In a message dated 1/27/99 12:27:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jerry wrote: << In 1778, the state of Virginia made known to the settlers of Virginia, primarily aimed at the western parts of Virginia, that even though they were living on the lands, they were going to have to prove ownership or apply for ownership from the State of Virginia. This was done because Virginia was taking over control of the land of Virginia. This was supposed to take effect and be bound by law, I believe in the year 1783 or 84. >> Hi group! This law was also used to get the Melungeons/and others out of the rich bottom lands they owned so that the incoming Scots-Irish could take it over. The Melungeons could not get to Richmond where they were required to go to "prove" their claims and so they were pushed up onto the ridges where the others did not want to go. They were later to lose other rights, including the right to vote, to be schooled, to testify in court against a 'white' man, to marry a 'white' person and all because their skins were not so white as the Scots/Irish. I believe the Melungeons were of Mediterrean heritage. I am among a group of descendants of these Melungeons AND of the Scots-Irish who came into the valleys. I have met the enemy and he is me! :-) Nancy S

Hello, I can not help with information about Tazewell Co cemeteries, but there are some folks listed on the Tazewell Co GenWeb page who will do lookups in their cemetery books. ~~~ Also, the following Patrick men were listed as members of the 45th Va Infantry, Co A, during the Civil War; Green Patrick, Edward Patrick, and Robert Patrick. Hope this helps. Linda Genealogy - Always looking for HUNNELL , CRUEY , PUCKETT , LAMBERT , DUFF , MCGUIRE , HARRIS , HARRISON , TATUM , & STEEL(E) in SW Va .

Hi Rooters, Here comes some more Collier stuff. This is great grandfather George Lytle Collier, son of Aaron J. Collier, Jr. and Elizabeth Berry. George Lytle Collier was born 12/2/1827 in Lee County, Virginia. He died 2/14/1915 in Norton, Wise County, Virginia. He married first 1/1/1850 Cecilia (Celia) Jane Jones (1831-12/5/1868), daughter of Isaiah and Mary Watson Davis Jones. George and Celia had 7 children: 1. William D. Collier b. 8/1850. Married first 6/5/1873 Lucinda Elizabeth Parsons. Married second 7/16/1897 Elvira Mullins. 2. Mary E. Collier b. 12/1852. Married 7/30/1871 Ira C. Parsons. 3. Isaiah Henry Collier b. 12/27/1855 d. 3/31/1944. Married 5/6/1880 Rosa Jane Willis. 4. Aaron J. Collier b. 5/31/1857 d. 8/16/1918. Married 9/14/1876 Sarah Elizabeth Hooker. 5. Benjamin Isaac Newton Collier b. 4/2/1860. 6. Hester Ann Collier b. 12/7/1862 d. 1/16/1948. Married 12/30/1884 George Melvin Gilley. 7. Daniel B. Collier b. 4/15/1866. Second George Lytle Collier married 10/19/1869 Cassa Gilley Willis, daughter of John B. and Mary Polly Huff Gilley, and widow of Alexander Willis. Cassa brought her 4 Willis children to the marriage: Isaac Taylor Willis, Arminda Jane Willis, John Willis, and Joseph Willis. George and Cassie had 11 children: 1. Henry P. Collier b. 1871. Married 2/28/1899 Dona Dean. 2. Martha J. Collier b. 1/1/1872. Married 3/8/1891 Girrard Roach. 3. Oma Victoria Collier b. 6/16/1873 d. 6/20/1888 of typhoid fever. 4. Luemma Frances Collier b. 1/20/1875 d. 1964. Married 2/8/1896 W. Elbert Hill. 5. Creed Flanary Collier b. 11/9/1876 d. 10/27/1972. Married 8/9/1897 Alpha A. (Doris) Dean. 6. Ollie S. Collier b. 10/15/1878. Married first 12/20/1898 James A. Willis, married second Oak D. Clark. 7. Eliza Belle Collier b. 7/30/1880 d. 8/10/1964. Married first 12/20/1899 Jonah Matthew Robinette, married second 1921 Samuel Roberts. 8. Judge Howell Collier b. 3/6/1882 d. 7/7/1928. Married 8/6/1911 Sarah Elizabeth Stuart. 9. Alice Collier b. 5/1884. 10. Lorena Collier b. 5/7/1886 d. 1900. 11. Tempa Adeline Collier b. 7/15/1888. Married 7/12/1910 John A. Mckelney. Please send any corrections and or additions. Anne Bays (Richmond, Virginia)

Hi everyone, Just thought I'd let you know that I own a copy of "Vital Statistics of Johnson County, Kentucky, 1852-1904", by Charles C. Wells. It covers births, deaths and marriages for those time periods. I will help with lookups if anyone needs anything... Pam Moehling moehling@mc.net

-----Original Message----- From: Ann Ryan <annd@san.rr.com> To: SandraG627@aol.com <SandraG627@aol.com> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 9:18 PM Subject: Re: Clay and Chapman-was- Re: families > >-----Original Message----- >From: SandraG627@aol.com <SandraG627@aol.com> >To: annd@san.rr.com <annd@san.rr.com> >Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 3:31 AM >Subject: Clay and Chapman-was- Re: families > > >>In a message dated 1/24/99 8:31:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, >annd@san.rr.com >>writes: >> >>> CHAPMAN CLAY are families I >>> >>have done much research but there is never an end! Who can I >help >>> >>and who can >> >>I have these 2, who are yours? >>Sandy in Fla >> >Sandy in Florida from Ann in California: I have lots of stuff but it >will be a few weeks , I am a decendant of George Chapman son of John >Chapman and Sallie Abbott and Patience Clay daughter of Mitchell Clay >and Phoebe Belcher, there is more but let me hear from you. >

Hi everyone1 i have more info on my Levi Boggs, if anyone can help. My grandfather was JUDGE FINDLEY BOGGS. ( he wasn't a judge, that was his name.) My grandmother's name was FLOELLA WITT. Judge was born in Lee co. July 14, 1906. His father was LEVI BOGGS, b. Nov. 4th, 1873 (probably in Lee or Wise Co.) d. sept. 18, 1956. Levi was married to a MARY JANE HOBBS april 29th 1901. His next wife, ( my G-grandmother was LAURA HATHIE PARSONS married sept 21, 1905 in Wise Co. Levi's bros. and sisters were: Rebecca...Timothy...Lutitia...William.. Silas...Rachael...Nelson. Judge's bros. and sisters were: Worley...Virney...Earnest...rosabelle......... Troy ...Mossie. would like to hear from anyone with ties or any knowledge of these names. Thanks! e.g.boggs

Kenneth, I don't have a dog in this race, but I believe you should double check place of birth of Mary Ann Castle b.1752 at Castlewood, Va. I believe Castlewood Va. had not been settled in 1752, infact it would have been several years later than that..I would think Mary Ann would have been born some where in Augusta county or Frederick Co. Va.in 1752 and moved to Castlewood area no earlier than 1769.. G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va.

Searching for information on the TRIGG family of WV and Tazewell, VA. Ellen Trigg was born in VA in 1840. Her children were James b. 1865, George b. 1869, Jennie b. 1875, Amanda b. 1877, and John W. b. 1879. I have traced her back to the 1870 census of Tazewell, VA and found her all the way to 1900. All the censuses that I have tracked her but no husband. I found her in the 1870 census living with another family (The Edmond Campbell's) but do not know the connection. How would I find her husband of marriage records for that time period? any information would be helpful. Also, if you have any connections to this family, I would like to here from you. Thank You, B. Noaks

I am currently researching The NOAKS Family of Wise Couty VA. The inforamtion I have so far is Henry NOKES b. ?. His son Russell NOKES b. 1880 in PA. Married Sarah Ann Johnson b. 1880 KY. Their children, Isaiah b. VA 1913, Maryetta b. VA 1910, George b. VA 1908, Delphia b. VA 1905, Floyd b. VA 1919, Lawrence b. 1912 and Albert b. KY 1901. They lived in Stonega, VA in the 1910 census and I have lost them before that. Russell is my direct line. He worked at the Stonega Coal and Coke Plant in 1920. He died in 1930 on River Row in Norton VA. Any inforamtion would be helpful on these families. Thank you, B. Noaks

I should know by now that I am related in some way to everyone in Russell Co. and the SW Va area. I don't remember which list a query was posted about CASTLE,so am sending to all. After deleting a post about Castle, I found this: Mary Ann CASTLE, b. Aug 15, 1752, Castlewood, Va. D. Jan 1, 1784 (d/o Jacob CASTLE, of Wash. Co., Va.) mar. James Edward LITTON, b. Nov 13, 1750, Fincastle Va., d. May 10, 1840, Williamsburg, Ky. Hope this is some help to the Castle researcher. Nancy

<<<Next we will be discussing coke ovens. I want to hear about them. If there is harder work I wouldn't know what it was. I have seen them burning but never got near them. I have heard that Blacks were overly represented in that position for various reason. Some rational and some more stereotyped. -sysop -----Original Message----- From: Jonah May <jomay@eastky.net> To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 09:15 Subject: Re: Coal Tipple >Edgar, > A coal tipple is the huge hopper that coal is stored in until loading >on to trucks or rail cars, also coal processing/wash plants are referred >to as tipples. >Jonah > >At 01:18 AM 01/27/1999 -0500, Edgar A. Howard wrote: >>All, >> >> Some have ask what a coal tipple is. Someone was injured on >>one. I'm sure someone can give us more detail. Coal is a big part of >>the history of SW VA. In the "Back Counties" as my father called >>them. >> >>> A tipple performs several functions, the essential features are that >>> coal is brought in on one conveyance at a higher level, dumped into >>the >>> tipple where it may be only stored, or may be processed, and then is >>> dumped at a lower lever into another conveyance. A tipple for steam >>> engine use consisted of a side track with entry high on a hill. A train >>> would back a coal car onto the side track and park it there. The side >>> track would gain altitude toward its distal end and be high enough >>that >>> another steam engine could back its coal tender under it. The dump >>> doors under the coal car on top would be opened and dump coal >>through >>> the track on top of the tipple into the coal tender. A mining tipple >>> serves to receive the coal from the mine and dump it into coal cars. >> >>-eddie >> >> >>==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >>#6 HELP is available from the sysop/owner anytime at: >> ehoward@conknet.com or swvaroot@swva.net >> > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). >Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > -sysop > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== #4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for help, etc. are PROHIBITED on this List. Violators will be promptly locked out. -sysop

The coal temple was all of the things said. It was also the place where the coal was sorted to remove rock and slate. It was then fed into a crusher and/or sorted. The sorting process was a series of various size screens. In later years most coal was always crushed and graded to form 'stoker' coal. 'Stoker' coal was of a size for use by an auger system to automatically feed the coal into the fire box. 'Lump' coal is what was sold to most home owners before the age of stoker fed furnaces - that is in the days of the old kitchen cook stove and warm morning heating stove. The final purpose of the coal temple was the loading process into train cars. Next we will be discussing coke ovens. -----Original Message----- From: Jonah May <jomay@eastky.net> To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 09:15 Subject: Re: Coal Tipple >Edgar, > A coal tipple is the huge hopper that coal is stored in until loading >on to trucks or rail cars, also coal processing/wash plants are referred >to as tipples. >Jonah > >At 01:18 AM 01/27/1999 -0500, Edgar A. Howard wrote: >>All, >> >> Some have ask what a coal tipple is. Someone was injured on >>one. I'm sure someone can give us more detail. Coal is a big part of >>the history of SW VA. In the "Back Counties" as my father called >>them. >> >>> A tipple performs several functions, the essential features are that >>> coal is brought in on one conveyance at a higher level, dumped into >>the >>> tipple where it may be only stored, or may be processed, and then is >>> dumped at a lower lever into another conveyance. A tipple for steam >>> engine use consisted of a side track with entry high on a hill. A train >>> would back a coal car onto the side track and park it there. The side >>> track would gain altitude toward its distal end and be high enough >>that >>> another steam engine could back its coal tender under it. The dump >>> doors under the coal car on top would be opened and dump coal >>through >>> the track on top of the tipple into the coal tender. A mining tipple >>> serves to receive the coal from the mine and dump it into coal cars. >> >>-eddie >> >> >>==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >>#6 HELP is available from the sysop/owner anytime at: >> ehoward@conknet.com or swvaroot@swva.net >> > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). >Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > -sysop >

Hi Rooters, I have been working on this Collier family of Lee County, Virginia for quite some time. I would really appreciate any suggestions, additions and/or corrections to my work. Anne H. Bays (Richmond, Virginia) _________________________________________ Here is what I have found about the children of Aaron J. Collier, Jr. (1801-1859) and his second wife, Sarah Horton (1824-1900). Sarah was the daughter of John Horton and Jane Sergent. Aaron, son of Aaron J. Collier, Sr., and his second wife Frances (Franky)______? married Sarah in 1851 1. Sarah E. Collier b. 1851 Lee County, m. 9/25/1870 John B. Shepard (I don't know because I can't find any reference to the B. being Baxter, but I believe this is the Baxter Shepard who is on several of your records as marrying Sarah's sister Julia.) The marriage record says Eliza Collier, daughter of Aaron and Sallie Collier married John B. Shepard of Wise County, son of Andrew and Sallie Shepard. Eliza was 18, he was 21. I found them in the 1880 Scott County census: John B. Shepard 31, Sarah E. Shepard 28, Julia B. daughter 5, all born Va. Same for 1900 Scott County census: John B. 51, Sarah E. 48 -- here she gives birth date September, 1851. Sarah was in the 1860 census as age 5, 1870 census age 17. 2. Virginia Collier b. May or June 1854 Lee County, died 12/10/1854 age 6 months in Lee County. 3. James Henderson Collier b. 10/14/1855 in Lee County m. Wise County 4/6/1874, age 18, Abigail Gilley age 16, daughter of Elkomah and Jemina Gilley, Abigale died 6/3/1885 and James m. Fredonia Cousins. James d. 1/9/1929. James was in the 1860 census age 4. He was 14 in the 1870 census, 24 in the 1880 census and 44 in the 1900 census. 4. America Collier b. 4/7/1859. In the 1880 census a disabled persons form was filed listing her as an idiot, unable to care for herself. This disability was present at birth. On 9/30/1883, a committee, consisting of John Gilley and William N. G. Slemp, was appointed to protect America's rights. She was still living with her mother in the 1900 census. America was 42. They were living with James and Fredonia and their children. America was 1 in the 1860 census, 11 in the 1870 census, 21 in the 1880 census. 5. Julia Collier b. 1860. I was unable to find anything about Julia and she did not show up in any census. No birth, marriage or death records. I need a descendant to come forth here with some records! 6. Frances Collier b. 1861 in Lee County m. 10/31/1884 age 23 in Lee County, Daniel Boone Wade age 20, son of S. A. & A. Wade. Frances died 10/24/1891 in Lee County. Frances was 9 in the 1870 census, 18 in the 1880 census, living with mother and James H.'s family. 7. Ordelia Collier b. 1864 Lee County m. 12/7/1882 age 18 in Lee County J. Floyd Blanton age 19 of Wise County, son of J. and Sarah Blanton. Ordelia was 6 in the 1870 census and 15 in the 1880 census living with mother and brother James H. and family.

Here is my version of the children of Aaron J. Collier, Jr. (1801- 1869) and his first wife Elizabeth Berry (1807-1851). Aaron and Elizabeth were married 1/1/1823 in Lee County, Va. 1. Malinda Collier b. 1824 in Lee County. She is shown in the 1830 census as 5-10. She married George Washington Shoope. (I can't find a date.) In the 1850 census they are living in Lee County: George Shoope 25, Malinda Shoope 23 (I think some of these girls fudged a little about their ages), Hannah 3, David C. 1. In the 1870 census, Malinda is a widow living in Harlan Kentucky, next door to her daughter Hannah. Malinda Collier Shoope, age 48, born Va. d/o of Aaron and Elizabeth Berry Collier, w/o George W. Shoope, Aaron 13, b. Ky. 2. George Lytle Collier b. 12/2/1827 in Lee County. He is shown in the 1830 census as 0-5. He married first 1/1/1850 Celia Jane Jones (2/15/1830-12/5/1868), daughter of Isaiah H. Jones and Mary Watson Davis, and second 10/19/1869, he married Cassa Gilley Willis (1846-8/10/1896) daughter of John B. Gilley and Mary (Polly) Huff and widow of Alexander Willis. George died 2/14/1915 in Norton, Wise County, Va. 3. Mary Jane Collier b. 1829 in Lee County. She was listed in the 1830 census as 0-5. She married 1849 Albert Williams, b. 1828 Ash County, N. C. They are shown in the 1850 census: Albert Williams 22 Mary J. Williams 21. 4. Lucinda Collier b. 1831 in Lee County. She married 1847 John E. Dale. 5. John Beauregard Collier b. 1834 in Lee County. He was 16 in the 1850 census. He married 2/22/1852 Rebecca Roberts. Died 1864. 6. Francis Marion Collier b. 1835 in Lee County. He was 14 in the 1850 census. In 1855, he married Letitia Wade, daughter of Castleton Wade and Margaret Duff Wade. Francis died 9/4/1859. 7. William Jasper Collier b. 12/1837 in Lee County. He was 12 in the 1850 census. In 1855, he married Frances Ely Reasor. William died 9/23/1919 in Collinsville, Grayson County, Texas. 8. Isaac Newton Collier, b. 2/22/1841 in Lee County. Listed as 10 in the 1850 census. In the 1860 census, he was 19 and living in Wise County with his brother George. He married 9/10/1866 Amanda Jane Gilley. Isaac died 2/10/1903 in Frenchburg, Menefee County, Kentucky. 9. Thomas Benton Collier b. 1842 in Lee County. Listed as 8 in the 1850 census, 17 in the 1860 census. He married 1873 Mary Gilley, daughter of George W. and Nancy Gilley. 10. Hannah Collier b. 1844 in Lee County. Listed as 6 in the 1850 census, 14 in the 1860 census. She married 12/28/1868 Enos Kineman Hyatt son of Uriah and Nancy Kennedy Hyatt. Please send additions and corrections. There will be more to follow. Anne Bays (Richmond, Virginia)

Looking for info on Thomas, Arthur, and Cecil TYREE form Clifton Forge, VA. If anyone has any info they would share I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Jim, Just delete!! Eddie wanted the people who had purchased maps of his to express their opinions of them on the List. That was all Joan was doing!!! Diana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ USGenWeb County Coordinator for: Roanoke Co., Roanoke City & Salem City, VA at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~varoanok/index.html Wood Co., WV at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvwood/indexa.htm Mason Co., WV at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvmason/ Rootsweb Mail List Owner/Admin for: VAROANOK-L@Rootsweb.com WVWOOD-L@Rootsweb.com KINZER-L@Rootsweb.com GRALEY-L@Rootsweb.com MILLER-L@Rootsweb.com SCHMIDT-L@Rootsweb.com BERNHARD-L@Rootsweb.com KARP-L@Rootsweb.com GenConnect Surname Boards Admin. for: KINZER, CORNS & MILLER. MY HOME PAGE: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/e/a/Diana-K-Heath/ ***Proud Rootsweb Sponsor*** -----Original Message----- From: JimHawes@ix.netcom.com <JimHawes@ix.netcom.com> To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 2:54 PM Subject: Re: COUNTY MAPS >On 01/27/99 12:16:38 you wrote: >> >>Diane >>The Botetourt County map is great!! >>I wish I had such a map for every county in the country in which my ancestors >>abided! >>love >>joan >> >> >>==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >>#7 "Roll Calls" or such by other names are to be called >>by the SYSOP ONLY. NO WARNINGS!! Each member is free to post their >>SURNAMES anytime they please. >> >> >> > >Thank you messages that could be addressed to the person they are directed to would save a heck of a >lot of mail box space! > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#1 When you have a new email address please UNSUBSCRIBE from the >old BEFORE you lose it; and SUBCRIBE from the NEW address as soon >as you get access to it. If you fail to do this please send the >old and new address to: ehoward@conknet.com and the Mailing List name >-sysop >

On 01/27/99 12:16:38 you wrote: > >Diane >The Botetourt County map is great!! >I wish I had such a map for every county in the country in which my ancestors >abided! >love >joan > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#7 "Roll Calls" or such by other names are to be called >by the SYSOP ONLY. NO WARNINGS!! Each member is free to post their >SURNAMES anytime they please. > > > Thank you messages that could be addressed to the person they are directed to would save a heck of a lot of mail box space!

Hi Mike, I tried out the search engine and everything seemed fine...got a few leads to ..I think.. Was really easy to use, information came up fast..was great..thanks..I'll be using it alot more in the future... Pam Moehling

In a message dated 1/27/99 6:19:21 AM !!!First Boot!!!, ehoward@conknet.com writes: << Coal is a big part of the history of SW VA. In the "Back Counties" as my father called them. >> When I attended the huge Flea Market in Hillsville several years ago I came across a box of oval brass pieces with a different number on each one. I was told that there were two boards at the entrance of the coal mines. Each miner had his own number and would transfer that from the "out of the mine" board to the "in the mine" board each time he entered. This served to identify those trapped in the mine incase of an accident.

In a message dated 1/27/99 8:24:22 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Angel329@prodigy.net writes: If Jim could see how wonderful these maps are, he would be ordering one!!! << Jim, Just delete!! Eddie wanted the people who had purchased maps of his to express their opinions of them on the List. That was all Joan was doing!!! Diana ~~~~~~ >>