Tim & Marion, Not sure how you missed it, but you can always check the list archives. The real shame is that Ralph was looking for current day descendants, and I spent a couple of hours looking for ancestors that he already had. When people ask for anyone with connections they really need to make it clear that the are looking for current day descendants. Especially when it's a name like Smith. I'd also remind people that UK BMD are available right up to around 2005. So finding current day descendants should be a matter of following the records. And anyone should be able to do the bulk of it for themselves. Peter