Hi Peter Thanks for your help. How do I put just Thomas GOODWIN born in Notts living in Middlesex in Ancestry alone. I do that and of course it gives me every County. I have their wedding certificate and it states his father is Oates Goodwin. There are a few of them in Notts, but no trace anywhere of wife, son or him other than in the 1851 census in Middlesex. Maureen in Oz. On 04/07/2013, at 10:05 AM, sussex-plus-request@rootsweb.com wrote: If you're not happy with the format of the Digest you can ask to be switched to MIME format by contacting the list administrator on sussex-plus-admin@rootsweb.com Today's Topics: 1. PARISH PAY (Maureen Farrer) 2. Re: PARISH PAY (Peter R Booth) 3. Kelsey Family - Steyning (Rebecca Moody) 4. Bexhill directory lookup (Dianne Young) 5. Kingston by Lewes St Pancras (Linda Price) 6. Re: Kingston by Lewes St Pancras (Peter R Booth) 7. Re: Kelsey Family - Steyning (Peter R Booth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:09:56 +1000 From: Maureen Farrer <maureenfarrer71@gmail.com> Subject: [SXP] PARISH PAY To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <C3379A21-9B15-4D68-AB07-9EA425E27EB7@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Peter, Sorry about the mistake, it should read Thomas GOODWIn b. 1821 not 1721. In the 1851 census it shows him being born in Notts. In that census he was living with his wife Elizabeth (nee Farrer) and their one year old son Thomas. Elizabeth was born in St. Pancras in 1823 and apart from the 1851 census I can't find anything about them. Barbara was Elizabeth's mother. I found Barbara in Portslade in the 1871 census and then I have her death certificate for 1871 in Portslade and I also found a Thomas GOODWIN's death in 1874 in Lewes. Thinking outside the square I was wondering if Barbara moved from Islington (in the 1861 census) to Portslade because of her daughter and family moving there and perhaps this GOODWIN is Thomas her son-in-law ???? Commenting on Ancestry. It often happens that I can find something on their site and then months later I can't find it and also they repeat a lot of things. The Old Ancestry was so much better. Why is it that you might put in location Yorkshire and yet you have to trawl through all the other counties. Maureen in Oz. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:42:20 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [SXP] PARISH PAY To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601ce77d9$fec27b10$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Maureen, I can't find them in 1861. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to check out all the options. Did one or both parents die? Did the son Thomas die? Did they migrate? Or is it a simple transcription error? Try Tho*, Eliz* or even Betty. Look for all Goodwin males in Middlesex with birth place Nottingham. There's lots of alternatives. The other option is to see if there is a marriage on Ancestry's London Parish Registers. It should at least give his father's name and perhaps parish. The other option is to buy the civil marriage certificate from GRO and see where it leads. As for Ancestry, well.......??? When I search with exact matches for somebody born 1850 in Lancashire and get a match in 1950 in Cleveland, I do start to wonder about programming standards. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:43:22 +0100 From: Rebecca Moody <moodychelsea@hotmail.co.uk> Subject: [SXP] Kelsey Family - Steyning To: "sussex-plus-l@rootsweb.com" <sussex-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB117-W43F175B32676E863A9C7D197730@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I seem to have hit a brick wall! Can anyone help? I am trying to discover who the parents were of Thomas Kelsey who married Elizabeth Reed in Southwick in April 1711. Once the couple married they seem to have settled in the Steyning area and there are records for the baptism of their children at Steyning. I believe the following are their children (all were baptised in Steyning): John baptised 1711 Elizabeth baptised 1712 Thomas baptised 1714 Mary baptised 1717 Sarah baptised 1719 Susan baptised 1723 Richard baptised 1726 Henry baptised 1728 William baptised 1732 If anyone has any information on the family it would be most gratefully received! Looking through the Steyning parish registers their seems to have been Kelsey's baptised from 1580-1623 and then the next Kelsey is not baptised in Steyning until 1711 - if anyone has any ideas on where the family disappeared to during this period I would love to hear them. Regards Rebecca Moody ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 22:45:32 +0100 From: Dianne Young <di.young@ntlworld.com> Subject: [SXP] Bexhill directory lookup To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4B9715A7-3CBA-4672-8E01-3C602DDECB1A@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi If anyone has access to Bexhill directories between 1925 and 1950 I would be grateful for the listings for 31 and 29 Salisbury road Bexhill as I had relatives living there between those dates and would like to confirm the surnames if possible. Any help that you can give would be much appreciated. Thanks Dianne ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 09:18:26 +1000 From: Linda Price <lindavpri@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [SXP] Kingston by Lewes St Pancras To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51D4B142.1070408@optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello Does anyone know what year the Kingston by Lewes PRs listed the age of death in their burial records . .? Also - have the MIs been done for Kingston. . .? Hoping to find the age at death of Elizabeth WINDER who was buried 30 Dec 1781 at St Pancras . . . or a surviving headstone. Any help appreciated. Linda (Melbourne AUS) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:50:10 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [SXP] Kingston by Lewes St Pancras To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002e01ce7848$0e017cc0$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Linda, Probably not in Parish Records, but age at death should be in Civil Records.. A quick look on FreeBMD will show when they started. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:04:34 +1000 From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [SXP] Kelsey Family - Steyning To: <sussex-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004e01ce784a$10ba9760$0500a8c0@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Rebecca, I thought you may have run out of records, but the Archer Software site shows records go back to 1565. It looks like your problem is the gap in baptisms between 1623-1711. It could simply be that the register for that period hasn't survived. Have a look if there are any Kelsey marriages in this period. You might be able to fill part of the gap For example people born 1620 would most likely marry around 1640. And at the other end, people having children in 1711, would be born around 1690. So the gap becomes 50 rather than 100 years. Peter ------------------------------ To contact the SUSSEX-PLUS list administrator, send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SUSSEX-PLUS mailing list, send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Maureen, It's fairly simple. Just put in the Goodwin surname with Middlesex for Residence and Nottinghamshire for Birthplace. I'm wondering about the accuracy of some aspects of your data. It's very easy to accept one source without cross checks. I just had one lady who was 40 in 1841, 37 in 1851, 62 in 1861, and 65 in 1871. So you could get a different picture depending which one you took. And I can find a baptism that matches any of them. It's a bit similar with Thomas Goodwin b1821. The only possibility with a father named Oates Goodwin is in Huntingdonshire. That Oates Goodwin looks to be born c1796 and died in 1876 in Huntingdonshire, but a quick look failed to reveal him in any census. When and where did they marry? Have a look at the father's occupation on the marriage certificate. Try searching in Find My Past which allows occupations. A variant like Godwin might be a possibility. You might also look in census records for Thomas Goodwin / Godwin born in Huntingdonshire. As I said, there's many hours of work to check all the possibilities. As a part time professional researcher I usually advise it's uneconomic unless you're prepared to do it yourself. Peter

Maureen, I think you should start a new thread and it probably should be in Huntingdonshire. You should also make the case for how you get back to Thomas Goodwin. Are you sure you have the right one? You've found the marriage certificate for a Thomas Goodwin to Elizabeth Farrer on 11/11/1849 at St Pancras. Is it truly him? Both are of full age. His father is given as Oates Cliff GOODWIN, carpenter and her father is David FARRER. The witnesses are David Farrer and Mary Goodwin. Are these siblings or possibly parents? In 1851, Thomas and Elizabeth are living in London with a son Thomas. Thomas gives his birthplace as Notts, but we can't find them in any later census. If you describe your connection from Thomas, it might give some clues. Do you descend from their son, or were there other children? I can find no evidence of the father with the unique name of Oates Cliff Goodwin in any census although there is a 1876 death in Thrapston, Hunts that suggests he was born c1797 and should be in 1841, 1851,1861 and 1871. Without knowing an approximate age for Mary Goodwin, it's very hard to find her in census records. I assumed she was a sister and looked for births in Huntingdonshire c1825. But did she stay in London or go back home. By 1851 she may have been married. Family Search have some records and submitted trees for Oates Cliff Goodwin, but they suggest a 1787 birth and a death two years later to parents Richard Goodwin and Susannah Cliff. Did they name a second son after the first who died? And how accurate are the submitted entries? As I've already said, it requires a lot of work. Peter