PAYNE; ENG; 1850-1950 I am researching all the names in the list below. They are all linked mainly by family documents I have in my own possession dating back to about the 1870s. But it is not always clear what some of the relationships are. Clearly, some of the names are very common in their own countries, so what I am looking for are some positive means of identifying the links between them. If anyone can help, I shall be most grateful. As far as I can tell, there are three separate and independent links between England and Germany. BACKES Saarbrucken, Germany BARKER Kent/North London/Sussex, England BARTOSZEK France/Germany BEHR Germany BOOTH Kent, England BRAHAM South-West London, England CAPEL Aylesbury, England DACEY Surrey, England DAHM Germany DAVIES England DROST Ostfriesland, Germany EGGER Westfalen, Germany FREHSDORF/FRESSDORF Hohenlimburg/Letmathe, Germany FRITH England GEISSLER England/Germany GOULD North-West London, England GREEN England GROLL Germany HALL Hackney/Islington, England KNYCHALLER Germany KUERITZER Germany LALONDE England/Canada LUETH Germany MARMATZKE Germany MICHEL Germany MOORE England NICHOLLS Canterbury, England OETTERSHAGEN Hohenlimburg/Rheinland, Germany PAYNE Harrow, England/Australia PIEPER Germany REITH Germany RISBY Surrey, England RODEMACHER Germany SCHRADER Germany SCHUMACHER Germany SPAIN London, England STEIGER Germany SULBERG Hohenlimburg, Germany TIGGES Germany WOOD England Thank you, Eddie Hall "Eddie Hall" <eddie@halls66.freeserve.co.uk>

SHILTS; anywhere> USA; 1894- I live in Michigan, born 1929, the daughter of Guy Shilts, born 1894 in Aurora, IL. I have amassed a lot of material on this name. Any Shilts' out there? vhart@netonecom.net

THATCHER, Helen; Birmingham, ENG; -1941 I have a photograph of a very distinguished looking lady about 50 years old. On the front it has " Yours sincerely Helen". On the back someone has written " Killed in Air Raid 1941 Birmingham, England". The picture was with all the THATCHER pictures, so I am presuming she is a THATCHER. How might I go about locating the facts of this ladies death? If you should have any information on this lady, I would like to exchange notes. Thank you. Bob Hewitt Hollidaysburg, PA, USA ranhewitt@webtv.net

FINCKENHAGEN Morten; DEU; 1661 Finckenhagen,Morten born in Germany 1661, died in Norway 1731. Can anyone help with further information? This is my eldest trace. Jan Finckenhagen Norway Email : jfincken@c2i.net

HUMPLEBY; CLV,ENG; 1881 HUMPLEBY thomas m. died 1915 TAYLOR Isobella HUMPLEBY John george trying to trace humpleby family, the info I have is very limited. HUMPLEBY thomas was ablacksmith in a village called egglescliffe travelled to hartlepool for work m. TAYLOR isobella who was from witton le wear ,their son HUMPLEBY john george m. into MURRAY family they had 4 children 3 are still alive today. any help gladly recieved have checked some census's for durham area to find info bernie tonyhumps@bun.com

ROSENBAUM / ROSENBALM; VA,USA; 1810-1835 Hello, I am looking for information regarding the time when this name was changed. I think I have tracked it to Washington County, Va. in the early 1800's. Mary (Polly) Fox married Valentine Rosenbaum in 1827. All of their progeny were named Rosenbalm. Rachel Fox married John Rosenbaum in 1819 - all of their children were given the Rosenbalm surname. Can anyone tell me if these were two sisters marrying brothers? Also, what might have been going on in the County culture at the time to cause the name change? Thanks for your time. Janice (Rosenbalm) Smith "Janice Smith" <bce@earthling.net>

POLAND / POLING; ENG>USA; 1600 Iam need any information on these two surnames. The surnames are suppose to have orginated in gravesend england. Thanks craig emerson poling cemersonp@webtv.net (Craig Poling)

PROUT, Tamzin; CON,ENG; 1803-1835 Available information: Tamzin PROUT, born November 17, 1803, Tintagel/Camelford, Cornwall, England. IGI lists Lorenzo L. Hatch as "Relative". Tamzin married Richard SMALE from Stonehenge area. Both left England for Canada, 1834-1835 and settled at the Talbot Settlement in St. Thomas, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada. Son John Yellan SMALE/SMALL born 1836. Richard SMALE remarried in 1840. Searching for following information: 1. Names of parents of Tamzin PROUT. 2. Marriage date of Tamzin PROUT to Richard SMALE. 3. Relation of Lorenzo L. HATCH to Tamzin PROUT. 4. Date of death of Tamzin PROUT. 5. Burial location of Tamzin PROUT. Any assistance is most appreciated. Dave Bear DBear57620@aol.com

HOLMAN / ROBINSON / WALKER; CO,USA; 1880- Subject: HOLMAN/ROBINSON/WALKER; CO,USA; 1880- I would like to contact the descendants of WILLIAM and BESSIE HOLMAN who emigrated to Salida and Chaffe County area of Colorado in 1885. Having initially arrived in california. WILLIAM was a boilermaker who worked in Dever, Durango and Salida. William (died 1911) and Bessie (died 1923), were both buried in Fairview Cementary, Salida. Their children were FRANK, WILLIAM HENRY(HARRY) and AMY. FRANK had a son called FRANK and other children. We believe AMY married a GEORGE ROBINSON ; they had 5 children; HOLMAN, FRANK, ROGER, HENRY & ELSIE. HOLMAN ROBINSON , who married Lola Smith, died in 1963, their children were HOLLY, BRADLEY and GEORGE - all born in Colorado,Utah and Montana respectively. I think that Lola was born in Indian and had a sister Leonora who married NOEL WALKER, they had two children, according to 1920 census, ROBERT and RICHARD. HARRY was , in 1911, Manager of the Pioneer Boiler Works in Grand Junction. We think he married Hattie and possibly had a child Fanny Further information suggests that they lived at 209 dodge Street, Salida for 16 years. They may have had another son ?Lurton? Holman who was a game warden for many years in the area - I increasingly think that this link is unlikely. I would dearly like to get in touch with any decendants. Cheers, -- Peter G Byford <pgb@bcs.org.uk>

HITCH Thomas / BLACKHAM Anne; Sedgley,STS,ENG; 1700-1780 HITCH Thomas/BLACKHAM Anne;Sedgley,STS,ENG;1700-1780 I am trying to establish Thomas Hitch's parents and where they came from. Thomas was born about 1749 in Wombourne, ENG. He married Anne Blackham in 1774 at Sedgley, Stafford, ENG. Any ideas, leads or help gratefully received. Norman Hitch (Thomas' 4th Great Grandson) norman_hitch@lineone.net "Norman Hitch" <norman.hitch@bbc.co.uk>

PURCHASE,Edith,John; NF,CAN; 1860-1910 Searching for information on my grandmother, Edith/Edythe Purchase/Purches b. Oct. 25, 1893 in Fortune Bay area of Newfoundland, Canada. Her father John Purchase m. Debra Mosher also of Newfoundland. Any information is appreciated, please email me if you know anything, at candaceturner@home.com Thankyou Candace

ANDERSON, Carl; FIN > USA; b.1872 I am looking for any information Carl Anderson (Rauma) and his family. He born 27.9.1872 in Kaustinen, Finland. Please respond to me by Email at hkultala@utanet.fi Thanks Hannele

POTTER F. / SMITH / YEAW; RI,USA; 1872 I am looking for a F. POTTER that lived at 142 Gardner St., Pawtucket, RI and married a Almy b.1872, Etta , or Phoebe SMITH. d/o Sessions SMITH & Mary Ann YEAW. The obit for Mary Ann YEAW says that she died 3/6/1872 at the home of her daughter Mrs. F. POTTER in Pawtucket, RI. I only have three daughters listed for her Almy, Etta, and Phoebe JOYCE (RI) SCRITTERS@cs.com

DUNN Kate / BOUSTIERE Francis Joseph; Edinburgh, SCT; 1847- Kate DUNN, born abt 1847, married in Edinburgh, Scotland 1875 to Francis Joseph BOUSTIERE Father: Michael DUNN, Silk Merchant, Auctioneer born abt 1823 died: 1882 in Edinburgh Mother: Mary COTTER, married 1836 in Exeter, Devon Kate possibly had a child and both child & mother possibly deceased by 1889. Other than the marriage in Edinburgh, there does not seem to be any record of birth or death of Kate or her child. Can anybody provide any further assistance with detail of Kate DUNN ? Alan Elliott "Alan Elliott" <arelliott@ozemail.com.au>

RIVERS Salome; WI,USA > NY,USA; 1850-1860 We are looking for information on Salome (Saloma?) Rivers married to Anthony Raymond (1) and Louis Gunnville(2) with a daughter, Julia, by Anthony R. Salome and Anthony lived in Stevens Point, Wisconsin in 1850-1865 whenAnthony died. We can't trace her back to her New York State (we think) roots. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Stan White "T. Stanley White" <stanwhite@ieee.org>

WISNER; Pa,USA>OH,USA>IN,USA; 1810-1846 Looking for info on Aaron WISNER, born 30 Sep 1810 in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania and died after 1810 in Wells County, Indiana. His father was William A. Wisner. Aaron married Sarah; born about 1810 in Pennsylvania and died 7 Sep 1870 in Wells County, Indiana. They were married before 1834 and probally in Pennsylvania. By 1850, Aaron and Sarah had four (4) children: John born about 1834 in Pennsylvania Samuel born about 1836 in Ohio Harriet born on 7 Jan 1839 in Ohio Aaron born about 1846 in Indiana Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Steve Niblick 117 South Vine Street Crawfordsville, Indiana 47933 "Steve Niblick" <cdcdir@pwrtc.com>

GALLAGHER; Gorteen, Rossinver, SLI,IRL; 1880-1910 The format police have kicked this message out twice this morning. I'm hoping to get it posted before I become an ancestor. I hope this is worth all of this trouble. This is my first time using a news group. I have been trying to track down my great grandfather for many years. We have caught a break recently and want to know if anyone has any connections for me. Francis or Frank GALLAGHER was married to Bridget HARKIN. They had at least two boys, Denis or Dennis J. on Feb. 3, 1867 and Francis on April 12, 1869. Both boys' birth records have been located and were born in the area noted in the subject. Later Francis Sr. was married to Margaret McKENNA. They had John Lawrence (my grandfather) c. 1888 and Martin c. 1891. Francis Sr. is listed as a widower in the 1901 Census in that townland. Francis Sr. was alive in 1908 when John listed him as his relative on a ship manifest. There are other children and we don't know who their mothers are. They are Mary, Patrick and Bridget. We know that Dennis J. John Lawrence and Mary all came to the US. In a 1938 obit for Dennis Patrick is listed as living in Scotland and Bridget in Ireland. We have recently located them geographically in the above townland. There are two townlands named Gorteen/Gurteen in Sligo. This one is in the north along the Ballintrilick River. It is the northern most townland in Rossinver Parish. The north side of the river is Ahamlish Parish and they are about two miles south of Cliffoney. Please E-mail me with any information. Jim GALLAGHER JIMG20@EARTHLINK.NET

Re: MCCLOUD Slathiel, Leota; IRL > Lohrville IA,USA; 1820-1920 Try the following site for land grants. It is owned by the US government's Bureau of Land Management. Iowa is one of the states listed. http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Good luck JIM Tim McCloud wrote: > MCCLOUD Slathiel, Leota; IRL > Lohrville IA,USA; 1820-1920 > > &@#^%@#*!! Compuserve... This is the correct posting, and the correct > subject name... > > I am searching for information on descendants and ancestors of Slathiel > McCloud and Leota McCloud. I am a direct descendant through Slathiel's > son Jesse McCloud son Joe McCloud. I am looking for information about > other descendants of Slathiel, his siblings, and particularly any about > his parents, whom our oral history says he was born in Ireland, and also > says he migrated out of Ireland during the great potato famine. Oral > history states he had 7 other siblings, most of which are unknown to me. > I am looking for the birthdate of Slathiel, and any information about his > wife Leota including birth, death dates and maiden name. Slathiel died in > 1918 in Lohrville Iowa, where some of his descendants (my uncle Richard > McCloud) still live to this day. > > Other oral history that I am trying to confirm about Slathiel is that he > served in the US Civil War, was deeded 80 acres of land in Iowa as a > direct result of his participation in that war, that he may have ridden in > the pony express and that he wildcated for oil in Texas at one time. > > TimMcCloud@Bigfoot.com > > Tim McCloud <tim.mccloud@rcmt.com> Jim Gallagher <jimg20@earthlink.net>

DOLAN Ellen; CAN; 1903- Is anyone in Canada searching for origins of Ellen Harris (born 1892 in Rotherhithe, London, England) who came to Canada in 1903, following the deaths of her parents John and Amy Harris, and resided in Dunnville and Hamilton before moving to Welland in 1937? She was married to Jesse Dolan, who predeceased her, and died in c1980. "Peter Crabb" <peter@pwcrabb.freeserve.co.uk>

LUCKIE; SCT>AUS; c. 1842 Hi Fellow Genealogists, I am chasing confirmation of my direct descendants arrival in Australia. Unsubstantiated information I have is that George LUCKIE and his wife Margaret LUCKIE (Nee PATERSON) arrived in Botany Bay, Sydney, Australia with their family on either 24th or 28th Jan 1842 on the ship, the "Margaret". I believe that they emigrated from Angus or Dundee, Scotland. I would also appreciate any personal information such as details of the family that accompanied them on their journey. Thanking you in advance. Mark Luckie. Researching: (All in Australia Only); Luckie, Greenhalgh, Marchant, Hatton, Morrison, MacKellar (McKellar). mluckie@ozemail.com.au (Kukla Micer)