In a message dated 8/24/2003 8:03:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, patelder@preferred.com writes: > If you have access to Mary B. Kegley's "Early Adventurers on the Western > Waters," in four volumes, you'll find a good deal of information in volumes > one and two on this Heavin line. > > Pat > > Talking about HAVENS... anyone know who the parents of this John Havens is? 1. John Havens Sr. Born about 1737/1738 in Virginia-MD. John died in Fleming Cty, Kentucky in 1807; he was 70. abt 1755 when John was 18, he married Abigail. Abigail died in Johnsons Creek, Fleming Co, KY abt 1809; she was 74. Born abt 1735. They had the following children: 2 i. Elizabeth (1756-<1818) 3 ii. John (1758-1834) 4 iii. Mary (~1760-1803) 5 iv. William (1765-1830) 6 v. Lydia (1766-) 7 vi. Joel (1767-1823)  Born in 1767 in Virginia, died in Cambridge, Bourbon Co., KY in 1823; he was 56. About 1785/1786 Joel married Mary Ann Summers, daughter of John Summers, in Faquier Co., Va.   vii. Pations (Patience). Born in 1769 in Frederick Co., Virginia.    On 10 Jan 1800 when Pations (Patience) was 31, she married Owen Bateman, in Fleming Co., KY.,. Many of the descendants of Joel Havens are found in Morgan County, Kentucky Joanne Pezzullo "self-taught family genealogist" Historical Melungeons <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html">http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/front.html</A>