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    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-10] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is 10th and LAST of a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. I hope that the list and newsgroup will be fixed soon. I realize I said the last message would come on Saturday. For you Digest recipients and those living in much of the world east of where I live, it may be Sunday. Sorry! Thanks for your patience. You who have been getting the messages are still subscribed. The people who have not gotten the messages because their email addresses have changed are no longer subscribed, or will be unsubscribed over the next few days. I still have work to do. I hope to be back before long with news of the revival of the groups. Thanks again for understanding. Margaret ============================================================= Watch for the return of the newsgroups and mailing lists ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= Margaret Olson list manager

    08/23/2003 10:40:33
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-9] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is ninth of a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. There will be one additional message in about 12 hours and then I'll leave you alone. Thanks for your patience. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= The reason for these newsgroups is to allow posting newsgroup queries about surnames to a single place, keeping them out of the topic-oriented newsgroups. They are set up to get messages to sub-lists applying to specific countries or regions. The global list has all messages, but the others are region-specific. To learn about the formatting requirements for subject lines, see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~surnames/ These requirements may be amended as we bring back the newsgroups. We also plan to have a web form for sending messages, a form which will check the formatting and suggest corrections. Margaret Olson list manager

    08/22/2003 06:50:06
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-8] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is eigth of a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. It is among the first steps in bringing the following mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. Don't expect messages for awhile, and don't try to send messages yet. We will tell you when you can do that. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= Currently these messages are going only to mailing list subscribers because the automoderation routine is not yet in place. Once the mailing lists are again connected to the newsgroups, I will remove the [S-brit] or [S-global] or other list identifiers from the subject lines. I will also remove the informational taglines at the ends of the messages which instruct on how to unsubscribe. I realize that many mailing list readers like to have the list identifier in the subject line as a way to sort messages, but these lists have gateways to Usenet newsgroups, and there are almost certainly many more people reading the messages on the newsgroup side of the gateways than are getting them in the mailing lists, and those people would be confused and misinformed by the ID and instructions, so they will be removed. Not yet, though - they help the list manager more than they help you right now. Margaret Olson list manager

    08/22/2003 05:23:46
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-7] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is seventh in a series of 12 or so messages designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. I'll stop sending them on or before Saturday morning, August 23. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= There were nearly 12,000 addresses subscribed to the 21 different lists. Already more than 1000 addresses have been removed, either automatically by bouncing more than three messages or because subscribers decided they didn't want to be on a list. A lot of you forgot you were even here. Many messages bounced because they are to accounts which no longer exist. After 3 bounces the mailing list software at RootsWeb automatically unsubscribes addresses, so I need to send enough messages for 3 or 4 digests to go out in order to clear out the deadwood. I've gotten a LOT of email since I started this, but better now than later when real messages start to come through. I prefer to tell people who have forgotten about the Usenet newsgroup connection now, rather than fielding questions and complaints later. Usenet is a different world which connects to a lot of people who do not subscribe to mailing lists. Back in the good old days when the lists/newsgroups started we'd get 30 or 40 messages a day - or more - to the busiest lists/newsgroups. I hope that - and more - return. We considered just emptying the subscriber lists and telling people to resubscribe later, but decided against that for assorted reasons (such is how to define "later"). Anyhow, I'll stop on Saturday (or before). It will end - I promise. Margaret Olson list manager

    08/20/2003 05:02:51
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-6] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is sixth of a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. It is among the first steps in bringing the following mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= There are many resources at RootsWeb and elsewhere where you can exchange information and leave queries about the surnames you are researching. CyndisList.com has an exhaustive list. For mailing lists, see lists.rootsweb.com For message boards, see boards.rootsweb.com For the RootsWeb Surname List see rsl.rootsweb.com Also, worldconnect.rootsweb.com and the Ancestral File at familysearch.org and other links you can find at CyndisList have user submitted GEDCOMs which can give you contact names for others researching the same names. Margaret list manager SURNAMES-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/19/2003 07:30:58
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-5] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is one of a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. It is among the first steps in bringing the following mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. Don't expect messages for awhile, and don't try to send messages yet. We will tell you when you can do that. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= SURNAMES-L/soc.genealogy.surnames.global is an "umbrella" list for SURNAMES-BRITAIN SURNAMES-IRELAND SURNAMES-GERMAN SURNAMES-CANADA SURNAMES-USA SURNAMES-MISC Any message posted to one of those mailing lists will also be sent to SURNAMES-L, and messages sent to SURNAMES-L will be sent to any of the above lists which are mentioned in the places field of the subject line of your message. Margaret list manager SURNAMES-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/19/2003 03:52:46
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-4] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is fourth in a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. There will be 4 or 5 more messages in the next 2 or 3 days and infrequent messages thereafter until the automoderator and (probably) web input are in place. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= SURNAMES-* are moderated mailing lists. They are mirrors of the moderated Usenet newsgroups listed above. In order to have a message accepted, the subject line must conform to a set of rules designed to make the subject lines informative and allow the messages to be sent to the correct newsgroup according to the places mentioned in the places field. See http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~socgen/ Margaret list manager SURNAMES-admin@rootsweb.com This message is among the first steps in bringing the mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. Don't try to post messages yet. We will tell you when you can do that.

    08/18/2003 05:18:36
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-3] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is third in a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. It is among the first steps in bringing the following mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. Don't expect messages for awhile, and don't try to send messages yet. We will tell you when you can do that. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= If you want to remain subscribed, you need do nothing except to wait for messages to come in. Please DO NOT try to send messages to the list yet. They won't go anywhere - yet. If you want to unsubscribe, go ahead and do that. You won't miss anything in the short run and will avoid a few [ADMIN] messages. Your email came to you from one of 21 lists. We have -L (individual email), -I (index), and -D (digest) lists for each of the mailing lists. There were/are -M lists formed originally, but these were made equivalent to the -L lists to conform to other RootsWeb list names. Margaret list manager SURNAMES-admin@rootsweb.com

    08/17/2003 08:49:58
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-2] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is second of a series designed to clean up the subscriber list for this list. It is among the first steps in bringing the following mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. Don't expect messages for awhile, and don't try to send messages yet. We will tell you when you can do that. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= We have been saying to people who post messages or who ask about the silence of these lists: >"You will receive no messages until the problem is resolved >and will not be able to post. We apologize for the problem >and hope to have messages flowing at some point. This list >had high traffic in the past, and we'd like to see it >revived soon. > >Email SURNAMES-admin@rootsweb.com if you have questions. >============================================================= > >Once the messages resume, you will need to know about the >formatting requirements for the subject lines of messages. >SURNAMES-L is a moderated mailing list, which means >that every message submitted must be `approved' before it can >be broadcast to mailing list subscribers. There are some >very specific formatting requirements that each message must >pass in order to be approved. A description can be found on >the Web at ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~surnames/introduction.html>. > >============================================================= > >You are already subscribed. You'll know it when the messages >return when you start getting email again. > >Sorry for the inconvenience. > >Margaret Olson >list manager

    08/17/2003 04:12:08
    1. [S-usa] [ADMIN-1] This SURNAMES-*@rootsweb.com mailing list
    2. Margaret Olson
    3. This message is the first step in bringing the following mailing lists and newsgroups back to life. Do not expect it to happen immediately, but before it does, the subscriber address lists need a major cleanup. ============================================================= NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE ============================================================= SURNAMES-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.global) SURNAMES-BRITAIN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.britain) SURNAMES-CANADA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.canada) SURNAMES-GERMAN-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.german) SURNAMES-IRELAND-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland) SURNAMES-USA-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.usa) SURNAMES-MISC-L (soc.genealogy.surnames.misc) ============================================================= The above mailing lists and their associated Usenet newsgroups have had no messages since June 22, 2000. At that time software problems with the automoderator caused RootsWeb to shut down that software. You have received no messages from either the mailing lists or the newsgroups since then. In the past three years many people have remained subscribed to these mailing lists, and many more subscribed email addresses have become invalid for one reason or another. I will be sending out a series of messages over the next 3 or 4 days in an attempt to clear out non-working addresses and to inform you of the status of the lists. Margaret Olson list manager of all 7 connected SURNAMES-* lists

    08/16/2003 07:52:26
    1. WINKELER Shirley; MO,USA; 1960-
    2. Shirley A Scott
    3. WINKELER Shirley; MO,USA; 1960- I have just started a new list for those researching the surname WINKELER (or any spelling variation). To subscribe, go to: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/winkeler More information on my WINKELER line can be found at http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html Thank you! Shirley (Winkeler) Scott E-mail: shirleyscott@juno.com Personal Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/6755 Genealogy Homepage: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html Coordinator Lafayette Co MSGenweb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslafaye Coordinator MS City/Town List: http://www.rootsweb.com/~msctlist/ct-a.htm Listowner: MSLAFAYE-L@rootsweb.com SHAW-L@rootsweb.com whitwell@onelist.com winkeler@onelist.com womantalk@onelist.com missourimoms@onelist.com Contributor to the The Obituary Daily Times: GEN-OBIT@apple.rootsweb.com Rootsweb Sponsor: http://www.rootsweb.com Contributor to the USGenWeb Census Project: http://www.usgenweb.org/census _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] genealogylover@juno.com (Shirley A Scott)

    05/17/1998 02:49:52
    1. THOW; AUS>CAN>USA; 1600-1998
    2. Phillip Thow
    3. THOW; AUS>CAN>USA; 1600-1998 I am attempting to put the Thow family tree together. If anyone has any information on the surname or knows any Thows, please email me at pbthow@intap.net. Thanks, Phillip Thow USA

    05/17/1998 02:03:38
    1. COOK, August; TN,USA; 1800
    2. Annette Roberts
    3. COOK, August; TN,USA; 1800 This is who I'm looking for: COOK, August born in Tennessee probably between 1800 and 1820. He married a woman from Virginia. This is according to daughter's death certificate. This daughter, Mahala Jane Cook, was born 28 Apr 1840 in Indiana. She married Thomas Woodford Davis 23 Dec 1860 in Taney County, MO. The 1860 census of Taney County, Washington Twp, lists a Cook family with the father's name as James, born c1799 in TN and the mother, Mahala born c1818 in Indiana. Along with several other children, a daughter Mahala is listed, born 1840 in Indiana. Is there a connection? Help!! Thanks, Nettie Mae dysfun4@internetni.com http://members.tripod.com/~Nettie_Mae/index.htm

    05/17/1998 02:02:00
    1. KALTEICH / MUELLER; USA; 1869
    2. Friedhelm Kalteich
    3. KALTEICH / MUELLER; USA; 1869 KALTEICH; USA; 1886 Need a census lookup on the 1880 and 1890 Chicago, Illinois. Looking for family of Otto KALTEICH married with Anna Maria MUELLER. Known to be in Chicago in 1886 (practiced medicine). Their sons name was Oscar, born 1886 in Chicago. Thanks, ----- Friedhelm Kalteich, Bruchshecke 5, D-57258 Freudenberg, Germany mailto:Friedhelm.Kalteich@t-online.de

    05/17/1998 01:19:43
    1. VANWOERKOM Gerrit; NLD>USA; 1869
    2. hbragt
    3. VANWOERKOM Gerrit; NLD>USA; 1869 In 1869 Gerrit Arien van Woerkom with his wife Jenneke Bragt and his four children Arien, Hendrik, Pieter and Hendrika Geertruida came from Zuilichem (The Netherlands) to Grandhaven USA. (not New Haven as I first mentioned, sorry about that) About twenty years ago, a vicar named Verduin/Verduyn from the USA visited the Netherlands. During that period he visited the bakery "Bragt" inKerkwijk, (the Netherlands). Mr. Verduin told that his (grand?)mother was named Jenneke Bragt. I am looking for information about Mr. Verduin or his (grand)motherJenneke Bragt to find out if there is any connection with my ancestors. Any help would be appreciated! Henk Bragt, Bruchem, Holland hbragt@tref.nl

    05/17/1998 01:11:04
    1. DULWORTH, David Mitchell; KY,USA> TX,USA; 1858-1935
    2. Dick Floyd
    3. DULWORTH, David Mitchell; KY,USA> TX,USA; 1858-1935 Seeking information on the ancestors or descendents of David Mitchell Dulworth. Early census records indicate he was born in KY or possibly, TN on July 4, 1858 or 1859. He died on Jan 13, 1935. He and his family were living in Monroe County, KY when the 1900 census was taken. By the time of the 1910 census they had moved to Ellis County, TX. I believe his second spouse was Nancy Emiline Gaddis, who he married in about 1891. She was born in TN. He had three children by his first wife and appears to have had 10 more with Nancy. Both David and Nancy Emiline are buried in Edgewood Cemetery, Lancaster, TX. Please respond back through this forum or directly to dickfloyd@sprynet.com

    05/17/1998 12:50:51
    1. FLOYD, John; Wayne County, MO,USA; 1840
    2. Dick Floyd
    3. FLOYD, John; Wayne County, MO,USA; 1840 Seeking information on the ancestors and descendents of the John Floyd included in the 1840 census for Wayne County, MO. I believe that the Sarah Floyd shown in the 1850 Butler County, MO census is his widow. Please respond back through this forum or direct to dickfloyd@sprynet.com

    05/17/1998 12:50:51
    1. MORTON, William; PA,USA> IA,USA; 1817-1887
    2. Dick Floyd
    3. MORTON, William; PA,USA> IA,USA; 1817-1887 Seeking information concerning the ancestors and descendants of William Morton (b 17 Aug 1817, d 15 Dec 1887). His wife was Sarah Morton (?), b 12 Feb 1823, d 27 Mar 1901. The 1900 census for his son shows that his son was born in Iowa in 1848. That census also shows Pennsylvania to be the birth state for William and Ohio to be the birth state for Sarah. His son, William Byron Morton (b 2 May 1848, d 15 Apr 1930) was living in Harrison, AR at the time of the 1900 census. If you have information that might related to this family, please contact me through this forum or at dickfloyd@sprynet.com

    05/17/1998 12:50:45
    1. SPEAR; Noble Co.,OH,USA; 1820-
    2. Sli1031
    3. SPEAR; Noble Co.,OH,USA; 1820- SPEAR Sli1031 <Sli1031@aol.com>

    05/17/1998 12:16:50
    1. HOLMES, Isaac; OH,USA; 1773-1824
    2. Stanley Paden
    3. HOLMES, Isaac; OH,USA; 1773-1824 I am interested in any information on Isaac Holmes and his ancestors. I am also interested in any relatives or descendents. He was born near Adams County, Pennsylvania. His parents were Thomas Holmes and Sarah Means. He married Priscilla Wierman in Berlin, Adams County, Pennsylvania in 1799. They moved to Brooke County, West Virginia for a brief period (I think his parents remained there) and moved on to Steubenville, Ohio. Isaac Holmes was a teacher and he fought under Latta in teh War of 1812. I am descended through his daughter Matilda Holmes (b. 1820 Tuscamawas Co Ohio) who married John Andrew Jones and settled in Iowa (d. 1862) You can send any messages to me at spadjo@panix.com Thank you for reading this message. Sincerely, Stanley Paden

    05/17/1998 11:06:22