I dont know how many son's Boone had, but one of them was killed in Lee county by indians, they were next to a creek. Danny -----Original Message----- From: Pat Oneal <peon@icx.net> To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:50 PM Subject: Daniel Boone Story >Mr. Hearl, > I've learned more history on this website than I ever absorbed in >school. Guess age has something to do with it. Nice story, but you didn't >mention the death of Daniel Boone's son in Lee County, Va, in 1773. > Pat > > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#2 A large database of SURNAMES and the researcher's email address can be found at >http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/quarrybank/194/swabc.htm >You may have your SURNAMES included by posting them and your address to the >LIST and NOT to the sysop/owner. > >

Pat, I have heard two versions of the death of Boones' son and didn't mention it because I didn't want to start an argument about it! Also, I was concerned about the length of my post to the list.. The version I tend to believe is in "Daniel Boone" by Bakeless..In it he says Boone got a lot of supplies from William Russell on the Clinch river but after reaching the Powell Valley, Boone sent his son and another man back to Russells to get some more things they might need..Russell sent his son and a Negro with them as they went back to Boones party..They got within three miles of Boones camp and decided to stop and camp for the night..They were attacked by Indians and all were killed except the Negro who hid.. When his son and the Negro didn't return, William Russell set out to see if they were alright and he found them dead..Daniel Boone had also setout looking for them and came upon them a bit later..He buried his son and went back to the party in Powell Valley. That's when they decided against proceeding on to Ky at that time... G. Lee Hearl...

Edward Boggs raises a good question. The time frame is probably crucial to the answer. As for genealogy, my time frame for this question is roughly 1760-1800. I can't seem to make the crucial family links because my line shows up with varied surname spelling (STARN, STERN, STARNS, STERNS, STARNES) in various counties in the area connecting VA, TN, KY, NC, and SC. This is further complicated by the shifting names of locales as new states and counties were being formed. In part, the moving about in this period may be explained by a combination of people seeking to safety in the conflicts with Native Indians and seeking new opportunities as new settlement areas opened up or they received land grants. In any case, it really makes tracing a family line difficult sometimes. Indeed, I just yesterday ran into a new twist in my efforts to find the parents of my ggg-gf John STARNES. He has been variously reported by descendants (without documentation) as born in VA, NC, and SC. However, I just checked the 1860 Mortality Census for Hawkins Co., TN, where he died on Dec. 16, 1859, and found that it lists him as born in KY. Now I have to shift gears and start looking in KY for his parents! But, since it lists him as born in 1776, KY was not yet a state at that time. It was, in fact, still a part of VA. So I can't stop looking in VA either! Of course, since this info was from the Mortality Census it wasn't he who gave the information! So, I can't yet be sure that KY is the correct place of birth! You are so right E.G.! Charles Ed Starnes Edward Boggs wrote: > > Why is it I seem to find so many families such as mine seemed to have > moved back and forth between counties in Va. and Ky. It seems a lot of > families would have stayed basically in the same area for a while. I > think this is why it makes it hard to sometimes trace a family line. > e.g.boggs > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #3 Support the fight against unrequested junk e-mail (SPAM). > Visit the webpage at: http://www.cauce.org/ > -sysop

Mr. Hearl, I've learned more history on this website than I ever absorbed in school. Guess age has something to do with it. Nice story, but you didn't mention the death of Daniel Boone's son in Lee County, Va, in 1773. Pat

Regarding people moving back and forth between Va. and Ky: During the period 1770 to 1800 many people went or started to Kentucky and returned to safer areas because of the Indian attacks on cabins and forts. Daniel Boone started with a party from N.C. and Va. in 1773 hoping to settle in Kentucky but they were attacked in Powell Valley and turned back..They were driving cattle and the Indians scattered them and killed several in the party..Many of them not only returned to Va., but went back across the Blue Ridge Mountain to N.C.. Later, Harrod and some others established settlements in Ky. but all of them were harassed by Indians and many returned to Va.. Boone and his axmen cleared a path and Henderson led a group through Cumberland Gap in 1775 to settle in Ky and as they were going they met many people who had seen enough and were returning to Va. Benjamin Logan also established a fort and took settlers to Ky in 1775..All of the Forts were attacked causing the fainthearted to pack up and leave but some who were in charge of the Forts managed to keep their parties together.. Boones fort had to be abandoned at times because they did not have enough men and ammunition to defend it...Once when Boone took a group of men to the salt springs to make salt in the winter, he managed to get all of them captured by the Indians, including himself..When he returned about six months later, his wife had given up and thinking he had been killed, took her children and returned to N.C...No doubt, there were others who returned with her..Reuben Herrall and Rebecca, his wife and several of their children left the New river area of Montgomery County, Va and went to Ky but Reuben and Rebecca returned to Washington County, Va. where he died, but Rebcca went back to Ky and died there...Some of their children and decendents moved on to Arkansas..I don't know why Reuben returned to Va., it wasn't because he was fainthearted, he was known as an Indian fighter and was in the Battle of Kings Mountain.. G. Lee Hearl....

I remember my mother telling me this: She said years ago one of our neighbors, Oscar Davis, was a lay preacher and his wife had just died. First thing you know, Oscar had him a new girlfriend. One day a church deacon approached him and said, "Preacher, don't you think it's a little soon for you to be courtin? Your wife just died two months ago." Oscar replied, "Well, the way I see it--Ethel's as dead as she'll ever be!" Pat

This one has been passed around our family for more years than I care to remember.... It's a true story (names have been ommitted).. There once was an old country gentleman who had to make his first trip to the hospital... well the time finally came when the nurse entered the room and said "Well, Mr. ________ it's now time for me to give you your bath." Now the old gentleman could see he was in a bit of a spot here so he said to the nurse," Well, I'll tell you what, you can wash down as far as possible, and you can wash up as far as possible, but I'll wash "Ole Possible"...<g> <g> Thought you might get a little giggle and a smile from this one... Pam

I work with the Lee line. I think the Robert E. Lee's have them all beat. Mary

Edgar, My maps arrived today, too. They are great. Thanks so much and good luck on your move to Narrows! Gloria D.

I see more Thomas Jefferson and George Washington than anyone else. The nickname "Wash" was given to some of the latter. Let's not forget the ladies, folks. How many Martha "Patsy"s have you seen? That was for Martha Washington whose nickname was Patsy. (Martha) Sue McN.

I've heard that some Virginians went to Kentucky to escape conscription by the Confederate Army. If the timing of the moves coincide with the WBTS, this might be a good guess. Sue

I have in my TN & VA families:- James Polk - two Thomas Jefferson - three Napoleon Bonaparte - one Andrew Jackson - one Mike Becker >Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:57:59 -0500 >From: "Edgar A. Howard" <ehoward@conknet.com> >To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <19990302020057101.AAG211@harriett.conknet.com@swvaroot> >Subject: Re: Naming Traditions >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > I have seen the great other post. Tough act to follow. >It seems that nearly everyone was _named for_ someone. My mother >had the middle name of a neighbor surname of which there was no >relation. In the 1820's HIRAMs sprang up in Wash. Co. Like there >was a shortage of names. William, James, John, Thomas. > > While we are on the subject; who was the most named after >person in the 19th century?? I VOTE FOR ANDREW JACKSON! >And he deserved it. >-eddie

Eddie: the maps arrived here in Northern California in today's mail. They are wonderful!! I haven't had a chance to really "study" them yet, but what I saw, I thought was great!! I can hardly wait to share them with my daughter in So. CA. Thanks again, Diane

Subject: Re: Scott Co map Eddie, I got the map today. WOW!! It is much larger and much more detailed than I thought it would be. Great job!! Thanks so much for doing this! Mary South msouth@ic.net Feminism AIN'T ladylike

In a message dated 3/1/99 12:23:44 PM EST, scotlandforever@webtv.net writes: << Is anyone familiar with a place called "POOR FORK" in either eastern Ky. or SW Va. ? >> Southeastern KY has the Poor Fork of the Cumberland River in Harlan and Letcher Counties; a Poor Fork stream in Pike County; and the community of Poor Fork in early Harlan County. The streams can be located at: Geographic Names Information System, United States and Territories <A HREF="http://www- nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html ">http://www- nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html</A> Harlan County has a RootsWeb mail list archives which can be searched at: <A HREF="http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl"> http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl</A> Enter list name: KYHARLAN Then enter search query (Poor Fork, surname, or whatever you're looking for) and select the year to search. New Members of SW_VA-L: The same URL can be used to search the archives of previous mail of this list. Enter list name: SW_VA and continue as above.

>Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:47:16 -0800 (PST) >From: "G. Lee Hearl" <glh@naxs.com> >What is a Rowlett Wheel? >G.L.H. > >IT'S A PUN.....THE LOWEST FORM OF HUMOR. SORRY. Sue >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#6 HELP is available from the sysop/owner anytime at: > ehoward@conknet.com or swvaroot@swva.net >

At least a part of the reason that families moved back and forth between VA and KY, may have been that they were Melungeons. I am pasting a copy of the common Melungeon surnames to this post. If any one of your families is in this list, I will be glad to send via e-mail and FREE, information on the Melungeons, including; background, physical characteristics, some URLs, mailing lists, and some medical information on inherited illnesses which descendants need to know about. I hope this will be useful. Nancy S Common Melungeon Surname List: North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia ADAMS ADKINS ALLEN ALLMOND ASHWORTH * BARKER BARNES BASS BECKLER BELCHER BEDGOOD BELL BENNETT BERRY BEVERLY BIGGS BOLEN BOLLING BOLTON BOONE BOWLIN BOWLING BOWMAN BRADBY BRANHAM BRAVBOY BRIGER/BRIDGER BROGAN BROOKS BROWN BUNCH BULLION BURTON BUTLER BUTTERS BUXTON BYRD * CAMPBELL CARRICO CARTER CASTEEL CAUDILL CHAPMAN CHAVIS CLARK CLOUD COAL COFFEY COLE COLEMAN COLES COLLEY COLLIER COLLINS COLLINSWORTH COLYER COOPER CORMAN COUNTS COX COXE CRIEL CROSTON CROW CUMBA CUMBO CUMBOW CURRY CUSTALOW * DALTON DARE DAVIS DENHAM DENNIS DIAL DOOLEY DORTON DOYLE DRIGGERS DULA DYE DYESS * ELY EPPS EVANS * FIELDS FREEMAN FRENCH * GALLAGHER GANN GARLAND GIBSON GIPSON GOINS GOINGS GORVENS GOWAN GOWEN GRAHAM GREEN(E) GWINN * HALL HAMMON(D) HARMON HARRIS HARVIE HARVEY HAWKES HENDRICKS HENDRIX HILL HILLMAN HOGGE HOLMES HOPKINS HOWE HYATT * JACKSON JAMES JOHNSON JONES * KEITH(E) KENNEDY KISER * LANGSTON LASIE LAWSON LOCKLEAR LOPES LOWRY LUCAS * MADDOX MAGGARD MAJOR MALE MALONE(Y) MARSH MARTIN MAYLE MINARD MINER MINOR MIZER MOORE MORLEY MOSELY MOZINGO MULLINS * NASH NELSON NEWMAN NICCANS NICHOLS NOEL NORRIS * ORR OSBORN OSBORNE OXENDINE * PAGE PAINE PATTERSON PERKINS PERRY PHELPS PHIPPS PRINDER POLLY POWELL POWERS PRITCHARD PRUITT * RAMEY RASNICK REAVES REVELS REEVES RICE RICHARDSON RIDDLE RIVERS ROBERSON ROBERTSON ROBINSON RUSSELL * SAMMONS SAMPSON SAWYER SCOTT SEXTON SHAVIS SHEPHARD SHEPHERD SHORT SHORTT SIZEMORE SMILING SMITH STALLARD STANLEY STEEL STEVENS STEWART STROTHER SWEATT SWETT SWINDALL * TALLY TACKETT TAYLOR THOMPSON TIPTON TOLLIVER TUPPANCE TURNER * VANOVER VICARS VICCARS VICKERS * WARE WATTS WEAVER WHITE WHITED WILKINS WILLIAMS WILLIAMSON WILLIS WILSON WISBY WISE WOOD WRIGHT WYATT WYNN

I'm moving and don't have time to answer questions about the maps. I will post something next month after I have completed my move. Thanks. -eddie Hi, Somehow I missed something.....are these old maps? How did you get them? Would love to hear more about them. Pat Smith ---------- > From: Edgar A. Howard <ehoward@conknet.com> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Maps Arrived > Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 8:52 AM > > I hope Nancy don't mind me forwarding this. > -eddie > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: FamileeMom@aol.com > Date sent: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 00:14:30 EST > To: ehoward@conknet.com > Subject: Re: (Fwd) Maps Arrived > > Eddie, > Maps arrived way over here in California > today ! I ordered Montgomery and Washington Counties. I love um ! I even > found some of my ancestors there! Thanks ! Nancy Brown > Feminism AIN'T ladylike > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #9 As of 2/27/1999 we have 485 members. Traffic can get heavy so check your > mailbox often. We should regulate traffic so it don't get out of hand. > There is an average of ten members coming and going each week. > -sysop > Feminism AIN'T ladylike

What is a Rowlett Wheel? G.L.H.

Recieved mine today (TUESDAY) Thanks Eddie Elizabeth