Hi Lynne, Thanks for the tip. Have to scroll because the pages don't tally and there are instances of pages missing, see below. I have just gone through the route of looking direct at the enumeration districts, with the following results: For Brede, Sussex: - District: 9 & 10 appear to be correct no missing pages/images. - District: 8 is all wrong: Image 1 is Page 10 from Northiam, Image 2 is Page 14 from Nortiam (not sure where pages 11 - 13 for northiam are) Image 3 - 6 is the description and totals for the Enumaration district. Image 7 is Page 1 (Household 1) and then everything seems ok until you get to Page 5 then find Pages 6 through to 10 are missing completely (households jump from 26 to 55) Have similar problems with other villages in this area of the country. Report every time to ancestry but nothing seems to be happening. Regards Kevin On 29 December 2013 22:57, Lynne Ingalls <lynne.ingalls@comcast.net> wrote: > Kevin - > > I had a quick look at Ancestry for the 1861 of Brede in Sussex. There are > 3 Enumeration Districts listed. When you are on the search page for the > 1861 census, you will see on the right hand side of the page, "Browse this > collection." You can type in the County and the parish. The 3 enumeration > districts will pop up. You can click on any of them and be taken to the > images. At the bottom of each page of images is the page number. You can > type in the last page, or any page, and be taken to that page. You don't > have to scroll thru one at a time. > > Give that a try, and let me know if you are still having problems with the > images. Mine are coming out fine. > > Regards, > Lynne in Tucson > >

Kevin - I’m glad you’re there to correct them. I wouldn’t have known that there were missing pages as I’m not researching Brede. I wonder why Ancestry is not responding? Maybe people are off for the holidays? I’ll have a look at Cuckfield and see if I notice the same problems. Anyone else having problems with the Sussex images? Lynne in Tucson From: Kevin Poile Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 5:21 AM To: Lynne Ingalls Cc: List SUSSEX Subject: Re: [SXP] 1861 Census on Ancestry Hi Lynne, Thanks for the tip. Have to scroll because the pages don't tally and there are instances of pages missing, see below. I have just gone through the route of looking direct at the enumeration districts, with the following results: For Brede, Sussex: - District: 9 & 10 appear to be correct no missing pages/images. - District: 8 is all wrong: Image 1 is Page 10 from Northiam, Image 2 is Page 14 from Nortiam (not sure where pages 11 - 13 for northiam are) Image 3 - 6 is the description and totals for the Enumaration district. Image 7 is Page 1 (Household 1) and then everything seems ok until you get to Page 5 then find Pages 6 through to 10 are missing completely (households jump from 26 to 55) Have similar problems with other villages in this area of the country. Report every time to ancestry but nothing seems to be happening. Regards Kevin On 29 December 2013 22:57, Lynne Ingalls <lynne.ingalls@comcast.net> wrote: Kevin - I had a quick look at Ancestry for the 1861 of Brede in Sussex. There are 3 Enumeration Districts listed. When you are on the search page for the 1861 census, you will see on the right hand side of the page, "Browse this collection." You can type in the County and the parish. The 3 enumeration districts will pop up. You can click on any of them and be taken to the images. At the bottom of each page of images is the page number. You can type in the last page, or any page, and be taken to that page. You don't have to scroll thru one at a time. Give that a try, and let me know if you are still having problems with the images. Mine are coming out fine. Regards, Lynne in Tucson

Thank you, Kevin! Your problem made me take a second look at my ancestor, Richard Berry who lived at Petlands Farm in 1861. I knew from his will he left a number of cottages to his son, daughter, and grand daughter. I had a look at Findmypast for the 1861 census to see if it was different than the information on Ancestry, and found that his daughter, Elizabeth Berry Woollvin was born at Wivelsfield in Sussex. While in Salt Lake City last fall, I found in the Lewes Session records: “William Brigden, yeoman of Cuckfield refuses to maintain his family of three grandchildren, Frances Berry c11, Sarah Berry c7, and Richard Berry c5 all poor and impotent and unable to work and are now chargeable to Wivelsfield, he being of sufficient ability to maintain them; now ordered to pay 2s.6d per week from the present sessions so long as he said children are chargeable [Richard Berry, 24+, carpenter of Cuckfield married Sarah Brigden, 24+, 1776 at Hurstpierpoint].” I also found in the Minutes of a Court Baron, 6 Jul 1802: “Death of Sarah Berry the wife of Richard Berry of Wivelsfield, lath-cleaver, who held to her and her heirs 4 pieces of land called Merryfields contianing 8 ac. in Wivelfield late Vinals and before Scrase’s, rent 6d. And Admission of Richard Berry the only son of the said Sarah and customary heir to the premises. I know from the Marriage Settlement of Mary Pitt and Thomas Warden in March 1767 that William Brigden was occupying Petlands in Cuckfield at that time. I’m wondering where I would find a will for William Brigden? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Lynne in Tucson From: Kevin Poile Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 5:21 AM To: Lynne Ingalls Cc: List SUSSEX Subject: Re: [SXP] 1861 Census on Ancestry Hi Lynne, Thanks for the tip. Have to scroll because the pages don't tally and there are instances of pages missing, see below. I have just gone through the route of looking direct at the enumeration districts, with the following results: For Brede, Sussex: - District: 9 & 10 appear to be correct no missing pages/images. - District: 8 is all wrong: Image 1 is Page 10 from Northiam, Image 2 is Page 14 from Nortiam (not sure where pages 11 - 13 for northiam are) Image 3 - 6 is the description and totals for the Enumaration district. Image 7 is Page 1 (Household 1) and then everything seems ok until you get to Page 5 then find Pages 6 through to 10 are missing completely (households jump from 26 to 55) Have similar problems with other villages in this area of the country. Report every time to ancestry but nothing seems to be happening. Regards Kevin

Hi Kevin I would say its an image linking problem rather than missed pages (as far as transcription goes anyway) The transcripts for the folios you mention are there on Ancestry but tied to the wrong image, keying error most likely The pages had to have been there for the transcriber to complete them, so they are very likely there but also tied to the wrong transcript I know its no recompense but given the size of the job of enabling access to the various census, its not surprising there are mistakes and problems At least on Ancestry you can work out what is missing, almost impossible on other sites The population count of Brede over 1851, 61 & 71 on Ancestry is 1851 1,058 1861 1,042 1871 1,006 So as far as I can see the transcripts are correct in count, its the images wrongly indexed that is the problem NB page 10 is the second page of folio 76, page 14 the second page of folio 78 Leaving page 11, 12 & 13 missing or wrongly linked And folio 84 p6, folios 85, 86 pages 7 to 10 also wrongly linked Where they are on Ancestry is another matter They are on findmypast Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/12/2013 12:21, Kevin Poile wrote: > Hi Lynne, > > Thanks for the tip. Have to scroll because the pages don't tally and there > are instances of pages missing, see below. > > I have just gone through the route of looking direct at the enumeration > districts, with the following results: > > For Brede, Sussex: > > - District: 9 & 10 appear to be correct no missing pages/images. > > - District: 8 is all wrong: > > Image 1 is Page 10 from Northiam, > Image 2 is Page 14 from Nortiam (not sure where pages 11 - 13 for > northiam are) > Image 3 - 6 is the description and totals for the Enumaration > district. > Image 7 is Page 1 (Household 1) and then everything seems ok until > you get to Page 5 then find Pages 6 through to 10 are missing completely > (households jump from 26 to 55) > > Have similar problems with other villages in this area of the country. > Report every time to ancestry but nothing seems to be happening. > > Regards > Kevin