, born 1816-03-02 Tengene. - wife Kjerstin Andreasdotter, born 1820-08-08 Magra, came 1852 from Mellby(?). - wife Annika(?) ???dotter, born 1806-05-04(?) Ryda, died 1851-04-16. - 5 children born 1841-1857. Marriage recorded 23 Oct 1852, farm-owner widower Magnus Johansson of Lille Lund, and maid Kjerstin Andreasdotter of the same place. Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: SE/GLA/13436). // Bo Johansson

Dear Joy, Well, I'll be! Still, I cannot imagine an 18 year old traveling half way around the world by himself. Thanks, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Joy Kersteter Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) The Household examination page mentioned in the Emibas Record shows the family as: Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Svenstorp 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka That’s very close to Johan Olsson and Hanna for the parents. Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > His parents weren't by chance Johan Olsson & Hanna? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Kersteter > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson > emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date > > > Johan Olaus Johannesson > Ägarson > b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) > Emigrated 3/28/1879 > from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka > to Amerika > Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 > > Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 > > > Joy > > On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not >> seem >> to know much about him. >> >> Regards, >> Lance >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bo Johansson >> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) >> >> Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >>> >>> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >>> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >>> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >>> that he came to America in 1882. >>> >>> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >>> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >>> >>> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >>> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. >> >> No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he >> emigrated earlier. >> >> Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus >> Jonsson/Johansson/etc. >> >> // Bo Johansson >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Household examination page mentioned in the Emibas Record shows the family as: Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 Svenstorp 5/24 eg Johannes Olafsson, b. 21 13/7 Lekasa h. Johanna Svensdotter, b. 25 4/10 Åsaka son Anders Gustaf, b. 52 30/9 Åsaka, Se nedra 78 son Svarte(?), b. 55 20/9 Åsaka, p 228 78 son August, b. 58 4(?)/2 Åsaka, Elin 81 28/10 #25 son Johan Olaus, b. 61 31/3 Åsaka, Amerika 79 28/3 #5 son Karl Alfred, b. 63, 4/11 Åsaka son Herman b. 70 3/8 Åsaka That’s very close to Johan Olsson and Hanna for the parents. Joy On Jun 28, 2014, at 11:15 PM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > His parents weren't by chance Johan Olsson & Hanna? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Kersteter > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) > > Here is a possibility from Emibas. It shows a Johan Olaus Johannesson > emigrating in 1879, with the same birth date > > > Johan Olaus Johannesson > Ägarson > b. 3/31/1861 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs län (Västergoötland) > Emigrated 3/28/1879 > from Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka > to Amerika > Source: SVAR; Household Examination Roll, Vol Lekåsa AI:9, p 181 > > Emibas migration file ID: Barne-Åsaka R 1879 002 > > > Joy > > On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Lance L. Piatt <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I will try to find more information on him. People around now, do not >> seem >> to know much about him. >> >> Regards, >> Lance >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bo Johansson >> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:25 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] John Olaus JOHNSON (b: 1861) >> >> Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-06-28 06:25: >>> >>> Okay, the second part of the SÖDERBERG saga, is her husband, >>> John Olaus JOHNSON, as he was known in America. I haven’t located >>> an immigration record on him yet. However, the census records state >>> that he came to America in 1882. >>> >>> He was born 31 Mar 1861 in Sweden. He married Hannah SÖDERBERG> >>> in 1884 in Bayfield Co, Wisconsin. >>> >>> According to his death certificate his parents were Johan OLSON and >>> Hanna. Sweden was the only thing stated as place of birth. >> >> No Joh* Olaus born 1860-1862 in Swedish Census 1880, so perhaps he >> emigrated earlier. >> >> Or perhaps Olaus is from Olsson, and his father was Olof or Olaus >> Jonsson/Johansson/etc. >> >> // Bo Johansson >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message