Hello, my name is Joseph Sutton. I'm from New Jersey. I'm 15 years old with little knowledge of my family. See, thing is, my mother and father got divorced when I was only a baby and so I've only really known my mother's side (not Sutton). The Sutton side of my family resides somewhere in Kansas and so if anyone is/knows of that part of the family, it'd be great for me to know. To be more specific, my father's name was Theodore Michael Sutton. His family is in Kansas presently and he and my mother were in the Navy. A few years ago he committed suicide and so the subject of that side of my family is very touchy (which is why I would rather ask here than ask my mom about this sort of thing.) If anyone knows anything about him, I'd love to know. I hope I said enough to single him out from any other Theodore Suttons... Also, if there's nothing known about him, then anyone in his immediate family would be nice (and hopefully someone here may be a person I'm looking for!) Thanks! -- Joe Sutton ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

HI Donna, I think you're trying to trick us! We Suttons aren't that clever! :) Jann Sutton Parkes -----Original Message----- From: Donna Sutton [mailto:ladyhawke1214@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:18 AM To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUTTON] REPOST SUTTONS TN/TX That's OK, nobody else has info on my Sutton's, either! My earliest ancestor, Thomas Sutton, sprang parentless from the soil of Jefferson County, MS, in 1820. Donna >From: JF030330@aol.com >Reply-To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUTTON] REPOST SUTTONS TN/TX >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:08:34 EDT > >Donna... >Thank you for your response... >Sorry I do not have any info on your connection... >Julianne > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >Post a query to the SUTTON BULLETIN board -- > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5248/genconnect.html > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfeeR Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST queries to the SUTTON List SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com

I also know the feeling, folks. It would seem that my 4ggrandfather, Phineas Sutton, was deposited on this earth by aliens in Allegheny Co., Elizabeth Township, sometime around 1700. He died there in 1835, outliving his son Aaron, my 3ggrandfather, by about 8 years. If he sounds familiar to anyone, please let me know. BTW, I also have Ms. Suttons, but they're all from Claiborne, Washington, and Bolivar counties. Art Sutton At 07:18 PM 6/5/2006 -0500, you wrote: >That's OK, nobody else has info on my Sutton's, either! My earliest >ancestor, Thomas Sutton, sprang parentless from the soil of Jefferson >County, MS, in 1820. > >Donna > > >>From: JF030330@aol.com >>Reply-To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >>To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [SUTTON] REPOST SUTTONS TN/TX >>Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:08:34 EDT >> >>Donna... >>Thank you for your response... >>Sorry I do not have any info on your connection... >>Julianne >> >> >>==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >>Post a query to the SUTTON BULLETIN board -- >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5248/genconnect.html > >_________________________________________________________________ >Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® >Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > queries to the SUTTON List > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/356 - Release Date: 6/5/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/356 - Release Date: 6/5/2006

Dear Dennis, Thank-you for the information. My father was Dr. Leon Sutton, he passed away when I was 14 months old he was 32 at the time. I first stated that he passed in 1958, it was actually 1957. I have a suitcase of information on my father and that is it. The Leon Sutton you mention from the obit is my grandfather. I have always wondered about the Sutton's before me. Sincerely, Dorothy Sutton Carroll

That's OK, nobody else has info on my Sutton's, either! My earliest ancestor, Thomas Sutton, sprang parentless from the soil of Jefferson County, MS, in 1820. Donna >From: JF030330@aol.com >Reply-To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUTTON] REPOST SUTTONS TN/TX >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:08:34 EDT > >Donna... >Thank you for your response... >Sorry I do not have any info on your connection... >Julianne > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >Post a query to the SUTTON BULLETIN board -- > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5248/genconnect.html > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Donna... Thank you for your response... Sorry I do not have any info on your connection... Julianne

Hi again Dennis, Thank you for your reply Dennis. Do you know where in Eng they came from? Jann -----Original Message----- From: Dennis [mailto:njsutton@njsuttonfamily.org] Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 8:36 PM To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [SUTTON] Unidentified subject! Jann, William Sutton, first settler of NJ was from MA. Many have linked him to George and Sarah (nee Tilden) Sutton of Situate who came from England ca 1636. While the est. birth date for William (ca 1641) fits into the line of children for George and Sarah, no firm information has linked him to those parents. While I expect it's probable I tend to hold off making the connection. William was married to Damaris Bishop in Easton, MA (11 jul 1666) and relocated to Piscataway, NJ before 1674. At 03:00 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: >Hi Dennis, > >Where did this original Sutton come from? > >Jann Sutton Parkes > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dennis [mailto:njsutton@njsuttonfamily.org] >Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 2:28 AM >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUTTON] Unidentified subject! > >I have a Leon Sutton, b. May 1923, a son of Leon W. Sutton. The >father died in 1966 and his obit cites his surviving children of >which Leon is not mentioned. Have not information on young Leon >other then birth date but lineage on father back to William Sutton, >original Sutton settler. > >Dennis > >At 09:53 AM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > > > >Does anyone have information on a Dr. Leon Sutton from the Hunterdon > >County > >NJ area. He passed away in 1958. I have been told he was a state vet > >at the > >time. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== > >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > > queries to the SUTTON List > > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST > If in doubt, send warning to List Owner > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > queries to the SUTTON List > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com ==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST If in doubt, send warnings to List Owner

Hello! My great-great grandfather was George Washington Sutton who started out life in Bienville Parish, Louisiana. Around 1875 he left home to work on a cattle ranch near Conroe, TX. Claimed to have met Sam Bass. He came back to Bienville Parish where he lived until the Depression started, then he moved his children and grandchildren to Harlingen, TX, for about 5 years so they could get jobs, then moved everybody back. I've often wondered about his connection with Texas. Donna >From: gale w <bbw764@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUTTON] REPOST SUTTONS TN/TX >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:42:36 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi Julie, > > I exchanged emails with you years ago, I am not of your line but I am >from another Texas line. My great grandfather Samuel Houston Sutton of >Medina, Bandera, Texas, drove cattle herds down to the coast way back when. > It is rumored in the family that he was in contact with your Sutton >familyback then. Anyway, a long time ago, I am not sure of dates but was >told back in the 1940's range there was a newspaper article stating there >was a Sutton Inheritance to be claimed of a Lord George Sutton and several >Sutton families tried to make claim but did not come up with the papers in >time. Just for the sake of old family tales I would like to get a copy of >that newspaper article. Have you ever seen it? > > Thanks so much, > > Gale Sutton White, Texas > >JF030330@aol.com wrote: > I am about to "pack" away my Family History...and probably pass it on to >someone in my family. This would be on the Suttons posted earlier on this >List. >William and Elizabeth Turner Sutton from Beech Grove, TN to TX..settled in >Round Top, Fayette County, TX. in 1840...Elizabeth died about a year after >arriving...and a few years later...William went back to TN and married >Eliza >Finley. Cyrene Sutton, daughter of William and Elizabeth Turner Sutton, was >my >ggrandmother..Cyrene married Robert Hunter. >Cyrene was Billy Sutton's aunt... Billy Sutton of the Sutton/Taylor Feud in >Texas. This Feud took place in DeWitt County and several surrounding >counties. >Kit Hunter, Cyrene's son and my Grandfather, took part in that feud with >his >cousin, Billy Sutton. >This is a recap of things I have posted in the past. I have old letters >from >relatives in Tennessee written to Cyrene in the early 1800's..I have posted >some of these on this List.. >Julianne/Texas > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST >If in doubt, send warning to List Owner > > > > __________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST > If in doubt, send warning to List Owner > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Hi Dennis, Where did this original Sutton come from? Jann Sutton Parkes -----Original Message----- From: Dennis [mailto:njsutton@njsuttonfamily.org] Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 2:28 AM To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SUTTON] Unidentified subject! I have a Leon Sutton, b. May 1923, a son of Leon W. Sutton. The father died in 1966 and his obit cites his surviving children of which Leon is not mentioned. Have not information on young Leon other then birth date but lineage on father back to William Sutton, original Sutton settler. Dennis At 09:53 AM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Does anyone have information on a Dr. Leon Sutton from the Hunterdon >County >NJ area. He passed away in 1958. I have been told he was a state vet >at the >time. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you > > > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > queries to the SUTTON List > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com ==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST If in doubt, send warning to List Owner

GALE, I THINK THAT ARTICLE WAS IN THE GALVESTON NEWSPAPER BACK THEN......JULIE

HI, GALE... I AM NOT SURE IF I HAVE A COPY OF THAT ARTICLE...BUT, I DO HAVE SOME LETTERS TALKING ABOUT IT...SEEMS ONE OF OUR SUTTON ANCESTORS HIRED A LAWYER ABOUT IT...SHE WAS LIVING IN HOUSTON...AND DESCENDED FROM A SIBLING OF MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER, CYRENE SUTTON HUNTER/CARUTHERS/ROOKE....(FROM CHARLES FINLEY SUTTON) IT MAY TAKE ME A WHILE TO LOCATE THE INFO...AND MY COPY MACHINE IS IN THE SHOP...WILL YOU REMIND ME IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS...BY THEN MY EXPECTED COMPANY WILL BE GONE AND MAYBE I WILL HAVE MY COPY MACHINE BACK. I LIVE IN VICTORIA...OR ABOUT 14 MILES OUT FROM VICTORIA TOWARD CUERO... I AM REALLY GETTING READY TO PACK IT AWAY AND GET ON WITH MY SKETCHING ETC...AND AM A CAREGIVER FOR MY SISTER RIGHT NOW...31 HOURS A WEEK...SHE HAS TO HAVE ROUND THE CLOCK HELP...AND WON'T GET BETTER...VERY SAD. JULIANNE "JULIE"

Hi Julie, I exchanged emails with you years ago, I am not of your line but I am from another Texas line. My great grandfather Samuel Houston Sutton of Medina, Bandera, Texas, drove cattle herds down to the coast way back when. It is rumored in the family that he was in contact with your Sutton familyback then. Anyway, a long time ago, I am not sure of dates but was told back in the 1940's range there was a newspaper article stating there was a Sutton Inheritance to be claimed of a Lord George Sutton and several Sutton families tried to make claim but did not come up with the papers in time. Just for the sake of old family tales I would like to get a copy of that newspaper article. Have you ever seen it? Thanks so much, Gale Sutton White, Texas JF030330@aol.com wrote: I am about to "pack" away my Family History...and probably pass it on to someone in my family. This would be on the Suttons posted earlier on this List. William and Elizabeth Turner Sutton from Beech Grove, TN to TX..settled in Round Top, Fayette County, TX. in 1840...Elizabeth died about a year after arriving...and a few years later...William went back to TN and married Eliza Finley. Cyrene Sutton, daughter of William and Elizabeth Turner Sutton, was my ggrandmother..Cyrene married Robert Hunter. Cyrene was Billy Sutton's aunt... Billy Sutton of the Sutton/Taylor Feud in Texas. This Feud took place in DeWitt County and several surrounding counties. Kit Hunter, Cyrene's son and my Grandfather, took part in that feud with his cousin, Billy Sutton. This is a recap of things I have posted in the past. I have old letters from relatives in Tennessee written to Cyrene in the early 1800's..I have posted some of these on this List.. Julianne/Texas ==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST If in doubt, send warning to List Owner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I am about to "pack" away my Family History...and probably pass it on to someone in my family. This would be on the Suttons posted earlier on this List. William and Elizabeth Turner Sutton from Beech Grove, TN to TX..settled in Round Top, Fayette County, TX. in 1840...Elizabeth died about a year after arriving...and a few years later...William went back to TN and married Eliza Finley. Cyrene Sutton, daughter of William and Elizabeth Turner Sutton, was my ggrandmother..Cyrene married Robert Hunter. Cyrene was Billy Sutton's aunt... Billy Sutton of the Sutton/Taylor Feud in Texas. This Feud took place in DeWitt County and several surrounding counties. Kit Hunter, Cyrene's son and my Grandfather, took part in that feud with his cousin, Billy Sutton. This is a recap of things I have posted in the past. I have old letters from relatives in Tennessee written to Cyrene in the early 1800's..I have posted some of these on this List.. Julianne/Texas

George Sutton and Sarah Tilden came from the area around Kent. George came to America as servant of Sarah's father and later married her in MA. At 08:25 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: >Hi again Dennis, > >Thank you for your reply Dennis. >Do you know where in Eng they came from? >Jann > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dennis [mailto:njsutton@njsuttonfamily.org] >Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 8:36 PM >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [SUTTON] Unidentified subject! > >Jann, > > William Sutton, first settler of NJ was from MA. Many have >linked him to George and Sarah (nee Tilden) Sutton of Situate who >came from England ca 1636. While the est. birth date for William (ca >1641) fits into the line of children for George and Sarah, no firm >information has linked him to those parents. While I expect it's >probable I tend to hold off making the connection. > > William was married to Damaris Bishop in Easton, MA (11 jul >1666) and relocated to Piscataway, NJ before 1674. > >At 03:00 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: > >Hi Dennis, > > > >Where did this original Sutton come from? > > > >Jann Sutton Parkes > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dennis [mailto:njsutton@njsuttonfamily.org] > >Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 2:28 AM > >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [SUTTON] Unidentified subject! > > > >I have a Leon Sutton, b. May 1923, a son of Leon W. Sutton. The > >father died in 1966 and his obit cites his surviving children of > >which Leon is not mentioned. Have not information on young Leon > >other then birth date but lineage on father back to William Sutton, > >original Sutton settler. > > > >Dennis > > > >At 09:53 AM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > > >Does anyone have information on a Dr. Leon Sutton from the Hunterdon > > >County > > >NJ area. He passed away in 1958. I have been told he was a state vet > > >at the > > >time. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== > > >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > > > queries to the SUTTON List > > > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== > >DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST > > If in doubt, send warning to List Owner > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== > >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > > queries to the SUTTON List > > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST > If in doubt, send warnings to List Owner > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > queries to the SUTTON List > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com

Jann, William Sutton, first settler of NJ was from MA. Many have linked him to George and Sarah (nee Tilden) Sutton of Situate who came from England ca 1636. While the est. birth date for William (ca 1641) fits into the line of children for George and Sarah, no firm information has linked him to those parents. While I expect it's probable I tend to hold off making the connection. William was married to Damaris Bishop in Easton, MA (11 jul 1666) and relocated to Piscataway, NJ before 1674. At 03:00 AM 6/4/2006, you wrote: >Hi Dennis, > >Where did this original Sutton come from? > >Jann Sutton Parkes > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dennis [mailto:njsutton@njsuttonfamily.org] >Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 2:28 AM >To: SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SUTTON] Unidentified subject! > >I have a Leon Sutton, b. May 1923, a son of Leon W. Sutton. The >father died in 1966 and his obit cites his surviving children of >which Leon is not mentioned. Have not information on young Leon >other then birth date but lineage on father back to William Sutton, >original Sutton settler. > >Dennis > >At 09:53 AM 6/2/2006, you wrote: > >Hi Everyone, > > > >Does anyone have information on a Dr. Leon Sutton from the Hunterdon > >County > >NJ area. He passed away in 1958. I have been told he was a state vet > >at the > >time. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== > >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > > queries to the SUTTON List > > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >DO NOT ATTEMPT TO POST VIRUS WARNINGS ON THE SUTTON LIST > If in doubt, send warning to List Owner > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > queries to the SUTTON List > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com

I have a Leon Sutton, b. May 1923, a son of Leon W. Sutton. The father died in 1966 and his obit cites his surviving children of which Leon is not mentioned. Have not information on young Leon other then birth date but lineage on father back to William Sutton, original Sutton settler. Dennis At 09:53 AM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Does anyone have information on a Dr. Leon Sutton from the Hunterdon >County >NJ area. He passed away in 1958. I have been told he was a state vet >at the >time. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you > > > > > > > >==== SUTTON Mailing List ==== >ONLY USE THE BELOW ADDRESS TO POST > queries to the SUTTON List > SUTTON-L@rootsweb.com

I'm trying to put pieces of the puzzle together on trying to figure out who my great-grandmother, Susan Sutton is. A Susan Sutton was married to my great-grandfather, William J. Harris. From what I have gathered from reading other information, this Susan was born ~Oct. 1855 in TN. My great grandfather, William J. Harris was also born around 1853-54. They married 18 Jun 1883 in Jackson County, IL They had I believe, 8 children together: Minnie, Philip, Mabel, Ethel, Pearl, Earl, Ray, and Teddie. Earl is my grandfather. I am wondering if anyone has info in regards to the Susan Sutton who was the daughter of Edmund Sutton and Lucy (Harris) Sutton. Here is why I'm wondering if it is possibly the same Susan: There is a Susan that is listed in this paragraph from this website: http://sutton.org/issue19/macon.htm *"Now back to the children of the second marriage of the old Revolutionary soldier: Edmund, born in 1793, died in 1861, married Lucy Harris. Their children were: John Sutton, who went to Illinois; Susan and Jane, about whom nothing else is known."* Why I think there might be a possible connection and perhaps the same Susan, is because: 1. It is mentioned that John Sutton went to Illinois. 2. From this Jackson County Illinois site http://www.iltrails.org/Jackson/ if you look under the "Wills Online" and then the "Jackson County Probate Index" http://www.iltrails.org/Jackson/prodex.htm and search the "S" records for *Sutton http://www.iltrails.org/Jackson/pro39.htm* you will find listed: *Sutton, George L. John H. Sutton 60 2252 Nov 19, 1908 * So a John H. Sutton, was the administrator of the estate of George L. Sutton. So is this John H. Sutton possibly the same John Sutton from TN (son of Edmund) who went to IL? It is just so coincidental that this name falls into the Jackson County IL area....the same area my great grandma, Susan Sutton, married my great grandpa at, and John happens to have a sister Susan who there was no information on. Also, through Edmund Sutton had a half-brother named George (which would have been the uncle to John). Is it possible that this is the same line of Sutton's since the names for all are so similar? Tami (Harris) Short Missouri

Hi Everyone, Does anyone have information on a Dr. Leon Sutton from the Hunterdon County NJ area. He passed away in 1958. I have been told he was a state vet at the time. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you

Here is their address April 4, 1999 Allene & Autry Oates 1800 Granada Blvd. Lot 12 Box 10 Greenwood, MS 38930 Dear Allene, Late last year, I got the attached e-mail (copied back & front) from Emmett Channell. The next page is my answer and you can see I referred him to you as I was pretty sure this was your line. He may have already have been in contact with you. I intended to contact you, but he said he was confirming some information, so I stuck this copy in a book and forgot about it until now. Also enclosed are group sheets I created from his memo. I have enclosed an extra copy of each of the group sheets. If you have time, would you fill in any missing information and send the extras back to me in the enclosed envelope. I hope all is well with you. I get your reunion announcements and always hope I can get away, but never do. I have been working very long hours at my real job and spending a lot of time on church work and my Cox family history. Regards, Les Sutton

There was a Skelton Reunion, publicized by Allene Oates 601-453-9944, held in Greenwood MS. Allene did quite a bit of Sutton research, but I have not heard from her in years. Les Sutton