-------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [SXP] PRITCHARD Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:28:56 +0700 From: Paul Cheesman <paulc@truemail.co.th> To: 'Simon and Chris' <sandcbrickell@btinternet.com> Thanks, not heard of it! Regards, Paul -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon and Chris Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:15 PM To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SXP] PRITCHARD Don't forget that FreeCEN.org.uk might be worth a look as well as Ancestry or Find my Past, if you're searching in Censuses. Surrey has only just started appearing, but other counties have fuller data. Worth a try - and it's free, too! Simon and Chris Brickell FreeCEN Coordinators for Sussex www.FreeCEN Sussex Transcribers <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Essx1861> On 19/01/2014 23:13, sussex-plus-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > If you're not happy with the format of the Digest you can ask to be > switched to MIME format by contacting the list administrator on > sussex-plus-admin@rootsweb.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRICHARD (Connie) > 2. Re: PRICHARD (Peter R Booth) > 3. Re: PRICHARD (Paul Cheesman) > 4. Locating burials in Brighton (SHELL and HALLON) > (Peter J. Richardson) > 5. Re: Locating burials in Brighton (SHELL and HALLON) > (Marion Woolgar) > 6. Burials in Litlington two days apart (PMR) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:02:14 +0000 > From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SXP] PRICHARD > To: Paul Cheesman <paulc@truemail.co.th>, "'List SUSSEX'" > <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <52D65CA6.9060500@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 15/01/2014 08:28, Paul Cheesman wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am looking for parental details of BERNARD A'BEAR PRICHARD >> (1893-1957) died in Banstead, Surrey. >> >> I am "told' that his father was WILLIAM PRICHARD born either in >> Battersea or Little Ilford and his grandfather was ALFRED GEORGE >> PRICHARD who lived in Little Ilford at the time of the 1901 census >> with his brother NORMAN GEORGE PRICHARD. >> >> I have been away from genealogy for several years now and am slowly >> getting back into things. Could anyone let know how to check the 1901 Census? > The 1901 and 1911 censuses are available on FindMyPast and Ancestry. > They can be checked the same way as the 1841-1891 censuses. > > The big difference is that the 1911 has the actual household schedules > as completed by the family with additional information such as the > length of time the couple have been married and the number of children > still living and the number, if any, who've died. > > If you have a library near you which has Ancestry you could use that > if you don't have a subscription to that or to FindMyPast. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Back looking at families after a three year break! I am using FMP census records which I assume are complete but I have two missing persons . CHARLES PRICHARD (1833-1900) born Saint Saviours, Southwark/resident in Lambeth (1851-1900). No entry on 1841 census and strange entry in 1851 reading he is the brother a guy with a total different name (JAMES DAVEY)? LOUISA A PRICHARD (daughter of above, born 1871) born Lambeth/resident in Lambeth (1871). No entry in any subsequent census nor any death record. Any advice/help would be appreciated. Regards, Paul Cheesman (Bangkok)

Hi Paul It always helps to give the census page reference when known In this case the 1851 entry on Ancestry is as follows 1851 England Census about Charles Prichard Name: Charles Prichard Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Brother Gender: M (Male) Where born: Surrey, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Church County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration District: Lambeth Sub-registration District: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 13 Piece: 1572 Folio: 375 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age William Prichard 28 Mary Prichard 28 Robert Prichard 6 Mary Prichard 5 William Prichard 3wk James Davey 15 (apprentice to William the head of household) Charles Prichard 19 (brother to William the head of household)0 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1572; Folio: 375; Page: 41; GSU roll: 174806-174807. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/01/2014 07:34, Paul Cheesman wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Back looking at families after a three year break! I am using FMP census > records which I assume are complete but I have two missing persons . > > > > CHARLES PRICHARD (1833-1900) born Saint Saviours, Southwark/resident in > Lambeth (1851-1900). No entry on 1841 census and strange entry in 1851 > reading he is the brother a guy with a total different name (JAMES DAVEY)? > > > > LOUISA A PRICHARD (daughter of above, born 1871) born Lambeth/resident in > Lambeth (1871). No entry in any subsequent census nor any death record. > > > > Any advice/help would be appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > Paul Cheesman > > (Bangkok)

Don't forget that FreeCEN.org.uk might be worth a look as well as Ancestry or Find my Past, if you're searching in Censuses. Surrey has only just started appearing, but other counties have fuller data. Worth a try - and it's free, too! Simon and Chris Brickell FreeCEN Coordinators for Sussex www.FreeCEN Sussex Transcribers <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Essx1861> On 19/01/2014 23:13, sussex-plus-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > If you're not happy with the format of the Digest you can ask to be switched to MIME format by contacting the list administrator on sussex-plus-admin@rootsweb.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PRICHARD (Connie) > 2. Re: PRICHARD (Peter R Booth) > 3. Re: PRICHARD (Paul Cheesman) > 4. Locating burials in Brighton (SHELL and HALLON) > (Peter J. Richardson) > 5. Re: Locating burials in Brighton (SHELL and HALLON) > (Marion Woolgar) > 6. Burials in Litlington two days apart (PMR) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:02:14 +0000 > From: Connie <connie.sparrer@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [SXP] PRICHARD > To: Paul Cheesman <paulc@truemail.co.th>, "'List SUSSEX'" > <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <52D65CA6.9060500@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 15/01/2014 08:28, Paul Cheesman wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am looking for parental details of BERNARD A'BEAR PRICHARD (1893-1957) >> died in Banstead, Surrey. >> >> I am "told' that his father was WILLIAM PRICHARD born either in Battersea or >> Little Ilford and his grandfather was ALFRED GEORGE PRICHARD who lived in >> Little Ilford at the time of the 1901 census with his brother NORMAN GEORGE >> PRICHARD. >> >> I have been away from genealogy for several years now and am slowly getting >> back into things. Could anyone let know how to check the 1901 Census? > The 1901 and 1911 censuses are available on FindMyPast and Ancestry. > They can be checked the same way as the 1841-1891 censuses. > > The big difference is that the 1911 has the actual household schedules > as completed by the family with additional information such as the > length of time the couple have been married and the number of children > still living and the number, if any, who've died. > > If you have a library near you which has Ancestry you could use that > if you don't have a subscription to that or to FindMyPast. >

Greetings Listers A pair of my ancestors, Richard SURGEON and his wife Susan, were buried at St Michael's Church, Litlington, just two days apart. Susan was buried on 9th Aug 1697 and Richard on 11 Aug 1697. Does anyone know if there was a spate of burials in Litlington at this time? Maybe from a plague or some similar catastrophe? As far as I know, they had two sons - Richard born about 1680 (baptism not yet located) and Thomas baptised in Litlington on 1 Nov 1685. The marriage of Richard snr and Susan has not been located either. Richard jnr was also known as Richard SARGEANT (of various spellings!). Many thanks Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

It is important to remember that the entries in the Relationship column refer to the head of the household, not to the entry on the line above. So, in the case of Charles PRICHARD, he is shown on HO107/1572 folio 375b as the Brother of William PRICHARD, a Bootmaker who is married with children, whose entry appears as head of the household on the previous page, i.e. folio 375a. So, Charles PRICHARD, aged 19 and a Bootmaker, is not the brother of the apprentice, James DAVEY. For 1841, have you taken a look at the entry at ref HO107/1083/4 folio 47b? This is for Charles PRITCHARD aged 8, the son of William PRITCHARD, a Boot & Shoe Cleaver. The age is almost spot-on and the trade could well have been handed down from father to sons. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

I don't know much about the Brighton Cemeteries, but the last time that I enquired about a grave plot at Woodvale Cemetery, there was a charge of £15 for them to examine the register and find the entry plus £5 to provide a map showing the location of the plot. That was three years ago and so I expect that the charges have gone up since then. At that time, all the cemetery registers for Woodvale were still held by Brighton & Hove City Council and they had no plans to deposit them. I have just checked the ESRO catalogue on The Keep's web site and there is no mention of these registers. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

Hello all, I will be in Brighton briefly tomorrow and was thinking that I might like to try to locate my family there. I have a photograph of the grave of my great grandparents (James Thomas SHELL 1859-1940 and Louisa Augusta HALLON 1861-1945 his wife and some of their children including my grandfather Rupert John SHELL 1893-1947. My late uncle told me that the grave was "in the Main Cemetery near Elm Grove" which I assume from Google is probably Woodvale. I see from their website that there are some details at "Woodvale Lodge" but this is shut on a Saturday, but I thought I'd ask if anybody had any knowledge please of whether any of the local family history societies had collected information from which a look up might be possible, or whether the record office which is open might have some details of this and whether there are any other connected SHELLs or HALLONs in the area. Thanks in advance Peter

Paul, To check census records from Thailand, you'll need a subscription to either Ancestry or Find My Past. I doubt that there are many libraries or family history centres in Thailand where you might get free access. Depending on your planned usage, you might be better with a pay by the month option. But you'll need to formally advise if you want to cancel. Here's the family from 1901 census. 1911 is also available. William H Prichard 44 Emma K Prichard 46 Winifred J A B Prichard 14 Llewellyn A B Prichard 11 Bernard A B Prichard 7 William is a printer's reader, living at 5 Ganden Rd, Clapham. He looks to be born in Surrey, but it looks like a specific birthplace is not known. The rest of the family are born in London. You'll need to work backwards through earlier censuses to confirm prior generations. A free site for BMD records is FreeBMD. This should help find parents marriage, exact birth quarters and subsequent BMD events. Peter in Sydney

Many thanks. Regards, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Peter R Booth [mailto:pbo08596@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:52 PM To: Paul Cheesman; 'List SUSSEX' Subject: Re: [SXP] PRICHARD Paul, To check census records from Thailand, you'll need a subscription to either Ancestry or Find My Past. I doubt that there are many libraries or family history centres in Thailand where you might get free access. Depending on your planned usage, you might be better with a pay by the month option. But you'll need to formally advise if you want to cancel. Here's the family from 1901 census. 1911 is also available. William H Prichard 44 Emma K Prichard 46 Winifred J A B Prichard 14 Llewellyn A B Prichard 11 Bernard A B Prichard 7 William is a printer's reader, living at 5 Ganden Rd, Clapham. He looks to be born in Surrey, but it looks like a specific birthplace is not known. The rest of the family are born in London. You'll need to work backwards through earlier censuses to confirm prior generations. A free site for BMD records is FreeBMD. This should help find parents marriage, exact birth quarters and subsequent BMD events. Peter in Sydney

Hi all, I am looking for parental details of BERNARD A'BEAR PRICHARD (1893-1957) died in Banstead, Surrey. I am "told' that his father was WILLIAM PRICHARD born either in Battersea or Little Ilford and his grandfather was ALFRED GEORGE PRICHARD who lived in Little Ilford at the time of the 1901 census with his brother NORMAN GEORGE PRICHARD. I have been away from genealogy for several years now and am slowly getting back into things. Could anyone let know how to check the 1901 Census? Regards, Paul Cheesman (Thailand)

On 15/01/2014 08:28, Paul Cheesman wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking for parental details of BERNARD A'BEAR PRICHARD (1893-1957) > died in Banstead, Surrey. > > I am "told' that his father was WILLIAM PRICHARD born either in Battersea or > Little Ilford and his grandfather was ALFRED GEORGE PRICHARD who lived in > Little Ilford at the time of the 1901 census with his brother NORMAN GEORGE > PRICHARD. > > I have been away from genealogy for several years now and am slowly getting > back into things. Could anyone let know how to check the 1901 Census? The 1901 and 1911 censuses are available on FindMyPast and Ancestry. They can be checked the same way as the 1841-1891 censuses. The big difference is that the 1911 has the actual household schedules as completed by the family with additional information such as the length of time the couple have been married and the number of children still living and the number, if any, who've died. If you have a library near you which has Ancestry you could use that if you don't have a subscription to that or to FindMyPast. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hi all, I'd just like to thank you all for your help again, and let you know what I found in case anyone else runs across this family in future! I confirmed James as being the one listed as James GOLAND in the 1851 census (sent for his birth certificate which listed his mother as Eleanor GOLDING, father blank) in Udimore - the family consisting of: James GOLAND head 50 Ruth do Wife 50 Eleanor do Daugh 28 (James' mother) Charles do Son 17 John do Son 12 Stephen do Son 7 James do Grandson 2 I had tried to follow him up in the 1861 census, without success, so looked to Eleanor, and found a marriage for her in 1851 to Edmund BALLARD. I then found the family, including James all under the BALLARD name (with further children) in the 1861 census in Brede, and in 1871 without James. I have not yet located James in the 1871 census. James GOLDING is then recorded as joining the army (Royal Horse Artillery) in 1873 and being discharged in 1875 as not fit for further duty. In 1878 he marries Ruth SNOOK in Eastbourne, Sussex, and is listed with her and a number of children in the 1881 and 1891 census. I believe he died in 1897 in Eastbourne. Our direct line is through his son Stephen, my husband's grandfather. Many thanks once again, Louise On 30 December 2013 21:44, park louise <medionemeton@blueyonder.co.uk>wrote: > Hi all, > > New to the list and looking for some help piecing together my husband's > family. > > I have Stephen GOLDING b 7 Oct 1891 Eastbourne, d 1961 Gilling West, > Richmond, N Yorks. > His father was James GOLDING b Q1 1849 Rye, Udimore, Sussex, ? d Q4 1897 > Eastbourne, Sussex, m Q4 1878 Eastbourne, Sussex to Ruth SNOOK b 1852 > Langport, South Somerset. > > I am trying to trace James' parents. > > I suspect that James' father is Robert GOLDING b 1821 or 1822 in Udimore, > Sussex, who is recorded in the 1851 census in Hastings, Sussex as a groom > at Bohemia St. However, there is no sign anywhere in the census (I have > searched the whole census, not just locally) of James or of any wife to > Robert. > > Anyone have any suggestions? I have even tried searching for them in the > Scottish census as there are family stories of links to Scotland. This is > my first time tackling the English system as almost all my own family are > Scottish. > > TIA > Louise > (Researching Golding, Goldsbrough, Bell, Stockdale) > > > >

Hello to Sussex-Plus folks I notice a researcher on Ancestry looking for data on the THORNS family in Cowfold and area Since my WHITE family is cnnected to this Thorns family I suggest the peraon with the Thorns Tree contact me as I have a good size tree I could share (480Kb) Phil White of New Hampshire USA Roots in Sussex and IOW

Greetings Listers This seems to be my SHAW line in Sussex - with Horsham the dominant parish. 1. Mary SHAW (Bp 22 Apr 1627 Horsham; Bd 12 Mar 1690(1) Horsham) md 1) Benjamin WOOLVIN; 2) Jeremy POTTER 23 Feb 1646(7) Horsham 2. d/o James SHAW (**Bp cir 1590** Horsham?) & Margery POLLARD (Bd 27 Nov 1638 Horsham) 3. s/o James SHAW (**Bp cir 1565** Horsham?) & UNKNOWN 4. s/o James SHAW (Bp 9 Apr 1543 Horsham) & UNKNOWN 5. s/o James SHAW (B cir 1510; Bd 21 Feb 1592/3 Horsham) & Rose UNKNOWN (Bd 14 Mar 1577/8 Horsham) 6. s/o Richard SHAW (B cir 1485; Bd 22 Jan 1543(4) Horsham) & UNKNOWN (Bd bef Prs start 1541) However, there are two baptisms missing - that of James born cir 1565 and that of his possible son James born cir 1590, and a few missing marriages too. Generations 1 and 2 are OK but I could have some of the others wrong. With the predominance of Horsham before and after, it leads me to wonder if they were all born and/or died in Horsham. I would appreciate any help in sorting out this SHAW family. Many thanks. Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia.

On 07/01/2014 17:04, Marion Woolgar wrote: > I think that it's the difference between clicking the 'Reply' button and the > 'Reply All' button. On some Rootsweb lists, you click the 'Reply' button > and any message automatically goes to the List; on other lists, like > Sussex-Plus, you have to click on 'Reply All' to achieve the same thing. > It's something that often catches me out. Sussex is set so that if you click on Reply it goes only to the sender of the message (you). If you click on Reply All it goes to the sender of the message /and/ the list. Some lists are set so that clicking on either Reply or Reply All goes to the list. I always chose Reply All for that reason. I can always take out any addresses I don't want to send to. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

You could be right Marion The way I have always used the lists is to use Reply All every time and should there be addresses I don't want to send to I delete them Should it come up with the original posters address and the list, it doesn't matter as Mailman will only send one copy to the original poster But regardless of the set up, I always check the *To* address before sending My fear is that with so few posts, there will come a time when the lists are deemed to be superfluous and support will cease, that will be a sad day So I guess all I am suggesting to all, is use it or lose it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/01/2014 17:04, Marion Woolgar wrote: > Nivard wrote: > <Firstly I am baffled as to why people mail off list for this type of thing > that others would be able to help with, that is one of the benefits of being > on any list>. > > I think that it's the difference between clicking the 'Reply' button and the > 'Reply All' button. On some Rootsweb lists, you click the 'Reply' button > and any message automatically goes to the List; on other lists, like > Sussex-Plus, you have to click on 'Reply All' to achieve the same thing. > It's something that often catches me out. > > Best wishes, > > Marion Woolgar > Bognor Regis, West Sussex

Nivard wrote: <Firstly I am baffled as to why people mail off list for this type of thing that others would be able to help with, that is one of the benefits of being on any list>. I think that it's the difference between clicking the 'Reply' button and the 'Reply All' button. On some Rootsweb lists, you click the 'Reply' button and any message automatically goes to the List; on other lists, like Sussex-Plus, you have to click on 'Reply All' to achieve the same thing. It's something that often catches me out. Best wishes, Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

Found it. David Railton -----Original Message----- From: David Railton [mailto:railton.david@btinternet.com] Sent: 07 January 2014 12:03 To: 'sussex-plus@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SXP] PCC Wiils on Ancestry I have Ancestry UK Premium and I see 'Abstracts of probate acts in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury' which I think have been on-line for some time but where do I find 'New and Updated list England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 1012964 (records) (released) Yesterday'. I don't see it under Wills & Probate and I don't see any 'New & Updated' list. Can anyone please help? Thank you David Railton -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 07 January 2014 10:37 To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SXP] PCC Wiils on Ancestry Hi Marion & all Firstly I am baffled as to why people mail off list for this type of thing that others would be able to help with, that is one of the benefits of being on any list The latest release now shows in the New and Updated list "England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 1012964 (records) (released) Yesterday Its part of the UK record sets, not sure if the essentials level has it but Premium or Worldwide will I would disagree with you re Ancestry and speed of informing researchers of newly added data, after several years their normal mode of operation is to release it and them tell subscribers by a message on their home page a day or usually more after release, personally I prefer this approach Unlike some other sites that *say* they *will* release XYZ and then don't But all in all its a very important database for our research and greatly welcomed Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/01/2014 10:11, Marion Woolgar wrote: > I have had a number of E-mails overnight from people who are not able > to find the new PCC Wills database on Ancestry. > > Firstly, I'm not sure what subscriptions it is on. I currently have > the full subscription, thanks to receiving a Christmas present of FTM > 2014 that comes with a 6-month subscription to the Ancestry World > package. Ancestry are not normally slow to publicise their new > releases, so I have been looking for an Ancestry press release about > the PCC Wills, but I can't find one at present. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David It does show in the "View all new records" from the home page You may not see the new banner ad on the home page if you are using a bookmark OR Log in and select search from the top bar menu, from the drop down menu then select card catalogue Enter the word Canterbury and it should be the first in the list Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/01/2014 12:02, David Railton wrote: > I have Ancestry UK Premium and I see 'Abstracts of probate acts in the > Prerogative Court of Canterbury' which I think have been on-line for some > time but where do I find 'New and Updated list England & Wales, Prerogative > Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 1012964 (records) (released) > Yesterday'. I don't see it under Wills & Probate and I don't see any 'New & > Updated' list. > > Can anyone please help? > > Thank you > > David Railton