A Thomas Dumbrell married Mary Beard by banns at Horsted Keynes June 8th 1778, botp. Wittnesses Philip Constable and Sarah Dumbrell. Three children baptised there Richard March 14th 1779, John July 20th 1783 and Mary September 13th 1789. Regards Heather Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob & Tania" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: [SXP] Beard / Dumbrell > Trying to track the parents of Mary Beard, born circa 1755 and Thomas > Dumbrell, born circa 1753 in Sussex. They married around 1784 and had at > least one child I believe by the name of John Dumbrell born circa 1784. > Unfortunately dont have any clue as to where in Sussex either family may > have come from. Can anyone help please. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jean If you belong to the NZ Society of Genealogists you can purchase UK Probates after 1858 through them. Also they have a service whereby you can obtain a sterling cheque. The annual sub is well worth it for this (and other services). http://www.genealogy.org.nz/ Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Sanders" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:13 AM Subject: [SXP] 1858 & after wills > thanks to all those folk who offered advice. What a shame they don't take > credit cards. I'm sure it would be a great earner of overseas funds for > UK, if they did. > Thanks again > Jean in New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

thanks to all those folk who offered advice. What a shame they don't take credit cards. I'm sure it would be a great earner of overseas funds for UK, if they did. Thanks again Jean in New Zealand

A great big thank you to everyone who sent me the marriage details of Ambrose and Mary. What a great list! Ruth, Ontario,Canada

Hi My name is Liz Jones and at the end of last year I started a Denman DNA Project. I have been researching the history of the Denman surname since 1999. Through my research I became very interested in the history of the Denman name and its origins, as well as tracing my own Denman line. I know from the censuses that Sussex has had a significant Denman population compared to other counties. The project is doing well, but we could do wit some Sussex Denman representation... A Surname Project traces members of a family that share a common surname. The project is just getting started, and we expect to have many exciting discoveries. Participating is an opportunity to uncover information not provided in the paper records, which will help with your family history research. We will also discover which family trees are related. As the project progresses, the results for the various family trees will provide information about the evolution of the surname. Are all people with the surname Denman related? Where did the name originate? I can’t promise you the answers to these questions but by contributing to the study we will all learn more about the name. The Y DNA test tells you about your direct male line, which would be your father, his father, and back in time. You must be male to take this simple cheek swab test, and you should bear the Denman surname, although if you believe there is a Denman or variant in your direct male line, despite having a different surname, you are also welcome to participate. If you are female, you will need to find a direct line male Denman in your family tree to take the test and represent your tree, such as your father, brother, uncle or cousin.   The Project website is here: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/denman/default.aspx Please don't hesitate to contact me if you require further information. There may even be a free test offered to male Denmans fitting certain criteria! Kind regards Liz Jones

I'm trying to find the marriage of an Ambrose GALLARD to Mary FORD circa 1756. I found a reference to this marriage on the A2A site which states Geoerge FORD gave some land to his daughter Mary on her marriage to Ambrose Gallard of Chailey,carpenter in 1756. Chailey doesn't seem to be covered at all on the IGI and I wondered if anyone on the list had access to Chailey Parish Reisters and could do a check on this marriage for me. Thanks! Ruth, Ontario,Canada

Hello I wonder if someone would kindly tell me how to get a will of July 1877 please? I found it on the Ancestry index but have no idea how to go about getting a copy. I couldn't see a number or any other means of identification on the index but am sure it is the one I want Thanks for your help Jean in New Zealand

Hi Jean Are you looking at the transcribed part of the index or the page image from which the transcript was derived ? The page image of the Probate Calendar gives more than the transcript Let me know and I can check for you Copies of all wills 1858 for England & Wales on can be obtained from http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills.htm (the link is on Ancestry) Scroll down to form PA1S which has all the detail But check the Probate Calendar first as it may be letters of Administration, in other words no will Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello > I wonder if someone would kindly tell me how to get a will of July 1877 please? I found it on the > Ancestry index but have no idea how to go about getting a copy. I couldn't see a number or any > other means of identification on the index but am sure it is the one I want > Thanks for your help > Jean in New Zealand

[email protected] wrote: > Hi Connie > > Actually, whilst coroner's reports are often discarded after 15 years; I > have been successful in finding depositions (witness statements) because they > are usually kept separately. It is a bonus to find newspaper reports too > - but I do not know those around in Brighton in 1956 and where to locate > them. Hallo Glynice Thank you for your reply but it wasn't me who was interested in the inquest details. I am sure the person inquiring will see your reply. I expect the papers would be held in the Local Studies Library or the Record Office Connie in London

AWoodhouse wrote: > Hi Connie: > > The following website has a newspaper for Brighton. When you open this > website click on "South" and it will bring up a list of local newspapers. > http://www.wrx.zen.co.uk/alltnews.htm Hallo Ann Thank you for the link but it wasn't me who was interested in the inquest details. I'm sure the person who was inquiring will see your message. Connie in London

Hello Listers, I'm new to these list(s). I'm researching the family of Henry Morley (b abt 1819 Brighton Sussex - parents unknown) and wife Mary Ann (b abt 1813 Portsea Island Hampshire - parents unknown), who appear in the 1851 census with their two boys: Henry Morley b abt 1844 Portsea Island Augustus Edward b abt 1847 Portsea Island Henry Morley is a Tailor. They are living at 47 Church Street, Brighton, Sussex. ~~~~ By 1861 census Henry (b abt 1819) is living with Ellen (different wife b abt 1819 in Lindfield Sussex) -and son Augustus (going by name Edward). They are living at: 32 Red Cross Street, Brighton (Where they remain to live for at least 45 years) Son Henry b abt 1844 in 1861 is found in: Golden Square, Westminster St James, London, Middlesex, England. Occupation: Tailor. By 1873 he marries Rosetta 'Rose' Dann in Nottinghamshire. On Ancestry, I have found a record index for the WILL for Henry b 1819, who was married to (1st Mary Ann, then) Ellen. I'm looking for info on the following: -Parental/birth info for Henry b abt 1819 who married first Mary Ann, then Ellen. -Parental/birth info for Mary Ann (I've been unable to locate a marriage record so far) -Information about where Augustus Edward went, or who he married. -Where can I buy this WILL indexed at Ancestry, the only info they give is: Name: Henry Morley Probate Date: 17 Nov 1885 Death Date: 22 Oct 1885 Death Place: Sussex, England Registry: Lewes I have descendant info on where/what happened to their son Henry b abt 1844 Portsea, (Who married Rosetta Dann) he is in my direct tree. My tree info is available to look at for free at http://www.tammymitchell.com/family/JRM211215AncestrySept52011.html A Kinship report is also available free at: http://www.tammymitchell.com/family/JRM211215KinshipReportSept52011.htm (there are a few thousand people listed there, use your search/find in browser page to find a surname of interest) There has been a Family Finder FTDNA test done on a person from a Morley (paternal England) & Mitchell (maternal Scotland) line. I won't go on about that here because it's not allowed on the Hampshire list. But I will mention FTDNA kit #211215 and Gedmatch.com #F211215. Matches from FTDNA free to look at here: http://www.tammymitchell.com/family/211215_Family_Finder_Matches_20110817xls.htm I thank you in advance. Please contact me for any reason, regarding research, names questions, info! Tammy Mitchell BC Canada

Hi Connie Actually, whilst coroner's reports are often discarded after 15 years; I have been successful in finding depositions (witness statements) because they are usually kept separately. It is a bonus to find newspaper reports too - but I do not know those around in Brighton in 1956 and where to locate them. Regards Glynice

Hi Connie: The following website has a newspaper for Brighton. When you open this website click on "South" and it will bring up a list of local newspapers. http://www.wrx.zen.co.uk/alltnews.htm Kind regards, Ann Woodhouse, Los Angeles, California Researching LINGHAM

symonds3 wrote: > Hi Connie, > Newspaper reports of his execution show "Thomas ANSELL, a noted Smuggler, > known by the name of Surry Tom", formerly lived at Chertsey, and was carried > from the New Gaol in Southwark to Horsham in Sussex by a party of General > Hawley's dragoons. On the gallows he said that "women and excessive > drinking had brought him to this untimely end", which doesn't sound on the > surface of it to signify he was married with a family. > I don't know if Chertsey was his native place, or just where he was settled > at the time of his trial, but it may be a clue. > There seems to be a report on "the remarkable trial, life and transcations > of Thomas ANSELL (from his birth to his exit)" in a book by Thomas Cole - if > you can track it down it may hold the answers to all your questions - > http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nr91-40743 Hallo Trish Thank you very much for the information. It's very useful. It could answer all my questions, as you suggest, and more besides. Connie in London

[email protected] wrote: > Dear all > > I am new to this list and wondered whether anyone could advise me about > discovering details of the above? Apart from coroners papers, would the local > papers have had a report of Brighton inquests in 1956? Hallo You are more likely to find a newspaper report than a coroner's. Connie in London

Hi Rona Hugh Wallis's site is still working but is not linked with the IGI / familysearch anymore As its hosted by Ancestry / Rootsweb I suspect it will remain available http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/ Use Hughs site to find the batch number , copy it and paste into the new familysearch (there is a batch search capability in the advanced search) Do keep in mind that Hughs site has not been updated since 2002 so any new batches will not show there , particularly the "I" batches (I for indexing) You can still search for all in a given batch or children of parents or for marriages of named couples in the new familysearch Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Hi List. Has the Hugh Wallis site finished? Can anyone tell me please? Rona

Hi Rona it is still running ,,just Google  Hugh Wallis Regards Joan

Hi List. Has the Hugh Wallis site finished? Can anyone tell me please?   Rona                                                       

Dear all I am new to this list and wondered whether anyone could advise me about discovering details of the above? Apart from coroners papers, would the local papers have had a report of Brighton inquests in 1956? Glynice

Hi Connie, Newspaper reports of his execution show "Thomas ANSELL, a noted Smuggler, known by the name of Surry Tom", formerly lived at Chertsey, and was carried from the New Gaol in Southwark to Horsham in Sussex by a party of General Hawley's dragoons. On the gallows he said that "women and excessive drinking had brought him to this untimely end", which doesn't sound on the surface of it to signify he was married with a family. I don't know if Chertsey was his native place, or just where he was settled at the time of his trial, but it may be a clue. There seems to be a report on "the remarkable trial, life and transcations of Thomas ANSELL (from his birth to his exit)" in a book by Thomas Cole - if you can track it down it may hold the answers to all your questions - http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-nr91-40743 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Does anyone have any information or can advise me of a source for > further information about the above Thomas ANSELL, such as parents, > siblings, wife, children. He was executed at Horsham on 9 Aug 1759 > for involvement in the shooting of a dragoon. > Connie in London