Hi Ellen Beale married Thomas Ayling at Chichester, Sussex in 1849 her sister Lucy Triggs was a wittness. By 1881 they are together in Chidham, no sign of Thomas and Lucy is recorded as widowed. I would like to know were these 2 sisters were in 1851/61/71 if possible, I have not found a marriage for Lucy and she had at least 2 children before she married Regards, Heather Brooks

Thanks to you all for your replies. Thanks also to you, Brenda, and if you wouldn't mind I would be very pleased to get the information you spoke of. I was mainly interested in which villages or towns in Sussex (preferably East Sussex) may have recorded the coming and /or the going of the plague - and when the consensus of opinion is as to when the plague can be considered to have, finally and completely, gone from all England - but especially Sussex. My reasons for the questions were that, in the parish of Hooe, in East Sussex, I have been told that the parish registers show that most people in the village died from the plague in 1669 and therefore they concluded that that was the year in which the plague struck but, in my opinion, 1669 is far too late. A few more points are that, according to the registers, there were a few more burials in 1667 than 1669, the burials were spread over the year pretty evenly, and none of the surnames were repeated (so whole families, certainly, didn't die) which doesn't sound like the plague - hence my questions. The plague had disappeared from London in late 1665, so 1669, as I've said, would, surely, be too late for Sussex. It also seems that the incubation period for the plague (whether bubonic or ebola or whatever it was) was only about 4-6 weeks (or so I've read!) so it wouldn't have hung around long once all the people it could infect had been infected and either survived or died - certainly not for two years if it took only nine months (roughly) to clear from London. The fire of London, which occurred in 1666, only destroyed part of the City of London and not the poorer south, east, and north areas so it can't really be claimed that this got rid of the plague, which by the end of 1665, had, almost, gone completely from all of London, anyway. I thought that if anyone had seen a parish register, in Sussex, where the vicar had, perhaps, made a specific note that the plague had come to his village and gone, that would have given me something to work on. Sorry to rabbit on but I, obviously, didn't explain myself too well the first time and thought I ought to put a bit more effort in explaining the second time! I hope I haven't overdone it! Thanks again for all your replies Kindest regards to you all - and a Merry Christmas, John

Rosalind was born in East Preston in 1914 and I wonder if anyone is researching the RYTON name. Thank you Cheers, Bob in Melbourne

Hi All Recent discussion about Fleet Street reminded me of two interesting books of old Brighton photographs of streets which no longer exist made up of photos taken by Brighton Council's Public Health Inspectors prior to slum clearance schemes being implemented. These are Backyard Brighton and Backstreet Brighton published by Queenspark Books ( http://www.queensparkbooks.org.uk/index.html ) a community publisher. The books also contain reminiscences by people who grew-up and lived in these streets. One of the books features Elder Street north of Fleet Street where my mother was born and lived in the 1920s & 1930s. Her mother and grandparents lived in the street on and off from 1871 until 1935. These publications are well worth exploring if you are looking for insights into residential parts of Brighton which are long gone. I have not connection with the publisher. The books were found in Bexhill Public Library. All the best for Christmas. David in Bexhill, EAst Sussex, UK _________________________________________________________________ Free games, great prizes - get gaming at Gamesbox. http://www.searchgamesbox.com

Hi, what is Harriet's fathers name on her marriage certificate? Regards Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Capewell" <alc_goytre@hotmail.com> To: "sue Greene" <sueg-97@xtra.co.nz>; <sussex-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [SXP] St. Nicholas Church Brighton lookup > Hi Sue, > > There is a Hariet Cocks 15 (sic) on 1841 in Kingsholme, Gloucestershire > not born in county. She is living with Thomas Cocks 73, Grace Cocks 73 and > James Cocks 13 - grandparents and brother?? Ref is HO107/356/10 F4 P3. > > Not sure how much this helps!! > > cheers, Anne > > > >> From: sueg-97@xtra.co.nz> To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec >> 2007 17:01:59 +1300> Subject: [SXP] St. Nicholas Church Brighton lookup> >> > Hi listers,> Hoping someone may have a bit of time before the silly >> season to help with a> request.> I have a Chr. Of Harriet Cox 14 Oct 1825 >> St. Nicholas Church Brighton. The> info. Is on the IGI. The film number >> states it was St. Nicholas Church> Brighton> Is there anyone in the area >> that would have a bit of time to lookup and> confirm the info. But I am >> also hoping it would have the fathers occupation> which should be a >> tailor.> I am not having any luck in finding Harriet or her parents on >> the 1841> census though the parents could be dead by then but Harriet is >> alive 1851> but in Gloucester, gets married there in 1852.> There is one >> match on the 1841 census, father Isaac mother Maria, and> daughter >> Harriet but the fathers occupation is a stone mason.> Could Isaac change >> from being a tailor to a stone mason by 1841 and moved! > to> Gloucester?> The marriage certificate for Harriet states her father > is a tailor 1852. Her> husband is also a tailor as is his father perhaps > the person writing the> info. Wrote the wrong thing in error.> I know not > all churches put the fathers occupation and is a long shot but> would be > really grateful if someone could check this out for me.> Regards> Sue > Greene> New Zealand> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe > from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Telly addicts unite! > http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue, There is a Hariet Cocks 15 (sic) on 1841 in Kingsholme, Gloucestershire not born in county. She is living with Thomas Cocks 73, Grace Cocks 73 and James Cocks 13 - grandparents and brother?? Ref is HO107/356/10 F4 P3. Not sure how much this helps!! cheers, Anne > From: sueg-97@xtra.co.nz> To: SUSSEX-PLUS@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:01:59 +1300> Subject: [SXP] St. Nicholas Church Brighton lookup> > Hi listers,> Hoping someone may have a bit of time before the silly season to help with a> request.> I have a Chr. Of Harriet Cox 14 Oct 1825 St. Nicholas Church Brighton. The> info. Is on the IGI. The film number states it was St. Nicholas Church> Brighton> Is there anyone in the area that would have a bit of time to lookup and> confirm the info. But I am also hoping it would have the fathers occupation> which should be a tailor.> I am not having any luck in finding Harriet or her parents on the 1841> census though the parents could be dead by then but Harriet is alive 1851> but in Gloucester, gets married there in 1852.> There is one match on the 1841 census, father Isaac mother Maria, and> daughter Harriet but the fathers occupation is a stone mason.> Could Isaac change from being a tailor to a stone mason by 1841 and moved to> Gloucester?> The marriage certificate for Harriet states her father is a tailor 1852. Her> husband is also a tailor as is his father perhaps the person writing the> info. Wrote the wrong thing in error.> I know not all churches put the fathers occupation and is a long shot but> would be really grateful if someone could check this out for me.> Regards> Sue Greene> New Zealand> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml

In a message dated 12/13/2007 3:54:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mtracey@con-centric.com writes: How far back does your family go in Wartling? I have many from there in 1600 and 1700's. Happy Holidays, Marilyn Tracey Hi Tracey! My families in Wartling and Herstmonceux are: BLACKMAN (Boreham St Wartling, came from Lewes abt 1750) NOAKES (Borham St Wartling, came from Burwash/Ticehurst and Lamberhurst Kent c 1782) HOOK (Herstmonceux, from Mayfield c 1825) CORNFORD (Herstmonceux from Warbleton c 1800) FRIEND (Herstmonceux from Salehurst and Dallington c 1875) HONEYSETT/HONISETT (Herstmonceux from Dallington c 1700) But because I have researched the families which were married into, those of most of my father's cousins who remained in the area, and I've helped many unrelated individuals, I have a lot of information on the following Wartling/Herstmonceux families as well, although 19th and 20th centuries: SANDS GANDER MEDHURST BRADFORD SIMMONS CATT SOUTHOUSE HAZLEDON BURGESS MESSAGE BAKER JARMAN LADE WOOD BRYANT RANSOM DALLAWAY I think I've covered them all but....... What are your SURNAMES? HTHs, Happy Christmas and New Year! Joanne Joanne Mays Becker Sleepy Hollow, New York In a message dated 12/13/2007 3:54:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mtracey@con-centric.com writes: How far back does your family go in Wartling? I have many from there in 1600 and 1700's. Happy Holidays, Marilyn Tracey ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMBecker@aol.com> To: <Elizwil827@aol.com>; <sussex-plus@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [SXP] Wartling and Hautmonceux > > > Hi Betty! > Many generations of my family are from Wartling and Herstmonceux, my > father > Lewis Frederick MAYS having been born in the latter in 1925. What is the > time period you are interested in? What sort of information are you > interested > in as I have lots I can share. > Cheers, > Joanne > > Joanne Mays Becker > Sleepy Hollow, New York > In a message dated 12/13/2007 2:21:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > Elizwil827@aol.com writes: > > I am interested in researching these two places for information on my > ancestors James Dawe (Wartling) and his wife Sarah (Hautmonceux). Could > someone let > me know where I can look for information either on line or off. I am > located > in the United States. > > Thank you for your input, > > Betty Wilson > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Dear Listers; Would some kind soul with access to the Tortington parish register transcripts or microfilms be able to check the marriage of Richard FORD and Mary KENT (or CHANT; I believe the entry is indistinct) on 17th July 1735? I would be interested to see if there is any mention of which parish Richard came from, or in any other extra information that might be recorded. Sometimes these little extra notes can help break down those annoying brick walls we all hit at one time or another. A Merry Xmas to all from warm (but wet) Australia. Cam Ford Cam and Diana Ford Cinemagic Animated Films Pty. Ltd., 42 Valetta St., Moss Vale, NSW 2577 AUSTRALIA (02) 4868 2378 --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

Hi Mark, This will give you some idea of what is happening there now http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/page_id__7977_path__0p223p.aspx There is lots of other info on this site although I have not yet been able to find anything specifically about Fleet Street. If you search for the station you will find a number of photos etc. I have a map from late 1800's which I will try to scan and send to you - Fleet Street is right at the top. hth, Anne > From: jerry.white@btinternet.com> To: SUSSEX-plus@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:42:39 +0000> Subject: Re: [SXP] 5 FLEET STREET BRIGHTON> > The old Fleet Street in Brighton ran north/south from Ann Street to> Cheapside, parallel to, and to the west of, Belmont Street. I think that it> is now part of new England Street. Certainly, all the old houses in Fleet> Street have long been demolished., and replaced by a row of modern houses.> However, the name has now been revived, and is part of the new Brighton> Station development. I think that the new Fleet Street is quite close to the> old one, and now comprises of new flats. I don't think that any of the> on-line maps show this new development yet.> > Sorry to disappoint you. If it still existed, I could have photographed it> tomorrow, as I will be in that part of Brighton.> > Regards> > Jerry White> > > -----Original Message-----> > From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Barker> > Sent: 15 December 2007 18:52> > To: SUSSEX-plus@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SXP] 5 FLEET STREET BRIGHTON> > > > > > > > My great grand father lived at no 5 Fleet Street Brighton in > > 1871. I would love a photograph of this house if it still exists!> > is there anyone who lives near this address? Any advise?> > > > > > kind regards from South Africa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MARK A BARKER> > P R E T O R I A > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release > > Date: 14/12/2007 11:29> > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 14/12/2007> 11:29> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml

Hi John, Try http://www.westsussexpast.org.uk/gateway/ http://thesussexweald.org/home.asp http://www.sussexrecordsociety.org.uk/home2.asp?an=&ap= Don't know if they will be of help but may be worth a try. cheers, Anne > From: john.newport1@ntlworld.com> To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:02:19 +0000> Subject: [SXP] Great Plague - 1665> > I've read that the plague, of 1665, moved out of London into the rest of the> country and must have reached Sussex but does anyone know which places in> Sussex were hit and where I can find information on those places and the> plague?> > > > IDoes anyone have any idea as to when the plague, country-wide, is> considered to have, finally, died out?> > > > I've searched the Internet but not managed to find what I'm looking for so> would be grateful for any information!> > > > Thanks in anticipation,> > > > Regards to all,> > > > John> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Free games, great prizes - get gaming at Gamesbox. http://www.searchgamesbox.com

I remember reading this "Men of Bosham During the Plague year of 1664, the people of Bosham took food to citizens of Chichester, who were confined within the City Walls. Because of this Christian charity, they were granted the right to sell fish in any market in England without paying tolls. They have the rights to free mooring, wild-fowling, and fishing within the waters of Bosham Harbour. " SoI guess it was in the city but not in the surrounding area. Regards Lynne B Sweden ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Newport" <john.newport1@ntlworld.com> To: "Sussex Plus-L" <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [SXP] Great Plague - 1665 > I've read that the plague, of 1665, moved out of London into the rest of > the > country and must have reached Sussex but does anyone know which places in > Sussex were hit and where I can find information on those places and the > plague? > > > > IDoes anyone have any idea as to when the plague, country-wide, is > considered to have, finally, died out? > > > > I've searched the Internet but not managed to find what I'm looking for so > would be grateful for any information! > > > > Thanks in anticipation, > > > > Regards to all, > > > > John > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1185 - Release Date: > 2007-12-15 12:00 > >

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:58:41 -0000 "Marion Woolgar" <woolgar@one-name.org> wrote: Hello Marion, > One of the reasons for the spread outside London lay in the fact that Another reason for the spread being that people killed cats and dogs, as they were thought to carry the plague. Obviously, they were killing the very creatures that could help reduce the rat population. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" This disease is catching Into The Valley - Skids

Thank you to all listers who replied to my request. I now have the answer, I hope. I got a lovely lot of answers. You are all such a great help in one's hour of need. Keep up the good work. Kind regards Judy New Zealand

The Great Plague certainly did occur outside London. There are records of it appearing in Southampton and Portsmouth, and in the area around the Kent ports - the theory being that it was brought in by fleas on rats aboard boats arriving from Holland where their outbreak of Plague pre-dated ours. Other places were also affected and there was a TV programme a couple of years back about Eyam in Derbyshire which voluntarily quarantined itself when the Plague appeared there and 80% of the villagers died. If I remember rightly, the Plague was said to have arrived at Eyam when a bundle of flea-infested clothes arrived from London. One of the reasons for the spread outside London lay in the fact that the "Quality" moved out of London when the Plague was first discovered. The King's Court went to Hampton Court, those who had Country estates moved there and most of the clergy and surgeons left the area as well and took their families and entourages with them. I expect that a good few ordinary Londoners also left the area before the City gates were closed. It took just one flea to travel with them to spread the Plague. I have never seen a map showing the complete distribution of the Plague from 1664 to 1666, but it would be interesting to see one. Has the Plague died out completely? I seem to remember news reports of individual cases of Bubonic Plague from time-to-time. Wasn't the last one somewhere in America? Best wishes Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

I've read that the plague, of 1665, moved out of London into the rest of the country and must have reached Sussex but does anyone know which places in Sussex were hit and where I can find information on those places and the plague? IDoes anyone have any idea as to when the plague, country-wide, is considered to have, finally, died out? I've searched the Internet but not managed to find what I'm looking for so would be grateful for any information! Thanks in anticipation, Regards to all, John

The old Fleet Street in Brighton ran north/south from Ann Street to Cheapside, parallel to, and to the west of, Belmont Street. I think that it is now part of new England Street. Certainly, all the old houses in Fleet Street have long been demolished., and replaced by a row of modern houses. However, the name has now been revived, and is part of the new Brighton Station development. I think that the new Fleet Street is quite close to the old one, and now comprises of new flats. I don't think that any of the on-line maps show this new development yet. Sorry to disappoint you. If it still existed, I could have photographed it tomorrow, as I will be in that part of Brighton. Regards Jerry White > -----Original Message----- > From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Barker > Sent: 15 December 2007 18:52 > To: SUSSEX-plus@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SXP] 5 FLEET STREET BRIGHTON > > > > My great grand father lived at no 5 Fleet Street Brighton in > 1871. I would love a photograph of this house if it still exists! > is there anyone who lives near this address? Any advise? > > > kind regards from South Africa > > > > > > > > MARK A BARKER > P R E T O R I A > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release > Date: 14/12/2007 11:29 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 14/12/2007 11:29

My great grand father lived at no 5 Fleet Street Brighton in 1871. I would love a photograph of this house if it still exists! is there anyone who lives near this address? Any advise? kind regards from South Africa MARK A BARKER P R E T O R I A

On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 20:51 +0200, Mark Barker wrote: > > My great grand father lived at no 5 Fleet Street Brighton in 1871. I would love a photograph of this house if it still exists! > is there anyone who lives near this address? Any advise? > It's a small World. My great grandfather Benjamin Hewett, lived there in 1880! -- Regards Dave

Hello All I should have been clearer in my posting, and I do apologise; I was somewhat distracted by something happening at the neighbours'! I do indeed have details of birth, baptism and death for Thomas Walter ADAMTHWAITE, and a baptism for his sister Ann. I cannot find a baptism for their brother (and my gg.grandfather), Alfred Andrew ADAMTHWAITE, also born in Horsham in 1834 - though we've never found either of his two marriages, either. My question was where Thomas may have been interred in Horsham - I have no knowledge of the town other than a couple of visits before I knew I had any connection to the place, so am unaware whether the parish church had / has a churchyard, or if there was a cememtery nearby - or even churches of another denomination within the twon that had their own burial grounds. Many thanks to Rosie, Dave and Marion who have replied. Margaret

There is a baptism at Horsham on 03 Apr 1839 for a Thomas Walter ALLAN-THWAITE, son of William & Eleanor, Schoolmaster, born 18 Feb 1839. Also, a baptism on 29 Jul 1835 of Ann Hannah, daur of William & Eleanor ADAMTHWAITE, Schoolmaster. There is also a burial of Thomas Walter ADAMTHWAITE on 22 Mar 1840 aged 1. The burial may have taken place in the churchyard of Horsham, St. Mary or in Denne Road Cemetery, but others with more detailed local knowledge will be better placed to advise you on this point. All found on the PRTS transcript of the parish registers of Horsham, St. Mary. Best wishes Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex