Hi again You didn't mention the census year (1841 & 1851 are both HO107) and only a partial reference First two as transcribed on Ancestry Remembering also that ages should be rounded down to the nearest whole five for those above 15 in 1841 1841 England Census about Catherine Knight Name: Catherine Knight Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Female Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Ifield Hundred: Burbeach County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration District: Horsham Sub-registration District: North Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1095 Book: 13 Folio: 24 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Knight 35 Ann Sayers 15 Allin Tusler 25 Isaac Jenkins 15 William Holdor 15 Benjamin Banks 15 Edward Penfold 13 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1095; Book: 13; Civil Parish: Ifield; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 24; Page: 2; Line: 13; GSU roll: 474672. ================= 1841 England Census about Allen Trusler Name: Allen Trusler Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Itchingfield Hundred: East Easwrith County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration District: Horsham Sub-registration District: South Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1096 Book: 1 Folio: 9 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Allen Trusler 25 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1096; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Itchingfield; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 9; Page: 13; Line: 20; GSU roll: 474673. ==================== He is incorrectly enumerated on his own as above, whereas he is living with Hannah TRUSLER 55 (who may or may not be his mother as relationships are not recorded in 1841) The household in full is :- // Hannah TRUSLER 55 widow of Ag Lab Hannah TRUSLER 20 George TRUSLER 6 Stephen TRUSLER 4 Allen TRUSLER 25 Ag Lab / John HOLLOWAY 22 Ag Lab Martha PENFOLD 15 // All born in County where enumerated You will see from the above that John HOLLOWAY & Martha PENFOLD are in a separate part of the same building From the above I would say that Allen TUSLER or TRUSLER worked with the Catharine KNIGHT and others for William GARARD 65 farmer Like many farm labourers he would live in for part or all of the week So he has either been enumerated there as that is where he normally lived or with Hannah TUSLER as that was his home when not working Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2013 07:44, Steve Tusler wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I recall in the past a conversation where it was possible for one person to > be on two census records in the same year. > > > > I know they are geographically close (Itchingfield & Ifield) but is it > possible that somebody could be on the following two references If they were > done on different days? > > > > HO 107/1096/1 page 13 > > HO 107/1095/13 page 24 > > > > I had originally only looked at the census from Ifield but recently started > using the alternate Surname spelling (Trusler) that is more prevalent the > further back you go in time and it fills in some gaps with others on the > same page. > > Allen Trusler appears to be living with his future wife Martha Penfold who > was 15 at the time, is it normal to show non married couples living > together? > > > > Regards > > Steve Tusler > > Sydney

Thanks Nivard, These were the two census I was looking at and only came across the Itchingfield record yesterday as from 1851 onwards only "Tus(s)ler" was being used. I knew that one of the spelling alternatives was Trusler and this is the first record where I can link directly to that spelling. I can find a place for all the other names on the census. George and Stephen are the children of Hannah age 20 with father unknown for both and Allen age 25 is living apart from his wife which is probably why the 1841 census was blank for this part of the family. Nivard, Stella and Jean Thanks for filling in more details in my further education to not take these census records too literally Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Monday, 23 December 2013 8:10 PM To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SXP] Two census records for the same person Hi again You didn't mention the census year (1841 & 1851 are both HO107) and only a partial reference First two as transcribed on Ancestry Remembering also that ages should be rounded down to the nearest whole five for those above 15 in 1841 1841 England Census about Catherine Knight Name: Catherine Knight Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Gender: Female Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Ifield Hundred: Burbeach County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration District: Horsham Sub-registration District: North Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1095 Book: 13 Folio: 24 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Knight 35 Ann Sayers 15 Allin Tusler 25 Isaac Jenkins 15 William Holdor 15 Benjamin Banks 15 Edward Penfold 13 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1095; Book: 13; Civil Parish: Ifield; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 24; Page: 2; Line: 13; GSU roll: 474672. ================= 1841 England Census about Allen Trusler Name: Allen Trusler Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Sussex, England Civil Parish: Itchingfield Hundred: East Easwrith County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration District: Horsham Sub-registration District: South Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1096 Book: 1 Folio: 9 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Allen Trusler 25 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1096; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Itchingfield; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 9; Page: 13; Line: 20; GSU roll: 474673. ==================== He is incorrectly enumerated on his own as above, whereas he is living with Hannah TRUSLER 55 (who may or may not be his mother as relationships are not recorded in 1841) The household in full is :- // Hannah TRUSLER 55 widow of Ag Lab Hannah TRUSLER 20 George TRUSLER 6 Stephen TRUSLER 4 Allen TRUSLER 25 Ag Lab / John HOLLOWAY 22 Ag Lab Martha PENFOLD 15 // All born in County where enumerated You will see from the above that John HOLLOWAY & Martha PENFOLD are in a separate part of the same building From the above I would say that Allen TUSLER or TRUSLER worked with the Catharine KNIGHT and others for William GARARD 65 farmer Like many farm labourers he would live in for part or all of the week So he has either been enumerated there as that is where he normally lived or with Hannah TUSLER as that was his home when not working Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 23/12/2013 07:44, Steve Tusler wrote: > Hello Listers, > > I recall in the past a conversation where it was possible for one > person to be on two census records in the same year. > > > > I know they are geographically close (Itchingfield & Ifield) but is it > possible that somebody could be on the following two references If > they were done on different days? > > > > HO 107/1096/1 page 13 > > HO 107/1095/13 page 24 > > > > I had originally only looked at the census from Ifield but recently > started using the alternate Surname spelling (Trusler) that is more > prevalent the further back you go in time and it fills in some gaps > with others on the same page. > > Allen Trusler appears to be living with his future wife Martha Penfold > who was 15 at the time, is it normal to show non married couples > living together? > > > > Regards > > Steve Tusler > > Sydney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message