Hello Edgar, Thank you for ALL of your postings this evening. I very much appreciate the time and effort you put in here. Searching SW/VA, Debra & all, About two years ago I have a major disk crash. Only now am I getting around to recovering what was not lost. As you ole tymers (sorry) know I have typed up a lot of this stuff and periodically post it. I have been very, very busy of late and have not done much. I thought there might be some newbies that could benefit from it. Maybe I can post a few things in the coming days. I don't want to flood the List. I also recovered my gedcom file of 10,000 people listed in the 1850-60 US census. Zipped it is about 3.5 Mbyte. If there were some way to post it on the internet so people could download it, I might do that. When I think of the hours I'm tempted to sale it. LOL But it's all God's time so I will repent! -eddie Stop Parental Deliquency!! Before their children kill you!