On 30 Aug 00, at 20:57, G. Lee Hearl: No, you are right on with the Moccasins. Little Moccasin Gap is the gap in Clinch on U.S. Rte 19 at the Wash/Russell Co. line at the top of the mtn. Little Moccasin creek is the branch from the Hidden Valley lake road off rte 19 down the Wash. Co. side to the North Fork. BIG Moccasin Gap is near Gate City/Weber City, Scott Co. and the creek running thru it is Big Moccasin creek that starts in Russell Co on rte 19 and the Hansonville area. Now, there is a 2d Little Moccasin creek that is west of Gate City and it runs into Big Moccasin Creek near Gate City. I do not know the origin of the name Moccasin. I have seen it spelled Mockison, so it could be a surname. -eddie VA Mr. Short, Have you determined the location of the Moccasin Creek where the land was located? There were two Moccasin Gaps and Two Moccasin Creeks, as I understand it. I believe Little Moccasin Creek and Gap are in Washington co. Va.. and Big Moccasin is in Scott County, Va.. Both are on Clinch Mountain.. and I believe both streams flow into the North Fork of Holston (Holstein) River.. In 1790 both locations would have been in Washington county.. If I'm wrong,. someone please post a correction... Knowing the location of the land would help to determine what counties to search... Are you descended from the Shorts in this area? There are still many Shorts living in Southwest Virginia! Your local library should have copies of the books you mentioned... G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.. ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== #4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for help, etc. are PROHIBITED on this List. -sysop ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

When I was a young lad many years ago. My family would go from Wheelwright KY to Big Stone Gap to visit my aunt. We would then proceed to Coeburn Va. via way of Powell Valley. It was a beautiful trip I can still see it in my mind today. So I have always thought that was Powell Valley Roger Napier http:/www.angelfire.com/tn2/rdnapier

Volks, Anyone related and have data on the Houston (of Ft. Houston, Scott Co., VA), Wood, Jonathan; Carter and Grigsby all on Moccasin in Scott Co.?? Is there any connection or relation to Sam Houston of TX fame?? -eddie

Mr. Short, Have you determined the location of the Moccasin Creek where the land was located? There were two Moccasin Gaps and Two Moccasin Creeks, as I understand it. I believe Little Moccasin Creek and Gap are in Washington co. Va.. and Big Moccasin is in Scott County, Va.. Both are on Clinch Mountain.. and I believe both streams flow into the North Fork of Holston (Holstein) River.. In 1790 both locations would have been in Washington county.. If I'm wrong,. someone please post a correction... Knowing the location of the land would help to determine what counties to search... Are you descended from the Shorts in this area? There are still many Shorts living in Southwest Virginia! Your local library should have copies of the books you mentioned... G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va..

Resending as plain-text Interested in any information of these families in early Washington County (pre 1790). These families moved from Craven Co. to Washington Co. before moving through KY and settling in the Sumner Co., TN area. Their property was on the Holstein (sp?) around Moccasin Creek, I have transcribed a land grant signed by Gov. Patrick Henry and have found a number of references to the family. Names would include James King Kerr/Carr, King Kerr/Carr and Elisha Oglesby. I would also like to know if anyone has or has access to the following: Annals of Southwest Virginia 1769-1800 by L. P. Summers History of Southwest Virginia 1746-1786 by L. P. Summers Washington County Virginia 1777-1870 by L. P. Summers Dennis Dennis R. Short Professor of Computer Graphics Purdue University 1419 Knoy Hall, Room 363 W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1419 voice: (765) 494-6457 fax: (765) 494-9267 e-mail: [email protected]

Technically speaking, Powell's Valley might be considered to be only in VA, but I thought that it was supposed to extend down into TN as well. I always thought people who were in parts of Claiborne Co. TN were in the historic Powell's Valley community. It was not formed until 1801, out of Hawkins, so Hawkins Co. would be the place to look for early settlers. I do not think that that area of VA is represented in the 1790 census or TN as well. Diana Williams

I am sending this letter for someone that doesn't belong to the list. I don't know where Petersburg is, but Lucy Bonham came from Grayson Co. He is trying to connect with his father and half sister. I hope this is appropriate. Barb [email protected] wrote: Dear Barbara, I wrote you before, and I didn't have all my infomation then. Andrew Jackson Ross and Lucy Bonham are my GrandFather's Parents Fleming Ross. Fleming had a son named Johnnie Davis Ross,who was born in East Orange,NJ. And two daughters - Gertrude Ross and Mary Ross. I don't know their middle names. I was told they live in Petersbrug,VA. Any way my name is Johnny Davis Ross, jr. And I have a half sister named Joe Ann Ross who I've been trying to find. My Father married Ida Bell Gill of Petersbrug,VA in 1947. I only have a picture of My Father and none of the others,I would love to see them. God Bless . -- Main lines COLE, WARREN & ROBERTS Other names Carrico, Stoneman, Haga, Parks and more http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=barbnor

HI Guys!! When I was in college in WV, we went to Harlan Co., KY to get liquor. There were speakeasys for want of a better term at folks homes. You went into the kitchen and bought a bottle or paid a quarter for a shot and a coke. :-) Harlan was a rough tough area of the country much less KY and folks didn't want to go in there after dark. We never had a problem, but looking back I don't think I would have done it now. LOL NancyS THE MELUNGEON HEALTH EDUCATION AND SUPPORT NETWORK: http://www.melungeonhealth.org SPARKS Genealogy: http://SparksGenealogy.net

Hello, After lurking for a few days i have dug up some info that i hope someone is SW VA can help me with. I am trying to find my great grendfather's ancestors and my line back to Johannes Flinner. Here is all the info that I have. Starting with my Great Grandfather. Harv D Fleenor or Harv J Fleenor ( My great Grandfather ) born? Lived in Lee County, Va died ~1967 My dad says he had a half brother named Pat? He ran whiskey during prohibition so I am sure he has a jail record.He worked at the jail as a cook during the week and bootlegged on the weekends CHILDREN OF HARV FLEENOR All children are deceased Mary?, Aileen (died ~20yo),Rosa, Harol( died 1999) ~92yo, Elmer E. ( 1923- 1980 ) my grandfather, Silas CHILDREN OF ELMER E FLEENOR All children were born and raised in Lee County Va. All are alive today with Patricia living in Big Stone Gap married to Bruce Brewer. They grew up in Pennington Gap. Wanda, Brenda, Patricia, Jerry, Melvin (Douglas) {My father b. 1947}, Gary, Christopher I was born in 1969 in Morristown , TN to my father Melvin (Doug)las Fleenor and Brenda Sue Parker ( Jonesville, Va) I've spent many hours w/o a lead searching different online sources. I appreciate your time and effort. Hopefully you have some info or can point me in the right direction. Thanks, Mike Mike Fleenor Knoxville, TN http://user.icx.net/~mfleenor/observatory/observatory_index.html Fleenor Observatory __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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I am a little new and disorganized at the look up business, and I think I lost a few request. If anyone asked for a look up from The Lost Children of Wythe County, Virginia 1790-1878 Poor School Children Orphans And Apprentices From County Records compiled by MAry Kegley and have not heard back from me yet, then I have lost your request and I apoligize. Just resend if you have not heard from me and I will try again. Put name in subject line please, and I have learned a lesson as well, Please no all of one name ( example all the Doe names in index, be specific and ask just for Jane & John Doe). Willing to help all I can. Thanks for your patients.

Nancy, Powells Valley was a part of Va.. During the settlement period, it was part of Fincastle Co. Then Washington County covered all of that area when Fincastle became Montgomery and Washington counties.. Lee, Scott and Russell were formed from Washington co. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Virginia

Many farms had the weaving looms housed in a separate small building. Most looms were very large and took up the space of an entire room. My d-i-l has a small spinning wheel inherited from her grandmother. It was used to turn the sheep's wool into yarn. Pat

Hi. Im not sure what county the Fort is in, but my ancestors built the Fort Blakemore in VA. I have a little bit of its history, but has anyone been there? Is there anything left of it? A slave named Swann, later Hamilton, saved several children there. I would really appreciate any info. We live here in Western Washington, and my hubby is paralized and has spinal cancer, so I have no way of visiting these places. Another place Id love to hear about is Harlan,KY. and the Martins Creek area. My Hall ancestors came from there. Thanks for any time spent and I enjoy this list and its info. Sincerely, Carol Hall Broom

On 27 Aug 00, at 23:16, June Green: I think most successful landowners had a spinning wheel, loom/weaver and common farm and carpenter tools. I have seen them in many wills, and estate inventories. -eddie Quick question Listers, Was a loom a fairly common household item around 1784? My ancester willed one to his children, no wife was mentioned in the will. He willed his carpenters tools and cross cut saw. Were these common items also? I'm trying to determine his occupation. Thanks, June ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== #1 When you have a new email address please UNSUBSCRIBE from the old BEFORE you lose it; and SUBCRIBE from the NEW address as soon as you get access to it. If you fail to do this please send the old and new address to: [email protected] and the Mailing List name -sysop ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

Can anyone give me an idea of where or how to try to find a family that was in "Powell's Valley" around 1784 - 1790 (maybe earlier) and gone by 1798. The name I am looking for is Jesse Craven who had a son Jesse Craven born in 'Powell's Valley' at about this time. I am an old genealogist (LOL!) but vey very new to research in this geographic area and I am having a hard time narrowing down my search. Do relevant census records exist that could help? Would 'Powell's Valley' refer to an area that encompasses NC, TN, VA AND KY or are there specific counties that I should check first? I have tried many different searches to no real avail and if someone could point me in the right direction I would be very grateful. BTW, sorry if you received mutiple postings. I'm not sure what the differences are or how much duplication is involved in these different maillists. THANKS a bunch for your time. Nancy DeVore Williams

Dear Nancy, Thank you so much for all the new screens to look at. They are great. I have found some information I really needed. Your help is very much appreciated. Thanks again, Dotty

And of course, my "sympathetic" sister sent this after my BOO-BOO! There is a lesson to be learned in all this you know and the following exemplifies it best! "A new monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to help the other monks in copying the old texts by hand. He notices, however, that they are copying copies, and not the original books. So, the new monk goes to the head monk to ask him about this. He points out that if there was an error in the first copy, that error would be continued in all of the other copies. The head monk says, "We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son." So he goes down into the cellar with one of the copies to check it against the original. Hours later, nobody has seen him. So one of the monks goes downstairs to look for him. He hears sobbing coming from the back of the cellar and finds the old monk leaning over one of the original books crying. He asks what's wrong. "The word is celebrate," says the old monk."

In 1784 almost every established home had a spinning wheel and loom.. Looms were quite cumbersome and hard to move and were probably left behind when moving great distances.. Every settlement had men who could build looms but spinning wheels were more difficult to make.. of course, anyone who could make a wagon wheel could have built a spinning wheel too.. Carpenters tools and crosscut saws were valuable in those days.. especially on the frontier.. An early Harrell man and his partner, a Mills, bought a whip saw and hand sawed lumber for buildings in Philadelphia about 1700. They wore the saw out and broke it in two and each had a "one man" saw when they parted company... G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Virginia

Quick question Listers, Was a loom a fairly common household item around 1784? My ancester willed one to his children, no wife was mentioned in the will. He willed his carpenters tools and cross cut saw. Were these common items also? I'm trying to determine his occupation. Thanks, June