Thanks Bo -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Annika OLOFSDOTTER born 1789-02-16 Tengene, Skaraborgs Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-03 15:47: > > So, his mother is Annika OLOFSDOTTER. Anyway of finding out who > Annika’s spouse was? They can be traced backwards at Skälltorp, to Naum AI:4 (1826-1833) Image 93 / page 86 (AID: v14284.b93.s86, NAD: SE/GLA/13385). - farmhand Johan Gudmundsson, born 1779-05-01 Brönnestad(?), came 1826 from Lekåsa, died 1833. - wife Annika Olofsdotter, born 1789-02-16 Tengene. - 8 children born 1811-1829, among them son Magnus born 1816-03-21(?) Tengene. But I don't see them in the Lekåsa "pastorat" 1826 moving-out list in Lekåsa B:1 (1791-1859) Image 24 / page 41 (AID: v9437.b24.s41, NAD: SE/GLA/13323) // Bo Johansson > > He had come 1840 from Skälltorp, also in Södra Kedum, where he is found > with his widowed mother Annika Olofsdotter born 1789-02-16 Tengene. and > siblings. > > Naum AI:6 (1839-1841) Image 85 / page 77 (AID: v14286.b85.s77, NAD: > SE/GLA/13385). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Efternamn: JONASSON Förnamn: SAMUEL Ålder: 28 Kön: M Född: 1858/1859 Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Huvudman: JONASSON SAMUEL Förnamn: ELMA Ålder: 25 Kön: K Född: 1861/1862 Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Huvudman: JONASSON SAMUEL Förnamn: EMIL Ålder: 3 Kön: M Född: 1883/1884 Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Huvudman: JONASSON SAMUEL Förnamn: NILS Ålder: Kön: M Född: Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: ÅLDER SAKNAS Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Martin Carol Larson skrev 2014-07-03 02:57: > Could some please do a search for the emigration record of Samuel Jonasson (Ving 1858 28/5), Elina Larsdotter (Ving 1861 2/1), Karl Emil (Ving 1883 3/7), and Nils Marik (Brunn 1886 5/6). > > They left from Brunn, Älvsborg, March 12 1887. > > Thanks so much, > > Carol in Kentucky > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Detta epostmeddelande innehåller inget virus eller annan skadlig kod för avast! antivirus är aktivt. http://www.avast.com

Thank you Martin....now it feels like another needle in a haystack...what name did they use in the US? Would they have used "Jonason" or "Johnson" or some other variation of the family name... Just another search coming up. Thanks again, Carol in Kentucky -----Original Message----- From: Martin <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 4:00 am Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] emmigration record for Samuel Jonasson and family Efternamn: JONASSON Förnamn: SAMUEL Ålder: 28 Kön: M Född: 1858/1859 Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Huvudman: JONASSON SAMUEL Förnamn: ELMA Ålder: 25 Kön: K Född: 1861/1862 Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Huvudman: JONASSON SAMUEL Förnamn: EMIL Ålder: 3 Kön: M Född: 1883/1884 Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Huvudman: JONASSON SAMUEL Förnamn: NILS Ålder: Kön: M Född: Församling: BRUNN Län: P Titel/Anm: ÅLDER SAKNAS Utresehamn: GÖTEBORG Utvandrdag: 1887 03 25 Destination: ROCKFORD Medåkande: JA Källkod: 31:290:954 Martin Carol Larson skrev 2014-07-03 02:57: > Could some please do a search for the emigration record of Samuel Jonasson (Ving 1858 28/5), Elina Larsdotter (Ving 1861 2/1), Karl Emil (Ving 1883 3/7), and Nils Marik (Brunn 1886 5/6). > > They left from Brunn, Älvsborg, March 12 1887. > > Thanks so much, > > Carol in Kentucky > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- Detta epostmeddelande innehåller inget virus eller annan skadlig kod för avast! antivirus är aktivt. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-03 06:07: > > So, was Magnus JOHANSSON b: 02 Mar 1816 listed in Södra Kedum parish? --- No, Ryda C:2 (1798-1858) Image 34 / page 59 (AID: v14242.b34.s59, NAD: SE/GLA/13436). > > In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 from Korsmaden > (in Södra Kedum), [...] > Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: > v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). Magnus Johansson born 1816-03-02 Tengene is found with first wife and two children at Korsmafen in Södra Kedum AI:1 (1841-1849) Image 24 / page 20 (AID: v14319.b24.s20, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). Before that at (Korsmafen in Södra Kedum) in Naum AI:6 (1839-1841) Image 93 / page 85 (AID: v14286.b93.s85, NAD: SE/GLA/13385). He had come 1840 from Skälltorp, also in Södra Kedum, where he is found with his widowed mother Annika Olofsdotter born 1789-02-16 tengene. and siblings. Naum AI:6 (1839-1841) Image 85 / page 77 (AID: v14286.b85.s77, NAD: SE/GLA/13385). >> >> Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, Trökörna, Hyringa, >> Malma, and Längnum "pastorat". // Bo Johansson

So, his mother is Annika OLOFSDOTTER. Anyway of finding out who Annika’s spouse was? He had come 1840 from Skälltorp, also in Södra Kedum, where he is found with his widowed mother Annika Olofsdotter born 1789-02-16 Tengene. and siblings. Naum AI:6 (1839-1841) Image 85 / page 77 (AID: v14286.b85.s77, NAD: SE/GLA/13385). Regards, Lance

This is one of my 4th great grandfathers: Ola Modig born 1743 03 13 ( I think I have been on the wrong trail for quite a while!) I thought this was his birth record born to Mans Olsson and Pernilla Christesdotter. Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 63 / page 55 (AID: v99623.b63.s55, NAD: SE/LLA/13182) but then it looks like he dies in his first year here Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 100 / page 95 (AID: v99623.b100.s95, NAD: SE/LLA/13182) His military record is below and I have tracked from enlistment to death. What I can’t see is if there is any indication of what his family name or birth name was. I have his son’s birth record and HFL’s down to my grandmother’s birth so I know it’s the correct Ola, but his parentage is in serious doubt now. Any ideas or did I miss something on one of the General Musters below MODIG Ohla Family name:- Birth date: 17430313 Death date: 18001009 Enlisted: 1772 Discharged: - File number: SH-01-0054-1772 Regiment: Skånska Husarregementet File: Norra Fredskog 1 Company: Livkompaniet Parish: Farstorp Croft Number: SH-01-0054 This is his first entry Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 902 (1775-1775) Image 340 (AID: v376607.b340, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 903 (1779-1779) Image 270 (AID: v376608.b270, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 904 (1783-1783) Image 430 (AID: v376656a.b430, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 905 (1787-1787) Image 340 (AID: v376657a.b340, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 907 (1791-1791) Image 290 (AID: v376659a.b290, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 908 (1794-1794) Image 310 (AID: v376660a.b310, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 909 (1797-1797) Image 30 (AID: v376661a.b30, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) This is his last giving his death Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 910 (1801-1801) Image 310 (AID: v376662.b310, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) His son Sven born 1788 to Ola Modig and Estred Zachrisdotter Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 50 / page 83 (AID: v111347.b50.s83, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) His Marriage to Estred Zachrisdotter in 1774 Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 189 / page 361 (AID: v111347.b189.s361, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) Is there anything on that first Generalmonsterrullor that I missed...I'm just starting to explore these records and they are still mostly "greek" to me! Any direction will be appreciated Rhonda

So, was Magnus JOHANSSON b: 02 Mar 1816 listed in Södra Kedum parish? -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Magnus JOHANSSON b: 1816 Tengene, Skaraborgs Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 07:54: > > Would the 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs marriage include parents? --- No, only that Magnus Johansson was a widower, and Kjerstin Andreasdotter's mother widow Anna Christofersdotter of Lerum(?) Raggård(?) gave consent to the marriage. Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: SE/GLA/13436). In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 from Korsmaden (in Södra Kedum), and Kjerstin Andreasdotter had come 1852 from Mellby parish (or "pastorat"). Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). Kerstin's birth is recorded 8 Aug 1820, parents farmer Andreas Ericsson and wife Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda(?) in Magra parish. Stora Mellby C:5 (1817-1850) Image 105 (AID: v55523.b105, NAD: SE/GLA/13506). They are found at Bjärlanda Uppegård in Magra AI:3 (1820-1828) Image 70 / page 129 (AID: v55459.b70.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357): - Andreas Ericsson, born 1795 Mellby. - wife Anna Christoffersdotter, born 1790 Mellby. - 3 children born 1820-1824 Mellby. - son Lars born 1825-08-30 here. Birthplace Mellby might mean the Stora Mellby "pastorat" (Stora Mellby, Magra, Erska, Genneved, and Lagmansered parishes), for Kerstin born 1820 we know she was born in Magra parish. > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 04:47: >> >> In Search of the parents of Magnus JOHANSSON born 02 Mar >> 1816 in Tengene, Skaraborgs. > > From: Bo Johansson > > Not recorded 1816 in Tengene C:4 (1811-1849) Image 16 / page 21 (AID: > v5752.b16.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13548). > > Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, Trökörna, Hyringa, > Malma, and Längnum "pastorat". ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could some please do a search for the emigration record of Samuel Jonasson (Ving 1858 28/5), Elina Larsdotter (Ving 1861 2/1), Karl Emil (Ving 1883 3/7), and Nils Marik (Brunn 1886 5/6). They left from Brunn, Älvsborg, March 12 1887. Thanks so much, Carol in Kentucky

Evelynn McCain wrote 2014-07-02 17:43: > > I don't see her there either. The last time I find her in AL:14 is on page > 78 before that she was on page 39 where we think the error on the birthdate > happened. She is three times on that page. I rechecked the birth records > for Linneryd in 1800. There is only one Christina born in Dec. and that > date was the 17th so I think the Christina born 24 Dec 1800 has to be the > same as the one on 25 Sep 1800. I think I found her marriage record: > Linneryd C:4 (1813-1844) Image 275 / page 541 (AID: v30520.b275.s541, NAD: > SE/VALA/00224) #8. I can't read the word after pigan or the last word. The > date was 5 April 1823. Maybe the words I can't read are a clue as to where > she was in between. The last word may be the priest who married them? --- The 5th April (1823) were married together bachelor and becoming farm-owner Andreas Jonsson from Bredabeckshult and the maid virtuous ("dygdesamma") Christina Nilsdotter from Virshult by Fr. Wisleih(?) > > The husband is Andreas Jönsson, born 29 Nov 1803. The HFL Linneryd Al:15 > page 232 has his birth date as 22 Sep 1803. --- Wrong reference? He is with his parents at Bredebeckshult Norregård in Linneryd AI:14 (1818-1822) Image 250 / page 232 (AID: v18796.b250.s232, NAD: SE/VALA/00224). And the parents and siblings are then in Linneryd AI:15 (1823-1831) Image 396 / page 387 (AID: v18798.b396.s387, NAD: SE/VALA/00224). > > There is only one Andreas born > in Tingsås in 1803. The birth record is: HFL: Tingsås CI:4a (1770-1847) > Image 144 / page 281 (AID: v30213.b144.s281, NAD: SE/VALA/00374) where is > birth date is 29 Nov 1803. The HFL at birth is Tingsås AI:3 (1800-1809) > Image 242 / page 233 (AID: v19607.b242.s233, NAD: SE/VALA/00374). I hate it > when the birth date changes, so I need to do more checking. But if the > Christina is the right one, then this is her husband. --- You should trace him forwards to be certain, the family move 1805 to Urshult. But the parents are the same, so he should also be the same... > > Also, could you look at the birth record and tell me if it is Golgahult or > Holgahult? Or something else? --- In the birth record it is Göljahult, in the HFL it is Gölgahult (Gölahult in the index). // Bo Johansson

Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 07:54: > > Would the 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs marriage include parents? --- No, only that Magnus Johansson was a widower, and Kjerstin Andreasdotter's mother widow Anna Christofersdotter of Lerum(?) Raggård(?) gave consent to the marriage. Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: SE/GLA/13436). In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 from Korsmaden (in Södra Kedum), and Kjerstin Andreasdotter had come 1852 from Mellby parish (or "pastorat"). Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). Kerstin's birth is recorded 8 Aug 1820, parents farmer Andreas Ericsson and wife Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda(?) in Magra parish. Stora Mellby C:5 (1817-1850) Image 105 (AID: v55523.b105, NAD: SE/GLA/13506). They are found at Bjärlanda Uppegård in Magra AI:3 (1820-1828) Image 70 / page 129 (AID: v55459.b70.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357): - Andreas Ericsson, born 1795 Mellby. - wife Anna Christoffersdotter, born 1790 Mellby. - 3 children born 1820-1824 Mellby. - son Lars born 1825-08-30 here. Birthplace Mellby might mean the Stora Mellby "pastorat" (Stora Mellby, Magra, Erska, Genneved, and Lagmansered parishes), for Kerstin born 1820 we know she was born in Magra parish. > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 04:47: >> >> In Search of the parents of Magnus JOHANSSON born 02 Mar >> 1816 in Tengene, Skaraborgs. > > From: Bo Johansson > > Not recorded 1816 in Tengene C:4 (1811-1849) Image 16 / page 21 (AID: > v5752.b16.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13548). > > Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, Trökörna, Hyringa, > Malma, and Längnum "pastorat".

Thank you Bo! I have sent out a few emails and am hoping to hear back from my new relatives. Found one on Facebook that we share a friend with... my 2nd cousin in Sweden....wonder if they knew they were related....I don't think so! thank you again Rhonda rhonda simpson wrote 2014-06-27 14:48: > > WOW! Well with this wonderful help I have tracked the family to 1925, and > I > believe I have found a living descendant in Lund, 3C2R. I hope he'll > write > back!!! Magnus Otto and his wife had 2 surviving children at this point, > Erik Oskar and Knut Vilhelm. > > Lunds domkyrkoförsamling AIIa:80 (1914-1925) Image 1940 / page 7190 (AID: > v104711.b1940.s7190, NAD: SE/LLA/13254) (thanks for the tip on Control C) --- Address Papegojlyckan 11 But I don't know how to find it in the next volume... > > I haven't been able to find the family after 1925, but still, this is > amazing. --- Swedish Death Index 1901-2009: 19141127-3939 Wittzell, Erik Oskar Domherrev 3, 22231 Lund Dead 11/?/1977. Registered (1976) in Sankt Peters kloster, Lunds kn (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Registered for taxation (1976) in the same parish. Born 11/27/1914 in Lund (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Divorced man (11/23/1972). -------------- This seems to be his family in 1970: 1914-11-27 Wittzell, Erik Oskar Domherrev 3, 22231 Lund Kyrkobokförd i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), distrikt 01, fastighet 57895. Mantalsskriven på samma ort. Född 27 Nov 1914 i Lund (Malmöhus län, Skåne). -------------- 1917-04-22 Wittzell, Kerstin Margareta Bened Domherrev 3, 222 31 Lund Kyrkobokförd i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), distrikt 01, fastighet 57895. Mantalsskriven på samma ort. Född 22 Apr 1917 i Stehag (Malmöhus län, Skåne). -------------- 1947-02-02 Witzell Olsson, Inga Gunhild Domherrev 3, 22231 Lund Kyrkobokförd i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), distrikt 01, fastighet 57895. Mantalsskriven på samma ort. Född 2 Feb 1947 i Everöd (Kristianstads län, Skåne). -------------- 1956-01-08 Wittzell, Kerstin Birgitta Domherrev 3, 22231 Lund Kyrkobokförd i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), distrikt 01, fastighet 57895. Mantalsskriven på samma ort. Född 8 Jan 1956 i Stehag (Malmöhus län, Skåne). -------------- 1963-07-31 Witzell, Anne-Lie Irene Domherrev 3,22231 Lund Kyrkobokförd i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), distrikt 01, fastighet 57895. Mantalsskriven på samma ort. Född 31 Jul 1963 i Lund (Malmöhus län, Skåne). -------------- --- Inga Gunhild died: 19470202-3708 Witzell, Inga Gunhild Florag 15 B, 21221 Malmö Dead 1/1/1993. Registered in Kirseberg, Malmö kn (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Born 2/2/1947 in Everöd (Kristianstads län, Skåne). Divorced woman (10/10/1975). -------------- --- You can search for the living at birthday.se Probably Kerstin Birgitta http://www.birthday.se/sok/?a=Trollebergsv%e4gen+161&z=22763&c=Lund Anne-Lie Irene: http://www.birthday.se/person/d30a72f1-5ea9-8cc1-9184-1ed5f8b6b6e9 --- Kerstin Birgitta with husband and probable son in 1990: 1956-01-08 Svensson, Kerstin Birgitta Kakelv 10, 22230 Lund Mantalsskriven i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Borgmästaren 9. Född 8 Jan 1956 i Stehag (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Gift kvinna (29 Sep 1990). -------------- 1960-02-16 Svensson, Jan Göte Kakelv 10, 22230 Lund Mantalsskriven i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Borgmästaren 9. Född 16 Feb 1960 i Jönköpings Sofia (Jönköpings län, Småland). Gift man (29 Sep 1990). -------------- 1990-06-17 Svensson, David Göte Oscar Kakelv 10, 22230 Lund Mantalsskriven i Sankt Peters kloster (Lunds kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Borgmästaren 9. Född 17 jun 1990 i Sankt Peter (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Pojke under 18 år. -------------- --- Anne-Lie Irene with possible son in 1990: 1963-07-31 Witzell, Anne-Lie Irene Tvåvingev 5, 24021 Löddeköpinge Mantalsskriven i Västra Karaby (Kävlinge kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Furunäs 2:66. Född 31 Jul 1963 i Lund (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Ogift kvinna. -------------- 1989-01-05 Witzell, Christoffer David Lennart Tvåvingev 5, 24021 Löddeköpinge Mantalsskriven i Västra Karaby (Kävlinge kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Furunäs 2:66. Född 5 Jan 1989 i Oxie (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Pojke under 18 år. -------------- --- I don't see Knut Vilhelm or his prpbable wife in the death index, they lived together in Census 1970, 1980, and 1990. This is 1990: 1919-12-16 Wittzell, Knut Vilhelm Drottningg 176 B, 25233 Helsingborg Mantalsskriven i Helsingborgs Maria (Helsingborgs kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Kompassen 4. Född 16 Dec 1919 i Lund (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Gift man (7 Okt 1944). -------------- 1921-10-20 Wittzell, Elly Göta Hellevi Drottningg 176 B, 25233 Helsingborg Mantalsskriven i Helsingborgs Maria (Helsingborgs kn, Malmöhus län, Skåne), fastigheten Kompassen 4. Född 20 Okt 1921 i Holmby (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Gift kvinna (7 Okt 1944). -------------- // Bo Johansson

Hello, I am letting you know that my email address is changing effective immediately, to [email protected] Thank you for making this correction to your address book. Ralph Eckerberg On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Lance Piatt <[email protected]> wrote: > So, since he is was not born Revenue, as earlier > indicated. Can he be found at any of the locations. And > the fact that his grandchildten used the surname of > Soderberg, could that be a clue. > > > On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:33:26 +0200 > Bo Johansson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 07:54: > > > > >> Would the 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs marriage include > >>parents? > > > > --- No, only that Magnus Johansson was a widower, and > >Kjerstin > > Andreasdotter's mother widow Anna Christofersdotter of > >Lerum(?) > > Raggård(?) gave consent to the marriage. > > Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: > >SE/GLA/13436). > > > > In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 > >from Korsmaden > > (in Södra Kedum), and Kjerstin Andreasdotter had come > >1852 from Mellby > > parish (or "pastorat"). > > Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: > > v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). > > > > Kerstin's birth is recorded 8 Aug 1820, parents farmer > >Andreas Ericsson > > and wife Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda(?) in > >Magra parish. > > Stora Mellby C:5 (1817-1850) Image 105 (AID: > >v55523.b105, NAD: > > SE/GLA/13506). > > > > They are found at Bjärlanda Uppegård in Magra AI:3 > >(1820-1828) Image 70 > > / page 129 (AID: v55459.b70.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357): > > > > - Andreas Ericsson, born 1795 Mellby. > > - wife Anna Christoffersdotter, born 1790 Mellby. > > - 3 children born 1820-1824 Mellby. > > - son Lars born 1825-08-30 here. > > > > Birthplace Mellby might mean the Stora Mellby "pastorat" > >(Stora Mellby, > > Magra, Erska, Genneved, and Lagmansered parishes), for > >Kerstin born 1820 > > we know she was born in Magra parish. > > > >> > >> Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 04:47: > >>> > >>> In Search of the parents of Magnus JOHANSSON born 02 Mar > >>> 1816 in Tengene, Skaraborgs. > >> > >> From: Bo Johansson > >> > >> Not recorded 1816 in Tengene C:4 (1811-1849) Image 16 / > >>page 21 (AID: > >> v5752.b16.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13548). > >> > >> Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, > >>Trökörna, Hyringa, > >> Malma, and Längnum "pastorat". > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Sorry, I sent the last from my smart phone. It auto corrected the town of Tengene, to Revenue,and sent the E-mail twice. Funny it didn't auto correct grandchildren. Guess the smart phone is not so smart after-all. So is what I meant to say: So, since he is was not born in Tengene, as earlier indicated. Can he be found at any of the locations. And the fact that his grandchildren used the surname of SÖDERBERG, could that be a clue. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Magnus JOHANSSON b: 1816 Tengene, Skaraborgs Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 07:54: > > Would the 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs marriage include parents? --- No, only that Magnus Johansson was a widower, and Kjerstin Andreasdotter's mother widow Anna Christofersdotter of Lerum(?) Raggård(?) gave consent to the marriage. Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: SE/GLA/13436). In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 from Korsmaden (in Södra Kedum), and Kjerstin Andreasdotter had come 1852 from Mellby parish (or "pastorat"). Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). Kerstin's birth is recorded 8 Aug 1820, parents farmer Andreas Ericsson and wife Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda(?) in Magra parish. Stora Mellby C:5 (1817-1850) Image 105 (AID: v55523.b105, NAD: SE/GLA/13506). They are found at Bjärlanda Uppegård in Magra AI:3 (1820-1828) Image 70 / page 129 (AID: v55459.b70.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357): - Andreas Ericsson, born 1795 Mellby. - wife Anna Christoffersdotter, born 1790 Mellby. - 3 children born 1820-1824 Mellby. - son Lars born 1825-08-30 here. Birthplace Mellby might mean the Stora Mellby "pastorat" (Stora Mellby, Magra, Erska, Genneved, and Lagmansered parishes), for Kerstin born 1820 we know she was born in Magra parish. > > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 04:47: >> >> In Search of the parents of Magnus JOHANSSON born 02 Mar >> 1816 in Tengene, Skaraborgs. > > From: Bo Johansson > > Not recorded 1816 in Tengene C:4 (1811-1849) Image 16 / page 21 (AID: > v5752.b16.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13548). > > Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, Trökörna, Hyringa, > Malma, and Längnum "pastorat". ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thank you, Bo, for helping with the words and translation. I plan to trace Andreas through the HFLs. I really enjoy following them from birth to death, plus than I can be sure everything is right. Evelynn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bo Johansson Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Thank you Bo Evelynn McCain wrote 2014-07-02 17:43: > > I don't see her there either. The last time I find her in AL:14 is on > page > 78 before that she was on page 39 where we think the error on the > birthdate happened. She is three times on that page. I rechecked the birth records > for Linneryd in 1800. There is only one Christina born in Dec. and that > date was the 17th so I think the Christina born 24 Dec 1800 has to be > the same as the one on 25 Sep 1800. I think I found her marriage record: > Linneryd C:4 (1813-1844) Image 275 / page 541 (AID: v30520.b275.s541, NAD: > SE/VALA/00224) #8. I can't read the word after pigan or the last word. The > date was 5 April 1823. Maybe the words I can't read are a clue as to where > she was in between. The last word may be the priest who married them? --- The 5th April (1823) were married together bachelor and becoming farm-owner Andreas Jonsson from Bredabeckshult and the maid virtuous ("dygdesamma") Christina Nilsdotter from Virshult by Fr. Wisleih(?) > > The husband is Andreas Jönsson, born 29 Nov 1803. The HFL Linneryd > Al:15 page 232 has his birth date as 22 Sep 1803. --- Wrong reference? He is with his parents at Bredebeckshult Norregård in Linneryd AI:14 (1818-1822) Image 250 / page 232 (AID: v18796.b250.s232, NAD: SE/VALA/00224). And the parents and siblings are then in Linneryd AI:15 (1823-1831) Image 396 / page 387 (AID: v18798.b396.s387, NAD: SE/VALA/00224). > > There is only one Andreas born > in Tingsås in 1803. The birth record is: HFL: Tingsås CI:4a > (1770-1847) Image 144 / page 281 (AID: v30213.b144.s281, NAD: > SE/VALA/00374) where is birth date is 29 Nov 1803. The HFL at birth > is Tingsås AI:3 (1800-1809) Image 242 / page 233 (AID: > v19607.b242.s233, NAD: SE/VALA/00374). I hate it when the birth date > changes, so I need to do more checking. But if the Christina is the right one, then this is her husband. --- You should trace him forwards to be certain, the family move 1805 to Urshult. But the parents are the same, so he should also be the same... > > Also, could you look at the birth record and tell me if it is > Golgahult or Holgahult? Or something else? --- In the birth record it is Göljahult, in the HFL it is Gölgahult (Gölahult in the index). // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So, since he is was not born Revenue, as earlier indicated. Can he be found at any of the locations. And the fact that his grandchildten used the surname of Soderberg, could that be a clue. On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:33:26 +0200 Bo Johansson <[email protected]> wrote: > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 07:54: > > >> Would the 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs marriage include >>parents? > > --- No, only that Magnus Johansson was a widower, and >Kjerstin > Andreasdotter's mother widow Anna Christofersdotter of >Lerum(?) > Raggård(?) gave consent to the marriage. > Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: >SE/GLA/13436). > > In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 >from Korsmaden > (in Södra Kedum), and Kjerstin Andreasdotter had come >1852 from Mellby > parish (or "pastorat"). > Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: > v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). > > Kerstin's birth is recorded 8 Aug 1820, parents farmer >Andreas Ericsson > and wife Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda(?) in >Magra parish. > Stora Mellby C:5 (1817-1850) Image 105 (AID: >v55523.b105, NAD: > SE/GLA/13506). > > They are found at Bjärlanda Uppegård in Magra AI:3 >(1820-1828) Image 70 > / page 129 (AID: v55459.b70.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357): > > - Andreas Ericsson, born 1795 Mellby. > - wife Anna Christoffersdotter, born 1790 Mellby. > - 3 children born 1820-1824 Mellby. > - son Lars born 1825-08-30 here. > > Birthplace Mellby might mean the Stora Mellby "pastorat" >(Stora Mellby, > Magra, Erska, Genneved, and Lagmansered parishes), for >Kerstin born 1820 > we know she was born in Magra parish. > >> >> Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 04:47: >>> >>> In Search of the parents of Magnus JOHANSSON born 02 Mar >>> 1816 in Tengene, Skaraborgs. >> >> From: Bo Johansson >> >> Not recorded 1816 in Tengene C:4 (1811-1849) Image 16 / >>page 21 (AID: >> v5752.b16.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13548). >> >> Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, >>Trökörna, Hyringa, >> Malma, and Längnum "pastorat". > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

So, since he is was not born Revenue, as earlier indicated. Can he be found at any of the locations. And the fact that his grandchildten used the surname of Soderberg, could that be a clue. On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:33:26 +0200 Bo Johansson <[email protected]> wrote: > Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 07:54: > > >> Would the 23 Oct 1852 Ryda, Skaraborgs marriage include >>parents? > > --- No, only that Magnus Johansson was a widower, and >Kjerstin > Andreasdotter's mother widow Anna Christofersdotter of >Lerum(?) > Raggård(?) gave consent to the marriage. > Ryda E:1 (1850-1862) Image 11 (AID: v14249.b11, NAD: >SE/GLA/13436). > > In the HFL at Lillelund, Magnus Johansson had come 1848 >from Korsmaden > (in Södra Kedum), and Kjerstin Andreasdotter had come >1852 from Mellby > parish (or "pastorat"). > Södra Kedum AI:2 (1850-1858) Image 114 / page 106 (AID: > v14320.b114.s106, NAD: SE/GLA/13534). > > Kerstin's birth is recorded 8 Aug 1820, parents farmer >Andreas Ericsson > and wife Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda(?) in >Magra parish. > Stora Mellby C:5 (1817-1850) Image 105 (AID: >v55523.b105, NAD: > SE/GLA/13506). > > They are found at Bjärlanda Uppegård in Magra AI:3 >(1820-1828) Image 70 > / page 129 (AID: v55459.b70.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357): > > - Andreas Ericsson, born 1795 Mellby. > - wife Anna Christoffersdotter, born 1790 Mellby. > - 3 children born 1820-1824 Mellby. > - son Lars born 1825-08-30 here. > > Birthplace Mellby might mean the Stora Mellby "pastorat" >(Stora Mellby, > Magra, Erska, Genneved, and Lagmansered parishes), for >Kerstin born 1820 > we know she was born in Magra parish. > >> >> Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-02 04:47: >>> >>> In Search of the parents of Magnus JOHANSSON born 02 Mar >>> 1816 in Tengene, Skaraborgs. >> >> From: Bo Johansson >> >> Not recorded 1816 in Tengene C:4 (1811-1849) Image 16 / >>page 21 (AID: >> v5752.b16.s21, NAD: SE/GLA/13548). >> >> Perhaps he was born in another parish of the Tengene, >>Trökörna, Hyringa, >> Malma, and Längnum "pastorat". > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

I don't see her there either. The last time I find her in AL:14 is on page 78 before that she was on page 39 where we think the error on the birthdate happened. She is three times on that page. I rechecked the birth records for Linneryd in 1800. There is only one Christina born in Dec. and that date was the 17th so I think the Christina born 24 Dec 1800 has to be the same as the one on 25 Sep 1800. I think I found her marriage record: Linneryd C:4 (1813-1844) Image 275 / page 541 (AID: v30520.b275.s541, NAD: SE/VALA/00224) #8. I can't read the word after pigan or the last word. The date was 5 April 1823. Maybe the words I can't read are a clue as to where she was in between. The last word may be the priest who married them? The husband is Andreas Jönsson, born 29 Nov 1803. The HFL Linneryd Al:15 page 232 has his birth date as 22 Sep 1803. There is only one Andreas born in Tingsås in 1803. The birth record is: HFL: Tingsås CI:4a (1770-1847) Image 144 / page 281 (AID: v30213.b144.s281, NAD: SE/VALA/00374) where is birth date is 29 Nov 1803. The HFL at birth is Tingsås AI:3 (1800-1809) Image 242 / page 233 (AID: v19607.b242.s233, NAD: SE/VALA/00374). I hate it when the birth date changes, so I need to do more checking. But if the Christina is the right one, then this is her husband. Also, could you look at the birth record and tell me if it is Golgahult or Holgahult? Or something else? I hope this is not too confusing. As always, I appreciate your help. Evelynn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bo Johansson Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Thank you Bo Evelynn McCain wrote 2014-07-02 06:10: > > I had started looking > page-by-page in Al:15 Linneryd for Christina before I got side tracked > with the moving out record to Ljuder. I went back and finally found > Christina on page 379 with her husband and children and then on page 346. I am so happy. > I may not be completely done as this is the Christina with birth 24 > Dec 1800 so I need to follow her and see if it changes back to 25 Sep at some point. --- They came 1827 from Nottrakulla on page 379, but I don't see them there in Linneryd AI:14 (1818-1822) Image 240 / page 223 (AID: v18796.b240.s223, NAD: SE/VALA/00224) // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you thank you...what a great surprise to wake up to this message. So I should not be too critical of my research skills (but they definitely need work) I missed the moving in record because he was listed as born in 1829 but it was corrected on the next HFL. I was able to follow him through 1899 when the HFL's ended. I then read through the death records and I found his death (Johannus/Johannes) 6 May, 1913. Now I can look for the rest of his brothers and sisters. So far I have found only one sibling who went to America. (That was the ancestor in our family.) Thanks again for your wonderful help. Happy Fourth of July, Carol in Kentucky -----Original Message----- From: Pono (Norm) <[email protected]> To: sweden <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 2, 2014 12:24 am Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Fwd: Searching in Södra Ving Here is Johannes (not Johannus) in the incoming and 3 HFLs: Södra Ving B:2 (1852-1870) Bild 32 (AID: v44535.b32, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) Södra Ving AI:7 (1857-1870) Bild 122 / sid 115 (AID: v44529.b122.s115, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) Södra Ving AI:8 (1871-1880) Bild 150 / sid 141 (AID: v44530.b150.s141, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) Södra Ving AI:9 (1871-1880) Bild 51 / sid 507 (AID: v44531.b51.s507, NAD: SE/GLA/13540) Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol Larson Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Fwd: Searching in Södra Ving And the next mystery in poor Johannus's life. I found him in the Toarp HFL AI:11 1859-1867 image 104 page 200. Johannus moves in 1862 back to Ving. I found him in the moving out record and it states Ving. I have read the in moving record for Ving for 1862 (and 1861 and 1863) but he seems to be missing. Did he just disappear? What happens if someone had the moving out paper for one church but does not go there? Now how can I find him? Would he be on a death data base? Where should I look next? I have checked the other members of the family like at the torp where they are but no Johannus Svensson. Thanks for any suggestions and ideas. Carol in Kentucky ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message