Just wanted to say a public thank you to several people who have replied to me re John(Frederick) WALDER - especially... Geoff, Heather, Pam, Jane and Margaret. Your interest and help is very much appreciated, believe me. We're working on Frederick or John....as you do! The best bet at the moment is a John bap 4 May 1857 Rogate, but with parents John and Mary Ann instead of William as on the marriage certificate I have. Finding a birth reference for the John above is my main aim. Thank you everyone... Suzie (from Orkney)