Dear Lists Please could I ask a favour of anyone who has time to look at the Marriage Register re Brighton St Nicholas - for the above? As you can see I have the date but I would be grateful for any other information that might be contained in the register. The exact date was March 27th 1832. I am hoping there might be details of witnesses and father's of the bride and groom etc. I am unsure how much was in the registers at this time but I think witnesses would be recorded and status ie batchelor/spinster etc., but I think it might be too early for the details of parents to be recorded, or occupations. I don't have much on Harriet (or Harriott) LAWS regarding her background or parents but later census records state she was born either in Brighton, or Northamptonshire and I am hoping it might be Brighton and this is possibly supported by her daughter, another Harriet, going to Brighton by 1860. The couple were in Dorking by later in 1832 and I am pretty sure Harriet was already expecting their first child as he was baptised in September 1832. Henry was from Dorking. Any help or suggestions will be gratefully received. Helen Shipley Helen

Dear Lists Please could I ask a favour of anyone who has time to look at the Marriage Register re Brighton St Nicholas - for the above? As you can see I have the date but I would be grateful for any other information that might be contained in the register. The exact date was March 27th 1832. I am hoping there might be details of witnesses and father's of the bride and groom etc. I am unsure how much was in the registers at this time but I think witnesses would be recorded and status ie batchelor/spinster etc., but I think it might be too early for the details of parents to be recorded, or occupations. I don't have much on Harriet (or Harriott) LAWS regarding her background or parents but later census records consistently state she was born either in Brighton, or Northamptonshire and I am hoping it might be Brighton and this is possibly supported by her daughter, another Harriet, going to Brighton by 1860. The couple were in Dorking by later in 1832 and I am pretty sure Harriet was already expecting their first child as he was baptised in September 1832. Henry was from Dorking. Any help or suggestions will be gratefully received. Helen Shipley Helen

Hi Listers Does anyone have a picture of the local CATHOLIC Church in St. Werburgh, Hoo that they could Email me please. Many thanks, Harvey in Adelaide, Sth. Australia.

Hello to you all again, Here is my current problem which I hope someone can help with. There is a Betty THORNS bap in Warnham 23 Feb 1736 and I have been looking for a marriage for her. There is one for an Elizabeth Thorns at Warnham who married a Joseph Nightingale on 19th Oct 1759, Can anyone find any proof or high probability that Betty was Elizabeth, As I have not been able to view the Register I hope someone can,, Phil White in New Hampshire USA Roots in Sussex and IOW

Hi Harvey There are some nice ones to be found by using google's Images section. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey & Eileen Bates" <bateshe@iprimus.com.au> To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:24 PM Subject: [SXP] St. Werburgh, Hoo, Kent > Hi Listers > Does anyone have a picture of the local > CATHOLIC Church in St. Werburgh, Hoo that they could Email me please. > > Many thanks, > > Harvey in Adelaide, > Sth. Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks again to all who tried to help me with this. Here is the response from the LDS support group. Jack >Thank you for your e-mail, and your interest in this exciting work. This > >information was extracted through the UDE program in 2004. The film # >is >1041582. The film comes from - Anglican Registers Baptisms from > >Henfield, Sussex, England. Sincerely, Indexing/Extraction Support

Hi There Is there anyone on the list who is a registered user for one of the sites that has current UK Electoral Rolls. Thanks Michael New Zealand

Hi, left out a couple of things. As George was a carrier he could have been away from home. West Dean would not come under East Grinstead, was she with another family member?, Rebecca and Ellen are in the 1881 census together in Chichester Regards Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Brooks" <heather.brooks@virgin.net> To: "Victoria Read" <vik.read3@ntlworld.com>; <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [SXP] Read ancestors > Hi, I have looked through my transcripts of Chichester, a beer seller was > a landlord/lady of a pub. > St. Andrew, Chichester > Mary Ann chr 30/9/1816 daughter of George, carrier and Jane Reed > Joseph Frederick chr 8/3/1818 son of George, carrier and Jane Reed from > Little London, Chichester. > > St.Pancras, Chichester > Elizabeth and Ellen chr 16/4/1820 twin daughters of George, carrier and > Jane Read > Buried Elizabeth Reid 19 months old 10/12/1821 > James chr 18/5/1822 son of George, carrier and Jane Read. > James Read buried aged 7 months 3/7/1822 > Rebecca chr 20/6/1824 daughter of George, carrier and Jane Read > Alfred chr 20/10/1827 son of George, carrier and Jane Read > James chr 23/8/1846 son of George and Jane Read > > A Mary Ann Read married Samuel Rossetter 28/12/ 1834 > George Read, cabinet maker, father George Read carrier, married Harriett > Nye , father William Nye, publican 28/1/1840 > You have Charles and Harriett 1842. > > Jane Read buried between Oct/Nov no date 1854 > > I have the baptisms of 7 children of Thomas and Harriett Read would you > like them. Thomas was a beer keeper, inn keeper, retailer of beer, > victualler or publican take your pick! > No sign of Charles, George or Thomas's baptism. > > Free BMD > Rebecca Reed age 65 died 1890 > Ellen Read age 71 died 1892 > Regards Heather Brooks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Victoria Read" <vik.read3@ntlworld.com> > To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:13 PM > Subject: [SXP] Read ancestors > > >> Hello List >> >> I am looking for my Read ancestors >> >> I have Charles Read born c1821 born Chichester son of George and Jane >> (nee ?Osgood- born Wiltshire). >> >> Jane appears on the 1841 census in Chichester St Pancras area. The name >> is spelt Reid. George is missing but Jane is there with daughters >> Rebecca and Ellen and Charles. I can find no trace of George the >> father). Jane is a beer seller (what exactly is a beer seller if anyone >> would be so kind to tell me). >> 1842 Charles marries Harriett and on the marriage cert - George is named >> as father and there is a signature of a George Read. Rebecca is a >> witness. >> >> 1851 census - Jane and Rebecca are living in the East Gate area of >> Chichester - beer sellers. Jane states that she is a widow. (Rebecca >> never marries and I have not traced the other daughter Ellen as yet). >> >> I have found a death of George Reed dec 1847 Chichester but if this is so >> where is he on the 1841 census. >> >> Jane Read dies in Dec 1854 Chichester. >> >> Charles and his family live in the Sub Deanery area of Chichester and >> then move to Portsea around 1880's. >> >> By 1901 Harriett Read is living with her son Thomas in West Dean where >> Thomas is a gamekeeper on the West Dean Estate. >> The only death I can find for a Harriett Read is East Grinstead age 78 >> Sept 1902. >> I am intending on ordering the certs for positive identification. >> >> I was wondering if anyone had any links to this family? Would West Dean >> come under the East Grinstead area for registering deaths or would I >> assume that the family moved towards there? >> And where was George on the 1841 census? Any help or pointers would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I have looked through my transcripts of Chichester, a beer seller was a landlord/lady of a pub. St. Andrew, Chichester Mary Ann chr 30/9/1816 daughter of George, carrier and Jane Reed Joseph Frederick chr 8/3/1818 son of George, carrier and Jane Reed from Little London, Chichester. St.Pancras, Chichester Elizabeth and Ellen chr 16/4/1820 twin daughters of George, carrier and Jane Read Buried Elizabeth Reid 19 months old 10/12/1821 James chr 18/5/1822 son of George, carrier and Jane Read. James Read buried aged 7 months 3/7/1822 Rebecca chr 20/6/1824 daughter of George, carrier and Jane Read Alfred chr 20/10/1827 son of George, carrier and Jane Read James chr 23/8/1846 son of George and Jane Read A Mary Ann Read married Samuel Rossetter 28/12/ 1834 George Read, cabinet maker, father George Read carrier, married Harriett Nye , father William Nye, publican 28/1/1840 You have Charles and Harriett 1842. Jane Read buried between Oct/Nov no date 1854 I have the baptisms of 7 children of Thomas and Harriett Read would you like them. Thomas was a beer keeper, inn keeper, retailer of beer, victualler or publican take your pick! No sign of Charles, George or Thomas's baptism. Free BMD Rebecca Reed age 65 died 1890 Ellen Read age 71 died 1892 Regards Heather Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victoria Read" <vik.read3@ntlworld.com> To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: [SXP] Read ancestors > Hello List > > I am looking for my Read ancestors > > I have Charles Read born c1821 born Chichester son of George and Jane > (nee ?Osgood- born Wiltshire). > > Jane appears on the 1841 census in Chichester St Pancras area. The name > is spelt Reid. George is missing but Jane is there with daughters > Rebecca and Ellen and Charles. I can find no trace of George the father). > Jane is a beer seller (what exactly is a beer seller if anyone would be so > kind to tell me). > 1842 Charles marries Harriett and on the marriage cert - George is named > as father and there is a signature of a George Read. Rebecca is a > witness. > > 1851 census - Jane and Rebecca are living in the East Gate area of > Chichester - beer sellers. Jane states that she is a widow. (Rebecca > never marries and I have not traced the other daughter Ellen as yet). > > I have found a death of George Reed dec 1847 Chichester but if this is so > where is he on the 1841 census. > > Jane Read dies in Dec 1854 Chichester. > > Charles and his family live in the Sub Deanery area of Chichester and then > move to Portsea around 1880's. > > By 1901 Harriett Read is living with her son Thomas in West Dean where > Thomas is a gamekeeper on the West Dean Estate. > The only death I can find for a Harriett Read is East Grinstead age 78 > Sept 1902. > I am intending on ordering the certs for positive identification. > > I was wondering if anyone had any links to this family? Would West Dean > come under the East Grinstead area for registering deaths or would I > assume that the family moved towards there? > And where was George on the 1841 census? Any help or pointers would be > appreciated. > > Thanks > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joanee, The only 2 Mary Brays married after 1821 on SMI were 7/07/1827 to Ezekiel Smith and 18/05/1829 to William Crittenden - both at Hollington (now part of Hastings). It is possible that either or both died before 1841. hth, Anne > From: JMBecker@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:45:08 -0500> To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SXP] Searching for child of Mary BRAY & Edw. BLACKMAN b1821 in Mayfield/Wartling> > > > Hello Listers!> I have a Bastardy Order -dated 21 August 1821- for the Parish of > Mayfield Sussex in which the unborn child of Mary BRAY ( big with child at the time) > was acknowledged by it's father, Edward BLACKMAN of Wartling Sussex. The > Mother was also said to be of Wartling. Edward BLACKMAN posted a bond to cover > maintenance of the child whose baptism I did not find at either Mayfield or > Wartling Parish Church. Edward (1784 Wartling- 1856 W) was the brother of my > greatx3 grandfather, William BLACKMAN (1796 Wartling- 1837 Wartling, Surgeon > of Boreham). > I have checked the 1841 and 1851 Census' but have not found a possible > male or female match for the child, nor a likely Mary BRAY. It is not > possible to search on the IGI for an unnamed BRAY child of Mary BRAY. > If Some Kind Soul would look for a candidate on the BVRI I would > appreciate it!!! > Also, if someone would check the SFHG Marriage Index for a marriage for > Mary BRAY, I would appreciate it!!> Anyone with any other possible candidates, please contact me!> Thanks very much!> Joanne> > > > Joanne Mays Becker> Sleepy Hollow, New York> > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products.> (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ 100’s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk

Jacqui Children of Henry & Mildred John 15 Oct 1801 Mary 30 Nov 1802 Thomas 12 Apr 1804 Ann 1 Feb 1806 Henry 12 Oct 1807 Charles 23 Sep 1810 Marriage was on May 1 1801 Mildred baptised 4 Jul 1782 daughter of John and Mary Waymark Jackie -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jacqui Freke Sent: 24 November 2007 12:53 To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com Subject: [SXP] Mugridges of Eastbourne Hi there, Is there anybody out there who has the PRs for Eastbourne. I have 2 Mugridge brothers born in Hastings but have been told there where several other siblings born in Eastbourne (where their parents married). They are the children of Henry Mugridge (spelt various ways in different documents) and Mildred Fox. If anybody with the records could possibly look and see if there are any christening records I would be most grateful. Henry and Mildred were married in 1801 and the eldest brother (of the ones I have) was born in 1813, so it would be the time span between these years. Up until now I was working on the assumption that there had only been 2 children, but it looks like I am wrong. Many thanks. Jacqui -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 23/11/2007 19:39 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, Is there anybody out there who has the PRs for Eastbourne. I have 2 Mugridge brothers born in Hastings but have been told there where several other siblings born in Eastbourne (where their parents married). They are the children of Henry Mugridge (spelt various ways in different documents) and Mildred Fox. If anybody with the records could possibly look and see if there are any christening records I would be most grateful. Henry and Mildred were married in 1801 and the eldest brother (of the ones I have) was born in 1813, so it would be the time span between these years. Up until now I was working on the assumption that there had only been 2 children, but it looks like I am wrong. Many thanks. Jacqui -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1148 - Release Date: 23/11/2007 19:39

Hello Listers! I have a Bastardy Order -dated 21 August 1821- for the Parish of Mayfield Sussex in which the unborn child of Mary BRAY ( big with child at the time) was acknowledged by it's father, Edward BLACKMAN of Wartling Sussex. The Mother was also said to be of Wartling. Edward BLACKMAN posted a bond to cover maintenance of the child whose baptism I did not find at either Mayfield or Wartling Parish Church. Edward (1784 Wartling- 1856 W) was the brother of my greatx3 grandfather, William BLACKMAN (1796 Wartling- 1837 Wartling, Surgeon of Boreham). I have checked the 1841 and 1851 Census' but have not found a possible male or female match for the child, nor a likely Mary BRAY. It is not possible to search on the IGI for an unnamed BRAY child of Mary BRAY. If Some Kind Soul would look for a candidate on the BVRI I would appreciate it!!! Also, if someone would check the SFHG Marriage Index for a marriage for Mary BRAY, I would appreciate it!! Anyone with any other possible candidates, please contact me! Thanks very much! Joanne Joanne Mays Becker Sleepy Hollow, New York **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Newhaven, East Sussex, Date: 13 Jul 1817: Subject: William PARSONS Spouse: Maria SHEPHERD, botp (B) Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Lyminster, West Sussex, Date: 4 Nov 1839: Subject: John WHITE, bach 26 Spouse: Mary Ann MITCHELL, sp 27 Extra Information: Witness wit: Mary W.; Ann SLAUGHTER Ian C

Hello List I am looking for my Read ancestors I have Charles Read born c1821 born Chichester son of George and Jane (nee ?Osgood- born Wiltshire). Jane appears on the 1841 census in Chichester St Pancras area. The name is spelt Reid. George is missing but Jane is there with daughters Rebecca and Ellen and Charles. I can find no trace of George the father). Jane is a beer seller (what exactly is a beer seller if anyone would be so kind to tell me). 1842 Charles marries Harriett and on the marriage cert - George is named as father and there is a signature of a George Read. Rebecca is a witness. 1851 census - Jane and Rebecca are living in the East Gate area of Chichester - beer sellers. Jane states that she is a widow. (Rebecca never marries and I have not traced the other daughter Ellen as yet). I have found a death of George Reed dec 1847 Chichester but if this is so where is he on the 1841 census. Jane Read dies in Dec 1854 Chichester. Charles and his family live in the Sub Deanery area of Chichester and then move to Portsea around 1880's. By 1901 Harriett Read is living with her son Thomas in West Dean where Thomas is a gamekeeper on the West Dean Estate. The only death I can find for a Harriett Read is East Grinstead age 78 Sept 1902. I am intending on ordering the certs for positive identification. I was wondering if anyone had any links to this family? Would West Dean come under the East Grinstead area for registering deaths or would I assume that the family moved towards there? And where was George on the 1841 census? Any help or pointers would be appreciated. Thanks

Here is another IGI Identification format..... Jenny IGI BATCH NO. INFORMATION Batch numbers beginning with A, L, M17, M18,T0, T90, 69409- indicate LDS Temple records and have limited access. Batch numbers beginning with C, E, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), P, T5, 725, 744, 745, 754- indicate extracted birth, christening or marriage record. E- Batches: Replace the "E" with an " M" and find the "M-" batch number in the IGI Batch Number Index. T-5-Batches: Just above the IGI entry with a "T-5-" batch number, you will find a nearly identical IGI entry with a different batch number. Use that batch number to find the source. 725-, 745-, and 754- Batches: These batches are extracted indexes, usually with no more information. Names may be listed alphabetically ...Surnames A - O are on film 543896. P - Z are on film 543897." Batch numbers beginning with F, T96, T998, T9990, and all digit numbers such as 8434961 [except beginning with 725-, 744-, 745-, 754- as above] are forms submitted to the Ancestral File by individuals. They may be a Family Group Record, an Individual Entry or Marriage Entry. The microfilms can be ordered and photocopies can be made. Submitters' names and addresses may be outdated. F- Batches: Check the forms to understand the data. Some information is estimated or added and may be different from what you expect. T96- Batches: This is a correction to an existing record.

Hi Ted Looked at it from the other way a little more info for you Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Lyminster, West Sussex, Date: 4 Nov 1839: Subject: Mary Ann MITCHELL, sp 27 of Wick Spouse: John WHITE, bach 26 ship carpenter otsp s of John No Marie Shepherd in Eastbourne Baptisms Jackie -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ted White Sent: 23 November 2007 15:04 To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SXP] Marriages for PARSONS and WHITE Hello all, I wonder if anyone can help to find two marriages for me please. The first is my 3xgt grandparents. The only details that I know is that the groom¹s name was PARSONS and the bride was Maria. She was born about 1789 in Eastbourne or Westham and died in 1863 in Brighton. Her daughter, also Maria, married Thomas MOCKFORD, probably in Newhaven in 1843. The second is John WHITE who was born in 1813 in Lyminster, West Sussex. By 1841 he was married to Mary Ann ??? and they were living in Portsea, Hants. She gave her birthplace as Preston, Sussex in the censuses (possibly East Preston). I would be interested to contact anyone connected to either of these families. Thank you and best wishes, Ted White. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please be aware that the West Sussex Record Office in Chichester will be closed to the public for stocktaking from Monday 3rd December for two weeks. It will reopen on Monday 17 December. Roy Winchester Publicity Officer & Chairman, Chichester Meeting Centre Sussex Family History Group

Hi Jack Ok I have had a look at these .......via the source number. The IGI is a wonderful resource, BUT is made up of films that are 1. Transcriptions from the PR's etc - original transcriptions by the LDS 2. LDS member donations as a part of their religion per ce Lds memebers are required as a part of their religion to trace their family history and this one that you mention...................."seems" to be a family history (temple ready). Like most family historians there are good ones and bad ones......so take these as you find them as with anything that is done by others. No offence meant here........ By checking the source notes (title details), you can see that they are donated by members of the church. A source number should mention the PR is transcribed. If I cannot contact the providor of the information I tend to re-check the information given, purely because you can literally "bark up the wrong tree" and people are human and do make mistakes. MY advice.......... Use the IGI as a (great) guideline BUT get the PR's out yourself, cross referencing with what you KNOW and census data, certs etc when applicable. Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia > Perhaps someone can help with this. Batch #I036273 appears to be PRs from > Henfield but has no indication as to source material. How can I determine > where these records came from? > > Thanks, > Jack > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.33/1132 - Release Date: > 15/11/2007 9:34 AM > >

Hi Pam, Jack and all I have found a few odd "I" batches and have found them to be fairly new data extracted from PRs My particular "I" batch appeared a couple of years ago for 1807 of St Marys Lambeth, I asked the LDS where it had come from and was told it was a late extracted batch from the Parish Registers that had not been extracted before I proved this by obtaining a copy of the page where my g.g.g.grandparents marriage was found Jack, perhaps you might ask the LDS as its their data on there, I have always found them very helpful Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Jack > Ok I have had a look at these .......via the source number. > The IGI is a wonderful resource, BUT is made up of films that are > 1. Transcriptions from the PR's etc - original transcriptions by the LDS > 2. LDS member donations as a part of their religion per ce > Lds memebers are required as a part of their religion to trace their > family > history and this one that you mention...................."seems" to be a > family history (temple ready). <snip> Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia >> Perhaps someone can help with this. Batch #I036273 appears to be PRs from >> Henfield but has no indication as to source material. How can I determine >> where these records came from? >> >> Thanks, >> Jack