In a message dated 99-02-06 01:11:55 EST, you write: << Thanks Melvin. Gosh, I get one group of "newbies" trained, and then along comes another new group. And NONE of them EVER read the Welcome Message, which contains instructions for unsubscribing and everything else that is of importance to the List. >> Dear Mr. SgtGeorge I am posting this to the list because I feel that if you as a listowner should be setting the example to all of us. To publish the above was totally uncalled for. You state in your bylaws for this list that there is to be NO flames. The above is taken as such and for that reason there are a lot of us NEWBIES that also take it as such. It is these types of comments by you as the listowner {who is suppose to be setting the exsample} keeps a lot of us from even posting. You state that only GENEOLOGICAL topics are to be posted. Unless you are refering to us NEWBIES as animals that have to be trained and you are researching animals then guess it is ok. Again YOUR bylaws have been violated by yourself. You state that there is to be no SPAM on your list. Well, the above comments and I guess a good laugh by you and your close inner circle is just that. Unwanted junk main that expresses your feelings as to the Newbies, or should I say untrained animals. When Melvin made his post he was trying to be helpfull and I am sure that some on this list did find it that way. To you Melvin THANKS and keep up the help that you offer. But SgtGeorge, your comments was totally uncalled for and I do expect to see you say I am sorry for them. I am speaking for myself and myself only in this and do not want to start a flame war with any others. It is just that after awhile I get some what tired of hearing the putdowns by you and a couple of others on this list. You as a LISTOWNER should set the standards on your list and then maintain them YOURSELF. For with out doing this, how in the heck do you think us newbies are going to act. If you wish to take me off of your list and or any others that you run then that is fine with me. I do not wish to leave but then you as the Listowner have that power. Though I stay in the shadows most of the time I did have to come out on this one. To anyone that I have offended I am SORRY for it was not my intention Ed IBSSG {not a trained animal} Proud Donor of Rootsweb May today be better than yesterday and tomorrow better than today.