Julie Goucher wrote: > Great news Connie. Does your Sussex line meander over the border to Surrey? Not that I've found so far. I'm still looking. I keep getting interrupted. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Thanks to Andy I contacted the National Army Museum re the problem I have below mainly to try and find out the parentage of Lionel George Becher. Unfortunately they could not help and suggested many avenues I have already gone down since I started in 1990, Nat. Archives, Archives, British Library, Parish registers, online record, Ancestry etc... He was my 5xGt Grandfather and my research shows that he was an ensign in the Third Regiment of Foot in 1722 in Kensington. commanded by Lord Dunmore. I have an entry but no indication of his father or who paid for the commission which is unusal as most others had 'son of' or sponsored by etc. and commissions were very costly. He seems to have been involved in some kind of dispute re the selling on of his commission in 1723 and other dates from documents I have just found at the Nat Archives. He was married in 1725 in the Fleet Prison Chapel to Anne Lake, the illigitimate daughter of General Henry Lumley (b 1658 d 1722) and she is mentioned in his will, she died in 1739 possibly aged about 30 in childbirth giving birth to twin daughters in Sonning, Berks..They also had a older daughter and a son(my 4th Gt Grandfather) In 1739 he volunteered for Colonel Wynyards Marines from half pay and was promoted to Lt Capt, He died in 1741 in Cartegena. From letters he appears to not have been avery good husband and gambled her fortune away which she inherited from her father. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated to determine his Father, who could be Lionel Becher of Sherkin (b 1686 d 1772 in Cork) whose will I have but no mention of my Lionel although mentiion is made of a second son Edward.. I have Burkes Pedigree. from Wills. George 1sts Army mentions this Lionel but also confuses him with my Lionel datewise. Very many thanks. Eileen. >----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Hedgcock" <andy701@blueyonder.co.uk> > > You could get in touch with the National Army Museum here in London - > http://www.nam.ac.uk/contact-us > > I haven't been able to find a precise definition of drypike. Obviously > there's a lot for 'pike' online but I can't interpret for a 'drypike'. > > If you find out let us know. > > HTH > Andy > > > the message

Greetings Listers I have two entries from the old IGI saying that Richard REED and Thomas REED were baptised in Ringmer on 2 Feb 1692(3), sons of William REED and Alice. I've checked the SFHG database for Ringmer and found Richard, but there's no sign of Thomas. I am descended from both of them, with a great-grandson of one marrying a great-grand-daughter of the other, this couple being my 3 x ggps. This later event was in Alfriston. Does anyone know how I can find some more certain information about Thomas's baptism and parents please? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Greetings Listers I had my computer cleaned and looked at for problems recently. Since then, each time I do a search on FamilySearch, I get a message to say no records for the query I've made. I even tried SMITH with a general reference and same result! I've been trying to find how to contact FamilySearch to ask if I should re-download (as well as contacting 'my computer man') as I'm wanting to verify some Sussex records I copied from the old IGI. Does anyone know an address to contact please? I'll post a separate message to see if someone knows the answer re may Sussex family I'm working on just now. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Hi Pam, Ringmer has an online parish clerk - http://www.sussex-opc.org/index.php?cy=1&at=0&n=ringmer&SubmitFrm=Refresh&t=parish&a=&no=6&l=&b=index.php She may be able to help. hth, Anne ---------------------------------------- > From: cliveden@iinet.net.au > To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 15:58:59 +1000 > Subject: [SXP] REED family of Alfriston and maybe Ringmer. > > Greetings Listers > > I have two entries from the old IGI saying that Richard REED and > Thomas REED were baptised in Ringmer on 2 Feb 1692(3), sons of William REED > and Alice. > > I've checked the SFHG database for Ringmer and found Richard, > but there's no sign of Thomas. I am descended from both of them, with a > great-grandson of one marrying a great-grand-daughter of the other, this > couple being my 3 x ggps. This later event was in Alfriston. > > Does anyone know how I can find some more certain information > about Thomas's baptism and parents please? > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further - there is a reference here. http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/arch-1132-1/dissemination/pdf/060/060_095_136.pdf "There is another expression of rare occurrence which is referred to in t he reign of Elizabeth, and that is " a dry Pike." In 1589, under date September 7, are mentioned several orderings of soldiers employed in the late Portugal Voyage, such as harquebusier, dry pike, armed pike, musketeer. Of these the harquebusier's pay was 20s. per month, his coat cost 10s. and his caliver, flask and furniture 13s. 4cl. The dry pike received the same pay, but his coat cost 13s. 4d., and his armament consisted of a dry pike, sword and dagger costing 8s. 6d. The armed pike had similar pay, but his coat cost only 10s., and his pike and corslet cost 25s. From this it seems that the .dry pike wore no armour but had a costlier coat. This might well be, as it was his exterior garment, and not hidden by armour such as the arming doublet was. Anyhow it is an unusual expression." ----- Original Message ----- From: "PMR" <cliveden@iinet.net.au> To: "SSX-PLUS - Mailing List" <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 1:47 AM Subject: [SXP] Drypike > Greetings Listers > > In a Muster taken in 1614 in Hastings, my ancestor is listed as > having 1 Drypike. > > What is a drypike? Are there images of one available please? > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam You could get in touch with the National Army Museum here in London - http://www.nam.ac.uk/contact-us I haven't been able to find a precise definition of drypike. Obviously there's a lot for 'pike' online but I can't interpret for a 'drypike'. If you find out let us know. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "PMR" <cliveden@iinet.net.au> To: "SSX-PLUS - Mailing List" <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 1:47 AM Subject: [SXP] Drypike > Greetings Listers > > In a Muster taken in 1614 in Hastings, my ancestor is listed as > having 1 Drypike. > > What is a drypike? Are there images of one available please? > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Listers In a Muster taken in 1614 in Hastings, my ancestor is listed as having 1 Drypike. What is a drypike? Are there images of one available please? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Hi again Sorry I omitted to say re Help At the top of all pages in familysearch is "Get Help" with a drop down menu They have various ways of getting in touch there Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/08/2013 06:53, PMR wrote: > Greetings Listers > > I had my computer cleaned and looked at for problems recently. > Since then, each time I do a search on FamilySearch, I get a message to say > no records for the query I've made. I even tried SMITH with a general > reference and same result! > > I've been trying to find how to contact FamilySearch to ask if I > should re-download (as well as contacting 'my computer man') as I'm wanting > to verify some Sussex records I copied from the old IGI. Does anyone know an > address to contact please? > > I'll post a separate message to see if someone knows the answer > re may Sussex family I'm working on just now. > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Hi Pam Are you using a bookmark ? Try https://familysearch.org/ The entry for Richard appears in the old IGI but is a patron submission so will not in be the new familysearch, I did not find the one for a Thomas Richard Read 2 February 1692 - Richard Read christening: 2 February 1692 Ringmer,Sussex,England William Read Alice Additional Information for Richard Read Sources (1) [Patron Submissions] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Citing This Record "International Genealogical Index (IGI)", database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MFDN-Z6T : accessed 2013-08-04), entry for Richard Read. ======= You can search the old IGI for either patron submissions (Community Contributed IGI) or (Community Indexed IGI) by selecting United Kingdom and Ireland from the Browse records at the foot of the search histrocal records home page Where is says filter by collection name, just enter IGI On familysearch there are to William and Alice Elizabeth REED 1698 Ringmer Isaac REED 1700 Ringmer Edward REED 1702 Ringmer And for just William John REED 1690 Framfield Elizabeth REED 1692 Framfield Thomas REED 1694 Framfield James REED 1696 Framfield (also a burial 1696 Framfield) Which suggests they were in Framfield and moved to Ringmer (some 8 miles apart) around 1696 - 1698 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 04/08/2013 06:58, PMR wrote: > Greetings Listers > > I have two entries from the old IGI saying that Richard REED and > Thomas REED were baptised in Ringmer on 2 Feb 1692(3), sons of William REED > and Alice. > > I've checked the SFHG database for Ringmer and found Richard, > but there's no sign of Thomas. I am descended from both of them, with a > great-grandson of one marrying a great-grand-daughter of the other, this > couple being my 3 x ggps. This later event was in Alfriston. > > Does anyone know how I can find some more certain information > about Thomas's baptism and parents please? > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Hi Pam You are looking at the London Chatham & Dover Railway Company which ran the lines through North Kent to Dover, which was in competition with the South Eastern Railway for the cross channel traffic through Dover and Folkstone. Their competition eventually virtually bankrupted both companies and they effectively merged under a joint operating committee in the 1890s. Horses were widely used by railway companies for deliveries to and from stations and goods yards, and for shunting goods wagons. Until the late 19th century horses and steam engines were the only means of shifting heavy loads from A to B. In the 1950s a few horses were still used in goods yards and harbours. They were useful where yards had wagon turntables swhereby wagons could be moved from one track to another without using points which took up much more space. Best wishes David in Bexhill, E. Sussex, UK ------------------------------ > > Original Message: > From: "PMR" <cliveden@iinet.net.au> > > On a relatives 1867 Death Certificate, his occupation is given > as 'Horse Manager LCD Raily Comp (Railway Company?)'. > > Firstly, is Railway Company the correct interpretation of 'Raily > Comp'. > > Secondly, would someone know what LCD stands for please? > > Thirdly, what would horses be used for? > > ------------------------------

Hopefully, one of the following might help - not listed in any particular order: 1 Are you using the correct URL? This one works OK https://familysearch.org/ . 2 If you get as far as the Home page, look for 'Get Help' in the top right corner and you will then see a variety of contact options. 3 Have you tried the old IGI version of FamilySearch? It's at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi . 4 Are you using Internet Explorer? If so, try Tools, Internet Security, Security tab, click 'Sites' button and enter the URL from 1 above and click 'Add' button. Restart browser. 5 Make sure that your AV/firewall is not blocking downloads from the site. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

Hi Pam, Two websites that might be useful http://www.railwayancestors.org.uk/ http://www.southeasternandchathamrailway.org.uk/page6.html hth, Anne > From: cliveden@iinet.net.au > To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:19:19 +1000 > Subject: [SXP] LCD Railway Company > > Greetings Listers > > On a relatives 1867 Death Certificate, his occupation is given > as 'Horse Manager LCD Raily Comp (Railway Company?)'. > > Firstly, is Railway Company the correct interpretation of 'Raily > Comp'. > > Secondly, would someone know what LCD stands for please? > Searching the Internet brings up modern uses of LCD - not what I want at > all!! > > Thirdly, what would horses be used for? > > Many thanks. > > Cheers > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam, I think horse drawn trams ran on rails. Try looking at 1861 census. It may give some clues. Peter

Greetings Listers On a relatives 1867 Death Certificate, his occupation is given as 'Horse Manager LCD Raily Comp (Railway Company?)'. Firstly, is Railway Company the correct interpretation of 'Raily Comp'. Secondly, would someone know what LCD stands for please? Searching the Internet brings up modern uses of LCD - not what I want at all!! Thirdly, what would horses be used for? Many thanks. Cheers Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Peter R Booth wrote: > Connie, > > Often we try to weave stories around the facts. A certificate would > help, but may simply disprove your theory. > > All you can do is look at all likely William Goacher entries in the > various censuses and see if there is another possibility. > > I'd suggest you look closely at birthplaces. Are the two Ellen's born in > the same place? > > You might also check any submitted trees for William Goacher. Perhaps > somebody has already solved the problem. Hallo Thank you for your reply. It appears there were two different Williams who both married Ellens. Roger GOACHER put me straight. I will look at the trees on Ancestry and use them as guide to possibilities. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hi, Not sure where he died but at that time LCD Railway Co would be the London, Chatham and Dover Railway which was the 1859 renaming of the East Kent Railway Company founded the year previous. Horses were used to bring materials to site where they were building lines, stations and Motive Power Depots. Regards, Paul

Connie, Often we try to weave stories around the facts. A certificate would help, but may simply disprove your theory. All you can do is look at all likely William Goacher entries in the various censuses and see if there is another possibility. I'd suggest you look closely at birthplaces. Are the two Ellen's born in the same place? You might also check any submitted trees for William Goacher. Perhaps somebody has already solved the problem. Peter

Alan, Not sure what you're after. Perhaps you're just looking for relatives rather than specific research help. If you want the rest of the story from the Welcome Wall, I suggest you contact the site. For ancestors, you should be able to trace using FreeBMD and census records. FreeBMD will also have marriages and children of his brothers and sisters. They should all be on 1901 and 1911 census. I'd also look at submitted trees on sites like Ancestry and Rootsweb. WWI records may also be relevant. Peter

Hi Rod, Try this link http://uk.ask.com/wiki/Rape_(county_subdivision). Baronies appear to be slightly different http://uk.ask.com/wiki/Barony_(geographic) (although see the British History link below). Rapes do appear to be peculiar to Sussex. This may also help http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56907 although it does say that the present rape does not correspond to the original area. I would imagine that the records are held by ESRO (East Sussex Records Office) but will probably be in storage at the moment awaiting the opening of The Keep (new building) http://www.eastsussex.gov.uk/leisureandtourism/localandfamilyhistory/esro/default.htm hth, Anne > From: lynne.ingalls@comcast.net > To: rod.blaker@gmail.com; sussex-plus@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:49:08 -0700 > Subject: Re: [SXP] rapes versus baronies > > Rod - > > I had a look in the Dictionary of Genealogy, and it says a rape is a > subdivision of the county of Sussex. Doesn't mention the other counties, so > it must be peculiar to Sussex. You can Google Rape of Sussex and learn > more. In 1832, there were six Rapes: Hastings, Pevensey, Lewes, Bramber, > Arundel, and Chichester. > > Lynne in Tucson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Blaker > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:08 PM > To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SXP] rapes versus baronies > > dear list, > > I have ancestors in the first subsidies of the rapes of Lewes and Bramber; > (late 13th and early 14th centuries.) > > Can someone say: are "rapes" co-terminus with "Baronies" ? I know there > was a Rape and as well a Barony and Honor of Lewes; was there also one of > Bramber? Do these two rapes abut or were my ancestors so annoying as to > "skip" over a rape or a barony ? > > And can anyone say where would would look for the property rolls of these > rapes or baronies? > > Thank you. > > Rod Blaker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message