Pono (Norm) wrote 2014-07-06 23:48: > > For anyone who wants to try and answer Karsten's questions, here is the link > to Hanna's birth > > Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 214 / sid 419 (AID: v95953.b214.s419, NAD: > SE/LLA/13196) Female birth number 29 Birth date: 14 Mar 1855 Baptised: 18 Mar Name: Hanna Parents: "torpare" Nils Nilsson, wife Lisa/Sissa(?) Hknsdotter(?) Mother's age(?): 22 Mother received in church(?): 29 Apr Address: Farabohl > > And here is the link to the HFL at her birth showing her parents and Ingerd > > Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Bild 267 / sid 260 (AID: v95930.b267.s260, NAD: > SE/LLA/13196) Found at a "torp" under number 120 Farabol: - "torpare" Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 at number 108, came 1853 from "nt"(?). - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 Röeshult, came 1833 from "nt"(?). - d. Ingerd, born 1854-02-05 here, died 1854-03-11. - d, Hanna, born 1855-03-14. They move 1857 to "125", and are found at number 125 Mulatorp in Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Image 321 / page 314 (AID: v95930.b321.s314, NAD: SE/LLA/13196): - "torpare" Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 Mörbohult. - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 Röeshult. - d. Hanna, born 1855-03-14. - s. Sven, born 1857-10-30. - s. Ola, born 1864-06-24. They had come 1857 from number 120, moved 1864 to number 121, and are found at number 121 FAlshult in Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Image 275 / page 268 (AID: v95930.b275.s268, NAD: SE/LLA/13196). Kyrkhult parish was created 1865 from part of Jämshög parish, and they are found at number 46 Falshult in Kyrkhult AI:2 (1865-1875) Image 244 / page 980 (AID: v96311.b244.s980, NAD: SE/LLA/13225): - "torpare" Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 Kyrkhult. - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 Kyrkhult. - d. Hanna, born 1855-03-14 Kyrkhult, moved 1871-04-24 to Germany ("Tyskland"). - s. Sven, born 1857-10-30 Kyrkhult, moved 1874-10-28 to Fjelkinge. - s. Ola, born 1864-06-24 Kyrkhult, died 1874-07-06. - s. Jöns, born 1867-06-04 Kyrkhult, died 1867-06-04. - s. Nils, born 1869-04-30 Kyrkhult. - d. Bengta, born 1871-10-05 Kyrkhult. They move 1874 to page 802, at number 41 Björkefalla. Here Nils is no longer "torpare", but farmer of 1/96 mantal, the daughter Johanna(?) born 1855-03-14 came back 1874-12-12 from Denmark, and the son Sven came 1875 from Fjelkinge. Then as farmer of 719/6144 mantal at Björkefall in Kyrkhult AI:4 (1886-1896) Image 53 / page 49 (AID: v96313.b53.s49, NAD: SE/LLA/13225): - farmer Nils Nilsson, born 1829-11-13 here. - wife Sissa Håkansdotter, born 1832-06-27 here. - s. Nils, born 1869-04-30 here. - d. Bengta, born 1871-10-05 here. Hanna/Johanna and Sven are not recorded with them here, but had no moving-out information in the previous HFL volume. // Bo Johansson
Here's some more links. Sissa's birth record with her parents Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 30 / sid 51 (AID: v95953.b30.s51, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) Nils and Sissa marriage Jämshög EI:2 (1852-1873) Bild 15 / sid 11 (AID: v95961.b15.s11, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) HFL with Nils in 1851 Jämshög AI:9 (1840-1852) Bild 215 / sid 211 (AID: v95926.b215.s211, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) My first response: For anyone who wants to try and answer Karsten's questions, here is the link to Hanna's birth Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 214 / sid 419 (AID: v95953.b214.s419, NAD:SE/LLA/13196) And here is the link to the HFL at her birth showing her parents and Ingerd Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Bild 267 / sid 260 (AID: v95930.b267.s260, NAD:SE/LLA/13196) Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karsten Kuske Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Hej, Hello and searching for ancestors in Blekinge Hej and Hello, my name is Karsten (Kuske), I´m from Germany and I try to find my ancestors in Sweden. What do I know: My 3-greatgrandmother´s name was Hanna NILSSON * 14. March 1855 in Olofstöms kommun (maybe in Farabol, maybe in Jämshög) Emigrated to Germany oo 10. April 1877 in Curau, Schleswig-Holstein to Johann Christian Cristoph Dahlmann from Schleswig-Holstein (today the district of Curau is part of the parish of Stockelsdorf in the county of Ostholstein, state of Schleswig-Holstein, in the 19th century (from 1866 on) it was part of the principality of Lübeck) + 10. January 1934 in Bad Schwartau, Schleswig-Holstein Her parents are Nils NILSSON Sissa HÅKANSDOTTER (a with o above). Evidence/Sources already known: Birth: Proof of Ancestry from my Grandfather; Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/7 (1849-1867)); Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/5 (1828-1857)); corresponding data from DSSS; >From these records it can be read that the family lived in Farabol (property-no. 120) and that Hanna was baptized in Jämshögs kyrka (I know that Farabol moved to Kyrkhults försammling somewhen in the 1860´s). I do have some evidence about the date she emigrated to Germany: >From the Migrationsregistret: Her person-ID is I11329. 24. April 1871 from Falsehult, she´s mentioned as torparedotter (which corresponds with the baptismal entry: Nils is a torpare). Returning in 1874. Another entry states: Person-ID I11330, moving out on 3. April 1876 (again to Germany), as bonddotter from Björkefall, and no return is mentioned. Both entries states that she went alone. But: In both sources her name is Johanna NilsDOTTER, but the birthdate and birthplace is the same as from my Hanna - Jämshög. I have found NO entry for a Johanna Nilsdotter born 14. March 1855 in Jämshögs försammling >From the In-och Utflyttnings-Längd för Kyrkhult, Svenska Church >Records Kyrkhult/Blekinge 1865-1887 I have the information that a maid (piga) Hanna Nilsdotter moved out to Schleswig on 26. August 1867. Another puzzling item is: >From Jämshögs and Kyrkhults Church Books I have evidence, that she had >some siblings. Name of the parents fit, also some places where the parents/family lived at the time of birth of the siblings: In chronological order: 1854, 1855 in Farabol, 1864 in Mulantorp, 1867, 1871 in Falshult. The father´s occupation changes between torpare and bonde. What strikes me is that the age of the mover jumps wildly around given, that I can read the entries from the church books correctly Her siblings names are/could be (also in chronological order): Ingerd (older than Hanna), Ola, Jöns (who died 1/2 day after his birth), Bengta. So, now I do have lots of questions and I really need some help, as my Swedish-skills are far below of what I would need to find my way on my own through archives, websites etc. In the documents, where her family name is stated (these are mostly German), it´s NilsSON. The only Swedish document I found (the Migrationsregistret and the Flyttnings-Längd) says NilsDOTTER. I know a bit about the system of Swedish (family)names (the patronymic system), but it changed somewhen when? How reliably are the data ref. to the age of the mother given in the parish registers for the children? Is the person-ID unique or could it be that it changed? And lots more So, in short and overall: Is there anyone who is familiar with ancestry research in Blekinge (and for further in Kronoberg and Skane) and able to help me? Esp. how to proceed from Hanna, continuing with her parents (how to find s.th. about Nils and Sissa, only knowing the names?). Or to give me some help finding my way through Swedish websites (thank God many of them offer English information ) or a direct contact? Any help is welcome. Thanks a lot and tack så mycket fran Tyskland, Karsten ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hej and Hello, my name is Karsten (Kuske), I´m from Germany and I try to find my ancestors in Sweden. What do I know: My 3-greatgrandmother´s name was Hanna NILSSON * 14. March 1855 in Olofstöms kommun (maybe in Farabol, maybe in Jämshög) Emigrated to Germany oo 10. April 1877 in Curau, Schleswig-Holstein to Johann Christian Cristoph Dahlmann from Schleswig-Holstein (today the district of Curau is part of the parish of Stockelsdorf in the county of Ostholstein, state of Schleswig-Holstein, in the 19th century (from 1866 on) it was part of the principality of Lübeck) + 10. January 1934 in Bad Schwartau, Schleswig-Holstein Her parents are Nils NILSSON Sissa HÅKANSDOTTER (a with o above). Evidence/Sources already known: Birth: Proof of Ancestry from my Grandfather; Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/7 (1849-1867)); Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/5 (1828-1857)); corresponding data from DSSS; >From these records it can be read that the family lived in Farabol (property-no. 120) and that Hanna was baptized in Jämshögs kyrka (I know that Farabol moved to Kyrkhults försammling somewhen in the 1860´s). I do have some evidence about the date she emigrated to Germany: >From the Migrationsregistret: Her person-ID is I11329. 24. April 1871 from Falsehult, she´s mentioned as torparedotter (which corresponds with the baptismal entry: Nils is a torpare). Returning in 1874. Another entry states: Person-ID I11330, moving out on 3. April 1876 (again to Germany), as bonddotter from Björkefall, and no return is mentioned. Both entries states that she went alone. But: In both sources her name is Johanna NilsDOTTER, but the birthdate and birthplace is the same as from my Hanna - Jämshög. I have found NO entry for a Johanna Nilsdotter born 14. March 1855 in Jämshögs försammling >From the In-och Utflyttnings-Längd för Kyrkhult, Svenska Church Records Kyrkhult/Blekinge 1865-1887 I have the information that a maid (piga) Hanna Nilsdotter moved out to Schleswig on 26. August 1867. Another puzzling item is: >From Jämshögs and Kyrkhults Church Books I have evidence, that she had some siblings. Name of the parents fit, also some places where the parents/family lived at the time of birth of the siblings: In chronological order: 1854, 1855 in Farabol, 1864 in Mulantorp, 1867, 1871 in Falshult. The father´s occupation changes between torpare and bonde. What strikes me is that the age of the mover jumps wildly around given, that I can read the entries from the church books correctly Her siblings names are/could be (also in chronological order): Ingerd (older than Hanna), Ola, Jöns (who died 1/2 day after his birth), Bengta. So, now I do have lots of questions and I really need some help, as my Swedish-skills are far below of what I would need to find my way on my own through archives, websites etc. In the documents, where her family name is stated (these are mostly German), it´s NilsSON. The only Swedish document I found (the Migrationsregistret and the Flyttnings-Längd) says NilsDOTTER. I know a bit about the system of Swedish (family)names (the patronymic system), but it changed somewhen when? How reliably are the data ref. to the age of the mother given in the parish registers for the children? Is the person-ID unique or could it be that it changed? And lots more So, in short and overall: Is there anyone who is familiar with ancestry research in Blekinge (and for further in Kronoberg and Skane) and able to help me? Esp. how to proceed from Hanna, continuing with her parents (how to find s.th. about Nils and Sissa, only knowing the names?). Or to give me some help finding my way through Swedish websites (thank God many of them offer English information ) or a direct contact? Any help is welcome. Thanks a lot and tack så mycket fran Tyskland, Karsten
For anyone who wants to try and answer Karsten's questions, here is the link to Hanna's birth Jämshög CI:5 (1828-1857) Bild 214 / sid 419 (AID: v95953.b214.s419, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) And here is the link to the HFL at her birth showing her parents and Ingerd Jämshög AI:13 (1853-1865) Bild 267 / sid 260 (AID: v95930.b267.s260, NAD: SE/LLA/13196) Aloha, Pono Norman A. Sandin POB 1602 Kihei, HI 96753 http://www.sandinfamily.com [pau] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Karsten Kuske Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 1:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SWEDEN] Hej, Hello and searching for ancestors in Blekinge Hej and Hello, my name is Karsten (Kuske), I´m from Germany and I try to find my ancestors in Sweden. What do I know: My 3-greatgrandmother´s name was Hanna NILSSON * 14. March 1855 in Olofstöms kommun (maybe in Farabol, maybe in Jämshög) Emigrated to Germany oo 10. April 1877 in Curau, Schleswig-Holstein to Johann Christian Cristoph Dahlmann from Schleswig-Holstein (today the district of Curau is part of the parish of Stockelsdorf in the county of Ostholstein, state of Schleswig-Holstein, in the 19th century (from 1866 on) it was part of the principality of Lübeck) + 10. January 1934 in Bad Schwartau, Schleswig-Holstein Her parents are Nils NILSSON Sissa HÅKANSDOTTER (a with o above). Evidence/Sources already known: Birth: Proof of Ancestry from my Grandfather; Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/7 (1849-1867)); Jämshögs Kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och Dopböcker, Huvudserien (found at Svenska Riksarkivet, SE/LLA/13196/C I/5 (1828-1857)); corresponding data from DSSS; >From these records it can be read that the family lived in Farabol (property-no. 120) and that Hanna was baptized in Jämshögs kyrka (I know that Farabol moved to Kyrkhults försammling somewhen in the 1860´s). I do have some evidence about the date she emigrated to Germany: >From the Migrationsregistret: Her person-ID is I11329. 24. April 1871 from Falsehult, she´s mentioned as torparedotter (which corresponds with the baptismal entry: Nils is a torpare). Returning in 1874. Another entry states: Person-ID I11330, moving out on 3. April 1876 (again to Germany), as bonddotter from Björkefall, and no return is mentioned. Both entries states that she went alone. But: In both sources her name is Johanna NilsDOTTER, but the birthdate and birthplace is the same as from my Hanna - Jämshög. I have found NO entry for a Johanna Nilsdotter born 14. March 1855 in Jämshögs försammling >From the In-och Utflyttnings-Längd för Kyrkhult, Svenska Church >Records Kyrkhult/Blekinge 1865-1887 I have the information that a maid (piga) Hanna Nilsdotter moved out to Schleswig on 26. August 1867. Another puzzling item is: >From Jämshögs and Kyrkhults Church Books I have evidence, that she had >some siblings. Name of the parents fit, also some places where the parents/family lived at the time of birth of the siblings: In chronological order: 1854, 1855 in Farabol, 1864 in Mulantorp, 1867, 1871 in Falshult. The father´s occupation changes between torpare and bonde. What strikes me is that the age of the mover jumps wildly around given, that I can read the entries from the church books correctly Her siblings names are/could be (also in chronological order): Ingerd (older than Hanna), Ola, Jöns (who died 1/2 day after his birth), Bengta. So, now I do have lots of questions and I really need some help, as my Swedish-skills are far below of what I would need to find my way on my own through archives, websites etc. In the documents, where her family name is stated (these are mostly German), it´s NilsSON. The only Swedish document I found (the Migrationsregistret and the Flyttnings-Längd) says NilsDOTTER. I know a bit about the system of Swedish (family)names (the patronymic system), but it changed somewhen when? How reliably are the data ref. to the age of the mother given in the parish registers for the children? Is the person-ID unique or could it be that it changed? And lots more So, in short and overall: Is there anyone who is familiar with ancestry research in Blekinge (and for further in Kronoberg and Skane) and able to help me? Esp. how to proceed from Hanna, continuing with her parents (how to find s.th. about Nils and Sissa, only knowing the names?). Or to give me some help finding my way through Swedish websites (thank God many of them offer English information ) or a direct contact? Any help is welcome. Thanks a lot and tack så mycket fran Tyskland, Karsten ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Rhonda-- Anders Persson and Jon Nilsson are värderingsmen. They evaluated the estate. Elna's husband is häradsmuraren (district bricklayer or mason) Ringström. Jim Polson Vancouver Bonus!!! there are a few people > mentioned at the bottom of the intro paragraph that I think may be > grandchildren but not sure, Anders Pehrson and Jons Nilsson. and I think > Elna's husband is Bing Strom? > > Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:32 (1823-1824) Image 420 / page 12 (AID: > v157606.b420.s12, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) >
Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-04 17:16: > > Any indication when Sven OLOFSSON an Anna ANDERSDOTTER passed away? > > Pono found them at Lilla Svenstorp, in Barne-Åsaka AI:3 (1825-1832) Bild > 24 / sid 40 (AID: v9754.b24.s40, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): > > - Svemn Olofsson, born 1796-01-02 Lekåsa. > - wife Anna Andersdotter, born 1802-07-17 "ibm" (the same place). > - 2 children born 1825 and 1828 "ibm". Later found in Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 29 / page 50 (AID: v9756.b29.s50, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). They moved 1746 to Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 26 / page 44 (AID: v9756.b26.s44, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Then in Barne-Åsaka AI:5 (1847-1853) Image 37 / page 67 (AID: v9757.b37.s67, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Then in the Barne-Åsaka section in Lekåsa AI:6 (1853-1860) Image 100 / page 42 (AID: v9741.b100.s42, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). Then in Barne-Åsaka AI:6 (1860-1865) Image 49 / page 89 (AID: v9761.b49.s89, NAD: SE/GLA/13018) Here Sven Olofsson dies 1863-02-17, and his wife becomes a retired widow ("undantag") supported by the farm. Then in the Barne-Åsaka section in Lekåsa AI:8 (1865-1870) Image 172 / page 165 (AID: v9744.b172.s165, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). The widow Annna Andersdotter born 1802-07-17 moves to page 166 still at Stora Svenstorp, to the farm of her son-in-law Johannes Olofsson and her daughter Johanna Svensdotter, born 1825-10-04 at Lilla Svenstorp. Then in the Barne-Åsaka section in Lekåsa AI:9 (1870-1880) Image 187 / page 181 (AID: v9745.b187.s181, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). Here Anna Andersdotter dies 1880-02-08. // Bo Johansson
Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-05 22:13: > > In search of the marriage between Andreas ERICSSON of > Stor Mellby and Anna CHRISTOFFERSDOTTER of Magra. > They would have married before 1820. There is a marriage 29 Dec 1819 in Magra parish, bachelor Andreas Ericksson and maid Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda Neregård. Stora Mellby E:1 (1818-1872) Image 8 (AID: v55526.b8, NAD: SE/GLA/13506). He is found with his parents Bjärlande Nedergården in Magra AI:2 (1815-1820) Image 55 / page 105 (AID: v55458.b55.s105, NAD: SE/GLA/13357). - tenant farmer Erik Larsson, born 1760. - wife Margreta Persdotter, born 1777. - son Andreas, born 1795, moved 1819 to Uppegården. - son Petter, born 1811. He is then found with wife Anna and her parents at Bjärlanda Uppegården in Magra AI:2 (1815-1820) Image 61 / page 129 (AID: v55458.b61.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357). - retired Christoffer Danielsson, born 1766. - wife Annika Andersdotter, born 1766. - tenant farmer Andreas Eriksson, born 1795, came from Nedergården. - wife Anna christofferdotter, born 1790. - d. Kjerstin, born 1802-08-09. - Anna's siblings born 1792-1808. // Bo Johansson
In Search of Anders CARLSSON born 1741 of Vara, Skaraborgs, Västra Götaland and wife Brita JONSDOTTER also born about 1741 {location unknown}. They would have married before 1774, maybe in Lekåsa. Regards, Lance
Dear Bo, Thanks again. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 12:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-04 17:16: > > Any indication when Sven OLOFSSON an Anna ANDERSDOTTER passed away? > > Pono found them at Lilla Svenstorp, in Barne-Åsaka AI:3 (1825-1832) Bild > 24 / sid 40 (AID: v9754.b24.s40, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): > > - Svemn Olofsson, born 1796-01-02 Lekåsa. > - wife Anna Andersdotter, born 1802-07-17 "ibm" (the same place). > - 2 children born 1825 and 1828 "ibm". Later found in Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 29 / page 50 (AID: v9756.b29.s50, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). They moved 1746 to Stora Svenstorp, Barne-Åsaka AI:4 (1839-1847) Image 26 / page 44 (AID: v9756.b26.s44, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Then in Barne-Åsaka AI:5 (1847-1853) Image 37 / page 67 (AID: v9757.b37.s67, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). Then in the Barne-Åsaka section in Lekåsa AI:6 (1853-1860) Image 100 / page 42 (AID: v9741.b100.s42, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). Then in Barne-Åsaka AI:6 (1860-1865) Image 49 / page 89 (AID: v9761.b49.s89, NAD: SE/GLA/13018) Here Sven Olofsson dies 1863-02-17, and his wife becomes a retired widow ("undantag") supported by the farm. Then in the Barne-Åsaka section in Lekåsa AI:8 (1865-1870) Image 172 / page 165 (AID: v9744.b172.s165, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). The widow Annna Andersdotter born 1802-07-17 moves to page 166 still at Stora Svenstorp, to the farm of her son-in-law Johannes Olofsson and her daughter Johanna Svensdotter, born 1825-10-04 at Lilla Svenstorp. Then in the Barne-Åsaka section in Lekåsa AI:9 (1870-1880) Image 187 / page 181 (AID: v9745.b187.s181, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). Here Anna Andersdotter dies 1880-02-08. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Bo, Thanks once again. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 11:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Andreas ERICSSON of Stor Mellby, Älvsborg, Västergötland Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-05 22:13: > > In search of the marriage between Andreas ERICSSON of > Stor Mellby and Anna CHRISTOFFERSDOTTER of Magra. > They would have married before 1820. There is a marriage 29 Dec 1819 in Magra parish, bachelor Andreas Ericksson and maid Anna Christoffersdotter of Bjerlanda Neregård. Stora Mellby E:1 (1818-1872) Image 8 (AID: v55526.b8, NAD: SE/GLA/13506). He is found with his parents Bjärlande Nedergården in Magra AI:2 (1815-1820) Image 55 / page 105 (AID: v55458.b55.s105, NAD: SE/GLA/13357). - tenant farmer Erik Larsson, born 1760. - wife Margreta Persdotter, born 1777. - son Andreas, born 1795, moved 1819 to Uppegården. - son Petter, born 1811. He is then found with wife Anna and her parents at Bjärlanda Uppegården in Magra AI:2 (1815-1820) Image 61 / page 129 (AID: v55458.b61.s129, NAD: SE/GLA/13357). - retired Christoffer Danielsson, born 1766. - wife Annika Andersdotter, born 1766. - tenant farmer Andreas Eriksson, born 1795, came from Nedergården. - wife Anna christofferdotter, born 1790. - d. Kjerstin, born 1802-08-09. - Anna's siblings born 1792-1808. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Right, I goofed, Pehr is first born. Have contacted Centrala Soldatregistret so will see where that goes. Yes Mans Olsson's son Ola died so he isn't my ancestor. I keep forgetting that part...quite important to get that through my thick skull! As a bonus, I found Estred Zackrisdotter's estate inventory and the penmanship is lovely. I can read it, not necessarily understand it but it does give info on her daughter's marriages. Bonus!!! there are a few people mentioned at the bottom of the intro paragraph that I think may be grandchildren but not sure, Anders Pehrson and Jons Nilsson. and I think Elna's husband is Bing Strom? Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:32 (1823-1824) Image 420 / page 12 (AID: v157606.b420.s12, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) As for find the possible "Per" father to Ola, I guess I may never know. Albeit said, 5 new generations on that line is pretty good considering when I started I didn't know my grandmother's mother's name. Rhonda Bo answered Rhonda rhonda simpson wrote 2014-07-05 15:12: > > Now I'm confused again. Would the son Per (Pehr) have gotten the > Lundqvist > name when he became a reservist? --- Probably... > > I have checked all the Mantalslängd > records for Per Modig from Ola's death up to the creation of the HFL's. > Estred lived with him till her death, and have found his line of > descendants. Also, if I ordered Ola Modig's record through the Centrala > Soldatregistret how likely is it that there will be more info than what > is > in the database or General Roll Musters? --- I know almost nothing about their records... > > They have his birthdate as the one > I have which just makes this all the more confusing. --- But they could have an error... > > Looking for the Death of this first Pehr born in 1775 Norra Rörum CI:2 > (1774-1823) Image 228 / page 453 (AID: v111347.b228.s453, NAD: SE/L --- cavalry soldier Ola Modig's little son Per in Nötorp's cavalry soldier cottage, on his 3rd year, died the 4th July (1778) > > I found another son Zahris born Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 21 / > page > 25 (AID: v111347.b21.s25, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- OK, Zahris born 18 Jan 1778, baptised 3rd Sunday after Epiphania (25 Jan). Presumably named after the mother's father. Notice the entry ends with a mark and reference to the next page, where I think there is a report (entered later) of the emergency baptism of Zachris, notice it starts with a mark and a reference to the other page. > > Died Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 227 / page 451 (AID: > v111347.b227.s451, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- 4th Sunday after Epiphania (1 Feb 1778) cavalry soldier Ola Modig's little son Zahris died 7 days old. (Or buried 7 days after baptism?) He had received emergency baptism. > > (so that changes the first born son > after the father's father, I went back to 1771 3years before Ola and > Estred's marriage to see if there were others...just to be sure) --- The first one is still Per born 21 Nov 1775, isn't he? > > and then there is another one here Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 22 > / > page 27 (AID: v111347.b22.s27, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- Probably a report (entered later) of the emergency baptism of Zachris, notice it starts with a mark and a reference to the other page. > > I also decided to check the bouppteckning after Ola Modigs death. I found > his name but I'm not sure if it's his (?) the top of the page is in pretty > bad shape and I've never dealt with these records before. > Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 390 (AID: v157587.b390, NAD: > SE/LLA/10014) --- I don't think this is the actual estate inventory. The text at the very top seems to mention the previous estate inventory, and is signed by the widow Ester Zakariasdotter. Then the text clearly states this is a record of a public auction, held because of the previous estate inventory, of the estate after the deceased cavalry soldier Ola Modig in Nötarp. The right column records the buyers, notice that "Enkan" (the widow) and "Sonen Per" (the son Per) are among the buyers. Ola Modig's estate inventory probably starts at Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 370 / page 9 (AID: v157587.b370.s9, NAD: SE/LLA/10014). At least that estate inventory is signed by the widow Ester Zakariasdotter. Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 390 (AID: v157587.b390, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) > > Just to add some confusion or speculation to all of this, if Mans Olsson > is > the correct father of Ola Modig, then I have a confirmed DNA match with a > common ancestor 6th great grandparent, but it is at the 9th cousin level > (although predicted 2nd to 4th) again depending on having Mans Olsson > parents correct being Ola Tuvesson or Oluf Tullesson but we'll hold off > on > that! Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 33 / page 25 (AID: v99623.b33.s25, NAD: > SE/LLA/13182) --- Didn't Måns Olsson's son Ola die? And I still think there is a good probability that your Ola's father was named Per. // Bo Johansson
In search of the marriage between Andreas ERICSSON of Stor Mellby and Anna CHRISTOFFERSDOTTER of Magra. They would have married before 1820. Regards, Lance
Now I'm confused again. Would the son Per (Pehr) have gotten the Lundqvist name when he became a reservist? I have checked all the Mantalslängd records for Per Modig from Ola's death up to the creation of the HFL's. Estred lived with him till her death, and have found his line of descendants. Also, if I ordered Ola Modig's record through the Centrala Soldatregistret how likely is it that there will be more info than what is in the database or General Roll Musters? They have his birthdate as the one I have which just makes this all the more confusing. Looking for the Death of this first Pehr born in 1775 Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 228 / page 453 (AID: v111347.b228.s453, NAD: SE/L I found another son Zahris born Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 21 / page 25 (AID: v111347.b21.s25, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) Died Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 227 / page 451 (AID: v111347.b227.s451, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) (so that changes the first born son after the father's father, I went back to 1771 3years before Ola and Estred's marriage to see if there were others...just to be sure) and then there is another one here Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 22 / page 27 (AID: v111347.b22.s27, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) I also decided to check the bouppteckning after Ola Modigs death. I found his name but I'm not sure if it's his (?) the top of the page is in pretty bad shape and I've never dealt with these records before. Frosta häradsrätt FIIa:18 (1801-1802) Image 390 (AID: v157587.b390, NAD: SE/LLA/10014) Just to add some confusion or speculation to all of this, if Mans Olsson is the correct father of Ola Modig, then I have a confirmed DNA match with a common ancestor 6th great grandparent, but it is at the 9th cousin level (although predicted 2nd to 4th) again depending on having Mans Olsson parents correct being Ola Tuvesson or Oluf Tullesson but we'll hold off on that! Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 33 / page 25 (AID: v99623.b33.s25, NAD: SE/LLA/13182) Rhonda Bo and rhonda simpson wrote 2014-07-04 20:42: > > I took the March 13 1743 date off the birth record that I had found quite > a > while back. I only just noticed the death record. The birth date is also > consistent with his record on Centrala Soldatregistret > > http://www.ep.liu.se/databases/soldatregister/dbrecord.en.aspx?id=856840 > > Then on a whim I searched his regiment and file Norra Fredskog 1, and > found > what I think is the same person different name but same File number except > for the year. Ohla Utter but with no birth data. The earlier > Generalmönsterrullor for 1770 is showing as Vacant so 75 is the first one > for him. > > > UTTER Ohla > [...] > Discharged: 1772 > File number: SH-01-0054-1771 > [...] --- No, I think Ola Utter is a different man, the text in the 1775 muster roll says: Christian Arvid Bernard Kåse accepted the 11 January 1771, advanced to Corporal in Västgöta cavalry regiment the 15th July the same year, in his place was obtained the 12th following September Ohla Utter who resigned and in his place showed(?) the 1st December 1772 Ohla Modig - of Skåne. > > Also, as no family name is mentioned, is it possible that Modig was his > father’s name and it carried through? This would eliminate Mans Olsson as > a > father (maybe). There is also “some” who “believe” that Hjellaröd rather > than Ravnahalla is where he was born. I haven’t found anything there yet. --- Notice that it seems the regiment didn't record "family names" (actually patronymic surnames, or previous surname) for any soldiers, at least none in the "other soldiers" list for soldier number 54 of 1st Company: http://www.ep.liu.se/databases/soldatregister/dbrecord.en.aspx?id=810206 It is of course possible that Ola already had the name Modig when recruited, this regiment didn't seem to reuse a soldier name for this position, except in the case of reserve soldier Per Lundqvist, who replaced his father Ola Modig as solder number 54 in 1801, and got the name Modig. His birth is recorded as Pehr born 22 Dec 1778, parents cavalry soldier Ola Modig in Nötarp and wife Estrid(?) Zackrisdotter. Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 25 / page 33 (AID: v111347.b25.s33, NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- Notice that Hallaröd was in the Norra Rörum and Hallaröd "pastorat", i checked the births 1742-1746. There is an Olof born 10 Dec 1743, parents Jöns Pärsson and Hanna Andersdotter of Esparöd. Hallaröd CI:2 (1717-1777) Image 50 / page 85 (AID: v109657.b50.s85, NAD: SE/LLA/13136). And another Olof born 14 Apr 1744, parents Matthis Pärsson and Arina(?) Pärsdotter of Hallaröds Byy. Hallaröd CI:2 (1717-1777) Image 51 / page 87 (AID: v109657.b51.s87, NAD: SE/LLA/13136). And Olof born 8 dec 1745, parents Pär Månson and Sissela Nilsdotter. Hallaröd CI:2 (1717-1777) Image 53 / page 91 (AID: v109657.b53.s91, NAD: SE/LLA/13136). But your Ola could have been from any parish... One clue could be that the first son born 21 Nov 1775 seems to be named Per(??), it was common (but not universal!) to name the first son after the father's father. Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 14 / page 11 (AID: v111347.b14.s11, NAD: SE/LLA/13279). Or perhaps the name is Thol, or Boe? Since the son born 1778 was named Per, this one probably died before then if his name was Per. > > As for his quick advance in years, his death in 1800 shows he was 57. > Norra-Rörum-CI-2-1774-1823-Image-248-page-493 --- Yes that fits better with his age in the earlier muster rolls. // Bo Johansson > > Bo and rhonda simpson wrote 2014-07-03 06:35: >> >> This is one of my 4th great grandfathers: Ola Modig [...] >> >> MODIG Ohla >> >> Family name:- >> Birth date: 17430313 >> Death date: 18001009 >> Enlisted: 1772 >> Discharged: - >> >> File number: SH-01-0054-1772 >> >> Regiment: Skånska Husarregementet >> File: Norra Fredskog 1 >> Company: Livkompaniet >> Parish: Farstorp >> Croft Number: SH-01-0054 >> >> This is his first entry >> >> Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 902 (1775-1775) Image 340 >> (AID: v376607.b340, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) >> >> [...] >> >> This is his last giving his death >> >> Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 910 (1801-1801) Image 310 >> (AID: v376662.b310, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) >> >> His son Sven born 1788 to Ola Modig and Estred Zachrisdotter >> Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 50 / page 83 (AID: v111347.b50.s83, >> NAD: SE/LLA/13279) > > --- Cavalry soldier Ola Modig in Nötorp(?). > >> >> His Marriage to Estred Zachrisdotter in 1774 >> Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 189 / page 361 (AID: >> v111347.b189.s361, >> NAD: SE/LLA/13279) > > --- No more info.
Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-04 10:43: > > In search of the parents of Anna ANDERSDOTTER born > 17 Jun 1802 Lekåsa, Skaraborg? Lekåsa C:4 (1789-1831) Image 34 / page 59 (AID: v9423.b34.s59, NAD: SE/GLA/13323) There were two Anna Andersdotter recorded in the 1802 births in Lekåsa "pastorat": 1. Anna born 17 July 1802 in Åsaka parish, parents Andreas Larsson and Greta Larsdotter of Lilla Svenstorp. 2. Anna born 2 Nov 1802 in Fåglum parish, parents Andreas Andersson and Lena Larsdotter of Bergsgården. Number 1 looks much more likely, the family is found at Lilla Svenstorp in Barne-Åsaka AI:1 (1808-1814) Image 15 / page 47 (AID: v9752.b15.s47, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): - Andreas Larsson, born 1777-02(?)-03. - wife Greta Larsdotter, born 17 June, year not stated. - d. Anna, born 1802-07-17. - two children born 1807 and 1811. // Bo Johansson
Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-04 10:31: > > Is Stor Mellby in Älvsborg or Skaraborgs? Stora Mellby is in Älvsborg county County: Älvsborgs län Province: Västergötland (There is also a Mellby parish in Skaraborg county) You can find useful information at ArkivDigital's web-site without paying for a subscription: http://www.arkivdigital.net/volume // Bo Johansson
I took the March 13 1743 date off the birth record that I had found quite a while back. I only just noticed the death record. The birth date is also consistent with his record on Centrala Soldatregistret http://www.ep.liu.se/databases/soldatregister/dbrecord.en.aspx?id=856840 Then on a whim I searched his regiment and file Norra Fredskog 1, and found what I think is the same person different name but same File number except for the year. Ohla Utter but with no birth data. The earlier Generalmönsterrullor for 1770 is showing as Vacant so 75 is the first one for him. UTTER Ohla Family name: - Birth date: - Death date: - Enlisted: 1771 Discharged: 1772 File number: SH-01-0054-1771 Regiment: Skånska Husarregementet File: Norra Fredskog 1 Company: Livkompaniet Parish: Farstorp Croft Number: SH-01-0054 Also, as no family name is mentioned, is it possible that Modig was his father’s name and it carried through? This would eliminate Mans Olsson as a father (maybe). There is also “some” who “believe” that Hjellaröd rather than Ravnahalla is where he was born. I haven’t found anything there yet. As for his quick advance in years, his death in 1800 shows he was 57. Norra-Rörum-CI-2-1774-1823-Image-248-page-493 Rhonda Bo and rhonda simpson wrote 2014-07-03 06:35: > > This is one of my 4th great grandfathers: Ola Modig born 1743 03 13 > ( I think I have been on the wrong trail for quite a while!) --- Do you have any independent evidence for this birth-date? > > I thought this was his birth record born to Mans Olsson and Pernilla > Christesdotter. > > Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 63 / page 55 (AID: v99623.b63.s55, NAD: > SE/LLA/13182) --- Laetare Sunday (13 Mar 1743) was baptised Måns Ohlsson's son-child of Rafnefalla(?), named Ola, mother Pernilla Christesdotter > > but then it looks like he dies in his first year here > Hörja CI:1 (1690-1775) Image 100 / page 95 (AID: v99623.b100.s95, NAD: > SE/LLA/13182) --- Jubilate Sunday (24 Apr 1743) was buried Måns Ohlsson's son-child of Rafnefalla(?), named Ola, age 7 weeks. One possibility is that the parents had another son soon, and named him Ola. Or that your Ola was born elsewhere, to different parents... > > His military record is below and I have tracked from enlistment to death. > What I can’t see is if there is any indication of what his family name or > birth name was. I have his son’s birth record and HFL’s down to my > grandmother’s birth so I know it’s the correct Ola, but his parentage is > in > serious doubt now. Any ideas or did I miss something on one of the General > Musters below > > MODIG Ohla > > Family name:- > Birth date: 17430313 > Death date: 18001009 > Enlisted: 1772 > Discharged: - > > File number: SH-01-0054-1772 > > Regiment: Skånska Husarregementet > File: Norra Fredskog 1 > Company: Livkompaniet > Parish: Farstorp > Croft Number: SH-01-0054 > > > This is his first entry > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 902 (1775-1775) Image 340 > (AID: v376607.b340, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 903 (1779-1779) Image 270 > (AID: v376608.b270, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 904 (1783-1783) Image 430 > (AID: v376656a.b430, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 905 (1787-1787) Image 340 > (AID: v376657a.b340, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 907 (1791-1791) Image 290 > (AID: v376659a.b290, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 908 (1794-1794) Image 310 > (AID: v376660a.b310, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 909 (1797-1797) Image 30 > (AID: v376661a.b30, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > This is his last giving his death > > Generalmönsterrullor - Skånska husarregementet 910 (1801-1801) Image 310 > (AID: v376662.b310, NAD: SE/KrA/0023) > > His son Sven born 1788 to Ola Modig and Estred Zachrisdotter > Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 50 / page 83 (AID: v111347.b50.s83, > NAD: > SE/LLA/13279) --- Cavalry soldier Ola Modig in Nötorp(?). > > His Marriage to Estred Zachrisdotter in 1774 > Norra Rörum CI:2 (1774-1823) Image 189 / page 361 (AID: v111347.b189.s361, > NAD: SE/LLA/13279) --- No more info. > > Is there anything on that first Generalmonsterrullor that I missed...I'm > just starting to explore these records and they are still mostly "greek" > to --- The 1775 muster roll tells that Olha Modig in Nödarp was recruited 1 Dec 1772, was from Skåne province, 30 years old, had served 2 1/2 years. According to the age recorded he should be born about 1745. The 1801 muster roll tells that Ohla Modig in Nödarp died 15 Dec 1800, age 66, had served 28 years. According to the age recorded he should be born about 1735. The 1779 muster roll gives his age as 35, so born about 1744. The 1787 muster roll gives his age as 43, so born about 1744. But in 1791 he has suddenly aged to 57 years, born about 1734! // Bo Johansson
Hi Lance, I have followed your search. It is like reading a book.:} I hope the ending is satisfactory - I say that because genealogy never ends and you think - one more generation.: - for you and a great surprise to your friend.:} Please let us know the ending.:} Was the burger with onions good? Thank you for serving and have a very happy Independence Day. All the best Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance L. Piatt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:02:38 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Dear Lo, Thanks for the info. I realize that subscribing to ArkivDigital would help in my research, however, I have no Swedish in my personal research, for I am doing this for the benefit of a friend of mine. He came to me in the hopes that I may be able to locate his wife's Swedish Ancestry. No one in her family have any idea where their family came from other than Sweden. I thought it would be nice to trace her family back a couple of generations into Sweden for her, as a surprise. I could definitely try the local LDS library, it is only open on Tuesdays here and this being a holiday week, they were closed. I do not mean to be an imposition. I do get a little enthusiastic whenever finding something new. Thanks to everybody on this list, I have found a couple of other trees that include some members of this family. However, I find some blanks that I hope to fill. If I am over stepping my bounds, just let me know, I will cease. Kind Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Lois Casson Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Hi Lance, On the list we try to get you established in Sweden and then help you to do your own research. That's why Pono gave you the source information and not all the data. That info was gleaned from site(s) to which he has a paid subscription and research can take a lot of time. You can access Ancestry and ArkivDigital free at any LDS Family History Center. You will find online instruction for doing Swedish research at FamilySearch.org. Bo will likely help with detailed info, and I hope you are keeping the source info he has given you. Doing all the research and then typing up all the details can be very time consuming and most people fade out once we have located your family. Lo On 7/3/2014 9:49 PM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: > Dear Pono, > > I see the reference, but not the information: > > Mahalo, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pono (Norm) > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs > > I must be missing something - this was too easy. > > Barne-Åsaka AI:3 (1825-1832) Bild 24 / sid 40 (AID: v9754.b24.s40, NAD: > SE/GLA/13018) > > Aloha, > Pono > > Norman A. Sandin > POB 1602 > Kihei, HI 96753 > http://www.sandinfamily.com > > [pau] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Lance L. Piatt > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs > > In Search of Sven OLOFSSON who was married to Anna ANDERSDOTTER. Their > daughter Johanna was born 04 Oct 1825 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs. Thanks > in > advance. > > Regards, > Lance > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Any indication when Sven OLOFSSON an Anna ANDERSDOTTER passed away? -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-04 03:34: > > In Search of Sven OLOFSSON who was married to Anna ANDERSDOTTER. > Their daughter Johanna was born 04 Oct 1825 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs. Lekåsa C:4 (1789-1831) Image 105 / page 201 (AID: v9423.b105.s201, NAD: SE/GLA/13323): Åsaka births 1825 - Anna born 5 Oct, parents Aven Olofsson and Anna Andersdotter of L. Svenstorp. Pono found them at Lilla Svenstorp, in Barne-Åsaka AI:3 (1825-1832) Bild 24 / sid 40 (AID: v9754.b24.s40, NAD: SE/GLA/13018): - Svemn Olofsson, born 1796-01-02 Lekåsa. - wife Anna Andersdotter, born 1802-07-17 "ibm" (the same place). - 2 children born 1825 and 1828 "ibm". Bith-place Lekåsa might mean Lekåsa parish, or the Lekåsa, Essunga, Barne-Åsaka, Fåglum, and Kyrkås (Sandbäck) "pastorat". There is a Sven born 2 Jan 1796 in Åsaka parish, parents Olof Svensson and Stina Gun. (Gundesdotter/Gunnarsdotter?) of L. Svenstorp. Lekåsa C:4 (1789-1831) Image 23 / page 37 (AID: v9423.b23.s37, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). But in the household record the father is named Olle Nilsson, at Lilla Svenstorp in Barne-Åsaka AI:1 (1808-1814) Image 15 / page 47 (AID: v9752.b15.s47, NAD: SE/GLA/13018). - Olle Nilsson, died 1808. - wife Stina Gun. (Gundesdotter/Gunnarsdotter?), born 1768-12-12 Lekåsa. - 6 children born 1788-1805 "ibm", including Sven born 1796-01-02. The father's death is recorded 10 Dec 1808 as farmer Olle Nils. of L.Svenstorp, age 50, cause chest pains. Lekåsa C:4 (1789-1831) Image 151 / page 293 (AID: v9423.b151.s293, NAD: SE/GLA/13323). I suspect a typo in Sven's birth record, his brother Johannes is recorded as born 10 Oct 1798, parents Olle Nilssson and Greta Stina of L. Svenstorp (Lekåsa C:4 page 45). And his brother Nils is recorded as born 10 Sep 1792, parents Olof Nilssson and Stina Gunnarsdotter of L. Svenstorp (Lekåsa C:4 page 21). Unfortunately there seems to be a gap in the Lekåsa "pastorat" marriage records 1786-1788. // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Bo Johansson Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Stor Mellby Lance L. Piatt wrote 2014-07-04 10:31: > > Is Stor Mellby in Älvsborg or Skaraborgs? Stora Mellby is in Älvsborg county County: Älvsborgs län Province: Västergötland (There is also a Mellby parish in Skaraborg county) You can find useful information at ArkivDigital's web-site without paying for a subscription: http://www.arkivdigital.net/volume // Bo Johansson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Barbara, Thank you for your response. George is a dear friend of mine. He is one of the nicest guys I have ever met and very well liked at work. My Supervisor signed me with him to watch over him. After High School in the 1960s he went into the U.S. Marines, and unfortunately got hooked on drugs and alcohol. After the Marines, he worked odd jobs, but was not able to hold anything down. In the 1990s he landed a job in the cable industry, our supervisor gave him the job, and did everything he could to protect him. Poor George had a tendency to make forgetful mistakes and gets confused really easily. George started to clean himself up by the time I met him. After I was hired, part of my job was to watch over him. I could tell you some really funny stories. Poor George came into work every day worried that he was going be fired. After years of working together we became very close. He retired 2 years ago. Since he knew that I help people with their genealogy, he asked me if I would help him trace out his heritage, as a legacy to his son. Later he asked me to add his wife's genealogy as part of the deal, and yes hamburger's became part of the deal. As for the genealogy, I set definite limits, realizing that this endeavor can become a never ending saga. Have a great 4th, may there be much illuminations in your future. Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Young Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 4:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Hi Lance, I have followed your search. It is like reading a book.:} I hope the ending is satisfactory - I say that because genealogy never ends and you think - one more generation.: - for you and a great surprise to your friend.:} Please let us know the ending.:} Was the burger with onions good? Thank you for serving and have a very happy Independence Day. All the best Barbara in MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance L. Piatt" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 12:02:38 AM Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Dear Lo, Thanks for the info. I realize that subscribing to ArkivDigital would help in my research, however, I have no Swedish in my personal research, for I am doing this for the benefit of a friend of mine. He came to me in the hopes that I may be able to locate his wife's Swedish Ancestry. No one in her family have any idea where their family came from other than Sweden. I thought it would be nice to trace her family back a couple of generations into Sweden for her, as a surprise. I could definitely try the local LDS library, it is only open on Tuesdays here and this being a holiday week, they were closed. I do not mean to be an imposition. I do get a little enthusiastic whenever finding something new. Thanks to everybody on this list, I have found a couple of other trees that include some members of this family. However, I find some blanks that I hope to fill. If I am over stepping my bounds, just let me know, I will cease. Kind Regards, Lance -----Original Message----- From: Lois Casson Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs Hi Lance, On the list we try to get you established in Sweden and then help you to do your own research. That's why Pono gave you the source information and not all the data. That info was gleaned from site(s) to which he has a paid subscription and research can take a lot of time. You can access Ancestry and ArkivDigital free at any LDS Family History Center. You will find online instruction for doing Swedish research at FamilySearch.org. Bo will likely help with detailed info, and I hope you are keeping the source info he has given you. Doing all the research and then typing up all the details can be very time consuming and most people fade out once we have located your family. Lo On 7/3/2014 9:49 PM, Lance L. Piatt wrote: > Dear Pono, > > I see the reference, but not the information: > > Mahalo, > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pono (Norm) > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 7:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs > > I must be missing something - this was too easy. > > Barne-Åsaka AI:3 (1825-1832) Bild 24 / sid 40 (AID: v9754.b24.s40, NAD: > SE/GLA/13018) > > Aloha, > Pono > > Norman A. Sandin > POB 1602 > Kihei, HI 96753 > http://www.sandinfamily.com > > [pau] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Lance L. Piatt > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 3:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SWEDEN] Sven OLOFSSON Skaraborgs > > In Search of Sven OLOFSSON who was married to Anna ANDERSDOTTER. Their > daughter Johanna was born 04 Oct 1825 in Barne-Åsaka, Skaraborgs. Thanks > in > advance. > > Regards, > Lance > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Lo in Flo Lois Kälander Casson Pensacola, Florida USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message