AS I PREDICTED I AM GETTING REQUEST TO REPOST THE MAPS MESSAGE. THIS IS ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THE MAPS. Members, I have had so many request about the maps I thought I would post here and not individually which takes a lot of precious time. I AM OFFERING THE MAPS FOR SALE AGAIN Order cutoff date is MARCH 30 The prices have changed some to reflect reality. I don't mind copying, folding and mailing the maps but when someone writes on the deadline date "WHAT MAPS!!" it drives me crazy. I will take a pill and try to get thru. Here is an inventory of the maps that I have. They are all very readable and nearly all are printed text. I find them very helpful in understand the settlement of SW VA, KY, NC, etc. and in helping to find the major mts, streams, towns, and early settlers. THEY ARE VERY HOPEFUL WHEN READING BOOKS LIKE HISTORY OF SW VA, BEAR GRASS, & BENGE. The two maps I created, Wash. & Scott Co., were primarily to show the location of places, streams, churches and cemeteries with SURNAMES e.g. Smith Creek, Jones ridge, Preston Cemetery, Cypher's road. Soon I hope to do a Russell, Tazewell and later still a LEE Co. Maybe in 2-3 months. They are a collection of maps that I have copied from libraries, made myself, books and other sources. They are NOT copyrighted so we can copy them. Sizes are estimates of full map. They are large so they are not cheap to copy. The best part about them is that the mts., streams, churches, mills, communities, mines, etc. often have SURNAMES in them. Please don't ask me to search each map for a NAME you are looking are. I WON'T REPLY! HERE THEY ARE: 1) Historical Map of Washington Co., VA TWO SIZES. I created this map from 4 or more sources. Primarily from the 1880 map from the Hist. Soc. of Wash. Co. I also used several history books, some local historians, USGS topo maps, and the co. road map. It contains roads, mts., streams, churches, cemeteries, mills, forts, settlements, etc. MANY OF THESE PLACES ARE MENTIONED IN THE LAND GRANTS. It covers as far north as Copper Creek. This one has lots of details because I put them there. One can use this map to add their own data such as where their ancestor's farms were. You can build your own genealogical map of Wash. Co., VA 48" x 36" $12. 24" x 18" $ 7. incl. postage 2) Comtempory Frontier Settlements 1740 - 1760 Copy of a library map of VA settlements. Mostly rivers and streams like a geological map . Some of the earliest settlements are show. Not detailed. It covers the NC border to the Ohio river; and from Richmond to the Cumberland Gap. It is a great outline of SW VA if you wanted to create your own maps. It would be ease to print out some names and cut n' paste them to this map. 24" x 18" $5. 3) Southwestern VA map 188 Commercial & Industrial map. >From the New River to the Gap. Rivers & streams, mines, towns, roads, RR, mts., valleys, etc. A few surnames. With an insert of a picture of Pennington Gap 36" x 24" $8 4) Southwestern VA Minerial Resources & RR 1883 - Boyd C.E. w/ an insert of major RR routes of S.E. U.S. Rivers & streams, mines, towns, roads, RR, mts., valleys, etc. A few surnames. 36" x 24" $8 5) NEW RIVER & CRIPPLE CREEK area map. 1887 Covers mostly the Wytheville area. There are some SURNAMES and the best details of Wythe Co. that I have seen. I have listed some of the surnames in the past. Some area names common in Washington & Scott Co. 36" x 24" $7. 6) Montgomery Co. Historical Map 30" x 24" Settlements from 1750 - 1865 . Very detailed w/ rivers, streams, roads, SURNAMES, historical notes and stories, First officers, very attractive layout. If you have ancestors from Mont. Co. this map will be very helpful. 30" x 24" $7. 7) Botetourt Co. Historical Map 26" x 26" Just the present Co. area Settlements from 1750 - 1865 . Very detailed w/ rivers, streams, roads, SURNAMES, historical notes and stories, First officers, very attractive layout. If you have ancestors from Botet. Co. this map will be very helpful. There are SURNAMES common to SW VA. 26" x 26" $7. 8) Pulaski Co. Historical map Same type of the two co. maps # 6 & 7 above. 30" x 24" $7. 9) Roanoke Co. Historical map Same type of the two co. maps # 6 & 7 above. 30" x 24" $7. 10) Fincastle Co. 1772 - 1776 Broad area map of frontier America Covers from the Atlantic to the Mississippi River. Gives the boundary of the original Fincastle and Botetourt Co. Shows major rivers and future states cut from Botetourt Co. which ran to the Miss. & Ohio River. Same type of the two co. maps # 6) & 7) above. Very general but attractive historical reference. 24" x 18" $5 11) SCOTT CO. Historical My best work. A great map full of names and figures. Many SURNAMES of places, streams, and roads. Incl. The Wilderness Road, Fincastle Turnpike and Boone Trail. Very attractive. I have got many compliments. 48" x 36" $ 12. 24" x 18" $ 7 I'm happy to do this if it is not a big hassle. This is not a business for me and I have them priced as low as I can. Please follow directions carefully. I DO find them very helpful and they give much more meaning to my research. *********** HOW TO ORDER: ********************** PLEASE TRY REAL HARD. USE THIS AS A CHECK LIST AS YOU ORDER! 1. Send a check, money order or cash to: Edgar A. Howard 103 Park Drive Narrows, VA 24124 2. Give your 1) name, mailing address, 2) you EMAIL address 3. List the maps you want. Use the Map# and NAME it is helpful if you print this post and mark it up . THANKS -eddie, sysop . . . get a life. Eternal Life! "Toto, I don't think we are in NH any more."

Rena, Jewell Ridge is in Tazewell County. Here is what I have on the cemeteries. FAMILY DISTRICT Ball Cemetery Honaker Barns Cemetery Broadford Billips Cemetery Tiptop Billips Cemetery Tiptop Billips Cemetery Tiptop Billips Cemetery Tiptop Bowen Cemetery Tiptop Bowman Cemetery Bramwell Bowman Cemetery Tiptop Bowman Cemetery Tiptop Brown Cemetery Saltville Brown Cemetery Tiptop Brown Cemetery Garden Mountain Buchanan Cemetery Hutchinson Rock Burkes Garden Central Cemetery Garden Mountain Caldwell Cemetery Chatham Hill Carter Cemetery Tiptop Clinch Valley Memorial Cemetery Richlands Company Cemetery Jewell Ridge Compton Cemetery Bramwell Crabtree Cemetery Chatham Hill Crabtree Cemetery Hutchinson Rock Dickenson Cemetery Tiptop Dickenson Cemetery Tiptop Dillon Cemetery Tiptop Dudley Cemetery Bramwell Earls Cemetery Tiptop Epperson Cemetery Tiptop French Cemetery Tiptop Graham Cemetery Tiptop Grandview Memory Gardens Cove Creek Green Cemetery Bramwell Green Cemetery Tiptop Green Hills Memorial Gardens Richlands Hankins Cemetery Richlands Harmon Cemetery Tiptop Harmon Cemetery Tiptop Harper Cemetery Tiptop Hayes Cemetery Tiptop Herts Cemetery Tiptop Holmes Cemetery Broadford Ireson Cemetery Tiptop Keister Cemetery Broadford Lester Cemetery Saltville Lowe Cemetery Jewell Ridge Maple Hill Cemetery Cove Creek Maplewood Cemetery Tazewell North Martin Cemetery Chatham Hill Mathena Cemetery Tiptop Mays Cemetery Tiptop McDowell Cemetery Tiptop McMullen Cemetery Tiptop Mitchell Cemetery Chatham Hill Mohawk Cemetery Bramwell Moore Cemetery Tiptop Morton Cemetery Tiptop Mullin Cemetery Bramwell Music Cemetery Bramwell Necessary Cemetery Chatham Hill Osborne Cemetery Broadford Page Cemetery Bramwell Peery Cemetery Tiptop Perdus Cemetery Bramwell Pocahontas Cemetery Bramwell Ratcliff Cemetery Broadford Saint Lukes Cemetery Cove Creek Sanders Cemetery Tiptop Sawyer Cemetery Jewell Ridge Sinkford Cemetery Tiptop Sluss Cemetery Tiptop Smith Cemetery Jewell Ridge Stevens Cemetery Tiptop Swim Cemetery Bramwell Tabor Cemetery Bramwell Tabor Cemetery Bramwell Taylor Cemetery Broadford Taylor Cemetery Tiptop Thompson Cemetery Hutchinson Rock Thompson Cemetery Hutchinson Rock Thompson Cemetery Tiptop Thompson Cemetery Garden Mountain Valley Vista Cemetery Cove Creek Wagner Cemetery Bramwell Wagner Cemetery Bramwell Wagner Cemetery Tiptop Wallace Cemetery Tiptop Ward Cemetery Broadford Watts Cemetery Tiptop Wilburn Cemetery Tiptop Wilburn Cemetery Tiptop Witten Cemetery Tiptop Yates Cemetery Tiptop

And don't forget good ole Tennessee Ernie Ford who grew up in Bristol, a few years later I guess. G. Lee Hearl wrote: > Bristol, TN-Va has been designated by Congress as the "Birthplace of > Country Music". > The Carter Family of Scott County, Va., Jimmy Rogers, The Stoneman Family > of Fries, Va. and many others recorded in a make-shift studio in Bristol in > 1927. During the past few days a country music museum opened in the Bristol > Mall.. > One of my "Cousins", Kelley Harrell, recorded the "Wreck of Ole' 97" a few > years before the Bristol recording sessions. He was from Fries, Va... > G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va... > Carter and Ralph Stanley, Flatt and Scruggs, Mac Wiseman, Charlie Monroe > and others performed on radio in Bristol during the forties and fifties.. > G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va... > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #9 As of 2/27/1999 we have 485 members. Traffic can get heavy so check your > mailbox often. We should regulate traffic so it don't get out of hand. > There is an average of ten members coming and going each week. > -sysop

I am intrested in hearing more about Jewell Ridge. Who it is names after where it is . are there any cemeteries there with Jewell relatives and if so what is the names of the cemeteries. What County. and last but not least directions from Roanoke. Thank you for any Help. I am looking for the siblings of Thomas Jewel and his Parents. Thomas was born about 1764. thank you everyone for all the good stories. Love the down home cooking too. Rena Researching ThomasJEWELL,William HATCHER, AndrewHOWARD, AsaHALL, Sarah FARLEY, James GRAHAM, George BOOTHE, any HICKLIN, William GREEN,Thurman BAXTER,John "the settler" BISHOP, Ezra COLLINS, William CUNNINGHAM, Clarence SMITH, Pierce BOYER, Christopher TYNAN, Georg (Dresher)THRASHER , Sarah COX, anyOBENCHAIN,any AKERS, Emra ALTIZER,Henry VANOVER doreatr@rbnet.com rena@genealogy.org http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric http://members.bellatlantic.net/~scotnroa/Barb/floyd.html

this is the first time i have send a response to this web site.. i have been reading it for several weeks... my grandpa was a preacher for the "p" baptist church...he preached over in cumberland ky back in the 50's and 60's... i love to go to the church as a child.... he was a coal miner and they lived in lynch ky... his name was CHARLES "CHARLIE" CROSS.. they never played instrustments in church.. but the church music was beautiful.. and my grannie (who lives with me and my mom) was a old regular baptist... i never did under the difference...my grannie will be 103 years old next month...i remember the ladies would get real excited and people would talk in tongues.. it would scare my sister to death... but we were always... alot better behaved after we left church... grandpa sure could shout and what a beautiful voice he had.. my favorite song was "I DREAMED OF THE GREAT JUDGEMENT MORNING....RESEARCHING HOUSER,,BARKER'S... BAKERS PULLENS FROM SOUTHWEST VA..

<<I don't mean to get off the subject boundaries, Eddie, sometimes these subjects help to jog our memories for things that might help in our search.>>> I too have enjoyed the conversations and stories. I don't mind the stories getting a little off subject but not all member agree. Some are on many list and get large volumes of mail and it takes time to sort thru all the post. So let's exercise some restraint. Use the correct SUBJECT! If you are telling stories say so and other can decide accordingly. Don't tell every little story you know about your brother-n-law's dog. Limit yourself to three or less post per day. Thanks. -sysop "Toto, I don't think we are in NH any more."

Eddie and All, Since I subscribed to this website, it has become my favorite. Although we may get off track a tad, I find the material so valuable, especially for those who don't know the backgrounds of their ancestors, their daily lives and traditions. That, too, is the memorable part of our family history. Don't ask me to remember a birthdate, what year it was, or who begat who, but ask me to tell you their stories, the very few I know, that I can do!! Isn't that what we're about? I've heard some of the best stories in the last few weeks and I'm making a file of them. When we get through, we'll all know what it was like to live back then. We'll feel like neighbors from CA to IL to TN and back to VA. In a way, I feel related to all of you. I just called a distant cousin in Michigan about the Carmack Reunion to be held in April. Never met the man in my life. Never talked to him before. But, he was able to tell me about my grandmother who I never knew, and my grgrandmother. What a thrill that was. When I described my grandmother as my mother had said she was, the man began to cry. I offered my awkward apologies, but he merely replied, "So many memories, so many wonderful memories." I am learning so much about my family through all of you. Thanks, so much! Pat O'Neal

Just a comment. I am glad there is a unity here among us too! (REMEMBER; THE OPPOSITE OF UNITED IS U N T I E D!

Hi, I finally found my Ggrandmother, Cornelia Napier and sisters in the 1870 Lee Co. VA census. Cornelia aka Nelia and sister Marium aka Mary, married Shelton brothers in Patrick Co. VA circa 1835. Anyone connect or have info on this Napier family? Deborah

I don't mean to get off the subject boundaries, Eddie, sometimes these subjects help to jog our memories for things that might help in our search.

Could someone please tell me how to get to the website that lists the surnames that have lists? I had it in my bookmark but I somehow lost it. Thanks. Ann Moore Ann Moore 5209 SW 32nd Ter. Topeka, KS 66614-4014 amoore@networksplus.net ----------

Boy! That message made me feel GOOD!!....I thought I was the ONLY person in the United States who had to take BLACKBERRY BISCUITS to school!! In a JFG coffee "poke" they really turned PURPLE! Mama couldn't afford enough sugar to make jelly or jam and the juice would run halfway up my arm when I ate them!! I also took a lot of "tater cake" biscuits to school and when I opened that coffee poke the odor seemed to fill the whole room..I still like tater cakes!! Boy! do these little stories bring back memories of "The Good Ole' Days" ! If it had not been for my Ancestors I wouldn't be reliving those days..So..Ancestor..where ever you were....I'll find you! Researching: John HERRELL of Yancey and Mitchell co. N.C... G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va.....

Dear Eddie, I have seen several people thank you for the maps and saying they have located folks on them. I am curious!!! Can you tell us about the maps? I am new to the list and really enjoying all the stories. They bring back so many memories. I grew up in Middlesboro, KY and every Sunday we drove to Lee CO, VA to visit my Grandmother in Ewing. We sat on the front porch, rocked and told stories! Of course that was after a BIG Sunday dinner. I seen the older I get the more I enjoy the memories. I was especially interested to see the lists of mountain saying. Only the week before I had made of list of ones our family said. My favorite is "What your reared on you hanker after." Isn't it the truth. One we always said but I never understood, was "Amen Brother Ben--shot a goose and killed a hen". I have even seen that written in a letter! Blessings to all Nini Sieck Researching: MCDANIEL, MORLEY, SUTTON, RAMSEY, DICKENSON, DUFF in SW VA.

FamileeMom@aol.com wrote: > The following information came from James Hubert Hamblin in the form of a > Hamblin Newsletter and from the "History of Scott County" by Robert Addington, published in 1977 the Baltimore Regional Publishing Co. > > Henry Hamlin, my 4th GGrandfather, married Marry/Polly Dickenson. Mary/Polly was a sister to Henry Dickenson ( Deligate to the Virginia Constitutional Convention) (snip) > I am going next month to Lee County area. I would very much like to find > something of their past while I am there. (snip) -------- Dear Friends, This post, with questions about county history, reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask of the more experienced of you regarding what's available on the Net: You know that "Genealogist's Handy Helper" book that's available in virtually all LDS Family History Centers and gives a complete history of every county in America, along map which locates each county within its state? Is its equivalent available on the Net? If you know of such a site, I'd surely appreciate learning of it. -- - - - Carlyine Ritter Jessee@harborside.com ICQ #9189377 JESSEE, BROWNING, HABRON/HAYTON - SW VA BLACK/SCHWARTZ, PARSONS - Ashe Co NC RITTER, MEIER, VANDER HEIU, SE IA, WA

Gosh I love this list..speaking of meals in a little different way..there were things I remember growing up that we could not and never were supposed to eat.. One was Lamb...my Mom said her father taught her you never eat Lamb..because Christ was the Lamb..sounds funny but I have never to this day tasted any kind of Lamb chops or Lamb anything.. another one I remember was never eat anything with "webbed feet"..such as duck or goose, etc., when I asked Mom why..she just said he fahter said it was in the Bible..so don't do it..??? I have had duck and my mother-in-law's house and really liked it (but didn't tell my Mom till a long time afterwards) ....don't care much for squirrels tho... Another thing that comes to mind..at least in our family..chickens were used, all types of pork...but we never had Beef until we came to live in Chicago..folks down home where we came from didn't eat beef...anybody else have the same or similar things in your families..??? Pam Researching the following surnames: BURKE, CARTER, PATRICK, WINGO, McGRADY, WIMBERLEY, WITT/WHITT, HENSLEY, ROBERTSON.

Cecil, I grew up in BSG also CADET I remember that give away food as my grandma called it. I used to stand in line with her when she went to get it. I just wish I had some of that meat. ,First in the 1 lb. cans then in the big round ones. It would make my day. I remember those good ole days. Elizabeth

Hi Sue and List Members, I printed this post Sue and added it to my "Genie" workbook..because it "covers it all in a nutshell""...and I know it's been stated before by several of us but we do appreciate it Eddie..I think you keep us in line pretty good..we now have a new saying in our house.."I know honey, your just gonna go and check your email".<g> ..I thank God for husbands with patience and understanding...and good mailing lists..I have learned so much from all of you and I thank you for sharing what you do..sometimes I laugh till I cry...sometimes I just cry..but it's all wonderful just the same..in some ways I feel like we all buddies... Aynbody heard: The blind leading the blind..they all fall in a ditch.. Eddie, margin problem should be fixed soon ( as soon as I can get my son out of bed this morning) <g> Pam Researching the following surnames: BURKE, CARTER, PATRICK, WINGO, McGRADY, WIMBERLEY, WITT/WHITT, HENSLEY, ROBERTSON. -----Original Message----- From: Bill and Sue McNaught [SMTP:pp02570@email.kcc.edu] Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 4:00 PM To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Appreciation Dear Eddie and List, I, too, want to thank you for allowing the diversity of subjects on this list. I have unsubbed several others as this list meets all my needs. You are providing a forum for our cultural heritage. This is the WHO we are, WHAT we did, WHY it was the way it was. This is just as important as the WHERE and WHEN. Thanks to all the contributors who are sharing such wonderful stories and interesting facts. Somehow I feel we are all related. If not by blood, it must be through our common culture. I'm glad you are enjoying your new home. I came "back home" to NE KY seven years ago and found that the fellow who said "you can't go home again" must have been from some other part of the country. Sue McN. ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== #7 "Roll Calls" or such by other names are to be called by the SYSOP ONLY. NO WARNINGS!! Each member is free to post their SURNAMES anytime they please.

I am searching for Anna and Jim Belcher information. They raised their family of 12 children in Jewell Ridge Virginia. If anyone has any information it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tammy

I remember thoise biscuits with jam - blackberry and by lunch time you had purple biscuits. I promised myself that when I grew up, I would never eat a purple biscuit again. :)

Hickory nuts for lunch!! That's a good one. I was born during the depression years. About 1937, my dad was building a courthouse in Manchester, KY. Although we seemed poor, we weren't. We were a large family and just didn't have any money. Mama could manage to create a meal from next to nothing. Daddy was fortunate in being able to find jobs when many men could not. Day after day, my mother would send my sisters to school with biscuits and ham, or sometimes biscuits with jam. They would swap lunches with their friends for a good ole' dry cheese sandwich!! They considered that a treat. My mother was one of the most frugal women ever, and probably one of the best cooks in the state of KY. Why not! She had cooked for two families, starting as a child cooking for her large family. Her father wouldn't let anyone else do the cooking for him. She later cooked for nine of her own children. During the war, Daddy supervised construction work in Oak Ridge, TN. Rations created a real hardship for large families. Every evening I would wait for Daddy to get home so I could see what was left in his lunchbox. Sometimes he would leave a boiled egg. Other times, half a cheese sandwich. No matter what it was, I thought it was the best tasting food in the world. Every few days he would sneak home a piece of cedarwood that fit perfect in his lunchbox. It was used for firewood. Pat -----Original Message----- From: G. Lee Hearl <glh@naxs.com> To: SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com <SW_VA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 12:55 AM Subject: Re: MEALS >Ed & All: >I came up during the Great Depression and I remember one year we had to >sell all our chickens to buy sugar and coffee. All we had left was a bunch >of guenias (I never could spell that word) and we had to eat guenia eggs >every day! Mama would boil three of those eggs and put them in a JFG coffee >"poke" with a little salt for me to take to school for lunch..I got so >tired eatin' them eggs..I almost started roostin' in the trees!! >I figured I was the poorest kid in the whole school...so..one day I decided >to "trade" lunch with somebody..At recess..I sneaked into the "cloak room" >and picked out the heaviest lunch in there and "Swapped" it for mine..I >didn't look in it..but I knew it was heavy..an I figured it had a big apple >or orange in it..Lunch time came and I ran in there and got that lunch and >sat down in my seat...The boy across the asile had my JFG coffee poke..when >he saw those guenia eggs he began to smile..I looked in the bag I had and >in it was three hickory nuts and a rock the size of my fist...That boy ate >those eggs and smiled while I tried to crack those hickory nuts with that >rock...I 'bout starved that day..and I never swapped lunches again!! >G. Lee Hearl Abingdon, Va..... > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#7 "Roll Calls" or such by other names are to be called >by the SYSOP ONLY. NO WARNINGS!! Each member is free to post their >SURNAMES anytime they please. > >