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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:58:04 -0400 "Gail Collins" <gcollins@becon.org> wrote: Hello Gail, > and his family are living but it does not list the names of the > Cottages, Vicarage, etc. on page 13. Do other pages list such places? Earlier, and subsequent pages have the street name. Some houses are specifically named. As you know, page 13 has no names. Neither does page 12, but page 11 does. The last mentioned place/street name is Canada. Looking at http://www.streetmap.co.uk for the area around West Dean leads me to believe that the Canada is now known as "Canada Cott[age]s" about 1/2 mile north of West Dean. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Junk floats on polluted water Hong Kong Garden - Siouxsie & The Banshees
Images sent off list. Sally-Ann -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gail Collins Sent: 10 September 2007 20:58 To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SXP] 1861 Census Is it possible for someone who uses Ancestry.com to send me pages 10 to 15 of the 1861 Census for West Dean near Chichester OR to tell me if names of the cottages, vicarage, etc are listed? I was trying to ascertain where my family lived in 1861. It was suggested to me by a list member that the census taker followed a route when gathering the information. I do have a copy of page 13 where my George COUZENS, Post Office, Shoemaker & Bakery, and his family are living but it does not list the names of the Cottages, Vicarage, etc. on page 13. Do other pages list such places? With sincere thanks GAIL in Ontario ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Why would a pereson be a boarder in the Poor house in Westfield, occupation Ag. Lab. The rest of his family are living in the School Cottage in Ore. Was this a common thing if he had nowhere else to live. Do any other listers have the same situation. Many thanks. Judy Berntsen New Zealand
Can someone please tell me whether there is anywhere in Sussex that holds the records of marriages in the early 1900's. I am looking for a marriage of Charles Oak who was born in 1881 in Hastings. Would they give the name of the parents or just the father of the groom. I have found 3 marriages on Free BMD but might not be any of them. Thanks for any help given. Regards Judy Berntsen New Zealand
Alison Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Folkington, East Sussex, Date: 24 Feb 1812: Subject: George BRADFORD, Arlington Spouse: Harriet CHAPMAN, otp (B) Regards Jackie -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Alison PAGE Sent: 10 September 2007 18:22 To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SXP] Parents of William Bradford? hi list I have a William Bradford who married Rebeca Ripley in 1843 in Hailsham. >From census records William seems to have been born c1823 in Arlington. On the marriage certificate his father is listed as George. I am trying to discover the names of George's wife and any other children. Can anyone help? Thanks Alison _________________________________________________________________ Can you see your house from the sky? Try Live Search Maps http://maps.live.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
THANK YOU so veryyyy much Sally It is very much appreciated. I couldn't reply to the attachments so am using the list Sincerely GAIL in Ontario
hi list I have a William Bradford who married Rebeca Ripley in 1843 in Hailsham. >From census records William seems to have been born c1823 in Arlington. On the marriage certificate his father is listed as George. I am trying to discover the names of George's wife and any other children. Can anyone help? Thanks Alison _________________________________________________________________ Can you see your house from the sky? Try Live Search Maps http://maps.live.com
Is it possible for someone who uses Ancestry.com to send me pages 10 to 15 of the 1861 Census for West Dean near Chichester OR to tell me if names of the cottages, vicarage, etc are listed? I was trying to ascertain where my family lived in 1861. It was suggested to me by a list member that the census taker followed a route when gathering the information. I do have a copy of page 13 where my George COUZENS, Post Office, Shoemaker & Bakery, and his family are living but it does not list the names of the Cottages, Vicarage, etc. on page 13. Do other pages list such places? With sincere thanks GAIL in Ontario
Image sent off list On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 18:55:20 +0100, "Heather Brooks" <heather.brooks@virgin.net> said: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helen Shipley" <natbrent@fastmail.fm> > To: "Heather Brooks" <heather.brooks@virgin.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 6:59 AM > Subject: Re: [SXP] Thomas Wheeler 1861/71 cencus > > > > image attached > > > > > > > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 06:51:57 +0100, "Heather Brooks" > > <heather.brooks@virgin.net> said: > >> Hi, Thomas Wheeler born Aymestrey, Hereford 1830, wife Ann born Wales > >> 1829 . Would like to find them in 1871 census, children Thomas, Eliza, > >> Elizabeth and George, John, Fanny and Arthur. Many thanks to Helen who > >> found him at Hereford in 1861>> Regards, Heather Brooks > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Helen > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Helen
Hello Tony; I have a list of BAKERs born in Hailsham. The only James I have however, died shortly after he was born in 1872. The 1844 birthdate could make your James a son of Isaac BAKER, but I am quite sure I have all of his children's names. Your James could also have been the son of my Isaac BAKER'S brother (same as a cousin to Edwin Issac BAKER), but I have almost nothing on Isaac BAKER - that's where my solid brick wall is. You can also check my website for more details on this lineage - http://www.sussex-uk-ancestors.com. I'll keep hunting! Susan Guhm Great Granddaughter of Edwin Isaac BAKER froggybywater@comcast.net --------------------------- Isaac BAKER (1810-1882) married Sarah (LAMBERT) (1805-1881) children: Margaret (BAKER) (b. 1836) Edwin Isaac BAKER (1837-1912) married Mary (HUNNISETT) (1843-1887) children: Amy S. (BAKER) (b. 1866) Edwin William BAKER (1867-1875) Ernest BAKER (b. 1869) Ruth (BAKER) (b. 1870) James BAKER (1872-1872) Margaret (BAKER) (1874-1887) Thomas Samuel BAKER (1875-1875) Emma Mary (BAKER) (b. 1877) Alice H. (BAKER) (b. 1880) Nellie (BAKER) (b. 1882) George Joseph BAKER (1884-1970) married Edna May (BARNES) Frances Y. (BAKER) (b. 1839) Caleb J. BAKER (b. 1841) George BAKER (b. 1843) Mary R. (BAKER) (b. 1845) Emma J. (BAKER) (b. 1847) Ruth (BAKER) (b. 1849) married George COLWELL ------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:24:32 +0200 (CEST) From: tony baker <tony@tbakerakf.orangehome.co.uk> Subject: [SXP] BAKER Lewes & HARGREAVES Newhaven To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8076899.206901189337072807.JavaMail.www@wwinf3207> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 In a further attempt to break through my very sturdy BAKER brick wall I list my Grandfathers parents & siblings, plus a recent development re finding a marriage of one of his sisters. James BAKER b: 25 Nov 1844 Hailsham, Sussex (My Great Grandfather) +Sarah Rose Hannah DURHAM b: Abt. 1859 Headington Rose Elizabeth BAKER 24 Nov 1878 Headington Quarry, Oxford Beatrice May BAKER b: Bef. Dec 1880 Lewes Benjamin Emmanuel BAKER b: Bef. Dec 1880 Lewes James Philip BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1883 Lewes Clara BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1885 Lewes Lucy BAKER b: Bef. Jun 1887 Lewes Bessie BAKER b: Bef. Dec 1889 Lewes Florence Ruth BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1892 Lewes Alice Emma BAKER b: 02 Feb 1894 Lewes Charles Arthur BAKER b: 02 Feb 1894 Lewes, d: 1975 Hawkhurst, Kent (My Grandfather) *Ethel Phylis Ansell BAKER b: Bef. Jan 1897 Lewes Frederick Durham BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1900 Lewes Lilian Mabel Snow BAKER b: Bef. Jun 1903 Lewes *Ethel BAKER married Ernest HARGREAVES b: 1881 Newhaven, on 29 Jun 1918 in Lewes, I?ve not yet found any children. Ernest HARGREAVES was b: 1881 Newhaven, son of James Bury HARGREAVES b: Abt 1822 Whalley, Lancs and Harriet Bellchambers b: Abt 1838 Haywards Heath. I?m attempting this bit of lateral & forward research in the hope of making a small hole in my brick wall and if any of this rings any tiny bells I?d love to hear them too! Many thanks for listening Tony
Hi To All Sussex Listers. I live in Victoria, Australia and would like to appeal to the local people who may be able to help find the burial places of my G.G. Grandparents, Jane & Frederick MILES. Jane MILES died on 20 Jan 1927 and Frederick MILES on 22 Aug 1932, they both died at Wardsdown Farm, Flimwell, Ticehurst in East Sussex, England. Can anyone help please? Is there a central register for burials or cremations in the area? I would appreciate some help with this as I have been searching for some time now. Hope to hear from some kind soul soon. Kind Regards, Anne. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: 9/9/2007 10:17 AM
I am the co-coordinator of the SussexGenWeb Page, a part of the BritishGenWeb Project. If any Lister would like their web page, (pertaining to Sussex Names) added to this site please email me with a brief description of the site and names being researched. I will be publishing a "Research Help" page so if any Lister has a brick wall related to Sussex, please email me with the details and I will add it to the site. Regards, Terri Researching Anderson and Cutler
Just wanted to say a public thank you to several people who have replied to me re John(Frederick) WALDER - especially... Geoff, Heather, Pam, Jane and Margaret. Your interest and help is very much appreciated, believe me. We're working on Frederick or John....as you do! The best bet at the moment is a John bap 4 May 1857 Rogate, but with parents John and Mary Ann instead of William as on the marriage certificate I have. Finding a birth reference for the John above is my main aim. Thank you everyone... Suzie (from Orkney)
Hi Suzie, Ive been trying to unravel your problem for you. Im researching Walders of Rogate and my great grandparents were Alfred and Maria (maiden name Hoare by the way) whose son Frederick was baptised on 5th April 1857. He was still in the area in 1906 because he was present at Alfreds death according to the death certificate but of course he could have been visiting. His address was Terwick but then so was his fathers, so that doesnt mean much. I havent done much research on him, my direct ancestor was Ernest Charles Walder who was my grandfather and also of course Alfreds and Marias son. Where does the name Frederick come in? Ive seen the marriage entry for John Walden at St Geo Hanover Sq in 1884 but no mention of Frederick. John Walder son of William and Elizabeth was baptised at Rogate on 6th April 1851(again part of my family) and William died in Rogate in September 1881. There was also a John Walder son of John and Mary Walder baptised at Rogate on 4th May 1856. Could that have been him? The surname Walder was also Waller in the Rogate area so have you tried Waller? Also people who said they were born in Rogate were often born (or at least baptised) in Terwick which is just outside Rogate and as far as I can see contains a church and a few farms etc but not much else. Lovely area though! Im not sure if this is helpful to you but it might help to eliminate someone. Good luck Margett
Pam. Just home from working all day so need time to get my head round the information you sent and what you have suggested. It's all a bit complicated. I have also found a John WALDER bap Rogate 4 May 1856 with parents John & Mary Ann. Date-wise this one fits well apart from the father's name! The Frederick WALDER bap 5 Apr 1857 to Alfred & Maria married someone else, so he's not mine. Will ponder this further and get back to you. Many many thanks. Suzie (from Orkney) ----- Original Message ----- From: "pamhillier" <pamhillier@iprimus.com.au> To: <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [SXP] Frederick WALDER Hi Suzie The only marriage I can find with a harriett Sotherden around the time frame is St George Hanover Square London in 1884 to a John Walden. NOT Walder...... No births for a John or Frederick Waldon/Walden found. NOTE an r is often mistranscribed as an n and vica versa. Is this the correct marriage? Freebmd has three Frederick J Walder's - none for the time frame anywhere Just Frederick Walder, there is one "registered" Midhurst on the border of Hampshire and Sussex 2b,page 341 red March Q. Midhurst in only 5.1 miles from Rogate. bearing in mind that nothing in truly complete this is the best so far. You could order the Birth certificate with the stipulation that the father is William. He could well have been registered late. I have to go through this logically from start to finish, so may be a bit bothersome. To get it right in my head. 1861 census No Frederick Walder at all. three Johns. One is with an Uncle Richard, Father John and Mother Mary with siblings. John and Richard Farmers born Horsham which is 23 miles from Rogate (although Rogate might be a red herring) Down the street Soloman Wlader and Family. The other parents Peter and Fanny born 1854, the last born 1860 too late according to the marriage (presuming the marriage is correct). 1871 census, nothing that stands out apart from Alfred and Maria... BUT on the upside on the 1881 census has a John, living St George Hanover as a Servant, which is likely the John Walder that married Harriett St George Hanover 1884. UNMARRIED......which ties in with the 1884 marriage Age is correct - born 1855. Born Petworth which is only 10.6 miles from Rogate. AND in 1891 the same John Walder in St George Hanover as a servant,(groom) this time married........born rogate Ssx at 4 Grantham Place, St Geo Han, servant right age So this John Walder is the one that married Harriett Sotherden in St George Hanover 1884 I have had this time and again in Sussex.........giving different places as their place of birth, when in fact all the places they name are within cooee of each other as we say in Oz. I suggest your next step is to get the Parish registers for all these places and make a database of Walder's from Rogate, Petworth. At one I am sure you will find the parents William and whomever. Ok the fly in this ointment is....there is a Harriett Welder 1891 CENSUS, St George Hanover, 44 born Chichester Sussex.....single......however, many females in service gave their status as single to prevent being "let go". Because you have found harriett with kids in 1891 I can only suggest that the research I have done, either suggests there is another option OR to discount the ones I found, which may help in the scheme of things. You do not give Harrietts age or place of birth, the children's names so I can go no further. I just followed through from the Freebmd, to the IGI to the censuses. You of course must have more information to come to the conclusions you have. The ages and places and marriage all fits for mine. BUT without more in depth info I cannot go further. One other thought to put the cat amongst the pigeons. Frederick J's father may have fone by his second christian name also. Oh yes I have found this too. I suugest you do like most of us do and wade through the Parish registers for the most likely places. Rogate especially seeing as both you and I have found TWO John Walder's from Rogate with possible wives Harriett. Probably cousins. So this is the obvious next course. Time consuming but worth it. Also do petworth. A few birth certificates might not go astray to ensure ytou are not barking up the wrong tree, literally. I hope I have not confused you. You obviously came from harrietts direction as I came from John/Fredericks with limitations of what you told us. But there are some variables. It's given you something to ponder, and something to discount or add into the equation. there are two Johns, 1891 census......... Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia >I am new to this list and doing some research for a friend. > > Is anyone researching WALDER? I am getting in a muddle with them and need > a > little guidance, please! > > I have a Frederick J WALDER who married Harriet SOTHERDEN in 1884. > Frederick, who was down as John on the certificate, said he was 29 on the > marriage certificate which gives a birth year of 1855. He also said his > father was William (deceased). > > A William WALDER married an Elizabeth WALDER which confuses things even > more! > They did not have a child Frederick, but they did have a John b 1851 > Rogate. > > The only Frederick I can find was one born in Rogate in 1857. I sent for > his > birth certificate but his parents are given as Alfred & Maria which has > completely thrown me! It looks as if Maria's maiden name was Hear or > something like it. Have not investigated that yet. > > In 1901 Frederick is actually down as John Walder with wife Harriet in > Tonbridge, Kent. I KNOW that this is the correct husband with the correct > children. His age is 45 which gives a birth year of 1856. Born in Rogate. > > In 1891 Harriet is with the children and no sign of husband Frederick (or > John). Again I know I have the correct family there. But where is > Frederick > or John? > > I have also looked for an alternative spouse for Harriet thinking I had > the > wrong marriage certificate, but I cannot find one. > > Can anyone help out here please? That would be great. > > Suzie (from Orkney) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 4/09/2007 > 10:36 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Suzie The only marriage I can find with a harriett Sotherden around the time frame is St George Hanover Square London in 1884 to a John Walden. NOT Walder...... No births for a John or Frederick Waldon/Walden found. NOTE an r is often mistranscribed as an n and vica versa. Is this the correct marriage? Freebmd has three Frederick J Walder's - none for the time frame anywhere Just Frederick Walder, there is one "registered" Midhurst on the border of Hampshire and Sussex 2b,page 341 red March Q. Midhurst in only 5.1 miles from Rogate. bearing in mind that nothing in truly complete this is the best so far. You could order the Birth certificate with the stipulation that the father is William. He could well have been registered late. I have to go through this logically from start to finish, so may be a bit bothersome. To get it right in my head. 1861 census No Frederick Walder at all. three Johns. One is with an Uncle Richard, Father John and Mother Mary with siblings. John and Richard Farmers born Horsham which is 23 miles from Rogate (although Rogate might be a red herring) Down the street Soloman Wlader and Family. The other parents Peter and Fanny born 1854, the last born 1860 too late according to the marriage (presuming the marriage is correct). 1871 census, nothing that stands out apart from Alfred and Maria... BUT on the upside on the 1881 census has a John, living St George Hanover as a Servant, which is likely the John Walder that married Harriett St George Hanover 1884. UNMARRIED......which ties in with the 1884 marriage Age is correct - born 1855. Born Petworth which is only 10.6 miles from Rogate. AND in 1891 the same John Walder in St George Hanover as a servant,(groom) this time married........born rogate Ssx at 4 Grantham Place, St Geo Han, servant right age So this John Walder is the one that married Harriett Sotherden in St George Hanover 1884 I have had this time and again in Sussex.........giving different places as their place of birth, when in fact all the places they name are within cooee of each other as we say in Oz. I suggest your next step is to get the Parish registers for all these places and make a database of Walder's from Rogate, Petworth. At one I am sure you will find the parents William and whomever. Ok the fly in this ointment is....there is a Harriett Welder 1891 CENSUS, St George Hanover, 44 born Chichester Sussex.....single......however, many females in service gave their status as single to prevent being "let go". Because you have found harriett with kids in 1891 I can only suggest that the research I have done, either suggests there is another option OR to discount the ones I found, which may help in the scheme of things. You do not give Harrietts age or place of birth, the children's names so I can go no further. I just followed through from the Freebmd, to the IGI to the censuses. You of course must have more information to come to the conclusions you have. The ages and places and marriage all fits for mine. BUT without more in depth info I cannot go further. One other thought to put the cat amongst the pigeons. Frederick J's father may have fone by his second christian name also. Oh yes I have found this too. I suugest you do like most of us do and wade through the Parish registers for the most likely places. Rogate especially seeing as both you and I have found TWO John Walder's from Rogate with possible wives Harriett. Probably cousins. So this is the obvious next course. Time consuming but worth it. Also do petworth. A few birth certificates might not go astray to ensure ytou are not barking up the wrong tree, literally. I hope I have not confused you. You obviously came from harrietts direction as I came from John/Fredericks with limitations of what you told us. But there are some variables. It's given you something to ponder, and something to discount or add into the equation. there are two Johns, 1891 census......... Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia >I am new to this list and doing some research for a friend. > > Is anyone researching WALDER? I am getting in a muddle with them and need > a > little guidance, please! > > I have a Frederick J WALDER who married Harriet SOTHERDEN in 1884. > Frederick, who was down as John on the certificate, said he was 29 on the > marriage certificate which gives a birth year of 1855. He also said his > father was William (deceased). > > A William WALDER married an Elizabeth WALDER which confuses things even > more! > They did not have a child Frederick, but they did have a John b 1851 > Rogate. > > The only Frederick I can find was one born in Rogate in 1857. I sent for > his > birth certificate but his parents are given as Alfred & Maria which has > completely thrown me! It looks as if Maria's maiden name was Hear or > something like it. Have not investigated that yet. > > In 1901 Frederick is actually down as John Walder with wife Harriet in > Tonbridge, Kent. I KNOW that this is the correct husband with the correct > children. His age is 45 which gives a birth year of 1856. Born in Rogate. > > In 1891 Harriet is with the children and no sign of husband Frederick (or > John). Again I know I have the correct family there. But where is > Frederick > or John? > > I have also looked for an alternative spouse for Harriet thinking I had > the > wrong marriage certificate, but I cannot find one. > > Can anyone help out here please? That would be great. > > Suzie (from Orkney) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 4/09/2007 > 10:36 PM > >
Hi Gail Gail try www.old-maps.co.uk Online ordanance maps. have you tried the historical directories online? Although not a map, will give you insight into when they were there and possibly how long for. www.historicaldirectories.org By doing a google Search of "West Dean" + Post office this came up for a George Couzens in 1867. He is also listed as a shoemaker. http://steve.pickthall.users.btopenworld.com/ssx1867/westdean-chichester1867.html Hope this adds some meat on the bones. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > On the 1861 census my COUZENS family occupation(s) is > Shoemaker, Post Office and Bakery. When I was in Sussex back > in 1999 I tried to locate this house on maps at the RO without success.. > > Is there another means to find this place? Would there be a book > detailing > such history? > > Today the General Store & Post Office is located down the laneway from > the Selsey Arms Inn. This is not the same place as back in 1861. > > Sincerely GAIL in Ontario > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.10/995 - Release Date: 8/09/2007 > 1:24 PM > >
If this is William Charles and family on (LDS) 1881 census: William HILL Head M Male 48 Brighton, Sussex, England Lodging House Keeper Annie HILL Wife M Female 47 Grimsby, Lincoln, England William HILL Son Male 16 Brighton, Sussex, England Carpenter Dudley HILL Son Male 12 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar Richard HILL Son Male 10 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar John HILL Son Male 8 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar Alfred HILL Son Male 6 Brighton, Sussex, England Scholar Elizabeth SUTTON Servant U Female 22 Brighton, Sussex, England Servant (General) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 9b Marine Parade Census Place Brighton, Sussex, England Family History Library Film 1341254 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1077 / 5 Page Number 4 NB - two more sons named than you have stated. then from FreeBMD, this is likely son Dudley's birth: Births Sep 1868 -------------------------------------------- HILL Dudley Charles Brighton 2b 179 and you can send for his birth certificate to determine his mother's full name. For his parents, here are several William Charles marrying Annie in the right time frame on FreeBMD. Again FreeBMD, a possibility for William (WCH father's) death: Deaths Dec 1870 -------------------------------- Hill William 70 Brighton 2b 152 Esther married James ADLAM (from FreeBMD): Marriages Jun 1861 ------------------------------------------- ADLAM James Brighton 2b 269 Hill Esther Brighton 2b 269 Possibly her baptism, from IGI: Hester <HILL> Christening: 10 DEC 1834 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England Father: William HILL Mother: Elizabeth ----------- Source Information: Batch No.: C147948 and her parents marriage: William HILL Spouse: Elizabeth PONSFORD Marriage: 12 NOV 1831 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England Batch No.: M147935 This church has had its registers filmed, which you might find useful. I would suggest that you try and follow the William and Elizabeth family back through the 1861, 1851, and 1841 census, also. Hope this quick play around with free online resources helps you. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of heather hill gibson > Sent: 08 September 2007 17:02 > To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SXP] Hill > > > Greetings: > Please need some help my William Hill > b 1802 Cornwall was living in Brighton 1828 till his death abt 1870 > > He married Eliz Pondford > Anglican church I think Chapel Royal and St Nicholas.. > > Wondering if anyone can help or recommend how to get cemetery records for his family > and > find out if any descendents are there still. > He had two children Ester married Adlam > > and Wm Charles Hill married to Ann..unknown.... > > who had sons Dudley, Alfred and Henry . > > much obliged. > > Heather Canada
In a further attempt to break through my very sturdy BAKER brick wall I list my Grandfathers parents & siblings, plus a recent development re finding a marriage of one of his sisters. James BAKER b: 25 Nov 1844 Hailsham, Sussex (My Great Grandfather) +Sarah Rose Hannah DURHAM b: Abt. 1859 Headington Rose Elizabeth BAKER 24 Nov 1878 Headington Quarry, Oxford Beatrice May BAKER b: Bef. Dec 1880 Lewes Benjamin Emmanuel BAKER b: Bef. Dec 1880 Lewes James Philip BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1883 Lewes Clara BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1885 Lewes Lucy BAKER b: Bef. Jun 1887 Lewes Bessie BAKER b: Bef. Dec 1889 Lewes Florence Ruth BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1892 Lewes Alice Emma BAKER b: 02 Feb 1894 Lewes Charles Arthur BAKER b: 02 Feb 1894 Lewes, d: 1975 Hawkhurst, Kent (My Grandfather) *Ethel Phylis Ansell BAKER b: Bef. Jan 1897 Lewes Frederick Durham BAKER b: Bef. Mar 1900 Lewes Lilian Mabel Snow BAKER b: Bef. Jun 1903 Lewes *Ethel BAKER married Ernest HARGREAVES b: 1881 Newhaven, on 29 Jun 1918 in Lewes, I’ve not yet found any children. Ernest HARGREAVES was b: 1881 Newhaven, son of James Bury HARGREAVES b: Abt 1822 Whalley, Lancs and Harriet Bellchambers b: Abt 1838 Haywards Heath. I’m attempting this bit of lateral & forward research in the hope of making a small hole in my brick wall and if any of this rings any tiny bells I’d love to hear them too! Many thanks for listening Tony