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    1. Re: [SXP] MARY NEWMAN
    2. Jenny Myers
    3. Doreen have you tried using the Electoral Rolls to find Mary Newman? I had great success with my widowed Gr Grandmother using the ERs for Croydon. Hope this helps, Jenny

    04/13/2011 07:34:24
    1. Re: [SXP] MARY NEWMAN
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. I am not sure how you might find the information in more recent years as that would be under a 75 year closure or even 100 years and that is if the information exists Many later health records are destroyed after so many years (20?) She might be recorded in the 1901 or 1911 census if she was blind from an early age, the 1911 has that part redacted at present Apart from that I can't think of anything that might show the information Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Could someone offer advice as to how I can find out if my Aunt, Mary Newman > b.1899 inHighgate London (died in Bournemouth 1988) > was blind as conveyed to me by older members of my family (now deceased). > > Many thanks in anticipation. > Doreen

    04/12/2011 03:28:55
    1. [SXP] MARY NEWMAN
    2. Doreen King
    3. Could someone offer advice as to how I can find out if my Aunt, Mary Newman b.1899 inHighgate London (died in Bournemouth 1988) was blind as conveyed to me by older members of my family (now deceased). Many thanks in anticipation. Doreen

    04/12/2011 03:12:00
    1. [SXP] ROWLAND - MILES
    2. Jenny Myers
    3. I am looking for Pauline Riches who has an interest in my ROWLAND family from Haywards Heath and Shermanbury. Pauline, or anyone knowing her, could you please contact me privately. Thank you, Jenny

    04/12/2011 01:06:43
    1. Re: [SXP] Death of an infant (CARTER) - Hailsham District
    2. Leslea Linnett
    3. Hello Diana, Is there any chance she was adopted out ? Or is there a chance a childless couple in the family 'took her on' as their own. Is there a female in the family born 1944 who is an only child with the christian name Heather or Angela or has a middle name of either of those two? Just a thought. Leslea Toowoomba. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diana Ingram Sent: Monday, 11 April 2011 11:38 PM To: Sussex List Subject: [SXP] Death of an infant (CARTER) - Hailsham District Hello I am throwing this query from my particular brick wall into the list for one more try in case someone else has any ideas. A child, Angela Heather CARTER, was born in Pevensey Bay on 28th September 1944 - at home - 12 Fielding Terrace. I believe it may have been Army accommodation at that time. We have been told that she died shortly after birth although no death certificate can be found. We have the birth certificate. The family were Roman Catholic. They moved to Carisbrooke Road, St Leonard's on Sea shortly afterwards but as no Electoral Registers were taken during the war I cannot find the address where they lived - 13 Carisbrooke Road - apparently a house shared by other family members too, ROBINSON and WHITE. I have enquired at many cemeteries around East Sussex and so far none have a record of either her burial or that of her parents later on. I would have thought even if she was very poorly a baptism would have been carried at home and from earlier research I understand this would have been entered into the parish register by the priest afterwards. (I have a copy of such a baptism which took place in 1917 where the child was "in fear of death" and baptised at home) She lived and we found her baptism at the Church of Our Lady Star of the Sea in Hastings. ! She was the mother of Angela CARTER. Bob Waters gave me lots of tips last time I tried to solve this puzzle and I think I have followed up every one of his suggestions and so far nothing can be found. Any help, advice or new ideas anyone can give me will be much appreciated and if not successful then I must put her to sleep once and for all and give up on this particular mystery. With thanks and kind regards Diana Ingram ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/12/2011 02:10:58
    1. [SXP] Death of an infant (CARTER) - Hailsham District
    2. Diana Ingram
    3. Hello I am throwing this query from my particular brick wall into the list for one more try in case someone else has any ideas. A child, Angela Heather CARTER, was born in Pevensey Bay on 28th September 1944 - at home - 12 Fielding Terrace. I believe it may have been Army accommodation at that time. We have been told that she died shortly after birth although no death certificate can be found. We have the birth certificate. The family were Roman Catholic. They moved to Carisbrooke Road, St Leonard's on Sea shortly afterwards but as no Electoral Registers were taken during the war I cannot find the address where they lived - 13 Carisbrooke Road - apparently a house shared by other family members too, ROBINSON and WHITE. I have enquired at many cemeteries around East Sussex and so far none have a record of either her burial or that of her parents later on. I would have thought even if she was very poorly a baptism would have been carried at home and from earlier research I understand this would have been entered into the parish register by the priest afterwards. (I have a copy of such a baptism which took place in 1917 where the child was "in fear of death" and baptised at home) She lived and we found her baptism at the Church of Our Lady Star of the Sea in Hastings. She was the mother of Angela CARTER. Bob Waters gave me lots of tips last time I tried to solve this puzzle and I think I have followed up every one of his suggestions and so far nothing can be found. Any help, advice or new ideas anyone can give me will be much appreciated and if not successful then I must put her to sleep once and for all and give up on this particular mystery. With thanks and kind regards Diana Ingram

    04/11/2011 08:37:42
    1. [SXP] Cliftonville congregational church
    2. Anne Capewell
    3. Hello, Does anyone know where I can view the registers for Cliftonville congregational church in Hove? I have tried searching online but to no avail and I wonder of they survive today. My great grandmother Alice Terry was married there to William Pratt in 1888 - at least her marriage cert says 1888 but this was after three of her children had been born and she states that she is married to him on each of their birth cert! But then there are many other things in her life that have not been what they seemed........... thanks, Anne

    04/10/2011 02:58:34
    1. [SXP] Newmans of Northchapel
    2. Brian Newman
    3. Good Day List I was subscribed to this list many years ago, but I believe I must have slipped off the bottom as I have had no messages for several years. I have therefore recently re-subscribed and would just like to introduce myself and to list my interests for possible contact with other subscribers with similar interests. My earliest known Newman ancestor is William Newman bap 26 Aug 1789 Northchapel married to Ann Gilbert bap 1793 Fernhurst. (My 2GGParents) I believe his father was Henry Newman also of Northchapel married to Mary Munfield or Mary Holden. William and Ann had 10 children including my GGFather William Newman bap 5 Oct 1834 in Northchapel married to Elizabeth Peto of Godalming Surrey. Any info to expand on my knowledge would be much appreciated. I have quite lot of data myself and very happy to share. Regards Brian Newman

    04/09/2011 05:37:37
    1. Re: [SXP] Family of soldiers
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Leslea I have found in my reading of the subject that Regiments had a quota system of sorts for taking women abroad, so many per company of men, they were virtually all soldiers wives as far as I can tell There was no single rule and it varied by Regiment but about 6 women per Company It was a cruel system, they would go down to the quay and draw lots on the day, those who won went, the others didn't simple as that (or was it those that lost went :-) If they went they would be mentioned in some form if only in the pay, I can't recall if they were paid or the men got more but think the men got extra rations for them , they were more or less domestic servants to the men while abroad I haven't come across any documents that name women that went with them but thats not to say they don't exist I gather the Regimental orders mention how many went but don't know if they were named or not It must have been a bleak existance at times However I do know that many women went under their own steam and so would not be mentioned, neither would they get rations Any surviving records would be at Kew I believe Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > I have a Samuel Verrall born 1787 in Ninfield Sussex, who was a Chelsea > Pensioner, 1st Battn 5th Regiment Or Foot. He died in Hailsham in 1855. From > what I can gather he lost his arm in 1814. > If his name was drawn from a ballot to allow him to take family on service, > are there records of who they were or on a particular campaign? There is a > story that 2 sisters went to France. > > Can anyone suggest where the documents might be if they exist please. I > have the 2 pages of his service from Findmypast. > > With thanks > Leslea LINNETT (Verrall) > Toowoomba. Queensland

    04/07/2011 05:37:11
    1. Re: [SXP] Family of soldiers
    2. Brian
    3. Leslea I (personally) begin with William & Mary Varrall and their offspring, who were baptised at The Zoar Chapel Independent, High St., Strood, Rochester, Kent, between 1802-1819. William was a pilot, but whether Medway, Thames or otherwise, I have yet to ascertain - Greenwich Maritime Museum perhaps, when I can schedule a trip. Many contacts and snippets from other interested parties over the years suggest that the name originated almost exclusively from the Sussex/Kent region, with variations in spelling over the odd e or a being commonplace. There is at least one other contemporary Varrall line stemming from Rochester, the almost certain critical link with which continues to evade me. One of these days I shall persuade my wife that we need to spend some time in the area (a shop specialising in small shoe sizes would be the clincher), at which time I will make sure to include a visit to the Maritime Museum as well as the local record offices, maybe even find out more of the Zoar fraternity. Brian On 7 Apr 2011, at 11:11, Leslea Linnett wrote: > Hello Brian, > Where are your Verrall/Varrall's from? Ours were around Sussex. > Is there anyone in particular you are looking for > Leslea

    04/07/2011 12:45:11
    1. [SXP] Family of soldiers
    2. Leslea Linnett
    3. I have a Samuel Verrall born 1787 in Ninfield Sussex, who was a Chelsea Pensioner, 1st Battn 5th Regiment Or Foot. He died in Hailsham in 1855. From what I can gather he lost his arm in 1814. If his name was drawn from a ballot to allow him to take family on service, are there records of who they were or on a particular campaign? There is a story that 2 sisters went to France. Can anyone suggest where the documents might be if they exist please. I have the 2 pages of his service from Findmypast. With thanks Leslea LINNETT (Verrall) Toowoomba. Queensland

    04/07/2011 05:12:27
    1. Re: [SXP] Family of soldiers
    2. Brian
    3. Hi Leslea. If, during the course of your Verrall inquiries, you come across any VARRALL variations, I'm still around, still hunting. Regards Brian Varrall Devon On 7 Apr 2011, at 02:12, Leslea Linnett wrote: > I have a Samuel Verrall born 1787 in Ninfield Sussex, who was a Chelsea > Pensioner, .... > Leslea LINNETT (Verrall) > Toowoomba. Queensland

    04/07/2011 03:46:27
    1. Re: [SXP] Family of soldiers
    2. Peter Enlund
    3. Dear Listers There is an excellent and very readable book on this subject. Folowing the Drum, by Annabel Venning Regards, Peter in Armidale, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> To: "Leslea Linnett" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [SXP] Family of soldiers > Hi Leslea > > I have found in my reading of the subject that Regiments had a quota > system of sorts for taking > women abroad, so many per company of men, they were virtually all soldiers > wives as far as I can > tell > > There was no single rule and it varied by Regiment but about 6 women per > Company > > It was a cruel system, they would go down to the quay and draw lots on the > day, those who won went, > the others didn't simple as that (or was it those that lost went :-) > > If they went they would be mentioned in some form if only in the pay, I > can't recall if they were > paid or the men got more but think the men got extra rations for them , > they were more or less > domestic servants to the men while abroad > > I haven't come across any documents that name women that went with them > but thats not to say they > don't exist > > I gather the Regimental orders mention how many went but don't know if > they were named or not > > It must have been a bleak existance at times > > However I do know that many women went under their own steam and so would > not be mentioned, neither > would they get rations > > Any surviving records would be at Kew I believe > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> I have a Samuel Verrall born 1787 in Ninfield Sussex, who was a Chelsea >> Pensioner, 1st Battn 5th Regiment Or Foot. He died in Hailsham in 1855. >> From >> what I can gather he lost his arm in 1814. >> If his name was drawn from a ballot to allow him to take family on >> service, >> are there records of who they were or on a particular campaign? There is >> a >> story that 2 sisters went to France. >> >> Can anyone suggest where the documents might be if they exist please. I >> have the 2 pages of his service from Findmypast. >> >> With thanks >> Leslea LINNETT (Verrall) >> Toowoomba. Queensland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/06/2011 02:44:27
    1. [SXP] Baker and Verrall in Hailsham.
    2. Graham and Leslea Linnett
    3. Hello List. I'm updating my Verrall data. Jane Verrall, born 31 May 1818, Hailsham. Daughter of James Verrall and Ann Prior. Married John Baker, 1817 Ewhurst Sussex and died 1898 Hailsham. Children. Elijah 1842. Sophia 1844, William 1846, Miriam 1842, Lois 1852, Fanny 1857 and Morgan b. 1860. I'm looking for descendants of the above to update my family tree. I am off James Verrall b. 1815 and Maria Bakers (b. 1823) line. With thanks Leslea Toowoomba. Queensland.

    04/05/2011 02:04:15
    1. [SXP] MOON
    2. ROBIN COATES
    3. Hello. I am trying to help a researcher in Australia with the MOON family in Rye in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries and would be grateful for help with this. Many thanks, Robin

    04/05/2011 04:22:12
    1. [SXP] BONIFACE
    2. Phil White
    3. Hi Folks, Hope someone with connections to the Boniface group can help with this. Richard Boniface married Ann White in Hurstpierpoint on 08 April 1771 and I hope someone can give mw Ann's death date and place Phil White in New Hampshire USA

    04/01/2011 03:38:05
    1. [SXP] SussexLink published
    2. Trevor Hanson
    3. The latest SussexLink, Sussex Family History Group's e-newsletter, has just been published. See it at www.sfhg.org.uk/sussexlink.html. Or send an e-mail to [email protected] to subscribe.   Trevor    [email protected] www.sfhg.org.uk

    04/01/2011 02:12:28
    1. [SXP] "church marks"
    2. Ruth
    3. Thanks to everyone who gave me the information on church marks. The account in the Sussex Archaeological Society book is almost a mini census of the people living there in 1759 (there's also a listing from 1697). Now if I could just find the marriage of my Ambrose Gallard to Anne ??? circa 1735. Thanks again. Ruth Ontario,Canada

    03/31/2011 07:34:57
    1. Re: [SXP] Ambrose GALLARD
    2. Anne Capewell
    3. just found another one! http://www.easthoathlychurch.org/building.html Originally our churchyard was surrounded by a post-and-rail fence. Maintaining this fence was the responsibility of parish landowners, with the length of fence proportional to the area of land owned. The lengths were marked off by initials carved on the posts. These “church marks” gave their name to Church Marks Lane, on which the Church stands. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:04:27 +0100 > Subject: Re: [SXP] Ambrose GALLARD > > > Hi Ruth, > > don't know if it was a Sussex term but according to http://www.chiddinglychurch.org.uk/churchguide/churchguide4.html > > THE CHURCHYARD is bounded by a low post and rail fence which was completely renewed by subscription in 1990, as it could no longer profit by repair. It had served for over 200 years, carrying the initials of 56 local landowners and farmers who had contributed units of 'one set of post and three rails' according to acreage held. These were known as "Church Marks". The new fence of solid oak was fashioned, as of old, without the use of a single nail. Four gates, a kissing gate, a stile and all the rails are stamped with the initials of today's donors, some of them now occupying the houses and land where the ancient contributors once dwelt. > > hth, Anne > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:20:38 -0400 > > Subject: [SXP] Ambrose GALLARD > > > > Searching "Google books" turned up a reference to my 6x Gt-grandfather > > Ambrose GALLARD of Wivelsfield, Sussex. It's from a Sussex Archaeological > > Society publication which includes a bit of the history of Wivelsfield. One > > section states " The account of the Church Marks beginning at the Buchers > > door and so on eastward 1759" followed by lists of names including Ambrose > > Gallard. > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what "Church Marks" are? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ruth. > > > > Ontario,Canada > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/31/2011 07:11:07
    1. [SXP] Ambrose GALLARD
    2. Jean Wood
    3. I have no idea if this is what is referred to, but it is what came up! Was Ambrose Catholic? I used to teach in a very divided area as far as Christianity was concerned, and I knew 2 St Ambrose schools - both were Roman Catholic. Gallard also is French. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Marks_of_the_Church http://www.catholic-pages.com/church/marks.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose Good luck in your further research. Jean

    03/31/2011 07:10:27