Derek and others on this list, I have quite frequently found "missing" quarters on the BMD images on Ancestry and have found most of these are the result of a handwritten late entry on the bottom of the last column of entries which in turn tends to throw the character recognition software out of sequence, or the handwriting may have been miss-interpreted by human eyes. The usual way round this is to enter a surname either just before or after the one that's missing and the quarter which is missing. Then by using the next or previous buttons it is possible in most cases to find the page image which was earlier missing. A bit time consuming but it has worked for me. FreeBMD has a way to go before all births etc are indexed to the end of 1921 (you can check on their progress). hope this helps cheers Bob in Aus. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Cooper" <diesel13@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Sussex Plus" <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: [SXP] MISSING BMDs Greetings all.Does anyone have access to BMDs apart from Ancestry and possibly Free BMD?I found a death registered Worthing1965,which leads me to believe the birth was 2nd qtr 1921.This qtr.is missing from Ancestry! Could somebody look up Eric R Cooper (mothers maiden name is Marshall) in this qtr.and find ref.numbers for me? Many thanks Derek Cooper

Infrmation sent. Regards Sue " To forget ones Ancestors is to be a brook without a source a Tree without a Root " Sue Freestone Once from Kent now from Aus http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/suss8 KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "martin sear" <martin.sear@ntlworld.com> To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:22 AM Subject: [SXP] James Baldwin > Hi, > > I am trying to find information about James Baldwin, he was born abt 1822 > in > Surrey. > > I have him in the 1851 census in Crowhurst as Jane Baldwin (spelling > Mistake). > > Any help much appreciated > > Regards > > Martin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: > 8/12/2007 11:59 AM > >

Derek, I have located the required page for Q2 1921 Coopers (like Bob, I have learned how to overcome Ancestry's indexing problems!) but there is no Eric R. and of the 3 Eric's, none has Marshall as mother's maiden name. Keep hunting! - good luck -----Original Message----- From: bob campbell <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> To: Derek Cooper <diesel13@tiscali.co.uk> CC: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 1:02 am Subject: Re: [SXP] MISSING BMDs Derek and others on this list, I have quite frequently found "missing" quarters on the BMD images on Ancestry and have found most of these are the result of a handwritten late entry on the bottom of the last column of entries which in turn tends to throw the character recognition software out of sequence, or the handwriting may have been miss-interpreted by human eyes. The usual way round this is to enter a surname either just before or after the one that's missing and the quarter which is missing. Then by using the next or previous buttons it is possible in most cases to find the page image which was earlier missing. A bit time consuming but it has worked for me. FreeBMD has a way to go before all births etc are indexed to the end of 1921 (you can check on their progress). hope this helps cheers Bob in Aus. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Cooper" <diesel13@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Sussex Plus" <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: [SXP] MISSING BMDs Greetings all.Does anyone have access to BMDs apart from Ancestry and possibly Free BMD?I found a death registered Worthing1965,which leads me to believe the birth was 2nd qtr 1921.This qtr.is missing from Ancestry! Could somebody look up Eric R Cooper (mothers maiden name is Marshall) in this qtr.and find ref.numbers for me? Many thanks Derek Cooper ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Firstly, I have no connection to Alfred White or where this item is listed. Apparently Alfred White was a Mariner, No. 553288 and was born in Deal, Kent in 1887. Have found reference to his Seaman's Record Book and Discharge Certificate from the Orient Line. Buying No. Item number: 280179035106. Regards Jenny

Hi, I am trying to find information about James Baldwin, he was born abt 1822 in Surrey. I have him in the 1851 census in Crowhurst as Jane Baldwin (spelling Mistake). Any help much appreciated Regards Martin

Geoff Eric R Cooper June Q 1920 Epsom 2a 45 R Brumfield

Hello list Nothing interesting on findmypast (ex1837) for the name and dates you give. Perhaps we other listers could be informed of the result other than an "answered off list" which personally as a list member I find a bit "off". Geoff

Info sent off list. R Brumfield

Hi Derek You can access them yourself here http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Select view images from home page Slow but the price is right <g> Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Greetings all.Does anyone have access to BMDs apart from Ancestry and > possibly Free BMD?I found a death registered Worthing1965,which leads me > to believe the birth was 2nd qtr 1921.This qtr.is missing from Ancestry! > Could somebody look up Eric R Cooper (mothers maiden name is Marshall) in > this qtr.and find ref.numbers for me? > Many thanks Derek Cooper

Greetings all.Does anyone have access to BMDs apart from Ancestry and possibly Free BMD?I found a death registered Worthing1965,which leads me to believe the birth was 2nd qtr 1921.This qtr.is missing from Ancestry! Could somebody look up Eric R Cooper (mothers maiden name is Marshall) in this qtr.and find ref.numbers for me? Many thanks Derek Cooper

I have no connection to Glassmakers although there might be some on this list who are. I found this book for sale with a very informative index. The publication contains 231 green topped pages with photographs, diagrams, illustrations and an open out map to the rear pastedown. This is the first comprehensive account of glassmaking in the Weald of Sussex and Surrey. The few forest glasshouses outside the Weald, about which anything is known up to mid-summer 1966, are also discussed, so the book deals with much of the forest glass industry of England.....From the jacket flap... Regards Jenny

Thank you to everyone who posted ideas for me try to identify the windmill shown in a painting by my greatgreatgrandfather, James Sturt of Arundel and Warningcamp. From the Sussex Mills Group website I found a postcard picture of the mill. It was easily recognised because it has an unusual flat top. It was called The Cement Mill, Arundel and was built in 1864 on the banks of the River Arun and was used to grind material dredged from the river for cement manufacture. I did not realise they used mills for this. Unfortunately it no longer exists. My greatgreatgrandfather built a number of houses in Arundel and Warningcamp and probably knew the men who worked there. Ros Dunnico.

Hi, if you go to www.horseracinghistory.co.uk their is a small bit about Anthony Escott, jump jockey son of Harry. Regards Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMBecker@aol.com> To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [SXP] Harry Escott (1859-1948) > > > Hi Gordon, > Harry ESCOTT was the subject of the Oxford Dictionary of National > Biography "Life of the Day" a few months ago. Normally details of birth > and early > life are cited at the beginning and survivors (wife, children, etc.) are > identified at the end of each bio. The web address is: > _http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/_ (http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/) > One can sign up to receive The "Life of the Day" for free but you will > need to access the Dictionary in order to obtain a copy of his bio. I'm > sure > you can access it in your local library or perhaps another lister with a > subscription can send it to you? > Hope that helps! He was a very interesting man, I only wish I'd saved > the > bio! > Cheers, Joanne > > Joanne Mays Becker > Sleepy Hollow, New York > In a message dated 12/7/2007 10:41:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > gordonhillman@sympatico.ca writes: > > I am gathering information on Harry Escott, a noted jockey and horse > trainer, who road and trained horses for the Grand National around > 1895-1919. He died in Hove 23 March 1848 at the age of 91. I have him > on > the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census record and have found his marriage to > Annie > Pettit (1884) and Julia Skinner (1888). The census records give > conflicting > birthplaces. 1881 says Hull, Yorkshire and the others Blandford, Dorset. > > I am trying to find his parentage andany living descdendants. Can anyone > help? > > Gordon Hillman > Sarnia, Ontario, Canada > > > > > Joanne Mays Becker > Sleepy Hollow, New York > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, Overington BLUNDEN was a Cromwellian adventurer who obtained lands in Kilkenny, Ireland, in 1653. He was married prior to 1630, but I have not yet found the name of his wife. I am interested in finding his origins. Both the surnames BLUNDEN and OVERINGTON were fairly common in Sussex at this time, and it seems that Overington was often used as a forename also in Sussex. I am assuming that a BLUNDEN male married an OVERINGTON female sometime in the late 16th or early 17th centuries, but have not yet found such a marriage. If anyone is looking at these two families, and can give me any information about his possible origins, then it would be much appreciated. Regards Jon

Hi all Perusing the Chesham, Bucks marriages I came across a few strays which I thought I would post to various lists. Written how spelt, from a book of typed marriages. Hope they help someone.Cheers Pam from Adelaide Australia George FLETCHER of Stoke Newington Msx and Eliz PECK, widow by licence, 8/10/1758 Robert WARNER of St Mindres (Mildreds) Poultney, London and Elizabeth PETERS 15/4/1761 Thos SMITH, Cabinetmaker of St Giles Cripplegate and Mary HARLING, licence 26/5/1762 Rich JESSOR, barber of Minster, Kent & Elizabeth COSTER, licence 30/1/1766 John BONNYCASTLE of Bromley & Elizabeth ROLT licence 21/2/1772 Robert LOW of St Andrew Holborn & Mary KEACH 8/6/1772 John JUDGE of St Clement Danes & Hannah JOHNSON, licence 29/10/1772 Hugh RICHARDSON, of Sutton, Kent & Martha HERBERT licence 18/3/1773 John HOPGOOD of St Lawrence Poulteney Lane, London & Eliz Ann COTESWORTH, licnece 25/4/1774 Rich HAYES of St Ann Westminster & Rachel TURNER 11/1/1778 Thos SLAUGHTER of Epsom Surrey & Eliz ROWLES 3/9/1791 Thos BRYANT of Casharlton Surrey & elanor BALDUM, LICENCE 26/2/1794 William CHILDS of Hayes, Msx & Mary HINSN 23/9/1795 Rich WILLIAMS of Harmsworth, Msx, 7 Elizabeth COWDEN, lic 11/5/1799 Isaac RAILTON, St Clement London, & Fanny WYNCH lice 1/2/1801 Thos LIBERTY of Walton on Thames & Margaret EDWARDS lic 3/6/1802 Robt BLUNT, widower St George Soouthwark & Ann PORTER lic 17/6/1802 Edward HITCHCOCK & Ann Maria TOWSEY oc Edmonton, Msx, lic 22/12/1805 George STREET of Woolwich & Hannah SMITH lic, 2/7/1811 Gamaliel CONSTANT, St Mary Cray, Kent, & Sarah MARTIN 25/12/1813 John HIGHT of St Leonards Shireditch & Laetitia WILLIAMS, lic 22/5/1821 We do not remember Days, We remember Moments.

Hi Richard, If the parents weren't married to each other, the father's name could only be added to the birth certificate, at registration, if he was present. I believe this still applies today. Many such father's did not admit responsibility, as it meant they would have to support the child. On the other hand, some girls may not have been absolutely certain of the identity of the father. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the father's name could only be added in his absence, if he was married to the mother of the child. As I have these doubts, I ahve also sent to the List, as someone else may have a more definite answer. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.M.Adams" <R.M.Adams@open.ac.uk> To: <SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: [SXP] Father Absent on Brith Certificate >I have recently received a couple of birth certificates with the > father's name (and thus occupation) absent. > > > > Does this indicate to me, that with older certificates this was common > practice (i.e. it was not that important or required), or that the > father is indeed unknown. > > > > Any advice welcomed. > > > > Thank You, > > > > Richard. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release Date: > 07/12/2007 13:11 > >

Hi Gordon, I have had a quick look on Ancestry for 1861 and 1871 and cannot find him. As you have details of his marriages you should have his father's name - this may help to find him. There are a few possible births on FreeBMD - Escott seems to be a West Country name so I would go with Blandford (or somewhere near there) as his birth place. let me know what else you have and I will have another look. cheers, Anne > From: gordonhillman@sympatico.ca> To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:39:49 +0000> CC: gordonhillman@sympatico.ca> Subject: [SXP] Harry Escott (1859-1948)> > I am gathering information on Harry Escott, a noted jockey and horse > trainer, who road and trained horses for the Grand National around > 1895-1919. He died in Hove 23 March 1848 at the age of 91. I have him on > the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census record and have found his marriage to Annie > Pettit (1884) and Julia Skinner (1888). The census records give conflicting > birthplaces. 1881 says Hull, Yorkshire and the others Blandford, Dorset.> > I am trying to find his parentage andany living descdendants. Can anyone > help?> > Gordon Hillman> Sarnia, Ontario, Canada> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get free emoticon packs and customisation from Windows Live. http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk

Hi Gordon, Harry ESCOTT was the subject of the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography "Life of the Day" a few months ago. Normally details of birth and early life are cited at the beginning and survivors (wife, children, etc.) are identified at the end of each bio. The web address is: _http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/_ (http://www.oup.com/oxforddnb/info/) One can sign up to receive The "Life of the Day" for free but you will need to access the Dictionary in order to obtain a copy of his bio. I'm sure you can access it in your local library or perhaps another lister with a subscription can send it to you? Hope that helps! He was a very interesting man, I only wish I'd saved the bio! Cheers, Joanne Joanne Mays Becker Sleepy Hollow, New York In a message dated 12/7/2007 10:41:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordonhillman@sympatico.ca writes: I am gathering information on Harry Escott, a noted jockey and horse trainer, who road and trained horses for the Grand National around 1895-1919. He died in Hove 23 March 1848 at the age of 91. I have him on the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census record and have found his marriage to Annie Pettit (1884) and Julia Skinner (1888). The census records give conflicting birthplaces. 1881 says Hull, Yorkshire and the others Blandford, Dorset. I am trying to find his parentage andany living descdendants. Can anyone help? Gordon Hillman Sarnia, Ontario, Canada Joanne Mays Becker Sleepy Hollow, New York **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Trying to contact the ST Peters Church in Henfield Sussex to obtain Baptism Certificates for my Family of Fowlers,can any one help, thanks,Marilyn(Australia)

I am gathering information on Harry Escott, a noted jockey and horse trainer, who road and trained horses for the Grand National around 1895-1919. He died in Hove 23 March 1848 at the age of 91. I have him on the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census record and have found his marriage to Annie Pettit (1884) and Julia Skinner (1888). The census records give conflicting birthplaces. 1881 says Hull, Yorkshire and the others Blandford, Dorset. I am trying to find his parentage andany living descdendants. Can anyone help? Gordon Hillman Sarnia, Ontario, Canada