Try Free BMD: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl (start Sept '37 and on) Town, Parish, County might help too. Edna - Ottawa

Thank you to Tess and Marion for sorting out the two marriages of Thomas Sturt in 1802 and 1898 in Slinfold. I am still trying to find his baptism about 1779 in Rothersfield. His place of birth is from the 1851 census and may not be correct. I have had some progress with the other Thomas Sturt bap 1770 in Billingshurst. His parents were Edward Sturt and Rachel Longhurst, they married 1756 in Rudgwick ( found on IGI under HURT). I found a Settlement order in A2A for Edward STIRT and Rachel when they moved from Rudgwick to Billinghurst but no date. It appears that their first 5 children were born in Rudgwick and 3 more in Billingshurst including Thomas in 1770 who moved back to Rudgwick and Slinfold. There is burial of Edward Sturt in Billinghurst in 1789 and a will in Chichester RO for an Edward Sturt of Rudgwick in 1790. I shall have to order a copy of the will to see if it the same Edward. To go back another generation, I need to find an Edward Sturt (Stirt) born about 1730 in the Rudgwick area, or knowing how they tended to move about it could be anywhere. I have checked all the usual online sources so can anyone local help, please? Clues to his father or mothers' names in his childrens' names : Edward, John, Leah, Rachel,Sarah,William and Thomas. Thank you again for your help. Ros.

Hi Heather, This may help http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/category_id__409_path__0p114p.aspx cheers, Anne > From: heather.brooks@virgin.net> To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:51:55 +0000> Subject: [SXP] Church near Kemp Town> > Hi, if someone lived in Kemp Town, Brighton where would the have most likely married 1851-1858> Regards, Heather Brooks> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Hi, if someone lived in Kemp Town, Brighton where would the have most likely married 1851-1858 Regards, Heather Brooks

I am a new listee and have been trying to trace back the parents of my gr gr grandmother, Mary Martha Weston, born 23 Feb 1818 in Burwash, SX but moved to the USA with her family. Her parents were Richard Weston born 1797 (Richard and family appear in the 1850 census for Cleveland Ohio and Richard's age is stated as 53) who married Martha Westover 4 Apr 1817 in Burwash, SX. They had nine children: Mary Martha b) 23 Feb 1818 in Burwash Elizabeth Sarah b) Dec 1819 in ???, SX Leatitia b) 21 Jan 1822 in Burwash Stringer John b) abt 1824 in Burwash Thomas Westover b) 19 Dec 1828 in Bermandsay Jane Ann b) 24 Jun 1831 in Brightling Lydia A. b) 21 Sep 1833 in ??? (date from family records) Matilda b) abt 1835 in New York City, USA (from census records) Henry H. b) abt 1839 in New York City, USA (from census records) They must have immigrated to the US between Lydia's birth in 1833 in England and Matilda's birth in NYC in 1835. The only one of the children who apparently did not immigrate with the family appears to be Stringer John who does not appear on any records that I can find in the US (he does not appear on any census records) - perhaps he died before the family left England. I have been looking for Richard's birth records and am searching for his parents. The family appear to have been non-conformists - Presbyterian - so perhaps that is why the COE records do not contain any reference. I have found good records for my gr gr gr grandmother Martha Westover and her family but have not been able to find any trace of Richard's birth or family. Can anyone help me find Richard's family? Dick Howard, East of Cleveland, Ohio, USA

It looks as though Thomas was previously married and by Licence on both occasions. Here are some entries from the SMI: Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Archdeaconry of Chichester Marriage Licence, Date: 10 Apr 1802: Subject: Thomas STURT, Slinfold shopkeeper bach 23 Spouse: Sarah PATCHING, otsp minor 18 wcom Mary Slinfold Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Slinfold, West Sussex, Date: 12 Apr 1802: Subject: Thomas STURT, bach otp Spouse: Sarah PATCHING, sp otp (lic) Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Archdeaconry of Chichester Marriage Licence, Date: 6 Feb 1808: Subject: Thomas STURT, Slinfold shopkeeper widr 27 Spouse: Mary STANFORD, otsp sp 21 Extract from the Sussex Marriage Index: Place: Slinfold, West Sussex, Date: 10 Feb 1808: Subject: Thomas STURT, widr otp Spouse: Mary STANFORD, sp otp (lic) Could there be an error, either on the IGI or when the Vicar wrote in his Register and the mother of the child baptised in 1802 was Sarah and not Mary? You will need to check the Parish Register to be sure. If you live at a distance from WSRO, I could check this baptism entry for you. However, you will need to be patient for a short while as my next intended visit there is not until 15th March. Best wishes Marion Woolgar Bognor Regis, West Sussex

Hi Ros - That's the only Mary I could find around the right date. I have learned that the IGI is not always that accurate. I noticed the name because I have an Edward HAWKINS from Stopham in my tree who married Elizabeth STURT in 1737. Tess.11414 -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ros Dunnico Sent: 03 March 2008 22:02 To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SXP] Sturts of Billingshurst and Rotherfield Thank you, Tess, for the marriage of Thomas Sturt and Mary Stanford on 10 Feb 1808 in Slinfold. I know this is the right one because of of their sons was Harry Stanford Sturt. But as always our ancestors dont make it easy for us. If they married in 1808 why was their daughter Mary Sturt baptised on 4 July 1802 in Slinfold (from IGI). Is it possible Thomas was married before to another Mary who died? Ros. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tess Spencer" <tessspencer@btinternet.com> To: "'Ros Dunnico'" <ros.dunn@tiscali.co.uk>; <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: RE: [SXP] Sturts of Billingshurst and Rotherfield > Marriage - Thomas Sturt and Mary Stanford 10/2/1808 Slinfold SFHG > marriage index. Tess Spencer 11414 > > -----Original Message----- > From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ros Dunnico > Sent: 03 March 2008 09:53 > To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SXP] Sturts of Billingshurst and Rotherfield > > Hi, > Can somebody help, please. I have two THOMAS STURTs. One was born about > 1770 in Billingshurst (as shown on 1851 census) and believe he could be > the > son of Edward and Rachel Sturt. I cannot find a marriage for Edward and > Rachel. Thomas married Elizabeth Field in 1795 in Rudgwick. > The other Thomas was born about 1779 in Rotherfield (1851 census) and > married Mary ? No marriage found for them. > Both these Thomas's settled and had families in either Rudgwick or > Slinfold. > There are also connections to Billingshurst and Horsham. I think they are > related because their childrens names are very similar, but need to find > their parents and possibly grandparents to prove it. > > I have found on A2A a disturbing reference to a John Sturt of > Billingshurst > in 1721 and the Horsham Baptist Chapel. So could they have been Baptists? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Ros in Essex. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Tess, for the marriage of Thomas Sturt and Mary Stanford on 10 Feb 1808 in Slinfold. I know this is the right one because of of their sons was Harry Stanford Sturt. But as always our ancestors dont make it easy for us. If they married in 1808 why was their daughter Mary Sturt baptised on 4 July 1802 in Slinfold (from IGI). Is it possible Thomas was married before to another Mary who died? Ros. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tess Spencer" <tessspencer@btinternet.com> To: "'Ros Dunnico'" <ros.dunn@tiscali.co.uk>; <SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: RE: [SXP] Sturts of Billingshurst and Rotherfield > Marriage - Thomas Sturt and Mary Stanford 10/2/1808 Slinfold SFHG > marriage index. Tess Spencer 11414 > > -----Original Message----- > From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ros Dunnico > Sent: 03 March 2008 09:53 > To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SXP] Sturts of Billingshurst and Rotherfield > > Hi, > Can somebody help, please. I have two THOMAS STURTs. One was born about > 1770 in Billingshurst (as shown on 1851 census) and believe he could be > the > son of Edward and Rachel Sturt. I cannot find a marriage for Edward and > Rachel. Thomas married Elizabeth Field in 1795 in Rudgwick. > The other Thomas was born about 1779 in Rotherfield (1851 census) and > married Mary ? No marriage found for them. > Both these Thomas's settled and had families in either Rudgwick or > Slinfold. > There are also connections to Billingshurst and Horsham. I think they are > related because their childrens names are very similar, but need to find > their parents and possibly grandparents to prove it. > > I have found on A2A a disturbing reference to a John Sturt of > Billingshurst > in 1721 and the Horsham Baptist Chapel. So could they have been Baptists? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Ros in Essex. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Marriage - Thomas Sturt and Mary Stanford 10/2/1808 Slinfold SFHG marriage index. Tess Spencer 11414 -----Original Message----- From: sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sussex-plus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ros Dunnico Sent: 03 March 2008 09:53 To: SUSSEX-PLUS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SXP] Sturts of Billingshurst and Rotherfield Hi, Can somebody help, please. I have two THOMAS STURTs. One was born about 1770 in Billingshurst (as shown on 1851 census) and believe he could be the son of Edward and Rachel Sturt. I cannot find a marriage for Edward and Rachel. Thomas married Elizabeth Field in 1795 in Rudgwick. The other Thomas was born about 1779 in Rotherfield (1851 census) and married Mary ? No marriage found for them. Both these Thomas's settled and had families in either Rudgwick or Slinfold. There are also connections to Billingshurst and Horsham. I think they are related because their childrens names are very similar, but need to find their parents and possibly grandparents to prove it. I have found on A2A a disturbing reference to a John Sturt of Billingshurst in 1721 and the Horsham Baptist Chapel. So could they have been Baptists? Any help would be appreciated. Ros in Essex. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Can somebody help, please. I have two THOMAS STURTs. One was born about 1770 in Billingshurst (as shown on 1851 census) and believe he could be the son of Edward and Rachel Sturt. I cannot find a marriage for Edward and Rachel. Thomas married Elizabeth Field in 1795 in Rudgwick. The other Thomas was born about 1779 in Rotherfield (1851 census) and married Mary ? No marriage found for them. Both these Thomas's settled and had families in either Rudgwick or Slinfold. There are also connections to Billingshurst and Horsham. I think they are related because their childrens names are very similar, but need to find their parents and possibly grandparents to prove it. I have found on A2A a disturbing reference to a John Sturt of Billingshurst in 1721 and the Horsham Baptist Chapel. So could they have been Baptists? Any help would be appreciated. Ros in Essex.

I'm looking for more information on the following families. First Generation 1. Christopher MITCHELL, M. Born about 1801 in Camberwell, Surrey, England. Occupation: Labourer In 1840. There was a Christopher MITCHELL born 9th September 1803 and christened 13th November 1803 at St Giles, Camberwell, London, England. He was born to John and Harriet MITCHELL. There was a Christopher MITCHELL marrying and Caroline DIGBY on 1st September 1830 in St Mary's, Lambeth, Surrey, England. 1841 Census Gosport Place, Greenwich Christopher MITCHELL 40 lab not born in Kent Caroline 36 not born in Kent James 15 lab not born in Kent John 7 not born in Kent Mary 16 not born in Kent Harriet 10 not born in Kent Caroline 15m born Kent HO107/489 folio 18 page 30 and the following page 1851 - Greenwich Rd, Charlton, Kent Christopher MITCHELL hear mar 47 labourer (can't quite read the rest of the occupation) b.Camberwell Surrey Caroline wife 43 b.Camberwell Surrey Harriett dau 19 b.Camberwell Surrey John son 16 blacksmith's apprentice b.Camberwell Surrey Caroline dau 12 b.Greenwich Kent Matilda dau 2 b.Charlton Kent HO107/1590 folio 36 page 14 Christopher married Caroline, F. Born about 1805 in Camberwell, Surrey, England. Second Generation 2. Mary MITCHELL, F. Born about 1825. 3. James MITCHELL, M. Born about 1826. 4. Harriet MITCHELL, F. Born about 1831 in Camberwell, Surrey, England. Christened on 15 September 1833 in St Mark, Kennington, Surrey, England. 5. Christopher MITCHELL, M. Born about 1833. Christened on 15 September 1833 in St Mark, Kennington, Surrey, England. 6. John MITCHELL, M. Born on 25 November 1833 in Camberwell, Surrey, England. Christened on 23 April 1841 in St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England. Occupation: Blacksmith's Apprentice In 1851. 7. John MITCHELL, M. Born on 27 November 1834. Christened on 19 December 1834 in St Giles, Camberwell, London, England. 8. Mary Ann MITCHELL, F. Born on 18 August 1836. Christened on 9 September 1836 in St Giles, Camberwell, London, England. 9. Moses MITCHELL, M. Born on 5 March 1838. Christened on 23 March 1838 in St Giles, Camberwell, London, England. 10. Caroline MITCHELL, F. Born about 1839 in Greenwich, Kent, England. Christened on 25 December 1839 in St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England. 11. Hannah MITCHELL, F. Born about 1844. Christened on 14 February 1844 in St Alphage, Greenwich, Kent, England. 12. Matilda MITCHELL, F. Born about 1849 in Charleton, Kent, England.

Hello Folks, I am back working on my WHITE tree and trying to find the parentage of my "Brickwall" one Henry WHITE who has been sitting at the top of my tree for far too long From the data I have collected it seems likely he is one of the 11 children born to Richard White and Sarah Penfold at Maresfield between 1678 and 1693 They had 2 sons named Henry so I have assumed the one I am looking for is the second Henry baptized Feb 27 1686. I am in hopes someone has access to the Maresfield Registers who can verify all the children of Richard and Sarah, and any deaths recorded SMI shows Richard and Sarah Penfold as being married at Worth, 26 Sep 1676 but there does not seem to be any children baptized there So I live in hopes that Sussex Plus can come up" Trumps" again Phil White in New Hampshire USA where we are breaking records for snow fall this year (if you would like a photo or two let me know.)

This is not really on the list but I have hit a brick wall and really need some help. I have a relative, William Charles Hoaten, who was in the BSAP (British south African Police) ie British police in Southern Rhodesia. I am not sure of the exact dates but his employ is at least from 1908 - c.1955. By 1931 he was a , W.C.,R.S.M., S.R.V. I have no idea what this means... He also fought in WW1 where he was a Lieutenantand received a medal. He died with the rank of a Major in 1955. Can anyone suggest where I may be able to find out more information about him? Is there any British military organization I could approach? As Rhodesia was a British colony during the time he was in the police force, I am hoping that some British based orgainization may hold some information - getting information out of Zimbabwe in nigh impossible at the moment. Many thanks Michelle Essers Israel

Hi Michelle, There is a rootsweb list - http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Occupations/POLICE-UK.html. This may also be of use http://www.bsap.org/index.html hth, Anne > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:23:38 +0200> From: essersfam@gmail.com> To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SXP] British Police service records> > This is not really on the list but I have hit a brick wall and really> need some help.> > I have a relative, William Charles Hoaten, who was in the BSAP> (British south African Police) ie British police in Southern Rhodesia.> I am not sure of the exact dates but his employ is at least from 1908> - c.1955. By 1931 he was a , W.C.,R.S.M., S.R.V. I have no idea what> this means... He also fought in WW1 where he was a Lieutenantand> received a medal. He died with the rank of a Major in 1955.> > Can anyone suggest where I may be able to find out more information> about him? Is there any British military organization I could> approach? As Rhodesia was a British colony during the time he was in> the police force, I am hoping that some British based orgainization> may hold some information - getting information out of Zimbabwe in> nigh impossible at the moment.> > Many thanks> > Michelle Essers> Israel> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com

Hi: Looking for descendants of John Henry Ross who had eight children , some born in Bodmin, Portsmouth Hampshire and Gillingham. Any members of this Ross family still living in the area. Any information will be greatly appreciated, trying to make a connection. Thanks, Jacquie

Michelle, There is a very active group of ex-BSAP people out there that should be able to help you out. Their website is www.bsap.org. They also have several discussion groups on yahoo, one of which is dedicated to the history of the BSAP. The main intent of the groups is to act as a forum for ex-BSAP members but they will allow outsiders (such as myself) participate from time to time. I am distantly related to Col William Bodle who was the first commisioner of the BSAP. If you would like, I can post your query to their mailing list (just send me an e-mail of list if you would like me to do that). Regards Mark Milton PS It is the British South Africa Police rather than the British South African Police. Michelle Essers wrote: > This is not really on the list but I have hit a brick wall and really > need some help. > > I have a relative, William Charles Hoaten, who was in the BSAP > (British south African Police) ie British police in Southern Rhodesia. > I am not sure of the exact dates but his employ is at least from 1908 > - c.1955. By 1931 he was a , W.C.,R.S.M., S.R.V. I have no idea what > this means... He also fought in WW1 where he was a Lieutenantand > received a medal. He died with the rank of a Major in 1955. > > Can anyone suggest where I may be able to find out more information > about him? Is there any British military organization I could > approach? As Rhodesia was a British colony during the time he was in > the police force, I am hoping that some British based orgainization > may hold some information - getting information out of Zimbabwe in > nigh impossible at the moment. > > Many thanks > > Michelle Essers > Israel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Everyone I am looking for anyone researching the above surname or the variants of the name in the Seaford area. In particular for an Emily Simmons maiden name was Ryan she would have been born after 1913 do not know where or her Mothers name. Father was George Edward Ryan he was born 1893 Edmonton, Middlesex to whom I do not know. All I was told by my Mum she married & lived in Seaford would like to know more. Looking in the Ancestry phone books there are some Simmons in Seaford may be someone on this list is researching this surname who may know some thing. Pauline No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: 29/02/2008 6:32 PM

Reposting my search name; NOVIS, Arthur b:1882, m:1901 to Elizabeth Maud (Ballard) Novis in St Leonards on the Sea Had on child in East Preston in 1904 Any help would be greatly apprectiated Thanks Dave

Hi Maree, I think I have found him in 1851 and 1861 but he was born in Cowfold? This is not a million miles away from Cuckfield (about 5 actually!). He is living with his grandparents both times. By 1871 he has married and I can also find him in 1881 and 1891 if you would like the images. I think his birth may be Sept qtr 1846 Cuckfield vol 7 p333. This would find his parents so may allow you to find them in 1841. It looks like they may have died by 1851. Will send images off list. cheers, Anne > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:31:16 +1300> From: tappets@clear.net.nz> To: sussex-plus@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SXP] 1851 Census - AKEHURST Cuckfield, Lindfield> > Hello from New Zealand> > Can anyone help here please??> > Whose household was this wee laddie living in please - does he have > parents / siblings??> > 1851 Census William AKEHURST - 4yrs - Cuckfield, Lindfield> > Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon, New Zealand> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SUSSEX-PLUS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Free games, great prizes - get gaming at Gamesbox. http://www.searchgamesbox.com

Hello from New Zealand Can anyone help here please?? Whose household was this wee laddie living in please - does he have parents / siblings?? 1851 Census William AKEHURST - 4yrs - Cuckfield, Lindfield Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon, New Zealand