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Maria Can you post the name of the person's will that you need?? I have some Kincaid at the Kincaid Will board from Bath. Rena -----Original Message----- From: Maria A Edwards <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, September 10, 2000 9:37 AM Subject: Bath Co Will's >Hi, >I am trying to find out how to obtain a copy of a will dated circa 1804 in >Bath Co, VA. Does anyone on list know where to write for this? Any leads >would be appreciated. >Thank you, >Maria >[email protected] > > > > >==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== >#4 Chain letters, gossip, non-genealogical notes, commercial ads, pleas for help, etc. are >PROHIBITED on this List. -sysop > >============================== >Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: >Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at >http://resources.rootsweb.com/ >

In the marriage record he is listed Levi Carter, but proven it is Canter. I have no other information on Rebecca James at all and would like to know if anyone with any Scott County resources could find more on Rebecca. ( she might be called Sarah too). Is there any mention at all of Levi Carter/ Canter and Rebecca in Scott County other than this marriage record between 1815-1820? Also may have a baby, Henry B. about this time frame. In 1824 Levi is in Washington County,Va. with a wife Sarah. ANYTHING during this time frame deeply appreciated. Anything from a surrounding county between Scott and Washington County? 1815-1820: LEVI CANTER MARREID REBECKA JAMES, DEC. 27,1815. Bond signers: LEVI CANTER, SIGNED X, JOHN JAMES, SIGNED X, BOLLING JAMES. Witness: JOHN MCHENRY

Eddie, From my VA files I have some information, of which all need to be confirmed. 1792 Richard Wells of North Carolina low lands, brought a large family and settled in the upper Powell Valley in the present limits of Wise County. William Wells probable son of Richard was one of the first men to purchase land in Wild Cat Valley. 1805 Zachariah Wells, son of Richard Wells purchased a tract of land at the mouth of Looney's Creek. The lower part of the town of Appalachia is now built on this land. 1819 Robert Wells purchased 100 acres of land "near the three forks of Powell river," from Zachariah Wells. I gotta go, get ready for church. I will chech the remainder of my files and census records later today. Regards, Skip

Hi, I am trying to find out how to obtain a copy of a will dated circa 1804 in Bath Co, VA. Does anyone on list know where to write for this? Any leads would be appreciated. Thank you, Maria [email protected]

Eddie- I have a bit of information on this family since they are possibly related to my Shepherds. ZACHARIAH WELLS, SR According to the FTM webpage of Claude Emerson Wells <[email protected]>: According to records found in the National Archives, Military Service Records Section, the following is the Pension Request filed and granted to Zachariah Wells while living in Sullivan County, TN on March 29, 1825, aged 80 years. Zachariah Wells appears to have enlisted in Loudoun County, VA, July 28, 1776 and served in Capt. Henry Lee's Company, Col. Theodoria Bland's Regiment of Light Horse. He continued to serve until Capt. Lee was promoted to Col. of Calvary, he then served in Capt. Henry Peyton's Company of Col. Lee's Regiment. He was in the Battles of Brandywine and Germantown, at which time he was one of General Washington's Life Guard. He was taken prisoner, December 12, 1777, at "Fox Chase", about fifteen miles above Philadelphia. He was held prisoner for five months, when exchanged he returned to Col. Lee's Reg. He was also in the Battle of Bordentown and served in all two years and five months. ZACHARIAH WELLS, JR. Zachariah Wells, Jr. m. Rebecca Shepherd who may be a sister to my ancestor Nimrod Shepherd. Two of his other brothers m. daughters of James Pendleton Shepherd, who may be a brother of Nimrod and Rebecca. Let me know if you find out anything that might be useful in sorting out the Shepherd family. I have some information on where the Shepherds lived if that might help you tell where Zachariah Wells, Jr lived. Phil [email protected] wrote: > > Volks, > > Anyone know of Zachariah Wells in SW VA early. And his son > whom lived in Wise Co. / Powell Valley about 1800?? > > -eddie >

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Volks, Anyone know of Zachariah Wells in SW VA early. And his son whom lived in Wise Co. / Powell Valley about 1800?? -eddie

Have you read the book printed by Dover Press called "Snorre Sturlason HEIMSKRINGLA or The Lives of the Norse Kings?" It is a 770 page book with 145 illistrations and 5 maps. I have check it out of my local Library and am just getting into it. Looking foreward to a very interesting reading and learning exsperience. Got it off the Norwegian Digest list. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: G. Lee Hearl <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Onomastics to name a few > Eddie & All: > When I first began searching my family name, I did what many beginning > researchers do, went to the books which purport to explain the origin of > surnames.. I found several variations of the name "Herrell, Harrold etc.". > The origins, according to the books, were that Knights who fought with > William The Conqueror were given land in England.. Some of them were from > Harel in Normandy and registered the land under that name, which didn't make > a lot sense to me.. Another origin stated that some men who carried messages > for the Kings and rulers were called "Heralds" hence the name Herald etc.. > Some stated that the name was of Norse origin, so I began a search into > Norse history for the name and after much reading found the first Harrell, > Harrold, was an ancient territorial King or Chieftain in Norway. His name > was Wartooth Haraldar and he was called Wartooth because he had a very large > tooth which protruded from his mouth! He was killed in battle and one of the > warriors severed his head and hung it on his saddlehorn to bring home and > show off.. > During the ride home that big tooth rubbed against the warriors' leg, > wounding it, and he took blood poison and died.. > I found many interesting stories while researching the Harrell etc. name.. > which I believe prove that the name originated in the area around Norway, > Denmark and Sweden and spread into France, Scotland, Ireland and England > from there between 700 and 1000 A.D... The Harraldars were Vikings.. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va.. > > ______________________________

Please, if anyone can look up and find more about this second Henry Canter, and his relationship to my Henry Canter who married Paulina Flinchum I would be most grateful. This is all I have on the other Henry Canter. 1850 Annotated Census, Washington County,Va. Henry Canter,26, Farmer, Paulina,26,Sarah,11,Mary,9,Robert W.7,Jas.,5,Andrew,2 ( 1860). Henry Canter,48,Pauline,44,Sarah,20,Mary,18,Robert,16,James,14,Andrew,10, Margaret,3,Martin,1. 1860 census- Canter, Henry 40 , day laborer, Paulina,44, housekeeper, Sarah,20,spinster, Mary,18,spinster, Robert,16, day laborer, James, 14, Andrew, 10, Margaret,3, Martin,1.This is my Henry, what I can't tie in is this Henry here , 10 years age difference . There is another Henry Canter listed in this 1860 census, ( I don't know if he is "ours" but will note him here for later reference, Canter,Henry,age 30, a carpenter, Lucinda,age 21, house keeper, Robert age 2. Emory Post Office.

I read somewhere that under an English law passed sometime in the 1400s, people were required to adopt surnames. The reason was that this made it easier for the tax collector to find them. I have not verified this, but would be interested in knowing whether this is a true story, particularly since I have one of those English surnames. Phil Crowther, The book states this: "Two events gave a boost to the adaption of surnames in England. The first was the introduction of a poll (head) tax in 1379, which led the government to collect the name of every person in the country aged sixteen or over, and the second was the enactment of the Statute of Additions in 1413, which required that all legal documents contain not just the person's given name, but also his or her occupation and place of abode. These two pieces of medieval bureaucracy meant that virtually everyone had to settle on a definite and fixed surname." -eddie

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Eddie & All: When I first began searching my family name, I did what many beginning researchers do, went to the books which purport to explain the origin of surnames.. I found several variations of the name "Herrell, Harrold etc.". The origins, according to the books, were that Knights who fought with William The Conqueror were given land in England.. Some of them were from Harel in Normandy and registered the land under that name, which didn't make a lot sense to me.. Another origin stated that some men who carried messages for the Kings and rulers were called "Heralds" hence the name Herald etc.. Some stated that the name was of Norse origin, so I began a search into Norse history for the name and after much reading found the first Harrell, Harrold, was an ancient territorial King or Chieftain in Norway. His name was Wartooth Haraldar and he was called Wartooth because he had a very large tooth which protruded from his mouth! He was killed in battle and one of the warriors severed his head and hung it on his saddlehorn to bring home and show off.. During the ride home that big tooth rubbed against the warriors' leg, wounding it, and he took blood poison and died.. I found many interesting stories while researching the Harrell etc. name.. which I believe prove that the name originated in the area around Norway, Denmark and Sweden and spread into France, Scotland, Ireland and England from there between 700 and 1000 A.D... The Harraldars were Vikings.. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va..

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Volks, I finished reading Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson. I recommend it for a deeper understanding of the English language and how our ancestors may have spoken. I learned more of the evolution of English. I thought I might cite a few relevent lines for the edification of all. "In England last names did not become usual until after the Norman conquest, and in many other European countries, such as Holland, they evolved much later still. Most surnames come ultimately . . from one of four sourcdes: places-names (Lincoln) , nicknames (Whitehead, Armstrong), trade names (Smith, Carpenter) , and patronymics, that is names indicatging a familial relationship (Johnson, Robertson). "It's surprising how many medieval occupations are embedded in modern family names. Some are obvious: Bowman, Archer, Carpenter, Shepherd, Forrester. But many ohters are not, eithr because the craft has died or become, rare, as with Fuler (a cleanser of cloths) and Fletcher (a maker of bows and arrows) or because the spelling has been corrupted in some way, as with Bateman (a corrupted from of boatman) or because the name uses a regionalism, as with Akerman (a provincial word for a plowman ) . It mustn't be forgotten that this was a time of great flux in the English language, when many regional spellings and words were completing for dominance. Thus such names as Hill, Hall, and Hull could all originally have meant Hill but come from different parts of the country. Smith is the most common name in America and Britain, but it is also one of the most common in nearly every other European language. The German Schmidt, the French Ferrier, Italian Ferraro, Spanish Herrero, Hunganian Kovacs, and Russian Kusnetzov, are all Smiths." "English names based on places almost always had prepositions to begin with but these gradually disappeared, so that John of Preston became just John Prestohn, though occasionally they survive in names like Atwater and Underwood or as remnants in names like Noakes or Nash (for atten Ash, "by the ash tree"). "The origins of other names are not immediately apparent because they come from non-English sources. Russell was from the medieval French roussell, "red-haired", while Morgan is Welsh for white-haired. Sometimes strange literal meanings are hidden in innocuous-sounding names. Kennedy, means "ugly head" in Gaelic, Boyd means "yellow-faced or sickly", Campbell means "crooked mouth." The same is equally true of other languages. As Mario Pei notes, Gorky means "bitten," Tolstoy means "fat," . . . " . . 183 of the 200 most common last names in America are British. However, a few names that are common in America are noticeably less common in Britian. Johnson is the second most common name in the US (after Smith), but comes much further down the list in Britian. The reason for this is of course the great influx of Swedes to America in the 19th century -- though in fact Johnson is not a native Swedish name. It is an Americanizing of the Swedish Jonsson or Johansson. Another name much more often encountered in America than Britain is Miller. In Britain millers were unpopular thoughout much of history because of their supposed tendency to cheat the farmers who brought them grain. So it was not a flattering name. A modern equivalent might be the name Landlord. Most Millers in America were in fact originally Muellers or Mu^llers. The German word had the same meaning but did not carry the same derisory connotations." P R O N U N C I A T I O N " . . . THE Elizabethans, unlike modern English speakers, continued to pronounce many 'er' words as 'ar' ones, rhyming serve with carve and convert with depart. In England, some of these pronunciations survive, particularly in proper nouns, such as Derby, Derkeley, and Berkshire, though there are many exceptions . . . ". . . modern England it is considered more refined to pronounce 'ate' as 'et'. -eddie ------- End of forwarded message ------- ------- End of forwarded message ------- ------- End of forwarded message ------- ------- End of forwarded message -------

In a message dated 8/31/00 1:06:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > If this helps, I have a map that shows part of the Powell River Valley. > This is on my Charles Cocke webpage at: > http://www2.southwind.net/~crowther/Cocke/_StateVA.htm > Excellent site, Phil. I have a question for you, though -- According to the 1771 and 1772 Botetourt Co. VA tithables you posted (source: F. B. Kegley & Mary B. Kegley, "Early Adventurers on Western Waters", Vol. 3, pp. 276-278) someone named Luck WOODS was listed and near him was Henry FRANCIS. This Henry FRANCIS was supposedly the husband of Leah HOOD and brother-in-law of Lucas HOOD Jr. and other researchers have said that Henry and Lucas lived near one another on Cripple Creek in the early 1770s. Is it possible that Luck WOODS was actually Lucas HOOD? Does that book list any HOODs? I appreciate any help you can give. Vickie Elam White

Hi everyone I have a new Email that will start next week for me please make note of it so you can change it. It is [email protected] that is all for know Mike Meek [email protected]

What is "Marie Justice's book" about? I am very interested in purchasing something on the early history of the area, especially anything that might have information on an early Powell Valley communities. Nanc Marilyn Elliott wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if Marie Justice's book is still > available. I very much reqret not sending for it > some time ago. But would sure like to have one if it > is still around. I have an old flier with an address > which I have at my office so don't know what it is and > if its current. > Can anyone help? > Marilyn Deloach Elliott > Duluth, MN > > ==== SW_VA Mailing List ==== > #1 When you have a new email address please UNSUBSCRIBE from the > old BEFORE you lose it; and SUBCRIBE from the NEW address as soon > as you get access to it. If you fail to do this please send the > old and new address to: [email protected] and the Mailing List name > -sysop > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/

I am looking for any and all YOUNG info from SW VA area. My Young family started in Augusta Co., VA, migrated to Laurens Co., SC, then back to NC/east TN and then Tazewell/Russell Co., VA area before migrating into KY. Particular interest in Hugh, Samuel, James, Robert, John, William, Alexander, Joseph and Thomas. Any help is much appreciated. I have much info on this family to share. Thanks! Sharon Young Jebavy <>< Columbus, OH [email protected] Those that preserve their integrity remain unshaken by the storms of daily life. They do not stir like leaves on a tree or follow the herd where it runs. In their mind remains the ideal attitude and conduct of living. This is not something given to them by others. It is their roots...it is a strength that exists deep within them. - Anonymous Proud Member [email protected] Co-Listowner [email protected] Lawrence Co. Web Site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~churn/index.html Young Research Web Site http://www.geocities.com/charryoung/index.html

Members, I'm moving this week to near Raleigh, NC. I will have access to all my books, maps, materials, notes, etc. I will have a near stable life. (for me ) I may even start work on the maps I have wanted to do for years. Pray for my good health. I want to do Lee, Russell and Tazewell Co. I also want to do some work on plotting the original land grants. I have topo maps for most of the Scott, Russell, and Wash. Co. area and would like to plot the original land grants and deeds. I will need a lot of contributions. This would be a year long project. I might be able to sell some of the existing maps. I will post the list when I get settled later this week. -eddie owner SWVA