The Lee County census of 1850 lists Elizabeth Cooper 40 as Head of Household. Her children are George 20, Martha 17, Catherine 15 and Mary 12. By the time of the 1860 census, Elizabeth has died. George is married to Elizabeth Gilbert. The three daughters are living with Morris relatives or benevolent neighbors. We can trace our family in Lee county and later, but prior to the 1850 census can not find them. In subsequent marriages, all the siblings list Elizabeth Cooper as mother and leave the father's name blank. All list VA as place of birth. The will of Elias Morris mentions his children including " the heirs of my eldest daughter, Elizabeth Morris, deceased". One can speculate that Elizabeth Morris, the daughter of Elias Morris who was born in Montgomery County, NC in 1776 and died in Lee County, VA in 1859 married a Cooper, was abandoned with four children and no means of support and came to get help from her Morris relatives. We believe Elizabeth died of fever about 1854. We have not found the death record nor have we found evidence of her marriage to a Cooper. For several years now, we have not been able to get evidence before the 1850 census to tell us who we were. Several genealogists have tried to help us and we have exchanged many Emails but our tragic situation remains. This connection with all of you may be finder's day for our Coopers. THANKS, BOB

Dear Eddie, I live in Ohio and we through winter wheat seed in our gargen for the winter. It keeps the weeds out in the early spring and then we till it under for compost. Keeps our soil rich. Dotty

Funny stuff!!! >From a non-farming Iowan, I put winter wheat in my garden & turn it over in the spring to feed the soil. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <SW_VA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SW_VA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:01 AM Subject: SW_VA-D Digest V02 #131

Tom, You're certainly right about our ancestors. They were unbelievable! The URL for the site describing the historical/genealogy resource you asked about is: http://www.mounet.com/~echo/ppp.htm Don't miss the free timeline at the bottom of the site. Hope you enjoy and have a good day. See you soon. Danny

I like that "bullette" thing! The name for a young hog may be shoat (?). That is a pig, after it is weaned I think. Lamb is the only word I know for a young sheep; I don't know if there are any words that differentiate them by gender. How about colt (male) and filly (female) for young horses? And mare (adult female) and stallion (adult male) for older horses. Except of course for gelding, which is the horse equivalent of a steer. Arley Edgar A. Howard wrote: > Phil you might want to check on that > bull/steer thing : ) Kathy Rogers >>> > > LOL > > Well, what is a young bull? Yearling? bullette? > > I know what a pullet is. > > Goose or gander? > > There's a name for a young hog, I don't mean pig <g>, but I do not > think it is gender related. > > Ewe. Don't know about young sheep. > > Seems my mother had several names for each animule. > > -eddie > > For that righteous man dwelling among them, > in seeing and hearing, vexed his > righteous soul from day to day with > their unlawful deeds; - 2 Peter 2:8 > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > -sysop

Phil you might want to check on that bull/steer thing : ) Kathy Rogers >>> LOL Well, what is a young bull? Yearling? bullette? I know what a pullet is. Goose or gander? There's a name for a young hog, I don't mean pig <g>, but I do not think it is gender related. Ewe. Don't know about young sheep. Seems my mother had several names for each animule. -eddie For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; - 2 Peter 2:8

Right winter wheat is planted in fall, grows through winter and harvested in spring. Phil you might want to check on that bull/steer thing : ) Kathy Rogers > Eddie, > > I live in KS and have asked that question a million times, and still > can't remember the answer for sure, but I am fiarly certain that it's > the stuff they plant in the fall and harvest in the spring- i.e. the big > wheat crop. > It's hard enough remembering that heifers turn into cows and bulls turn > into steers. > > Phil > > > "Edgar A. Howard" wrote: > > > Volks, > > > > Any KS wheat farmers on the list? What's winter wheat? Is > > it planted or sown in the winter? > > > > -eddie > > NC > > > > . . . for there is wrath gone out from the Lord; > > the plague is begun. - Num. 16:46 > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > > #3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > > Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > > -sysop > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for help, etc. are > PROHIBITED on this List. -sysop > >

Heifers turn into cows naturally; bulls turn into steers only with a little help. Arley Phil Crowther wrote: > Eddie, > > I live in KS and have asked that question a million times, and still > can't remember the answer for sure, but I am fiarly certain that it's > the stuff they plant in the fall and harvest in the spring- i.e. the big > wheat crop. > It's hard enough remembering that heifers turn into cows and bulls turn > into steers. > > Phil > > "Edgar A. Howard" wrote: > > > Volks, > > > > Any KS wheat farmers on the list? What's winter wheat? Is > > it planted or sown in the winter? > > > > -eddie > > NC > > > > . . . for there is wrath gone out from the Lord; > > the plague is begun. - Num. 16:46 > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > > #3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > > Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > > -sysop > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for help, etc. are > PROHIBITED on this List. -sysop

Winter wheat is a cold climate wheat and is used to make flour for yeast breads and products that need a lot of gluten (pasta). Summer wheat is a warm climate wheat and produces a soft flour for cakes (cake flour). All purpose flour is a blend with both kinds of wheat and is used for biscuits and quick breads and some cakes. That information is from a cooks standpoint and not an agriculture one. We don't grow wheat in South Texas - just a patch of oats in the winter for deer. Judy Judith Wood Henderson 915 Furman Avenue Corpus Christi, Texas 78404 Researching the families of: COLE, HOWELL-Virginia, Tennessee, Louisiana, Texas COCHRAN, WOOD-South Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Louisiana DAVENPORT, LOWE-South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas POLLARD, FARRIS-Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana ILES, HARPER-Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas WHITE, STEPHENS-Georgia, Alabama, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Crowther" <crowther@southwind.net> To: <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [SW_VA] The staff of life > Eddie, > > I live in KS and have asked that question a million times, and still > can't remember the answer for sure, but I am fiarly certain that it's > the stuff they plant in the fall and harvest in the spring- i.e. the big > wheat crop. > It's hard enough remembering that heifers turn into cows and bulls turn > into steers. > > Phil > > > "Edgar A. Howard" wrote: > > > Volks, > > > > Any KS wheat farmers on the list? What's winter wheat? Is > > it planted or sown in the winter? > > > > -eddie > > NC > > > > . . . for there is wrath gone out from the Lord; > > the plague is begun. - Num. 16:46 > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > > #3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > > Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > > -sysop > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for help, etc. are > PROHIBITED on this List. -sysop > >

Volks, Any KS wheat farmers on the list? What's winter wheat? Is it planted or sown in the winter? -eddie NC . . . for there is wrath gone out from the Lord; the plague is begun. - Num. 16:46

Eddie, I live in KS and have asked that question a million times, and still can't remember the answer for sure, but I am fiarly certain that it's the stuff they plant in the fall and harvest in the spring- i.e. the big wheat crop. It's hard enough remembering that heifers turn into cows and bulls turn into steers. Phil "Edgar A. Howard" wrote: > Volks, > > Any KS wheat farmers on the list? What's winter wheat? Is > it planted or sown in the winter? > > -eddie > NC > > . . . for there is wrath gone out from the Lord; > the plague is begun. - Num. 16:46 > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > -sysop

I have a James Debord who lived in Washington Co. VA. who came from Tweed, England. Does anyone on the list know what county Tweed, England is in? I can't seem to find it. Wanda

For those Fuller researchers: The Jesse Stewart transcription of early deaths in Buchanan County, page 7 line 6: Fuller, George died 8/8/1868 (Killed by Indians).... The death certificate I received from Richmond, didn't contain this information. Recently I had the opportunity to check the actual microfilm. The cause of death is listed as "Consumption." The next line down is a 12 year old Heborn Hackney who died on Feb 5, 1868. His cause of death is "Killed by Indians." Peggy C Fuller Keen President Buchanan County Historical Society http://www.bcplnet.org/ Old Bones Website http://www.geocities.com\Heartland\Valley\5049 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.393 / Virus Database: 223 - Release Date: 9/30/02

SKYGEN 2002 Will be presented by The Southern Kentucky Genealogical Society and the Kentucky Library at Western Kentucky University Saturday, 5 October 2002, 8:30AM-4:00PM at the Downing University Center, Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, Kentucky. The speakers will be Pamela Boyer Porter, CGRS, CGL; J. Mark Lowe, CG; and Gail Miller, CG. There will be genealogy vendors present who will have a variety of genealogical merchandise for sale. Also door prizes will be awarded. Registration will take place from 8:30 to 9:15. The cost for the conference will be $36. To view the lecture schedule, obtain a registration form, or for directions to the Downing University Center, please access the website at http://www.kytnresearch.com/skygen/ Chad Reagan Vice-President and Publicity Chairman Southern Kentucky Genealogical Society

Eddie - I've never seen the Tom Dooley story but have had a week in front of the "tube" watching "The Civil War" documentary by Ken Burns. This is the second time I've seen it & learn more each time. I'm sending for the DVD's. Sad..... our cousins fighting against each other. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <SW_VA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SW_VA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:00 AM Subject: SW_VA-D Digest V02 #127

Volks, NC PBS TV is running a show tonite on Tom Dooley. I don't know if it is in other states. I get UNC public TV. It should be of interest to those with NC ancestors in the Yadkin Valley area. I don't know the whole story. But I sure can sing the song. LOL -eddie "Religion is the opium of the masses." - Marx * * * "Spending someone else's money is the opium of the elite." -howard

I am looking for parents/siblings of Berryman McDaniel born Dec, 1788 in VA and raised in KY. Father could have married a Berryman. Berryman was also known as Benjamin.

Debra Wrote: >>>Lee, In your reply to Judy Smith you wrote: "Before the road through Cumberland Gap was completed settlers used pack horses and shafts of poles pulled by the horses." What exactly are these? Thanks, Debra<<< The poles were strong young trees cut from the woods and were fastened to the harness on the horse, one pole on each side of the horse and long enough to drag behind. The load to be hauled was placed on the poles and secured so that brush along the trail would not drag it off. This placed half of the load on the ground and half on the horses back, allowing each horse to haul more than if it were place on the back of the horse. The ends of the poles would slide over the rocks and short stumps along the trail and did not require a road as wide as needed for a wagon... G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

Lee, In your reply to Judy Smith you wrote: "Before the road through Cumberland Gap was completed settlers used pack horses and shafts of poles pulled by the horses." What exactly are these? Thanks, Debra

Does anyone know of a freeware gedcom viewer that can be copied to a CD-ROM, along with the gedcom file, to send to people that want to view information on a certain family that perhaps do not own the genealogy software? Thanks, BOBBY VENCILL