Hi June ! Charlene is descended from a sister of "Your"George Ball Jr.She was the 3rd child of Elizabeth(Tunnell)and George Ball Sr.(b.1752)3rd .child 1st daughter !! Sarah Jane"Sallie"& Janey"Ball married( maybe not married ??)Jacob Ball or a possibility "NO"Jacob Ball at all!(Don't know yet.)She had 3 kids(haven't found 3 child )1:Alice who md.Jacob Wilson and 2:Andrew Ball who married Sarah Blair. and 3:the unknown female) Alice who md.Jacob Wilson and Andrew Ball who married Sarah Blair. NOW I forgot the names she gave me BUT they were Andrew Ball's grandchild !!! Melisaa left and didn't give a Ball name Sent out a big e-mail to person's I found on <A HREF="mailto:SW_VA-admin@rootsweb.com">SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com</A> or was it Looks like this is a GREAT one to join,Data sttes the man runs that site with an iron hand,.AND he stores your names and puts them in a A.B C section. with your E-maill address but NOT your name. Will send you Charlene's and Melissa's data whenever get it.Tonight I went to a site called <A HREF="www..public">www..public</A> records and Typed in Tunnell (in)Tx. and it gave me all the people who had Drivers License and it has ttheir birthdate beside their names. IF I click on their name I get the data ON their Drivers License !!. After I pulled them up I copied and pasted it to a letter that I mail to myself.After I got it I put all the female tunnell's who married a Tunnell a put them into a 2nd e-mail Later I can match up a husband and wife !! Father/mother to their teen age kids. Doesn't have but @ 6 states (Va. not on there !! Darn it!!) Well,its 2:00 ------I better get bed Am making you a lists of Elizabeth's and George Ball's 12 kids and a List of George Jr.with his 15 !!!! kids !!!! Note: I figure with these two' lists you can sorta figure out WHO is WHO on a page..Whatever yiu do find will probably NOT be about the 5 who left Honaker in 1820's and went to Ky.counties . On a Russell Co.marriages for 1862 1869 I found marriages for 2 to 4 kids of George Jr.'s .You want? Site has covered quite a few years. Tomorrow will scan my "family tree letter that I mail out to everyone BUT it has become outdated !! Sincerely yours, Wilma P.S. Want me to find that "Plaster "data.Oh !! I remember !! The lady was Mary Ellen Nall who married the Mr.Plaster. There was a James Ball ,who settled in N.C.and she is descended from him!!