East Grinstead Property: "Green('s) Farm" @ Saint Hill My ggggg-grandfather, William Streater (ca. 1713-1787), occupied Dunnings Farm, East Grinstead from 1737 until his death. On 27 October 1777, he testified that had also been occupying 10 acres of land that was part of "Green's Farm" in East Grinstead for the past 5 years. Dunnings Farm was adjacent to Saint Hill Manor and became part of Gibbs Crawfurd's estate when he married Anna Payne in 1760. Not surprisingly, I found that "Green F." [Green Farm] was also adjacent to Saint Hill Manor, as illustrated in this map from 1795: <http://www.theweald.org/m00.asp?PicIdto=50808306> However, buildings on this map are not consistently labeled so it is not possible to say exactly what the boundaries of "Green F." farm were or even if it lay on the west or east side (or both sides?) of the road from East Grinstead to West Hoathly. This is the *only* reference that I have been able to find for "Green's Farm" or "Green Farm" so far. "Green's Farm" was probably the unnamed property shared by William Streater and Abraham Huggett by 1780 until 1786, as documented in the annual tax rolls. Any other references would be greatly appreciated! Given the lack of other references for "Green Farm" or "Green's Farm," I am presuming that the farm was known by other names prior to the 1770s and after 1795. Can anyone familiar with the area identify the current names of properties in this immediate area to enable further research? I love Google Maps but you can't search for what you don't know! Here is my customized Google Map which shows approximately where "Green Farm" would be located today, in reference to Saint Hill Manor, Saint Hill Green and what was Dunnings Farm: <http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=104293632703108 193753.000442f0f14a388d5af5c&t=p&z=10> Thanks for your help! Perry

I take it you have checked the tithe maps for the area. They are now available on CD from the Record Office, via this link:- http://www.westsussex.gov.uk/ccm/content/libraries-and-archives/record-offic e/tithe-maps-project/cds-and-order-form.en Steve

To answer my own question, Green Farm was also called Gabriels... Reference: SAS-H/324 Lease for a year Creation dates: 11 Apr 1759 Scope and Content By Joseph Trulock of East Grinstead, gent., to John Crawfurd of East Grinstead, esq., of All that messuage, tenement and farm called *Gabriels otherwise Green* and all barns, buildings &c. and several pieces of land, meadow &c. to the said messuage or tenement belonging containing 100 ac. late in the occupation of Philip Sergeant and then of the said Jos. Trulock in East Grinstead When I was in England in 1996, I obtained a copy of the beautifully colored and detailed map of Dunnings Farm mentioned in the reference below. I presume that the map for Gabriels/Green Farm would be equally magnificent. Reference: AMS6497/2 Survey Creation dates: 1776 Scope and Content 'A Field Book Containing the Admeasurement of certain Estates in the Parishes of Twineham, Lindfield, Ardingly, West Hoathly, Worth, East-Grinsted, and Mayfield in the County of Sussex, and Dunks Farm in the County of Kent. Wherein is distinguished the Freehold from Copyhold Land belonging to Gibbs Crawfurd Esquire and Mrs Payne' Volume of plans of the Saint Hill estate by [Thomas] Yeakell and [William] Gardner, 1776. Each map is numbered according to a table, listing field-names and acreages, on the facing page. The maps have been annotated with notes of sales off and other details. Several of the maps have been copied, as an exercise, by R[obert] C[rawfurd] (1801-1883) of Saint Hill A comparison of the table of contents with the rest of the volume makes it clear that several of the maps have been cut out, presumably on sale. In some cases, both map and table of contents are missing. The sale of Little Hickstead in Twineham, and the removal of the map and table which formed folio 19 of the original volume, accounts for the presence of Twineham in the descriptive title but the absence of any land in that parish from the surveys The original volume, BL Maps C.7e.18(1), is foliated 1-22. In the list which follows, the numbers are those of the individual sheets which comprise the copy For Gibbs Crawfurd (1732-1793), his son Charles Payne Crawfurd (1765-1814) and grandson Robert Crawfurd (1801-1883) of Saint Hill, see W H Hills, History of East Grinstead (1906), 82-3. For the settlement on the marriage of Gibbs Crawfurd with Ann, daughter of Charles Payne, deceased, 1760, see SAS/H 463; at that date Anna's mother Mary Payne, widow, held a life interest in much of the estate. For Thomas Yeakell and William Gardner, see Sarah Bendall (ed), Dictionary of Land Surveyors (second edn, 1997), 2 576, 194 p 1 title-page; facing page extensively annotated by C[harles] P[ayne] Crawfurd with details of the purchase and tenancy of Mays Farm in East Grinstead, The Dungate Fields adjoining Hollybush and the tithes of Goddenwick [in Lindfield in 1749 - see SAS/H 427]; of the enfranchisement by the estate of the mill, held of Mr Morphet's manor of Brockhurst, the deed drawn by Thomas Wakeham of East Grinstead, 1797 p 2 table of contents, distinguishing property of [Gibbs] Crawfurd and [Mary] Payne p 3 overall plan of the land around Saint Hill, augmented to show purchases to c1840 pp 4, 5 Saint Hill [in East Grinstead], the seat of Gibbs Crawfurd, esq pp 6, 7 Bellmans Town Farm near East Grinstead pp 8, 9 Gabriels Farm, East Grinstead p 10 The Hook and Barley Fields, East Grinstead, copyhold of the manor of Imberhorne p 11 copy of 10 above [by Robert Crawfurd], 1840 pp 12, 13 Hollybush (copyhold of the manor of Imberhorne) and Standen (freehold) in East Grinstead, with a note of the rental and rateable value pp 14, 15 copies of 12 and 13 above [by Robert Crawfurd], 1840 p 16 Dunnings Farm [in East Grinstead]; table only; for the map and table, see WSRO Add MS 45636 f 4v, 5; for a map of 1840, see 48, 49 below *[Perry: Dunnings Farm was occupied by the STREETER family 1737-1794]* pp 17, 18 The Mill Farm in East Grinstead, part copyhold of the manor of Imberhorne pp 19, 20 Butlers and Court House in East Grinstead, copyhold of the manor of Imberhorne; note of sale of the eastern part of the estate to George Ellis of East Grinstead, 1852 p 21 Brooklands Farm [in East Grinstead]; table only; for the map and table, see WSRO Add MS 45636 f12v, 13 pp 22, 23 The Gallows Croft in East Grinstead; note of sale to Mr Stenning, 1839 pp 24, 25 The Moats Farm in East Grinstead; note by R[obert] Crawfurd of his sale of field 8 to William Kenward of Lewes [recte Uckfield], brewer, 18 Aug 1845 and of fields 5 and 9 to the crown, 1820 A map of the Burgage House and garden [in East Grinstead] is listed in the table of contents at this point in the volume; for the map and table, showing the house immediately west of the churchyard and annotated sold not entailed, see WSRO Add MS 45636 f9 pp 26, 27 The Dean in East Grinstead, with a copy by Frederick Rose, 1859 pp 28, 29 Piggots Fields in East Grinstead pp 30, 31 Chittingly Manor Farm in West Hoathly pp 32, 33 Lyewood Common Farm in Ardingly pp 34, 35 Godenwick Farm in Lindfield p 36 Burleigh Archer Manor Farm [in Worth]; table only; for the map and table, see WSRO Add MS 45636 f14v, 15 A map of Little Hickstead [in Twineham and Bolney] is listed in the table of contents at this point in the volume. It was sold to the Wood family of Hickstead in the 1790s; for copies of the map and schedule among the archive of the estate see HIC 450-452 pp 37, 38 Huggetts Furnace Farm in Mayfield; note of letting of field 41 to Mrs [Catherine] Stone's [Stocklands Farm], being separated from the rest by the brook altering its course; note of sale of isolated piece of wood to Mr [?William] Day pp 39, 40 Dunks Farm in Lamberhurst and Brenchley, Kent; note that the farm was valued by Mr Hodson in 1790 pp 41-45 Printed sales particulars of Little Hickstead Farm in Twineham, Bolney and Hurstpierpoint and of Dunks Farm in Lamberhurst and Brenchley, Kent, 16 Aug 1798, annotated with details of the sale of Dunks by private contract to William Webb of Harrietsham near Maidstone, 6 Oct 1798 pp 46, 47 Mays Farm in East Grinstead by R[obert] C[rawfurd], 1840 pp 48, 49 Dunnings Farm in East Grinstead by R[obert] C[rawfurd], 1840 pp 50, 51 Hazelden Farm in East Grinstead by R[obert] C[rawfurd], 1840; note of purchase, 24 Jun 1831 pp 52, 53 Stone Farm in East Grinstead, copyhold of the manor of Imberhorne, by R[obert] C[rawfurd], 1840; note of purchase, 24 Jun 1831 pp 54, 55 'A Survey of Durridge in Rotherfield Sussex part of the Estate of Mr William Tooth'; Stephen Vine, 1777; endorsed with note that the land is tenanted with Huggetts Furnace Farm in Mayfield, c1780 For a note of repairs to Durridge Cottage, c1850, see WSRO Add MS 45636, endpapers p 56 Measurement of Mays Farm in East Grinstead by John Jordan, with his letter to Charles Payne Crawfurd that the woods could not be measured 'without doing a great deal of damage', annotated by CPC 'to our breeches', 19 Jun 1799 p 57 Notice by Charles Tulley, tenant of Hazelden in East Grinstead, to Robert Crawfurd, esq, that he intends to quit the farm on 10 Oct; 5 Apr 1849 -----Original Message----- From: Perry Streeter [mailto:perry@streeter.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:43 PM To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: East Grinstead Property: "Green('s) Farm" @ Saint Hill East Grinstead Property: "Green('s) Farm" @ Saint Hill My ggggg-grandfather, William Streater (ca. 1713-1787), occupied Dunnings Farm, East Grinstead from 1737 until his death. On 27 October 1777, he testified that had also been occupying 10 acres of land that was part of "Green's Farm" in East Grinstead for the past 5 years. Dunnings Farm was adjacent to Saint Hill Manor and became part of Gibbs Crawfurd's estate when he married Anna Payne in 1760. Not surprisingly, I found that "Green F." [Green Farm] was also adjacent to Saint Hill Manor, as illustrated in this map from 1795: <http://www.theweald.org/m00.asp?PicIdto=50808306> However, buildings on this map are not consistently labeled so it is not possible to say exactly what the boundaries of "Green F." farm were or even if it lay on the west or east side (or both sides?) of the road from East Grinstead to West Hoathly. This is the *only* reference that I have been able to find for "Green's Farm" or "Green Farm" so far. "Green's Farm" was probably the unnamed property shared by William Streater and Abraham Huggett by 1780 until 1786, as documented in the annual tax rolls. Any other references would be greatly appreciated! Given the lack of other references for "Green Farm" or "Green's Farm," I am presuming that the farm was known by other names prior to the 1770s and after 1795. Can anyone familiar with the area identify the current names of properties in this immediate area to enable further research? I love Google Maps but you can't search for what you don't know! Here is my customized Google Map which shows approximately where "Green Farm" would be located today, in reference to Saint Hill Manor, Saint Hill Green and what was Dunnings Farm: <http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=104293632703108 193753.000442f0f14a388d5af5c&t=p&z=10> Thanks for your help! Perry