---------- From: G. Lee Hearl <glh@naxs.com> To: Cyberbay77@aol.com Subject: Re: Bean Stringin' Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 12:07 AM My Grandpa and Grandma made a lot of molasses, they had fourteen children! They always had music and dancing the whole neighborhood attended. Grandma always popped a dishpan full of popcorn and poured it into the pan after the molasses had been dipped out and mixed it with the remaining molasses so the children could have popcorn balls to eat. Uncle Charlie always liked to wear nice clothes and acted older than his age and one time he put on his new overalls and was standing around trying to look "grownup", hands in his pockets, leaning back slightly.. They took the pan off the fire and placed it on an incline so the molasses would run to one end..The molasses were dipped out and she poured in the popcorn and about that time, Charlie stepped backward and fell into the high end of the pan, slid down to the lower end and the popcorn flew everywhere! The pan was hot and slick and he rolled over several times trying to get out! When he did, he was covered with popcorn and warm molasses. He ran over and jumped in the creek and that cold water hardened the molasses on him! Luckily he wasn't burned and he grew up to be a pretty good feller' Infact, he turned out to be a Crackerjack!! I'm looking for information and stories on Herralds etc. in Southwest Va. and N.C...... Ye Ole Storyteller G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va..

Thanks, to everyone for the reply. This has helps alot. My ancestors the Sergent's are from this area. They relocated to southeasten Kentucy. Many Thanks

Hi Kathy, I too am researching Horn, Lester, and Mullins in Buchanan County. If you're searching the Horn name, I bet you have the Keen surname too. Do you have any connection Henry Horn or Elisha Lester? What Mullins family are you researching? Let's get together and compare lines. Bryant Subject: re last 3 day's emails Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:00:10 -0600 From: "Kathy Bemisdarfer" <bkpr1@netins.net> To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com I just got home after being gone for 3 days, Had 101 E-mails. But loved everyone of them. I am only 46 years old, but do remember my Grandmother feather bed, Shuck Beans, (or Leather Britches) I even help to string the Green Beans on the heavy twin and got my fingers stuck many time. I had forgotten about taking the broom to smooth at the feather bed. It came back to me as soon as I read the story of making the bed. Now we called the bacon that you put in the Pinto Beans, Fat Back. To those of you who do not know what that is, It is Salt cured pork. Thanks for all the stories, it makes me Homesick. I live in the Midwest now. I am Researching on Davis, Vance, Horn, 2-Lester sides, Webbs, Baker's, Mullins, Stewarts, Rife's, Peaks, These Names reach from Wise Co., VA, to Buchanan Co., VA, Letcher Co., Ky and then into Southern WV. > Kathy

Hi, Could someone tell me where Poor Valley Ridge is located? I have a land document date 20 Oct. 1837 of Lee County. Many Thanks Poor Valley Ridge Rose Hill

Does anyone know of any RUDY'S that lived in the sw area of Va.?

Could someone tell me more about Crusenberry Hollow Pennington Gap in Lee Co. Reason I ask, my gr gr grandfather was named James Crusenberry Anderson and I have a time findingy out where the Crusenberry came from. Many thanks. Margaret Butler - margarat@cwv.net

The following are towns, communities, and neighborhoods of Lee Co. They are on the USGS maps. I will look up a few. _TOWN_ _MAP DISTRICT_ Ben Hur Ben Hur Benedict Pennington Gap Blackwater Ben Hur Bondurant (historical) Pennington Gap Bonny Blue Pennington Gap Boons Path Rose Hill Buckles (historical) Keokee Bundy Keokee Calvin Keokee Carrol Mill Rose Hill Caylor Ewing Cedar Hill Hubbard Springs Collier Mill Ben Hur Cowan Mill Ewing Darbyville Pennington Gap Darnell Town Keokee Deep Springs Big Stone Gap Delvale Keokee Dominion Pennington Gap Dona Looneys Gap Dryden Keokee Edds Mill Rose Hill Ely Keokee Ewing Ewing Fleenortown Hubbard Springs Gibson Mill Wheeler Gibson Station Wheeler Goodloe (historical) Big Stone Gap Hagan Rose Hill Harvey Big Stone Gap Henegartown Rose Hill Hockett Hubbard Springs Hubbard Springs Hubbard Springs Imperial (historical) Pennington Gap Jasper Big Stone Gap Johnsons Mill (historical) Keokee Jonesville Ben Hur Jonesville Camp Ground Hubbard Springs Keokee Keokee Kesterson Mill Ewing Kincer Mill Ben Hur Lee (historical) Pennington Gap Leona Mines (historical) Pennington Gap Maness Pennington Gap Mayflower Pennington Gap Mill Branch (historical) Keokee Mohawk (historical) Keokee Monarch Pennington Gap Nash Mill Wheeler Newtown Keokee Ocoonita Hubbard Springs Olinger Big Stone Gap Penn Lee Pennington Gap Pennington Gap Pennington Gap Pocket Pennington Gap Pughs Keokee Purcell Keokee Rawhide Keokee Robbins (historical) Keokee Rose Hill Rose Hill Saint Charles Pennington Gap Seminary Big Stone Gap Shepherd Hill Keokee Sigma Keokee Smiley Rose Hill Stickleyville Stickleyville Stone Creek Pennington Gap Sulphur Springs Ben Hur Turners Siding Pennington Gap Van Sneedville Wheeler Wheeler Wilson Hill Rose Hill Woodway Stickleyville

_NAME _ _MAP DISTRICT_ Beech Spring Hubbard Springs Blue Spring Stickleyville Cheek Spring Ben Hur Crockett Spring Ben Hur Spout Spring Hubbard Springs Wake Spring Big Stone Gap Big Ridge Duffield Brooks Ridge Coleman Gap Chestnut Flats Sneedville Chestnut Ridge Back Valley Chestnut Ridge Hubbard Springs Chestnut Ridge Ben Hur Divide Ridge Benham Newman Ridge Kyles Ford Newman Ridge Kyles Ford Poor Valley Ridge Rose Hill Purchase Ridge Duffield Sandy Ridge Ben Hur Stone Ridge Stickleyville Tanbark Ridge Ben Hur Wallen Ridge Ben Hur

These are cemeteries in Lee Co. from the USGS maps. I have the maps and would be willing to look up a few places. CEMETERY NAME_ _IN DISTRICT_ Anderson Cemetery Kyles Ford Anderson Cemetery Keokee Arnold Cemetery Wheeler Bailey Cemetery Varilla Bailey Cemetery Big Stone Gap Baker Cemetery Keokee Baker Cemetery Pennington Gap Bales Cemetery Rose Hill Ball Cemetery Middlesboro South Ball Cemetery Ewing Barker Cemetery Rose Hill Barron Cemetery Big Stone Gap Bledsoe Cemetery Kyles Ford Botner Grove Cem. Rose Hill Brittain Cemetery Ewing Brooks Cemetery Coleman Gap Brooks Cemetery Coleman Gap Brooks Cemetery Ewing Brooks Cemetery Ewing Burgener Cemetery Kyles Ford Cedar Hill Cem. Rose Hill Chadwell Cemetery Coleman Gap Chances Cemetery Coleman Gap Chandler Cemetery Ben Hur Clarkston Cem. Big Stone Gap Coldiron Cemetery Big Stone Gap Collier Cemetery Big Stone Gap Collier Cemetery Big Stone Gap Collier Cemetery Big Stone Gap Colson Cemetery Wheeler Cooney Cemetery Ben Hur Crockett Cemetery Rose Hill Daugherty Cem. Ben Hur Davis Cemetery Stickleyville Dillman Cemetery Coleman Gap Duff Cemetery Stickleyville Duff Cemetery Duffield Duncan Cemetery Looneys Gap Ealy Cemetery Coleman Gap Edds Cemetery Ewing Eden Cemetery Keokee Ely Cemetery Hubbard Springs Ely Cemetery Ewing Ely Cemetery Keokee Ely Cemetery Ben Hur Ensor Cemetery Wheeler Estep Cemetery Coleman Gap Fannin Cemetery Ben Hur Fannin Cemetery Stickleyville Fee Cemetery Rose Hill Flanary Cemetery Hubbard Springs Fugate Cemetery Coleman Gap Gibson Cemetery Wheeler Gibson Cemetery Wheeler Gibson Cemetery Ewing Gilly Cemetery Big Stone Gap Glass Cemetery Stickleyville Graham Cemetery Ben Hur Graham Cemetery Stickleyville Green Cemetery Ben Hur Greene Cemetery Big Stone Gap Hamblin Cemetery Hubbard Springs Hamblin Cemetery Ben Hur Hickam Cemetery Stickleyville Hill Cemetery Ben Hur Houndshell Cem. Rose Hill Huff Cemetery Stickleyville Hughes Cemetery Keokee Hurd Cemetery Kyles Ford Hyden Cemetery Ben Hur Ingle Cemetery Rose Hill Johnson Cemetery Kyles Ford Johnson Cemetery Looneys Gap Jones Cemetery Wheeler Jones Cemetery Big Stone Gap Kincaid Cemetery Ewing King Cemetery Rose Hill Lambert Cemetery Ben Hur Larmer Cemetery Stickleyville Lawson Cemetery Stickleyville Lawson Cemetery Duffield Lawson Cemetery Big Stone Gap Lee Mem. Gardens Ben Hur Lucas Cemetery Hubbard Springs Marcum Cemetery Kyles Ford McClure Cemetery Hubbard Springs McConnell Cem. Ben Hur McKinley Cemetery Big Stone Gap McLin Cemetery Ewing McPherson Cem Ben Hur Miles Cemetery Stickleyville Miller Chapel Cem Ben Hur Moore Cemetery Looneys Gap Myers Cemetery Pennington Gap Napier Cemetery Pennington Gap Napier Cemetery Big Stone Gap Newberry Cemetery Stickleyville Noe Cemetery Hubbard Springs Odd Fellows Cem Stickleyville Olinger Cemetery Ben Hur Olinger Cemetery Ben Hur Olinger Cemetery Big Stone Gap Osborne Cemetery Kyles Ford Osborne Cemetery Ben Hur Oxford Cemetery Ben Hur Pace Cemetery Rose Hill Parkey Cemetery Ben Hur Parsons Cemetery Kyles Ford Parsons Cemetery Ben Hur Parsons Cemetery Pennington Gap Pennington Cem. Pennington Gap Pennington Cemetery Pennington Gap Peters Cemetery Keokee Peterson Cemetery Big Stone Gap Pillion Cemetery Coleman Gap Pleasant View Cem. Stickleyville Rasnic Cemetery Stickleyville Reasor Cemetery Big Stone Gap Reasor Cemetery Big Stone Gap Reasor Cemetery Big Stone Gap Reasor Cemetery Big Stone Gap Rhoton Cemetery Big Stone Gap Richmond Cemetery Ewing Robinette Cemetery Looneys Gap Robinson Cemetery Kyles Ford Roop Cemetery Ben Hur Rowland Cemetery Ewing Rutherford Cem. Ben Hur Shackelford Cem. Rose Hill Shupe Cemetery Big Stone Gap Slagle Cemetery Ben Hur Slemp Cemetery Big Stone Gap Slemp Cemetery Big Stone Gap Smith Cemetery Coleman Gap Smith Cemetery Ben Hur Spangler Cemetery Hubbard Springs Stanley Cemetery Coleman Gap Sturgil Cemetery Big Stone Gap Surgener Cemetery Rose Hill Sword Cemetery Ben Hur Thomas Cemetery Rose Hill Thomas Cemetery Rose Hill Thompson Cemetery Hubbard Springs Thompson Cemetery Ben Hur Turner Cemetery Pennington Gap Vanderventer Cem. Sneedville Waddell Cemetery Ben Hur Wade Cemetery Big Stone Gap Wampler Cemetery Ben Hur Wampler Cemetery Big Stone Gap Wares Cemetery Coleman Gap Whisman Cemetery Rose Hill Whitteker Cemetery Stickleyville Williams Cemetery Kyles Ford Willis Campbells Duffield Wilson Cemetery Big Stone Gap Woodson Cemetery Wheeler Woodward Cemetery Ben Hur Woodward Cemetery Hubbard Springs Wynn Cemetery Hubbard Springs Wyrick Cemetery Rose Hill Yeary Cemetery Coleman Gap Yeary Cemetery Ewing York Cemetery Ben Hur

Lee Co. Churches from the USGS maps. I have some of the maps if you want a look up. _CHURCH NAME_ _MAP DISTRICT_ Arthur Chapel Ewing Bales Chapel (historical) Rose Hill Ball Chapel Rose Hill Banner Chapel (historical) Stickleyville Beech Grove Church Back Valley Beech Hill Church Pennington Gap Belcher Chapel Pennington Gap Bethel Church Hubbard Springs Big Door Church Ben Hur Blackwater Union Church Kyles Ford Blue Spring Church Stickleyville Bowling Church Ben Hur Burhart Chapel Pennington Gap Calvary Church Keokee Chances Chapel Rose Hill Chattels Station Church Ewing Corinth Church Ben Hur Cumbo Church Rose Hill Davis Chapel Ben Hur Ely Memorial Church Keokee Enon Church Rose Hill Ewing Church Coleman Gap Fairview Church Back Valley Faith Baptist Church Hubbard Springs First Baptist Church Ben Hur First Baptist Church Pennington Gap First Christian Church Pennington Gap First Methodist Church Ben Hur First Methodist Church Pennington Gap Flatwoods Church Hubbard Springs Flower Gap Church Kyles Ford Friendship Church Hubbard Springs Galilee Church Ben Hur Gibson Chapel Big Stone Gap Gilbert Memorial Church Ben Hur Glasses Memorial Church Ben Hur Green Hill Church Keokee Greenleaf Church Sneedville Hardy Creek Church Rose Hill Hoover Chapel Keokee Horton Memorial Ben Hur Hurricane Chapel Hubbard Springs Ingles Chapel Ewing Lambs Chapel Rose Hill Livingston Chapel Stickleyville Lone Branch Church Sneedville Long Ridge Church (historical) Ewing Lower Rose Hill Church Ewing Marble Hill Church Varilla Marions View Church Kyles Ford McClures Chapel Rose Hill McConnell Chapel Ben Hur Meadow Fork Church Pennington Gap Miller Chapel Ben Hur Mount Carmel Church Ewing Mount Carmel Church Ewing Mount Hope Church Ben Hur Mount Merriman Church Sneedville Mount Moriah Church Hubbard Springs Mount Olivet Church Rose Hill Mount View Church Stickleyville Mountain View Church Varilla Osborne Chapel Stickleyville Pine Grove Church Pennington Gap Plain View Church Ben Hur Pleasant Hill Church Hubbard Springs Pleasant View Church Stickleyville Pond View Church Ben Hur Robbins Chapel Keokee Rocklick Church Pennington Gap Roller Chapel Ben Hur Rosedale Church Back Valley Russell Chapel Hubbard Springs Saint Pious Catholic Church Pennington Gap Sarepta Church Kyles Ford Seminary United Methodist Ch. Big Stone Gap Silver Leaf Church Rose Hill Smith Chapel Coleman Gap Smith Chapel Ben Hur Speaks Chapel Rose Hill Station Creek Church Stickleyville Thompson Settlement Church Sneedville Turners Chapel (historical) Hubbard Springs Union Chapel (historical) Rose Hill Union Church Stickleyville Union Hill Church Kyles Ford Valley View Church Keokee Vanhuss Grove Church Back Valley Walnut Hill Church Wheeler Wesley Chapel Hubbard Springs White Shoals Church Rose Hill Willis Chapel Keokee York Church Ben Hur

Lee Co. school names from the USGS maps. _SCHOOL NAME_ _MAP DISTRICT_ Anderson School (historical) Kyles Ford Beech Grove School Back Valley Beech Spring School (historical) Hubbard Springs Belgium School (historical) Pennington Gap Bethel School Hubbard Springs Blackwater School Ben Hur Brooks Hall School (historical) Rose Hill Browns School Coleman Gap Carters Institute (historical) Stickleyville Cedar Front School (historical) Stickleyville Cedar Hill School (historical) Hubbard Springs County Industrial School Ewing Dean School Coleman Gap Deep Spring School (historical) Big Stone Gap Dry School (historical) Keokee Dryden Elementary School Keokee Elijah Knob School Stickleyville Elk Knob Elementary School Stickleyville Elk Knob School (historical) Stickleyville Elydale School Varilla Evergreen School Ewing Flatwoods Elementary School Hubbard Springs Flower Gap School (historical) Kyles Ford Green Hill School (historical) Keokee Hamblin School Hubbard Springs High Top School Rose Hill Holmes School (historical) Keokee Horton School (historical) Rose Hill Hunter Gap School (historical) Ben Hur Jasper School (historical) Big Stone Gap Johnson School (historical) Looneys Gap Jonesville Middle School Ben Hur Keokee Elementary School Keokee Larmer School Stickleyville Laurel Grove School (historical) Stickleyville Lee High School Ben Hur Lone Branch School Sneedville Long Hollow School Ben Hur Long Hollow School (historical) Rose Hill Low Gap School Hubbard Springs Maple Hill School (historical) Hubbard Springs Meadow Fork School (historical) Pennington Gap Midway School Hubbard Springs Miller School (historical) Ben Hur Mohawk School (historical) Keokee Mount Davidson School Back Valley Mount Washington School Sneedville Oak Grove School Ben Hur Pennington Middle School Pennington Gap Pine Grove School (historical) Pennington Gap Pleasant View School (historical) Rose Hill Puckett School (historical) Pennington Gap Robbins Chapel School Keokee Rock Castle School Ben Hur Rocklick School (historical) Pennington Gap Rocky Run School (historical) Ben Hur Rosehill Elementary School Rose Hill Saint Charles Elementary School Pennington Gap Sand Spring School Ben Hur Sarepta School Kyles Ford Seminary School (historical) Big Stone Gap Sproles Chapel School (historical) Middlesboro South Steeprock School (historical) Hubbard Springs Stickleyville Elementary School Stickleyville Tip Top School (historical) Ben Hur Walker School Ewing Walnut Hill School (historical) Wheeler Woodvine School (historical) Varilla York School (historical) Ben Hur

Hollars of Lee Co. _HOLLOW NAME_ _MAP DISTRICT_ Allen Hollow Keokee Ball Hollow Ben Hur Barnes Hollow Wheeler Boggs Hollow Keokee Bowman Hollow Pennington Gap Caney Hollow Hubbard Springs Carroll Hollow Keokee Colliers Cove Keokee Cooper Hollow Pennington Gap Craft Hollow Keokee Crusenberry Hollow Pennington Gap Deirth Hollow Pennington Gap Estep Hollow Coleman Gap Fallin Hollow Stickleyville Garrison Hollow Keokee Holmes Hollow Keokee Keck Hollow Wheeler Kimberland Hollow Stickleyville Kinzer Hollow Hubbard Springs Lewis Hollow Middlesboro South Long Hollow Rose Hill Long Hollow Ben Hur McConnell Hollow Keokee Miller Cove Pennington Gap Old Still Hollow Big Stone Gap Parsons Hollow Keokee Possum Hollow Rose Hill Rasnic Hollow Stickleyville Roberts Hollow Keokee Scott Hollow Rose Hill Smith Hollow Coleman Gap Wheeler Hollow Varilla Whisman Hollow Keokee

Gaps of Lee Co. from the USGS maps. _GAP NAME_ _MAP DISTRICT_ Bow Gap Ben Hur Brierfield Gap Rose Hill Britton Gap Rose Hill Butchers Gap Varilla Chadwell Gap Varilla Cranks Gap Hubbard Springs Cumberland Gap Middlesboro South Dalton Gap Keokee Darty Gap Keokee Deep Gap Benham Ely Gap Ewing Falling Water Gap Rose Hill Fitts Gap Sneedville Flower Gap Kyles Ford Gibsons Gap Varilla Hubbard Gap Hubbard Springs Hubbard Springs Gap Hubbard Springs Hunter Gap Ben Hur Jones Gap Back Valley Lovelady Gap Keokee Low Gap Keokee McLin Notch Ewing McLin Notch Ewing Middleton Gap Rose Hill Morris Gap Keokee Olinger Gap Big Stone Gap Pennington Gap Pennington Gap Scott Gap Keokee Slagle Gap Ben Hur Tip Top Gap Ben Hur Trace Gap Keokee Turkey Cove Gap Big Stone Gap Beech Spring Hubbard Springs Blue Spring Stickleyville Cheek Spring Ben Hur Crockett Spring Ben Hur Spout Spring Hubbard Springs Wake Spring Big Stone Gap

SW_VA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > SW_VA-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 70 > > Today's Topics: > #1 SURNAMES ["George Basden" <gebasden@worldnet] > #2 Unidentified subject! ["zandra s walker" <ZWALKERMBROWN@p] > #3 Re: Burial Practices [dannyf@naxs.com (Danny Freeman)] > #4 Re: Pinto Beans /Correction ["Margie Phelps" <MargiePhelps@worl] > #5 Fwd: Nathanielmand Martha Byars HA [WKelly4901@aol.com] > #6 "Beans of Color" ["Edgar A. Howard" <ehoward@conknet] > #7 Oh Beans! [Bill and Sue McNaught <pp02570@ema] > #8 re last 3 day's emails ["Kathy Bemisdarfer" <bkpr1@netins.] > #9 Re: not exactly genealogy ["Charles E. Starnes" <starnesc@ucs] > #10 uhhh...BEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [DreamSun39@aol.com] > #11 Hicks [Roy Williams <ROYWMS@compuserve.co] > #12 Eddie, Eddie,Eddie [DreamSun39@aol.com] > #13 Beans again... ["S. Henrichsen" <henricsf@casmail.] > #14 beans...beans...and more [scotlandforever@webtv.net (Edward ] > #15 Soup Beans ["James Salyer" <jadds@bellatlantic] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SW_VA-D, send a message to > > SW_VA-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE SPELLING OF THE WORD: UNSUBSCRIBE > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: SURNAMES > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 20:57:33 -0600 > From: "George Basden" <gebasden@worldnet.att.net> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > Researching WILCOX, GRAY, DAVIS, CARICO, CARRICO of SW Virginia > predominately it appears Grayson CO. > > George > gebasden@worldnet.att.net > http://www.basden.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Unidentified subject! > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:52:22 -0600 > From: "zandra s walker" <ZWALKERMBROWN@prodigy.net> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi all, > I have really enjoyed all the talk about leather britches and feather beds > and how about pickled beans my favorate. Without the stories about the > times and the lives of the people, genealogy is nothing but a name and a > date. I had forgotten about my grandmothers beans until ya'll started > talking about them and all the old memories came flooding in. The stories > about the depression have given me new insite into my grandmothers' > personality. > Thanks to all > Zandra > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Burial Practices > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:31:35 -0500 > From: dannyf@naxs.com (Danny Freeman) > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > Not trying to sound morbid, but I work for the Police Dept. here, and we > have dug up a few old graves like those mentioned, and about the only things > found are large skeletal remains. All other bones were gone, and what was > left of the large bones wasn't in the best shape. Just a point of interest. > > Danny Freeman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry A. Overbay <laoverbay@naxs.com> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 6:35 PM > Subject: Burial Practices > > >I'm not an old man but most of the info shared recently, I have > >participated in during my childhood and continue some practices now. > > > >While talking to my Dad, the other day we talked about how cemeteries seem > >to be so much better cared for than they were in the past. With the advent > >of vaults, we no longer see the deely sunken graves that were so common in > >old cemeteries. I can remember, as a child, playing in cemeteries where > >you could lie completely hidden in a sunken grave while playing at soldiers > >or kick the can. > > > >I knew that when the coffins rotted away that naturally the graves would > >collapse but did not realize until Dad told me that when graves were dug > >that just above the level of the casket a shelf was dug on each side and > >boards were laid across the shelf to cover the casket. This further > >contributed to the extreme sunken condition of old graves when that shelf > >also collased. > > > >Also, at the close of the funeral ceremony and in the presence of the > >family, the grave was closed. Men would step into the grave and straddle > >the coffin while shovels of dirt were handed down until the boards were > >completely covered as to not create an unpleasant sound, a further sign of > >respect for the dead and the family. > > > > > > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > >#4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for > help, etc. are > >PROHIBITED on this List. Violators will be promptly locked out. -sysop > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Pinto Beans /Correction > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:43:26 -0600 > From: "Margie Phelps" <MargiePhelps@worldnet.att.net> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > When my Pinto Beans are cooked they are red, not brown unless I am cooking > them to have with Bar-b-que, we even call them "red beans"and they are for > sopping, or covered with onions and tomatoes or even pica deguyo. They are > cooked fro about 4/5 hours real slow in a certian kind of pot ( and they > get really red), adding water (hot) when needed. , and then just the last > few minutes I had butter adn salt. I cook my black eyed peas the same. And > both come out delicous. I also add bacon to the beans while cooking. My > beans and my deviled eggs are very popular in our family and hte > neighborhood. > Margie > -----Original Message----- > From: RENA WORTHEN <doreatr@rbnet.com> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 8:53 PM > Subject: Pinto Beans /Correction > > >Kidney Beans are RED excellent in Chili. > >Pinto beans are brown and white when cooked they are brown. and are eaten > >with Cornbread. Pinto beans is a good source of protein > >Green Beans cooked with new potatos and bacon yummm > > > >Time for a snack.. > > > >---------- > >From: Diane Taylor <djtaylor@puc.edu> > >To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: Green Beans > >Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 7:50 PM > > > >Just another perspective: > > > >In Washington State, where I grew up, the fresh green beans were called > >snap beans or green beans. They were picked green and my grandmother and > >mother used to sit for hours and "snap" (break) them into about > >inch-size pieces to can. They were also sometimes called string beans, I > >assume because of the "string" along the one side that was pulled off > >during the snapping process. > > > >We also raised lima beans (you shelled those) and pinto beans, which > >were indeed, red. > > > >Diane > > > > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > >#3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > >Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > > -sysop > > > > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > >#5 It is YOUR responsibility to know how to SUBSCRIBE & UNSUBSCRIBE. It is > done > >by computer. Put the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message with > nothing > >else. The address is sw_va-l-request@rootsweb.com . or -d- for DIGEST > mode. > >All this is in the Welcome statement I ask you to save. -sysop > > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Fwd: Nathanielmand Martha Byars HARRIS, Again! > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:39:57 EST > From: WKelly4901@aol.com > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --part0_919654797_boundary > Content-ID: <0_919654797@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > --part0_919654797_boundary > Content-ID: <0_919654797@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> > Content-type: message/rfc822 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Content-disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by > air-yd05.mx.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:34:19 > -0500 > Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) > by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id WAA25197; > Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:34:11 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07907; > Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:17:50 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:17:50 -0800 (PST) > From: WKelly4901@aol.com > Message-ID: <53d32116.36d0ce0e@aol.com> > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:25:02 EST > Old-To: HARRIS-VA-L@rootsweb.com > Old-Cc: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Nathanielmand Martha Byars HARRIS, Again! > X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 > Resent-Message-ID: <"MQS1GC.A.b6B.axM02"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> > To: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2395 > X-Loop: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: HARRIS-HUNTERS-L-request@rootsweb.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Dear List, > > I hope you all have not grown weary of my query. Thanks to all who answered my > message. It seems that I should have posted my lines down, complete with > locations before. If I had they would not have been as complete or as > together as now. > > Nathaniel Harris and Martha Byars were ma. on May 29, 1788, now this is the > same day that their baby daughter, Polly (b. Apr. 1, 1788) was baptized. > Their wedding date is recorded in "Thomasson Traces", "History of Louisa" and > "The Douglas Register." I have found in my research that Nathan and Nathaniel > were names that were used interchangeably. In 1792 I have record of a deed > conveying land from Nathaniel and Martha to Dudley P. Ellis "...in Louisa on > Gideon's line." The record of Nathaniel's death in Smyth Co., VA indicates > he was a Junior. He died 1854 and the age at death (91) indicates he was born > Jan. 20, 1763. He served in the VA Continental Army and guarded prisoners. > He received a pension at age 58. Martha and Nathaniel lived in KY for a short > time because one of their children was born their. By 1810 they were in > Washington Co. in a location that became Smyth Co. (My grandmother was born in > Seven Mile Ford. Smyth Co. is the location of "Hungry Mother Mountain". > Nathaniel and Martha's Children: > > Polly b. Apr. 1, 1788 > > Garrett b. Feb. 19 1792 M. Elizabeth Halfacre (I have more about them and a > contact or two if any one wants more). > > John Harris (no information) > > Susan b. Jun 1, 1796 m. Zadock Sexton. I do not have their children at this > time but I think I can get it. > > James b. about 1797 in KY. m. Nancy Heninger (they were on the 1750 census > with children Alfred b. 1830, NATHAN b. 1832 and Louisa b. 1843. No other > information at this time. However I may be able to get more). > > NATHAN b. about 1798 or '99 m. Rachel Cowden and in 1850 they had one child > James b. 1835. When Martha died, Old Nathaniel lived with them. > > NATHANIEL (3RD?) b. 1801 m. Mary Morris (This is my line and as their are so > MANY Nathan's and Nathaniel's you can see why I might believe their is a > connection to Nathaniel and Catherine Walton HARRIS. However with the > response I have receive these last two days, it can't be) > Children of Nathaniel and Mary Morris HARRIS: > > George Epperson HARRIS b. 1824 m. Mary J. Anderson > Children: Alonzo N. Harris b. 1855 > Margaret H. Harris b. 1856 > John H. Harris b. 1858 > Lelia J. Harris b. 1859 > James Augustus HARRIS m. 1st Martha Jane Patrick 2nd Margaret M. Patrick ( I > Have more about their descendants, please ask). > > William C. HARRIS m. Sarah Hazelett and moved to Indiana (I have some > information, but not much) > > Henry C. HARRIS m. Fannie Fry and moved to Indiana (I have very little about > them) > > NATHANIEL John HARRIS m. Sarah Ann Copenhaver (Again I have some but not > much.) > > John Thomas HARRIS m. Rachel Caroline Porter (these are my g-grandparents who > move to Iowa in 1885 or so. I have tons on them, including pictures and a > memoirs of the civil war from J.T. himself. I have just found two second > cousins who I found because they were stuck at John Thomas Harris) I have some > other Unrelated Iowa Harrises that I would be glad to share. > > Alfred J. HARRIS b. 1840 m. Mary Elizabeth Box (no other info) > > Susannah J. HARRIS b. 1842 not married. > > Mary C. HARRIS b. 1844 m. George Fog Wolfe (no other info) > > Now, the 1850 Census of Smyth has some other Harrises who I have not yet > identified. It seems that they could have all come to Washington Smyth at the > same time. > > 1. Lysander age 21 > > 2. Thomas age 62 and his wife Mary age 52. Children Martha A. age 24; Emily > B. age 19; Hiram A. age 15; Walter L. age 13; Rees T age 11; and William H. > age 9. > > 3. Henry and Lucinda Chapman Harris both age 40 with children, Mary E. age > 15; Nancy age 13; Susan age 11; John age 9; Helen age 7; NATHAN age 5: and > Henry T. age 1. The child Nathan is a clue to me that they may be related to > my line. > > 4. Lilburn H. age 31 and Phebe age 28 and children Mary Elizabeth age 8; > Rebecca Jane age 5; William A. age 3; and Anna or Hannah Caroline age 1. > Someone working on this line has more information than I do. The birth, > death, deed and will records are in good shape in Smyth. > > 5. Mary HARRIS AGE 22 > > I also have a Benjamin HARRIS who was deeded land in 1799 in Washington Co. I > have not found him later. > > If this is helpful to anyone and I can provide more I will be very happy. If > anyone is searching any of these lines and has more, lets share. I will be > looking for more information about the "unidentified but who are possibly > related" group. If any of you know more about them let me know the may give > me a clue about the origin of "Old Nathaniel Jr. from Louisa. > > Cheers, > Wilma Kelly > Wkelly4901@aol.com > > > --part0_919654797_boundary-- > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: "Beans of Color" > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:22:10 -0500 > From: "Edgar A. Howard" <ehoward@conknet.com> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > I think you are all full of beans. <g> > > Pinto are not red. Red beans are red. Pinto are speckled with dry > and brown. We called them Pintos, brown beans, or soup beans. > Some people call the white, or Navy beans, soup beans too. In S. CA. > they were called something else. I think cramberry beans. The > Mexicans eat them like crazy. > Have you heard of October beans? Are they different from pintos?? > > I think it is time to move on to another course in this meal. > > Did any of your people make cheese?? We made cottage cheeze. > -eddie > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Oh Beans! > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 00:01:58 -0500 > From: Bill and Sue McNaught <pp02570@email.kcc.edu> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > In Shreveport I ate red beans (with rice). In Miami I ate black beans > (also with rice). In Houston I ate kidney beans in chilli and brown beans > with cornbread. In Detroit I ate white Northern (also called Navy) beans > with cornbread and the cornbread had SUGAR in it. :-( Here in Kentucky > when the menu says "Soup Beans and C/B" you can bet it will be brown > pintos cooked for hours and served with chopped onions. Accompaniments are > usually fried potatoes, sauerkrout or a green tomato relish. > To the writer who had never heard of green beans: What do the labels in > your grocery say? My Stokely and Del Monte labels don't say snap or > string, but they do say Green Beans. > > Sue McN. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: re last 3 day's emails > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:00:10 -0600 > From: "Kathy Bemisdarfer" <bkpr1@netins.net> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > I just got home after being gone for 3 days, Had 101 E-mails. But loved > everyone of them. > I am only 46 years old, but do remember my Grandmother feather bed, Shuck > Beans, (or Leather Britches) I even help to string the Green Beans on the > heavy twin and got my fingers stuck many time. > I had forgotten about taking the broom to smooth at the feather bed. It > came back to me as soon as I > read the story of making the bed. Now we called the bacon that you put in > the Pinto Beans, Fat Back. > To those of you who do not know what that is, It is Salt cured pork. > Thanks for all the stories, it makes > me Homesick. I live in the Midwest now. > > I am Researching on Davis, Vance, Horn, 2-Lester sides, Webbs, Baker's, > Mullins, Stewarts, Rife's, > Peaks, These Names reach from Wise Co., VA, to Buchanan Co., VA, Letcher > Co., Ky and then into > Southern WV. > Kathy > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: not exactly genealogy > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:13:01 -0800 > From: "Charles E. Starnes" <starnesc@ucs.orst.edu> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > My roots run deep into the mountains of TN, GA, SC, NC, and VA. But > they also include some fine Yankee people. I love southern food but I > readily eat northern and western food too. I even eat food that comes > from other Non-American cultures. > > My ancestors fought on both sides in the Civil War, War Between the > States, War for States Rights, War to Preserve/Abolish Slavery.... > In one of my NC families, twin brothers fought on opposite sides! > I've voted for Dwight Eisenhower and John Kennedy. I've met Ronald > Reagan and Bobby Kennedy and I don't think Ronnie was a fascist nor > Bobby was a socialist. > > But maybe I am just a "poor dumb Hick". After all, I grew up poor and > my great grandmother was a Hicks. Though, as I recall, SHE wasn't dumb > at all! > > Now if you would like to help me with my genealogy problems..... > How about helping me find where and to what parents my ggg-grandparents, > John STARNES and Sarah Jane ADAMS were born, somewhere in SW VA around > 1775? > > Lots of <g>'s so nobody takes offense! > > Charles Ed Starnes > > "Edgar A. Howard" wrote: > > > > << the movie OCTOBER SKY > > > > If we are treated fairly, yes, I want to see it. Even TN Williams, > > and Falkner made us look nuts and wild.<g> > > > > That was Bobby Kennedy trying to sell socialism because us > > dumb hicks were so poor. Have you eat yankee food or food in CA?? I > > won't feed my dog that stuff. As others have said, we had the best > > cooks in the world. If my mother had raised those Kennedy boys they > > would have been better presidients, and men.<g.> > > -eddie > > > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > > #9 As of 2/7/1999 we have 475 members. Traffic can get heavy so check your > > mailbox often. We should regulate traffic so it don't get out of hand. > > There is an average of ten members coming and going each week. > > -sysop > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: uhhh...BEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:19:04 EST > From: DreamSun39@aol.com > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > Beans by any other name tastes as sweet! > > My 2 cents worth..you are all right! Having lived in several areas of the > US..I can say with some authority that.....Pintos beans are not the same beans > everywhere you go..for example..habichuelos rosadas (red beans) are also > called pintos in some > area of the Southwest....being from SW Virginia the pintos here are speckled > two shades of brown..turn brownish red when cooked....Eddie..please tell me > you are not serious about your remarks regarding CA food...I'd rather think > you are open minded enough to realize that he "melting pot" of this country > contains yes....all kinds of beans! I'm hoping you are just using your good > sense of humor to "stir" the pot a little? Or is it true what they say about > us hicks being narrow minded? > > Deborah Shelton Wood > soon to be ex-ed from the list? > oops! did I spill the beans? > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Hicks > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:19:38 -0500 > From: Roy Williams <ROYWMS@compuserve.com> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > >But maybe I am just a "poor dumb Hick". After all, I grew up poor and > my great grandmother was a Hicks. Though, as I recall, SHE wasn't dumb > at all!< > Charles,Wondering if your Hicks and my Hicks are connected? My GGGM was > Elizabeth Hicks d/o William & Elizabeth Hicks. William was the s/o John > Hicks a Rev War vet b 1759 in Henrico Co Va. He died in Hw Co Tn 1840. > Roy/Ala > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Eddie, Eddie,Eddie > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:26:51 EST > From: DreamSun39@aol.com > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > Well Eddie we knock heads again....thansk for responding to my private email > to you on the list! Eddie: I am under 40....and...as you said many people > form all over subscribe to this list...not everyone celebrates Sabbath on > Sundays...sorry if I bored you! PS.Yes this is a FLAME. > Deborah Shelton Wood > your msg below: > Date sent: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:43:17 EST > To: ehoward@conknet.com > Subject: Re: Beans & beds > > <<Please tell me you are kidding? > > When I ask for clarification of the terms it was not for myself. > Remember that I speak for the List and not just myself. I know what a > feather tick is. We never dried green beans, we canned them. Why > would someone dry what they could can?? > > Remember that there are 500 people out there when you post. > > Please be mindful in several ways. > > 1) Don't bore people. > > 2) Most of those 500 people didn't grow up in YOUR home, or town , > or state. Some may even be under 40 years old and don't recall the > olden days. God forbid they may have had to grow up in the city. > > 3) Define terms that are not heard on the TV. There is nothing more > boring than reading something you don't understand. This List is not > here for a few people to chat but to help EVERYONE. > > 4) These discussions of the old ways are very interesting, > entertaining, and helpful but please restrain yourself from telling old > family stories that convey no historic or genealogical info. > > Thank you all and good Sabbath. > -sysop > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Beans again... > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:39:17 -0500 > From: "S. Henrichsen" <henricsf@casmail.muohio.edu> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > As a kid, when we had to snap beans on the back porch, I remember sometimes > the whole family would get involved. My Dad, who is a tease, used to > always comment on a bean that was hard to "string"... > > Dad would say, "That's a tough one." > We'd ask: "What's tough?" > Dad: "Life." > We'd ask: "What's Life?" > Dad: "A magazine." > We'd ask: "How much it cost?" > Dad: "50 cents." > We'd say: "Haven't got 50 cents." > Dad: "That's tough..." > > Anyway, you get the idea. One of us would always chime in and play the > game. Sometimes we'd go round and round with it while we were snapping > those beans. And there always was at least a bushel of them it seemed. > I'm sure my Dad was probably trying to make the work seem less tedious. > > Mostly though, it was an opportunity for our parents to talk about the old > times, the stories, and the people they used to know. It was at times like > this that I learned the names of great and great great grandparents, > uncles, aunts, etc. Oral history is a lost art. When I take my kids to > see their grandparents today, I encourage my parents to tell the stories so > that my children can hear them. We seldom have the television on at > Grampa's. > > Next time I'll tell you about my Granny threatening us that she'd sew us up > with purple thread... > > Cheers! This is the most enjoyable list! > > S. Henrichsen > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: beans...beans...and more > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:29:59 -0500 (EST) > From: scotlandforever@webtv.net (Edward Boggs) > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > If I hear any more 'bout beans, I think I may not eat them > anymore.....and I may cough up a few feathers! (just light-hearted > humor guys.) I thought this was a genealogy linked chat. I agree, let get back to Geneology and forget the beans and featherbeds. > > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Soup Beans > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:50:23 -0500 > From: "James Salyer" <jadds@bellatlantic.net> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > > Well, I don't cook soup beans myself . But I do love them. I buy Luck's > Beans in the can and they are the closest to home cooked as you can get, but > I'm not used to the fatback in them. I am not an expert on beans but I have > made the following observations: Soup beans to my family is October beans > the bag of dry beans says Cranberry beans). Occasionally, we have white > beans, Great Northern beans on the bag. Then there is Navy beans. Navy > beans are smaller than Great Northern beans and Navy beans are used by my > family for pork and beans and baked beans. > > I've enjoyed the discussions on family traditions. > > Searching: KENT, CLARK, TOLBERT, CATES, BOUTON, BOND & others > > Thanks, > Angie > jadds@bellatlantic.net

Hey! all you bean eaters Dried pinto beans are speckled, white and brown. When cooked, they turn a deep red or perhaps some would say brown. Dried cranberry beans are very much like the pinto, except they are a little larger and not as "gassy". They have a better flavor and are preferred by some over the pinto. Eddie, pinto and cranberry beans are of different varieties. Both go under the generic name of soup beans. October beans is another variety, generally allowed to dry on the vine, thrashed and used like soup beans. Any dried bean may be used in soup. Some are preferred to others. At 11:22 PM 2/21/99 -0500, Edgar A. Howard wrote: > I think you are all full of beans. <g> > > Pinto are not red. Red beans are red. Pinto are speckled with dry >and brown. We called them Pintos, brown beans, or soup beans. >Some people call the white, or Navy beans, soup beans too. In S. CA. >they were called something else. I think cramberry beans. The >Mexicans eat them like crazy. >Have you heard of October beans? Are they different from pintos?? > > I think it is time to move on to another course in this meal. > > Did any of your people make cheese?? We made cottage cheeze. >-eddie > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#2 A large database of SURNAMES and the researcher's email address can be found at >http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/quarrybank/194/swabc.htm >You may have your SURNAMES included by posting them and your address to the >LIST and NOT to the sysop/owner. > David. M. Burke deburgh@scescape.net

Hi Antoinette, Eddie, and Hungry Researchers, My genealogy quest is half way down this note...so please don't delete yet! Creamed corn! That sounds good! Have made it with jalapeno peppers also......gives it nice Zing! Zippety Do Dah! LOL ....Ouch, no laughing allowed in my house this week! You all have brightened my day but it is back to bed for me. Have to rest my cracked ribs. We were taught not to run in the halls in school. Something we should all remember, but if you do and it is dark.......take the time to turn the lights on!!! Will have to try the creamed corn. Sounds like a mix of corn bread and hush puppies. I make hush puppies with corn in them. Ooooh Yummy! Okay, genealogy. These Ferrells below are my grandmother's people. I am having the darndest time finding info on them. Doesn't anyone have one of these people in their family? Benjamin Banks Ferrell (might have been born around 1850 ???) married Emma (Emily?) Mozier/Mosier Children: Don't know exact order of children. 1. Charlie 2. Morgan married Ellie 3. Jenny married Tom Lovell 4. Rinda (Rindy) married J. D. Carroll 5. Maude married Tom Moore 6. Bunie 7. Julie 8. Franie married Lawrence Fleenor 9. Jessie Leroy (Jessie Lee) married Effie May Roller (Rollers were also from Scott Co., VA). Jessie was born 26 Nov 1878 Fairview, Scott Co., VA and died 26 Apr 1956 in Norton, VA. Jessie Lee Ferrell and Effie May had my grandmother, Golden Faye Ferrell. I have the brothers & sisters of Golden and dates for them. I am also searching for these Ferrells in NC/TN/KY & WV. I am open to any and all suggestions and help. My best, Rebecca Researching in NC-VA-WV: BAILEY*BLACKBURN*BLANKENSHIP*BROOKS BROWN*CEYPHERS*CLANCY*COPENHAVER*COX FERRELL*GOODE*HARDY*LILLY*LOCKE*MALLERY MEADOR*MENDENHALL*MOODY*MOSIER*NAPIER PITTMAN*RAGLAND*ROLLER*SHUPE*SLEMP*SMITH STEELE*TUCKER*WHISMAN

People used to have "Bean Stringins" here in the mountains of Southwest Va. and when my father was a teenager and wanting to meet girls, a woman in the neighborhood convinced him and some more boys that there would be a lot of pretty girls at the bean stringin' at her house, so they went, with high expectations, but there were no girls there, only "old" women..The women wouldn't let them leave until they had finished stringing four bushels of beans! My Dad never strung another bean the rest of his life! He died at 91 years..and never forgot that!! G. Lee Hearl Ye Ole Storyteller Abingdon, Va...

I make cornbread with cream corn and jalapeno peppers. There's that Mexican taste again!!! And it delicious with any kind of bowl of beans with ketchup & diced onions to boot. Antoinette Rebecca wrote: > Hi Tom & Sue, > > <My grandmother said no self-respecting southern > <cook would put sugar in corn bread. > > My grandmother put a little molasses in the corn bread. Maybe that is where > they got the sugar idea on the corn meal packs. > > Course, I think my grandmother thought molasses was a healer for everything. > > Rebecca > Sonoma Co., CA > > Researching in NC-VA-WV: > BAILEY*BLACKBURN*BLANKENSHIP*BROOKS > BROWN*CEYPHERS*CLANCY*COPENHAVER*COX > FERRELL*GOODE*HARDY*LILLY*LOCKE*MALLERY > MEADOR*MENDENHALL*MOODY*MOSIER*NAPIER > PITTMAN*RAGLAND*ROLLER*SHUPE*SLEMP*SMITH > STEELE*TUCKER*WHISMAN > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #7 "Roll Calls" or such by other names are to be called > by the SYSOP ONLY. NO WARNINGS!! Each member is free to post their > SURNAMES anytime they please. -- Researching: Alkire, Breckenridge, Burton, Cann, Claypool(e), Denton, Daugherty, Dunbar, Evans, Gorrell, Hagan, Jimenez, Keel, Keith, Kern/es, Ladner, Lawler, Leffler, Littell, Merrifield, Norris, Pettyjohn, Ponsler, Robertson, Robinson, Rogers, Sinex, Sinnickson, Stiddem/Stidham, Tossawa/Tussey, Vantreese, Wachtel/Waughtel, Walker, White, Wilcox, Winfield

Hi Tom & Sue, <My grandmother said no self-respecting southern <cook would put sugar in corn bread. My grandmother put a little molasses in the corn bread. Maybe that is where they got the sugar idea on the corn meal packs. Course, I think my grandmother thought molasses was a healer for everything. Rebecca Sonoma Co., CA Researching in NC-VA-WV: BAILEY*BLACKBURN*BLANKENSHIP*BROOKS BROWN*CEYPHERS*CLANCY*COPENHAVER*COX FERRELL*GOODE*HARDY*LILLY*LOCKE*MALLERY MEADOR*MENDENHALL*MOODY*MOSIER*NAPIER PITTMAN*RAGLAND*ROLLER*SHUPE*SLEMP*SMITH STEELE*TUCKER*WHISMAN

Hey, Sue McN -- You're right on. My Stokely and Del Monte cans say "green beans," too, but those 'Yankee processors have to use the most common, or northern, terminology. They can be trendy, if they wan to, and call chick peas "garbanzos" and corn meal mush "polenta," but that don't make it so, at least not for me. Imagine asking your Old South gramma for some polenta! And you're right about corn bread, too. My grandmother said no self-respecting southern cook would put sugar in corn bread. BUT, when you buy a box of cornmeal, the recipe on the side tells you to add it. What does that tell you? My point was that our language is becoming homogenized and we're losing our regionalisms. Look at the commodities market: Sow bellies became pork bellies because "sow" was PI. Next, they'll be calling them pork tummies 'cause "belly" is so crude (not to me). I'm on about 30 mail lists, and this is the only one with such a great membership. Almost everyone has such a good sense of humor (even our sysop!). The other lists are soooooo dry. By the way (just to keep things kosher), I've about given up on my SW ancestors. (Only the stories keep me subscribing.< g >) I've listed these before, but in case there's someone new on the list, can anyone help me with the following? 1. Mahlon SCOTT, b. about 1803, m. Elizabeth Anderson 1 Feb 1821, Washington Co., VA. I have no parents for either. 2. Sarah Brown SCOTT, b. abt 1801, m. Harbert SHELTON 6 Jan 1825, Patrick Co., VA. I have no parents for Sarah. Best wishes to you all, Tom Robertson Escondido, CA -------- >From Sue McN: > In Shreveport I ate red beans (with rice). In Miami I ate black > beans (also with rice). In Houston I ate kidney beans in chilli and > brown beans with cornbread. In Detroit I ate white Northern (also > calledNavy) beans with cornbread and the cornbread had SUGAR in it. > :-( Here in Kentucky when the menu says "Soup Beans and C/B" you can > bet it will be brown pintos cooked for hours and served with chopped > onions. Accompaniments are usually fried potatoes, sauerkrout or a > green tomato relish. > To the writer who had never heard of green beans: What do the > labels in your grocery say? My Stokely and Del Monte labels don't say > snap or string, but they do say Green Beans. > > Sue McN.