Hi Bruce For records for those who served after 1920 they are still with the M.O.D. Details here http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html Basically you need to prove the man has passed away and pay the fee of £30 , it can take a little while to come through the system Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I would like to find out about my grandfathers (Frank Deacon, born 21 May 1901 East Grinstead, >Sussex) military service. I believe he served in India in the late 1920s > > However I don’t know dates or for what regiment, and don’t have a service number. > > My question is how or where do I start? Any advice would be gratefully received. > > Best regards > Bruce

I would like to find out about my grandfathers (Frank Deacon, born 21 May 1901 East Grinstead, Sussex) military service. I believe he served in India in the late 1920s However I don’t know dates or for what regiment, and don’t have a service number. My question is how or where do I start? Any advice would be gratefully received. Best regards Bruce

Some years ago when I had my own web page, man people sent TESTER family trees, at the time there was no connections, however things have change! Unfortunately I only have the hard copies, a computer malfunction remove the actual files. I regret that do not know the identities of these kind people, and wondered if the were still active, and would contact me. Thank you Rex

A very big thank you to Stella Stanger, Heather Brooks & Rosemary Chalmers for their replies. Very useful information which I never thought to look at. You have made a big breakthrough for me and my cousin. I am very grateful to you all for your rapid replies and information contained in them. This List always comes up trump when I ask for help. Kind regards Judy Berntsen

Can anyone please tell me whether the Marriage Certificate of a Widower who is getting married for a 2nd time gives the name of his deceased wife. I am trying to find out who the mother of a child is. All I know is that John Fuller married a Jane Wickham in 1850 and he was a widower at the time. His daughter Ann was supposedly born in 1842 in Brightling but I cannot find a birth registration for her, which makes me wonder if her birth was not registered, as a lot of them went unregistered. Any information kindly accepted. Regards Judy Berntsen New Zealand

Hi Judy, I don't know if this is the family you are looking for - The Sussex OPC has a possible marriage - Where: St Thomas a Beckett, Brighting Date: 25 December 1840 Husband: John FULLER Age: 28 Condition: Not given (bachelor/widower etc) Husband's father: Rose Fuller Wife: Kathura Russell Age: 18 Condition: Not given Wife's father: William Russell FreeBMD has - Marriage between John FULLER and Kathura RUSSELL, Dec qtr 1840, Battle (includes Brightling) 7 409 Death of a Catharine FULLER, Dec 1844, Battle, 7 195 There is no death recorded up to 1930 for Kathura RUSSELL, so the name may be mistranscribed in the records There is a birth for Ann FULLER, Dec qtr 1843, Battle, 7 242 Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Can anyone please tell me whether the Marriage Certificate of a Widower > who > is getting married for a 2nd time gives the name of his deceased wife. I > am trying to find out who the mother of a child is. All I know is that > John > Fuller married a Jane Wickham in 1850 and he was a widower at the time. > His > daughter Ann was supposedly born in 1842 in Brightling but I cannot find a > birth registration for her, which makes me wonder if her birth was not > registered, as a lot of them went unregistered. > > Any information kindly accepted. > > Regards > Judy Berntsen > New Zealand > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Valerie The overseas indexes that are available for free on www.familyrelatives.com are just that , free You do not need to subscribe but do need to register (no CC details are required to do so) The index is only an index no matter where you find it, to view the details of a certificate you would need to buy it just as you would if using such as freebmd Other records on the site are pay per view or subscription I don't know what the original enquiry was as the subject line does not appear in the archives, but is it was for WW1 (which your post suggests) I posted earlier that War death certs are sparse in information More often it records cause of death as died of wounds, died of disease or similar and place of death as France & Flanders or similar The War deaths index does not state where the death occurred, you may have misread the Regiment abbreviation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > "I think www.familyrelatives.com has the Overseas deaths available for > free." > > Thanks for the link to the overseas death. I found that to see the details > you have to subscribe or pay to view. I did find one distant relative where > is said death was at F and F (France and Flanders I think)! > > Valerie

"I think www.familyrelatives.com has the Overseas deaths available for free." Thanks for the link to the overseas death. I found that to see the details you have to subscribe or pay to view. I did find one distant relative where is said death was at F and F (France and Flanders I think)! Valerie

Hi Judy I see you have had a couple of replies to the list and perhaps more offlist? But have not seen any that answers the original question, would a marriage certificate record the name of a previous wife? The simple answer is no For details of what is on a certificate, this may be useful http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Can anyone please tell me whether the Marriage Certificate of a Widower who > is getting married for a 2nd time gives the name of his deceased wife. I > am trying to find out who the mother of a child is. All I know is that John > Fuller married a Jane Wickham in 1850 and he was a widower at the time. His > daughter Ann was supposedly born in 1842 in Brightling but I cannot find a > birth registration for her, which makes me wonder if her birth was not > registered, as a lot of them went unregistered. > > Any information kindly accepted. > > Regards > Judy Berntsen > New Zealand

Judy Berntsen wrote: > Can anyone please tell me whether the Marriage Certificate of a Widower who > is getting married for a 2nd time gives the name of his deceased wife. I > am trying to find out who the mother of a child is. All I know is that John > Fuller married a Jane Wickham in 1850 and he was a widower at the time. His > daughter Ann was supposedly born in 1842 in Brightling but I cannot find a > birth registration for her, which makes me wonder if her birth was not > registered, as a lot of them went unregistered. The first wife's name would not be given. I was given this site which is very helpful for saying what is on certificates. It seems it changes from time to time. http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm Have you tried the local register office? Sometimes they are there but not in the GRO index. Connie in London

Hi, Familysearch has a baptism of a Ann Fuller Brightling 1842 father John mother Katherina Russell and her marriage to a John Jennings 21st Jan 1874 at Brightling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Berntsen" <[email protected]> To: "List Sussex" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:20 AM Subject: [SXP] REMARRIAGE OF A WIDOWER > Can anyone please tell me whether the Marriage Certificate of a Widower > who > is getting married for a 2nd time gives the name of his deceased wife. I > am trying to find out who the mother of a child is. All I know is that > John > Fuller married a Jane Wickham in 1850 and he was a widower at the time. > His > daughter Ann was supposedly born in 1842 in Brightling but I cannot find a > birth registration for her, which makes me wonder if her birth was not > registered, as a lot of them went unregistered. > > Any information kindly accepted. > > Regards > Judy Berntsen > New Zealand > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, thanks for the usual quick responses to questions. I may have to accept that that I entered the wrong date in the GRO request for December instead of March even after ordering certificates many times before. I will take Mary's suggestion and this time ask for Fanny's marriage certificate instead. Unfortunately the spelling Tusler/Tussler changes within the same family and across different census years so it's always challenging as other branches have the same spelling problems adding to the complexity. My end result on this particular query is to confirm which George Tusler was KIA in 1916 in Flanders, my grand Uncle b1885 or my 1st cousin 2x removed b1885. Separate question but can you order WW1 death certificates? Cheers Steve -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 6:05 PM To: Steve Tusler; 'SUSSEX' Subject: Re: [SXP] GRO problem re marriage George TUSSLER Hi Steve You don't say when and where your target George TUSSLER was born so it may not be relevant but in 1911 there is a G TUSLER, 27, a Carman born Horsham Sussex and wife Fanny, 27, born Graffam Sussex, married 6 years They have daughters Dora 6, Annie 5 and son George 2 Living at 36 Trafalgar Road Horsham Worth noting the 1911 is in the hand of the householder or whoever he got to do it for him, ie the spelling is TUSLER Next door at 38 is a Matthew TUSSLER 51 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, in trying to resolve/confirm who were the parents of George TUSSLER I > ordered his marriage certificate as listed in FreeBMD. > > "The response from GRO was: Marriage Certificate: George Tussler 1905 D 2a > 401 Croydon, there is no trace of the above mentioned person at the > reference you quoted. > > I checked the original document and it was ordered from GRO as referenced on > the original document stored by FreeBMD. > > Where do you go next if the reference can't be found by GRO? > > Alternatively does anybody have information related to the marriage of > George Tussler in 1905 possibly to Fanny SAUNDERS? > > Regards > > Steve in Sydney

From The Essex Standard, and Colchester, Chelmsford, Maldon, Harwich, and General County Advertiser ( Colchester, England ), Saturday, March 08, 1834; Issue 166. MARRIAGE. 4th inst. at Horsham, Sussex, by the Rev. Mr. SIMPSON , Mr. Thos. DARBY , of Cheltenham, son of Mr. John DARBY , of Toppesfield, in this county, to Miss Mary POTTER of Horsham.

Hi Steve, we found this link: http://www.greatwar.co.uk/research/military-records/ww1-war-dead-records.htm where it says, Death Certificates The Death Certificates for British war dead are held by the General Register Office. Enquiries can be made to: Certificate Services Section, General Register Office, PO Box 2, Southport, Merseyside PR8 2JD Telephone: 0845 603 7788 Fax: 01704 55 00 13 Email: [email protected] Website: www.directgov.uk Good luck, Simon and Chris Sussex 1861 and 1871 coordinators for FreeCEN http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ssx1861/

Hi, in trying to resolve/confirm who were the parents of George TUSSLER I ordered his marriage certificate as listed in FreeBMD. "The response from GRO was: Marriage Certificate: George Tussler 1905 D 2a 401 Croydon, there is no trace of the above mentioned person at the reference you quoted. I checked the original document and it was ordered from GRO as referenced on the original document stored by FreeBMD. Where do you go next if the reference can't be found by GRO? Alternatively does anybody have information related to the marriage of George Tussler in 1905 possibly to Fanny SAUNDERS? Regards Steve in Sydney

Hi again I suspected your aim might be to find the one who passed away in 1916 UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about George Tusler Name: George Tusler Birth Place: Horsham, Sussex Death Date: 15 Sep 1916 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Horsham Rank: L/Corporal Regiment: Grenadier Guards Battalion: 2nd Battalion Number: 22248 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Yes you can order a death cert in the normal way but you may not learn anything new, most will have died of wounds or similar and place of death as France & Flanders or similar As he was with the Guards whose service records are held separately I would suggest making contact with them and see if they can help Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi All, thanks for the usual quick responses to questions. I may have to > accept that that I entered the wrong date in the GRO request for December > instead of March even after ordering certificates many times before. I will > take Mary's suggestion and this time ask for Fanny's marriage certificate > instead. > Unfortunately the spelling Tusler/Tussler changes within the same family and > across different census years so it's always challenging as other branches > have the same spelling problems adding to the complexity. > > My end result on this particular query is to confirm which George Tusler was > KIA in 1916 in Flanders, my grand Uncle b1885 or my 1st cousin 2x removed > b1885. > > Separate question but can you order WW1 death certificates? > > Cheers > Steve

Steve Tusler wrote: > Separate question but can you order WW1 death certificates? Hallo, Yes, you can order them direct from the GRO. The cost is the same. The reference for them is different from the regular ones. I think www.familyrelatives.com has the Overseas deaths available for free. If not, FindMyPast has them. I'm not sure about Ancestry or TheGenealogist. War Death certificates don't give a lot of information. It's usually only "war injuries" or similar wording. Connie in London

Hi Steve You don't say when and where your target George TUSSLER was born so it may not be relevant but in 1911 there is a G TUSLER, 27, a Carman born Horsham Sussex and wife Fanny, 27, born Graffam Sussex, married 6 years They have daughters Dora 6, Annie 5 and son George 2 Living at 36 Trafalgar Road Horsham Worth noting the 1911 is in the hand of the householder or whoever he got to do it for him, ie the spelling is TUSLER Next door at 38 is a Matthew TUSSLER 51 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, in trying to resolve/confirm who were the parents of George TUSSLER I > ordered his marriage certificate as listed in FreeBMD. > > "The response from GRO was: Marriage Certificate: George Tussler 1905 D 2a > 401 Croydon, there is no trace of the above mentioned person at the > reference you quoted. > > I checked the original document and it was ordered from GRO as referenced on > the original document stored by FreeBMD. > > Where do you go next if the reference can't be found by GRO? > > Alternatively does anybody have information related to the marriage of > George Tussler in 1905 possibly to Fanny SAUNDERS? > > Regards > > Steve in Sydney

Steve I believe that you have quoted the wrong quarter which would explain why they couldn't find it. You say "1905 D 2a 401" - I assume that means the December quarter when the marriage was in the March quarter Regards John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Tusler Sent: 25 October 2011 03:18 To: 'SUSSEX' Subject: [SXP] GRO problem re marriage George TUSSLER Hi, in trying to resolve/confirm who were the parents of George TUSSLER I ordered his marriage certificate as listed in FreeBMD. "The response from GRO was: Marriage Certificate: George Tussler 1905 D 2a 401 Croydon, there is no trace of the above mentioned person at the reference you quoted. I checked the original document and it was ordered from GRO as referenced on the original document stored by FreeBMD. Where do you go next if the reference can't be found by GRO? Alternatively does anybody have information related to the marriage of George Tussler in 1905 possibly to Fanny SAUNDERS? Regards Steve in Sydney ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From Colonist ( New Zealand ), Volume XVIII, Issue 2107, 1 August 1876, Page 2 MRS. JANE HOSKINS . - If this should meet the eye of MRS. JANE HOSKINS , whose maiden name was JANE HUNTER , who left England on the 10th day of November, 1868, by the Matoka, and whose last address was, in the year 1873, Post-office, Westport, in the Province of Nelson, New Zealand, she, her husband, or her husband's friends, are earnestly requested to write to her anxious sister, Mary COOK , whose maiden name was Mary HUNTER. Address - Mrs. COOK , care of Mrs. LEWELL , 19, St Aubyns, Cliftonville, Brighton, England.