High All I am looking for the birth of an Edward Robinson about 1823 in Lewes, he says. His Mother was Sarah Robinson nee Taylor. He is with his Mother in 1851, she is now Sarah Heycock, Eve Ferguson

Dear Peter, Thank you for telling me about Charles Booth I have picked up some interesting articles about his association with George Palmer and the land involved. Great result from the list immediately. I see your latest enquirer mentioned Singleton in which I am also interested but much earlier. >From your latest listing I shall see if I can pick up somebody in the area in Sussex interested in its history. I have tried Stoughton but so far no luck. Like Sutherland here can mean the town or the shire it seems Stoughton is somewhat like. One tends to target in on the town/village not realising it may be a parish or a district. I have had the good fortune to find the local historian of Arklow in Ireland with great results. Lefayre.

Anne, What information do you have and what resources have you used? I think it's important to know so that I don't duplicate what's already been done. The marriage of James Osborne and Caroline Wells is after 1837, so should be in Civil Registrations on FreeBMD. Judging on ages, both should still be with parents in 1841. 1851 census should give birthplaces of both James and Caroline and also both sets of parents. Presumably they are still living and aged around 50. Pre 1837 records should be on the Family Search site. Have you looked there? I'm not sure if there is a parish for Charlton. There is no mention in IGI batches on the Archer Software site. Somebody local may have a better idea. Peter

Lefayre, Isn't there a Palmer Society or similar in Sydney? Apologies if you are already a member. My ggg grandfather Charles Booth was assigned to George Palmer, son of John Palmer. I've actually seen the Palmer book, but don't have a copy. It's been some years since last contact, but let me know if you get stuck and I'll try and track it down. Peter in Sydney

Hello listers I am new to this list and hope to find some Palmer relatives. We have traced back successfully to William Palmer died 1601 of Stoughton,West Sussex. The College of Arms and Debrett's have done some work for the combined family and mention is made of Singleton, Warblington and Westbourne. As John Palmer baptised Portsmouth 1760 who first came to Australia in 1788 as pusrer of MHS Sirius and later became the commissary general of the colony has the coat of arms of the Palmers of Wingham and Parham on his gravestone it is believed there is a connection to these families. There is a very old grave in bad condition at Warblington which also bears this coat of arms. Any information regarding these Palmer families that might help make the connection would be greatly appreciated. Lefayre

Hello I have just joined this list in the hope of finding out about the OSBORNE family from CHARLTON West Susses or SINGLETON. One member I am researching is JAMES OSBORNE born 1826 married to CAROLINE WELLS. Also, looking for his father also called JAMES married to MARY born 1801. Any help would be gratefully received. Anne Thompson

Greetings Listers Does anyone have a list of Vicars for All Saints' Hastings (and St Clement's too, if possible) for any years, but at the moment particulary for All Saints' in 1777, please? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Pam Having sent the last message I had another look at the site and found that if you use the Reference section there is a list of parishes and both All Saints and St Clement are listed on http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/reference/loclist_par.html?starts=H Regards John -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Hanson Sent: 11 September 2013 06:29 To: 'PMR'; 'SSX-PLUS - Mailing List' Cc: 'SFHG Mailing List' Subject: Re: [SXP] Vicar of All Saints' Hastings - 20 Jul 1777 Pam Assuming that you can ascertain the diocese that Hastings was in then you should be able to find it in the Clergy Database http://theclergydatabase.org.uk This has a search by Location as well as search by name. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PMR Sent: 10 September 2013 23:55 To: SSX-PLUS - Mailing List Cc: SFHG Mailing List Subject: [SXP] Vicar of All Saints' Hastings - 20 Jul 1777 Greetings Listers Does anyone have a list of Vicars for All Saints' Hastings (and St Clement's too, if possible) for any years, but at the moment particulary for All Saints' in 1777, please? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pam Assuming that you can ascertain the diocese that Hastings was in then you should be able to find it in the Clergy Database http://theclergydatabase.org.uk This has a search by Location as well as search by name. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PMR Sent: 10 September 2013 23:55 To: SSX-PLUS - Mailing List Cc: SFHG Mailing List Subject: [SXP] Vicar of All Saints' Hastings - 20 Jul 1777 Greetings Listers Does anyone have a list of Vicars for All Saints' Hastings (and St Clement's too, if possible) for any years, but at the moment particulary for All Saints' in 1777, please? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings Listers Chapter 7 of "The Smugglers" by Lord Teignmouth and Charles G Harper (published 1973) has this, among other things, to say about the Ruxley Gang in Hastings in the 18th century. Thirteen men were indicted in the Admiralty Court at the Old Bailey on Oct 30 1769 for piracy and murder on the high seas, namely: Thomas PHILLIPS, Elder and Younger, William & George PHILLIPS, Mark CHATFIELD,, Robert WEBB, Thomas & Samuel AILSBURY, James and Richard HYDE, William GEARY alias JUSTICE alias George WOOD, Thomas KNIGHT & William WENHAM and capitally convicted; of these, four - Thomas AILSBURY, William GEARY, William WENHAM & Richard HYDE - were hanged in the Tower of London at Execution Dock on Nov 27 1769. Thomas AILESBURY was the first husband of my 3 x ggm, Dorothy née PHILLIPS (who subsequently married Thomas DANIEL through whom I descend). I notice that there are four men named PHILLIPS - Thomas PHILLIPS the Elder, Thomas PHILLIPS the Younger, William PHILLIPS and George PHILLIPS. Can anyone help in finding out where these PHILLIPS guys fit into the large PHILLIPS family in Hastings please? Or where I should send an enquiry to find out more? Dorothy did have a brother called William (born 1732) but none called Thomas or George. The reference to Thomas Elder and Younger appears to indicate father and son, but not necessarily so. I'm wondering if any of these four is a fairly close relative of 3 x ggm Dorothy, given that her husband (Thomas Ailesbury) and possibly her brother-in-law (Samuel Ailesbury) were named. I've tried checking the Old Bailey records but with no success. Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Pam, I'm not sure if this family fits in, but I have a possible Thomas PHILLIPS bapt 19 Jul 1723 AS s/o William PHILLIPS & Mary FARR and in turn was the s/o William PHILLIPS & Elizabeth MOORE, which I think you will link into our line :-) Thomas married Mary HARLEY 11 Jan 1740/41 SC among their 11 children was son Thomas bapt 21 Sept 1750 SC, George bapt 7 Nov 1756 SC & William bapt 9 Apr 1758 AS Also found William GEERY who married Susanna PHILLIP b1747 d/o William PHILLIPS & Ann WHALES, this could be one, because Susanna was the gt. grand-daughter of William PHILLIPS & Elizabeth MOORE. Does this sound feasable? Best wishes, Frances On 09/09/2013 07:17, PMR wrote: > Chapter 7 of "The Smugglers" by Lord Teignmouth and Charles G > Harper (published 1973) has this, among other things, to say about the > Ruxley Gang in Hastings in the 18th century. > > Thirteen men were indicted in the Admiralty Court at the Old Bailey on Oct > 30 1769 for piracy and murder on the high seas, namely: Thomas PHILLIPS, > Elder and Younger, William & George PHILLIPS, Mark CHATFIELD,, Robert WEBB, > Thomas & Samuel AILSBURY, James and Richard HYDE, William GEARY alias > JUSTICE alias George WOOD, Thomas KNIGHT & William WENHAM and capitally > convicted; of these, four - Thomas AILSBURY, William GEARY, William WENHAM & > Richard HYDE - were hanged in the Tower of London at Execution Dock on Nov > 27 1769. > > Thomas AILESBURY was the first husband of my 3 x ggm, Dorothy > née PHILLIPS (who subsequently married Thomas DANIEL through whom I > descend). > > I notice that there are four men named PHILLIPS - Thomas > PHILLIPS the Elder, Thomas PHILLIPS the Younger, William PHILLIPS and George > PHILLIPS. > > Can anyone help in finding out where these PHILLIPS guys fit > into the large PHILLIPS family in Hastings please? Or where I should send an > enquiry to find out more? Dorothy did have a brother called William (born > 1732) but none called Thomas or George. The reference to Thomas Elder and > Younger appears to indicate father and son, but not necessarily so. > > I'm wondering if any of these four is a fairly close relative of > 3 x ggm Dorothy, given that her husband (Thomas Ailesbury) and possibly her > brother-in-law (Samuel Ailesbury) were named. > > I've tried checking the Old Bailey records but with no success. > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

The SFHG Events Team will be attending three events in West Sussex in the near future. We will have our SFHG databases with us and the ability to make online searches. So, if you are having a problem progressing your family history research or would like us to try and knock through the odd 'brick wall', why not come along and give us a try? Our motto is 'No reasonable request is ever refused'. Littlehampton Museum "Ask the Experts Day" on Saturday 21 September from 10.30am to 4.30pm. At the Manor House, Church Street, Littlehampton BN17 5EW. NB our bookstall will not be present at this event. Admission free, free parking adjacent to the Museum for two hours using disc obtainable from Museum reception. More information on their web site at http://www.littlehampton-tc.gov.uk/main.cfm?TYPE=museum . West Sussex Record Office "Big Open Day" on Saturday 28 September 10am to 4pm. At WSRO, 3 Orchard Street, Chichester, PO19 1DD. Admission free. Free car parking at the rear and pay-and-display parking across the road. Refreshments available. More information on their web site at http://www.westsussex.gov.uk/leisure/record_office_and_archives/outreach_ser vices/events.aspx#open . Storrington & District Museum "Family History Day" on Sunday 20 October from 10am to 4pm. At The Old School, School Lane, Storrington, RH20 4LL. Admission £2, free for children under 11. Adjacent free parking. Refreshments available. More information on their web site at http://storringtonmuseum.org/family_history . Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

Greetings Listers In the SFHG Database and the SMI, I have found only 6 entries for the surname MERYLAD. In Rye in the late 1540s and early-mid 1550s, 4 children were baptised, 2 sons and 2 daughters of Robert MERYLAD. The 5th entry is Robert's burial in 1557. The six entry is the marriage of the youngest child, Agnes or Anys, to John ALMOND in 1575. Agnes and John are ancestors of mine. Does anyone know of any other instances of MERYLAD in Sussex? As the Rye PRs are availabe from 1538, it would seem that Robert married elsewhere before moving to Rye. Can anyone suggest what variants I should be looking for when the surname is MERYLAD in Rye? Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Hi Pam I thought I'd saved a website that does offer suggestions but at the mo can't track it down. Will keep looking. You obviously know that a lot of websites will offer alternate spellings anyway. What you could do is enter it on the Family Search website as a basic search and just see what alternate spellings they offer, and then go off and do your own research on them. http://genealogy.about.com/od/name_changes/tp/spellings.htm - this is not aimed specifically at you but just a general intro to different variations. I'll keep searching - it must be somewhere! Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "PMR" <cliveden@iinet.net.au> To: "SSX-PLUS - Mailing List" <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:36 AM Subject: [SXP] Surname MERYLAD > Greetings Listers > > In the SFHG Database and the SMI, I have found only 6 entries > for the surname MERYLAD. > > In Rye in the late 1540s and early-mid 1550s, 4 children were > baptised, 2 sons and 2 daughters of Robert MERYLAD. The 5th entry is > Robert's burial in 1557. > > The six entry is the marriage of the youngest child, Agnes or > Anys, to John ALMOND in 1575. Agnes and John are ancestors of mine. > > Does anyone know of any other instances of MERYLAD in Sussex? > As > the Rye PRs are availabe from 1538, it would seem that Robert married > elsewhere before moving to Rye. > > Can anyone suggest what variants I should be looking for when > the surname is MERYLAD in Rye? > > Many thanks > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi June The Sussex Marriage Index CD has this marriage - no image just brief details. Both couples are ' of this parish' (i.e West Grinstead. No witnesses are mentioned on the entry. There is no other marriage on this disc for a Samuel Stiles/Styles. Emma ☺ On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM, June Figg <junefigg@btinternet.com> wrote: > Dear Listers > > > > My 3rd x great grand uncle is Samuel STILES baptised 8 July 1792 in > Wadhurst > Sussex to parents John STILES and Ann AVARD. STYLES not surprisingly varies > being spelt with a Y and an I. > > > > I have found a Samuel STYLES who marries Mary PESTIFIELD on 16 December > 1824 > in West Grinstead, Sussex, and they duly appear on the 1841, 1851, 1861 and > 1871 census until Samuel dies in 1875, staying in West Grinstead > throughout. > The question is, is he 'my' Samuel STILES. > > > > If anyone has access to parish records for West Grinstead for 1824, could > they please look up the marriage for me? Unfortunately there is no image on > familysearch.org. If the marriage records says Samuel STILES is 'of this > parish', then it may be the wrong person but hopefully it will conveniently > say 'of the parish of Wadhurst'. Or possibly the witnesses names will help > me tie it together. > > > > Here's hoping. > > > > Thanks June > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, I was hoping someone might be able to assist me in some handwriting translation: !891 Census for Horsham: Ref: RG 12/829, Folio 95, page 3, Line 17. Richard Shoobridge, single, aged 61. Where was he born? Horsham? And is this institution, the Horsham Workhouse? Thanks for any assistance, Peter, Melbourne, Australia

Dear Listers My 3rd x great grand uncle is Samuel STILES baptised 8 July 1792 in Wadhurst Sussex to parents John STILES and Ann AVARD. STYLES not surprisingly varies being spelt with a Y and an I. I have found a Samuel STYLES who marries Mary PESTIFIELD on 16 December 1824 in West Grinstead, Sussex, and they duly appear on the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 census until Samuel dies in 1875, staying in West Grinstead throughout. The question is, is he 'my' Samuel STILES. If anyone has access to parish records for West Grinstead for 1824, could they please look up the marriage for me? Unfortunately there is no image on familysearch.org. If the marriage records says Samuel STILES is 'of this parish', then it may be the wrong person but hopefully it will conveniently say 'of the parish of Wadhurst'. Or possibly the witnesses names will help me tie it together. Here's hoping. Thanks June

Peter - The census shows that Richard was an inmate at the Union Workhouse in the North Western Division of Horsham, and that he was born in Horsham. He was 61 and single, working as a general labourer. I've tried to e-mail you a copy of the census page. Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Peter Ryan Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 3:06 PM To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [SXP] RICHARD SHOOBRIDGE & 1891 Census for Horsham Hi All, I was hoping someone might be able to assist me in some handwriting translation: !891 Census for Horsham: Ref: RG 12/829, Folio 95, page 3, Line 17. Richard Shoobridge, single, aged 61. Where was he born? Horsham? And is this institution, the Horsham Workhouse? Thanks for any assistance, Peter, Melbourne, Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Anne Thanks for this. I'll have another look at COWDREY, see if I can glean anything from her details. This is part of my one-name-study, and unfortunately financial restraints means no more certs for the moment. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Capewell" <alc_goytre@hotmail.com> To: "SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com" <sussex-plus-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [SXP] Louisa Fanny GRINYER b1859 & Father William John CLARK > Hi Andy, > > > > Have you got a copy of the marriage cert? There is no guarnatee that what > you see online is an exact transcription of the register. On FreeBMD > Louisa has been recorded as Lorina Fanny Grinye(a)r Sep qtr Brighton vol > 2b page 341 > > > > William John Clark may or may not be her actual father. There are a number > of possibilities: > > 1. Louisa's mother remarried but Louisa did not take her step father's > name > > 2. Louisa's mother did not marry William Clark but Louisa wanted to name > him on the cert > > 3. Louisa was a widow - on FreeBMD there is a Lourina Fanny Cowdrey and a > Benjamin Grinyer Sep qtr 1877 Brighton vol 2b page 294 > > 4. Something even more complicated! > > > > My gx3 grandmother was not with her husband in 1841 but was apparently > living with another man. She did not have his surname but her children did > (they were not his children). Originally I thought that it was just a > mistake on the census but the children subsequently seemed to swap between > the surnames and some got married with their original name and others with > the second man's name. My gx2 grandmother whilst using her original > surname to marry named her father as a mixture of the second man's > forename and her actual father's surname. Nightmare to trace. > > > > My ggrandfather on the other side was illegitimate, was given up by his > mother to her brother and clearly regarded him as his father. Obviously > the surname was not an issue but his real father was named on his birth > cert. > > > > I think that you may have to invest in a few certificates to try and > unravel this one. > > > > hth, Anne > > > >> From: andy701@blueyonder.co.uk >> To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:20:28 +0100 >> Subject: [SXP] Louisa Fanny GRINYER b1859 & Father William John CLARK >> >> Hi all >> >> Alfred HEDGECOCK marries Louisa Fanny GRINYER on 10th Jul 1881 at St >> Peter, Brighton. Details taken from Source Citation: Place: Brighton, >> Sussex, England; Collection: St Peter; -; Date Range: 1876 - 1881; Film >> Number: 1067138, on Ancestry. >> >> Louisa's details are that she's 22, and father is William John CLARK. >> >> Alfred's death is registered in Dec 1881. >> >> I cannot find any details other than what I have here for Louisa, nor any >> reference to any children. No marriage of a CLARK to a GRINYER can be >> found. >> >> If anyone can provide any pointers for Louisa I'll be very grateful. >> >> Many thanks >> Andy >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Andy, Have you got a copy of the marriage cert? There is no guarnatee that what you see online is an exact transcription of the register. On FreeBMD Louisa has been recorded as Lorina Fanny Grinye(a)r Sep qtr Brighton vol 2b page 341 William John Clark may or may not be her actual father. There are a number of possibilities: 1. Louisa's mother remarried but Louisa did not take her step father's name 2. Louisa's mother did not marry William Clark but Louisa wanted to name him on the cert 3. Louisa was a widow - on FreeBMD there is a Lourina Fanny Cowdrey and a Benjamin Grinyer Sep qtr 1877 Brighton vol 2b page 294 4. Something even more complicated! My gx3 grandmother was not with her husband in 1841 but was apparently living with another man. She did not have his surname but her children did (they were not his children). Originally I thought that it was just a mistake on the census but the children subsequently seemed to swap between the surnames and some got married with their original name and others with the second man's name. My gx2 grandmother whilst using her original surname to marry named her father as a mixture of the second man's forename and her actual father's surname. Nightmare to trace. My ggrandfather on the other side was illegitimate, was given up by his mother to her brother and clearly regarded him as his father. Obviously the surname was not an issue but his real father was named on his birth cert. I think that you may have to invest in a few certificates to try and unravel this one. hth, Anne > From: andy701@blueyonder.co.uk > To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:20:28 +0100 > Subject: [SXP] Louisa Fanny GRINYER b1859 & Father William John CLARK > > Hi all > > Alfred HEDGECOCK marries Louisa Fanny GRINYER on 10th Jul 1881 at St Peter, Brighton. Details taken from Source Citation: Place: Brighton, Sussex, England; Collection: St Peter; -; Date Range: 1876 - 1881; Film Number: 1067138, on Ancestry. > > Louisa's details are that she's 22, and father is William John CLARK. > > Alfred's death is registered in Dec 1881. > > I cannot find any details other than what I have here for Louisa, nor any reference to any children. No marriage of a CLARK to a GRINYER can be found. > > If anyone can provide any pointers for Louisa I'll be very grateful. > > Many thanks > Andy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message