Pioneers clothing: Sorry, this is rather long, but I think you'll find it interesting. Not only did immigrants make clothing from wool (linsey wool), but cotton goes back to 1607 in the US. The early explorers to the new world first saw cotton growing in the West Indies. Southerners went from growing tobacco and rice to growing cotton, due to Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793. Don't forget that due to the spreading of slavery in the south, cotton brought about the Civil War. Cotton is still one of the most valuable agricultural products in the US. Remember those LOOMs we discussed? Here again, was what the looms were used for. There's nothing like those good old cotton rag rugs that are washable. Several years ago I purchased one at an antique show in Michigan that was 3-1/2 X 13-1/2 feet long. Carried it home on the plane. My neighbor has one that is long enough for a hall runner and would cover a long flight of stairs--unbelievable!! I saw it being aired on the clothesline one day. It covered one clothesline and went back up another. Cotton is one of the reasons some of our ancestors migrated to the west. They became migrant workers on cotton farms. About 1920, my dad's two brothers and 2 sisters were already in Texas and California. My dad worked for the railroad. His family talked him into going to Texas to pick cotton. He ordered train passes for himself, my mother, and two sisters who were babies. They sold all their material belongings that couldn't be transported by train. About 300 jars of canned goods, milk cows, and other farm animals went back to my grandfather. Household belongings were sold. My mother sold dishes, something like a tupperware party today, received a set of china for her sales, and with $60, she went to Middlesboro, Ky, to purchase wardrobe for herself, and dresses for the two little girls. It was probably the girls' first storebought clothing. She bought herself a broadbrimmed black hat with a large pink plume that went from front to back--very lovely. She had long dark hair. (I have an 18" length of her hair when it was cut about 60 years ago.) They were ready to go to Texas. They waited for the train passes, week after week went by. Passes never came. Finally, the cotton picking season ended; it was too late for them to go to Texas. My dad went back to his job with the railroad. A short time later, he learned that his supervisor had received the train passes and hid them, never telling my dad they had come in the mail. Supervisor claimed he was the best railroad worker he had. Didn't want to lose him. My dad never spoke to the man again. Just a little history on cotton, and another family story!! Pat
Can anyone help? In the 1870 census of Washington Co., Va., town of Mendota,Va. Hiram Fleenor and Matilda lived in a household with Elizabeth Patrick, 21, a domestic and her sons, Henry, age 2 and George W., age 9 mo. Elizabeth and children are the ones who interest me. Would any Fleenor researchers know anything about them. Elizabeth was evidently a widow and later married a Crawford and had two more sons. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Bev. There were also two Hampton women living in the household.
Hearl and Others, If any of you subscribe to a weekly newspaper called "Antique Week", about a year or so ago, Mr. Heisey, who write on genealogy, made comments about receiving letters concerning books on your family name. If I can find that issue, I'll post the info. But, I, and severa people, responded to his article. He printed my letter. What this boils down to is---ignore any letters you get like that (enclosed will be their family picture that's been used for years). They make it sound like you are getting all kinds of research material on your clan. As Mr. Hearl said, it's a list of names taken probably from phone books in the US. I must point out though, someone did find the book useful in trying to find other relatives, still living, with the same name. My twocents worth! Might I add: If any of you are descendants of Levi Carmack, b. 12/9/1791, VA, and Elizabeth 'Betty' Peters, I am working on a "Carmack Cousins Reunion" that will be held in Berea, Ky, at Boone Tavern Hotel on April 17, 1999. Get in touch with me and I'll send you the announcement. Pat O'Neal
Kathy & Butch &Others: I have a copy of "The World Book of Hearls" which my son paid $29.95 for and gave to me "To help in my resarch"!! I have been bombarded with letters about his "wonderful" book for years and had never bought it because the publishers didn't even know that the spelling of my name has changed three time in the past 150 years..That was my first clue that it was probably a scam..The family records contained in it are nothing more than names and addresses taken form phone books and other public sources. Don't waste your money on The World book of..... It's less than Useless. G. L. Hearl...
I wanted to thank everyone for sending me their advise and own person story of this company. Makes ya wonder how many people have sent hard earned money, to recieve nothing helpfull in return. I now know to put away my check book and go back to research, they way it outta be done. Once again, me and the hubby, Thank You Kathy ROARK/BADGER/BARBERY/HIGHLEY/EPPERSON SOULE/JONES/SOUTH/MANN/LEWIS
thomasw@ptd.net wrote: > > Kathy, > > Halbert's has been in trouble with the government for a long time. > > See: http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/5395/heirbook.html > > Jan > > KATHY and BUTCH wrote: > > > > Morning everyone, > > I wanted to get your opions, please. I recieved by snail mail > > yesterday a letter about a " The New World Book Of South's" from > > > Kathy Roark South
Hi Everyone, I'm so sorry Eddie if this in inappropriate but just heard about it from our Pastor yesterday and wanted to help everyone out there... It came from IBM to his computer...If you get an email with the subject title "It Takes Guts To Say Jesus"..DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY... once accessed if will erase everthing that's on your hard drive...and screws everything up that's on your computer..they explained it's a terrible virus and can cause a lot of headaches... Don't know alot about this stuff but maybe if anyone happens to see this it will help them BEFORE it's too late... Pam
howdy, While those folks may not technically be working a scam, their product is not worth the money and is very misleading. What they do is collect mailing lists like form the highway departments and other sources of junk mailers. They then sort it by surname name and zip code, print it and try to impress potential customers that they have actually researched the data they sell. Married women are left out because the sort done doesn't take into account the ladies maiden name consequently the product is more or less 50% valueless. There is no connection given to linage that a genealogist may be following. The postal service has at times "invited" these folks to cease and desist. They clean their act up a little and come back in a year or so. Again, while they may not be working a "scam" , you will do better to spend your money else where. At 11:40 AM 3/4/99 -0500, KATHY and BUTCH wrote: >Morning everyone, > I wanted to get your opions, please. I recieved by snail mail >yesterday a letter about a " The New World Book Of South's" from >Heirloom Book Offer, in Bath Ohio. This book is written by Bardor S. South. >It mentions in the leter that a Benjamin South who married Maria Pattison >in Clermont, Ohio in 1618. My husbands family lived in Clermont Co, but we >dont know if Benjamin was a part of his line. The book information looks >impressive, but I have heard of many scams offering wonderfull family >information. The letter doesnt say or imply this is my husbands family line, >but it does make me wonder. The book sells normally for $59.95 but is on >special for $39.95. Does anyone have any idea how I can check this out to >make sure it is on the up and up? As we all know, $39.95 isn't alot of money >for documented family lines, but I also don't want to throw my money to the >wind. > Kathy Roark South > >ROARK/BADGER/BARBERY/HIGHLEY/EPPERSON >SOULE/JONES/SOUTH/MANN/LEWIS > > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#8 Anyone interested and researching SW VA and Appalachian history might >be interested in the Fincastle History Forum list. Contact Edgar at >ehoward@conknet.com or swvaroot@swva.net for a copy of the rules. > David. M. Burke deburgh@scescape.net
Hi Kathy, I think you have been hit with a scam. I am here in OH and there has been so many warnings of a firm in Bath, Ohio, possibly using different publisher names. Most of the material in these books are from normal published sources; city directories, phone books, etc. I hope this helps in making your mind up to buy this book. I would certainly try to contact this firm by mail or phone. If I remember correctly on searching for this company no official place of business could be found; address just a forwarding mail box. Sarah Ann ---------- > From: KATHY and BUTCH <snowfme@erinet.com> > To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Your opion, Please, Is this a scam? > Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 11:40 AM > > Morning everyone, > I wanted to get your opions, please. I recieved by snail mail > yesterday a letter about a " The New World Book Of South's" from > Heirloom Book Offer, in Bath Ohio. This book is written by Bardor S. South. > It mentions in the leter that a Benjamin South who married Maria Pattison > in Clermont, Ohio in 1618. My husbands family lived in Clermont Co, but we > dont know if Benjamin was a part of his line. The book information looks > impressive, but I have heard of many scams offering wonderfull family > information. The letter doesnt say or imply this is my husbands family line, > but it does make me wonder. The book sells normally for $59.95 but is on > special for $39.95. Does anyone have any idea how I can check this out to > make sure it is on the up and up? As we all know, $39.95 isn't alot of money > for documented family lines, but I also don't want to throw my money to the > wind. > Kathy Roark South > > ROARK/BADGER/BARBERY/HIGHLEY/EPPERSON > SOULE/JONES/SOUTH/MANN/LEWIS > > > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #8 Anyone interested and researching SW VA and Appalachian history might > be interested in the Fincastle History Forum list. Contact Edgar at > ehoward@conknet.com or swvaroot@swva.net for a copy of the rules.
In Washington Co., VA William Wood, son of John and Mary Music (Musick) Wood married Martha Willis, daughter of John and Nancy (?) Willis. John Willis died in 1855 and is buried in Davis Cemetery next to "infant" Willis s/o John and Nancy Willis. In 1860 WA CO, VA census Nancy Willis is living next door to William and Martha Willis Wood. In the 1870 census she is living with Wash and Mary J. Willis Cunningham. My sister recently purchased "Washington County, Virginia marriages 1853-1880 by Thomas Colley. In it are two marriages that interested me VERY MUCH!! Note: Eddie, I "believe" I may have suddenly developed an interest in the Fleenor family. The two marriages are: 1. Fleenor, Allen & Nancy Willis; 25, Nov 1873 (G) 63y; wid; b and res. WCV; occupation blank s/o Benj. & Sarah Fleenor (B) 57 y; wid; b Russell County; res, WCV; (parents unnamed) (M) Jonathan Gobble I "believe" this could be my ggg grandmother, Nancy Willis, mother of my gg grandmother, Martha Willis Wood. How I wish that her parents had been named. She named one of her sons Hopkins, we have wondered if that was a family name. 2. Willis, Henry Dikenson (Dickerson?) & Elizabeth Fleenor; 21 Jan., 1858 (G) 21y 29d; Sgl; b. Russell Co., VA; res WCV; farmer; s/o John and Nancy Willis (B) 19y 9m 26d; Sgl; b. and res WCV; d/o Allen and Sarah Fleenor (M) James Fleenor It looks like from these 2 marriages that Elizabeth Fleemor's father, Allen married Henry Dickerson Willis's mother, Nancy after deaths of their mates. There is a wonderful book if you are going to research Washington Co., VA that is a must. It is "High on a Windy Hill" by Catherine Sanders McConnell. There are so many Fleenors in it that I may have missed them but didn't find them in it. Would be interesed in any of the family of Allen Fleenor or whereabouts of Nancy (?) Willis Fleenor, his second wife. Marguerette
Morning everyone, I wanted to get your opions, please. I recieved by snail mail yesterday a letter about a " The New World Book Of South's" from Heirloom Book Offer, in Bath Ohio. This book is written by Bardor S. South. It mentions in the leter that a Benjamin South who married Maria Pattison in Clermont, Ohio in 1618. My husbands family lived in Clermont Co, but we dont know if Benjamin was a part of his line. The book information looks impressive, but I have heard of many scams offering wonderfull family information. The letter doesnt say or imply this is my husbands family line, but it does make me wonder. The book sells normally for $59.95 but is on special for $39.95. Does anyone have any idea how I can check this out to make sure it is on the up and up? As we all know, $39.95 isn't alot of money for documented family lines, but I also don't want to throw my money to the wind. Kathy Roark South ROARK/BADGER/BARBERY/HIGHLEY/EPPERSON SOULE/JONES/SOUTH/MANN/LEWIS
Vernard, The only names I can remember being mentioned were the Bryants or Brians who were members of his wifes' family who had come from the Yadkin River area of N.C. It has been quite a while since I read this book and do not have a copy now..I got the book from a college library, but most libraries should have it..The book is believeable and tells much about the forts of Kentucky and the people in them..G. L.H...
Have only caught the last of the questions .... In answer to Daniel's wife, she was Rebecca Bryan. Can I be of help, in any way, please just ask. If I don't have an answer, I'll try to find it! Barbara Gill, Director The Boone Society Websites you might want to check about The Boone Society are: http://booneinfo.com/society http://booneinfo.com/society/compass1.html http://members.aol.com/BarForum/Bsociety.htm
Seeking info on the following Militia Unit...: Boyd's 4th Virginia Reg't. Captain William Gregory's Company of Light Infantry. War of 1812 Time period. Any input deeply appreciated. Jim James F. Carver 610 Gay Street, Box 214 Portsmouth, Ohio 45662-0214 e-mail: heritage@zoomnet.net
Ed & All: I have heard of old deeds being written on sheepskins in Washington county, Va. but I've never seen one. G. L. H.
Most travelers had at least one sheep skin with them which they draped over their shoulders and tucked under their belt or wore like a poncho to keep warm. . I recall the local sheep farmers had a big problem with an animal they named the "Varmint" in the 1950s. This animal would kill sheep in no random pattern and they had to hire professional hunters to come in to find this varmint. After a few days they had it hanging in front of the Tazewell Court House. I saw it and it was about six feet in length. It was identified as a Southwestern Coyote. Probably raised as a pup by someone and returned to the wild. Wolf Mountain was named in "honor" of the numerous wolves by the pioneers.
Anyone have insight on what the earliest pioneers wore? I know the coonskin cap stuff but I wonder what is true. " - the pioneers did come into Washington Co. with sheep. I also know that there were wolves, but they wore linsey -woolsy clothing. That famed hunting shirt that all the men wore was of that blend. You cant have linsey-woolsy with out wool, and you cant have wool without sheep. Everything that I have read says forget all that buckskin nonsence - they wore linsey-woolsy. The buckskin was used for moccasins, and as leggens over linsy-woolsy trousers in heavy brush." -eddie "No One Polled Me!"
---------- From: G. Lee Hearl <glh@naxs.com> To: Pat Oneal <peon@icx.net>; SW-Va-L <sw_va-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: Daniel Boone Story Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 2:25 PM Pat, I have heard two versions of the death of Boones' son and didn't mention it because I didn't want to start an argument about it! Also, I was concerned about the length of my post to the list.. The version I tend to believe is in "Daniel Boone" by Bakeless..In it he says Boone got a lot of supplies from William Russell on the Clinch river but after reaching the Powell Valley, Boone sent his son and another man back to Russells to get some more things they might need..Russell sent his son and a Negro with them as they went back to Boones party..They got within three miles of Boones camp and decided to stop and camp for the night..They were attacked by Indians and all were killed except the Negro who hid.. When his son and the Negro didn't return, William Russell set out to see if they were alright and he found them dead..Daniel Boone had also setout looking for them and came upon them a bit later..He buried his son and went back to the party in Powell Valley. That's when they decided against proceeding on to Ky at that time... G. Lee Hearl...
George, Please read my post again..Unless it was distorted before it got you, you will see, after a second read, that I did not mention where Rebecca Boone died. The "Rebecca" I wrote about was the wife of Reuben Harrell who went to Kentucky, returned to Va. and went back to Ky and died in Kentucky..I believe you are correct about Daniel and his wife Rebecca dying in Missouri. Please re-read my post. G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va.
Hello to all, Other than my fathers name, (Dewey Pultz) I know nothing about him except that on one of my school records, it listed his occupation as a "timberman" around 1957-1958. We lived in Big Stone Gap, Wise County at the time. Could anyone clarify this occupation for me? Would it be similar to a "lumberjack"? Would there be any unions or organizations who may have kept records of members? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Cecil Edward Pultz