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    1. Is there a Price family book for Price's from AL or GA?
    2. Amy Brown
    3. Can anyone answer this question?

    03/14/1998 01:27:42
    1. CHRISTIAN, Earl N. -- CHRISTIAN anywhere, particularly Washington State
    2. Elaine T. Maddox
    3. Just found out I have a new name in my family. This has been a good morning. > I spent some time at Seattle Public Library today and I have some of > what you are looking for, I think. > > I verified the deaths in the Washington State Death Index. > > Theresa Slepica died 03 Dec 1951 at the age of 64, in Seattle, and has > death certificate #21555 for King County, 1951. > > William Slepica died in Snohomish County (code = 731) on 24 Sep 1967 > and there was no age placed on his death certificate. However, it is > #21157. > > I checked the Seattle Times for relevant obituary and vital notice > material: > > The Seattle Times for Wednesday, December 5, 1951, page 45, cols 2 and > 3, has the following obituary notice: > > "SLEPICA -- Theresa, 2657 W 87th, aged 64 years, beloved wife of > William; mother of Mrs Earl N Christian, Seattle; one grandchild and one > great-[grand] child. Member of United Garment Workers Union, AF of L, > No 17. Services Thursday, 3 pm. Mittelstadt Mortuary. Interment, > Evergreen." > > On Friday, December 7, 1951, on page 44, column 4, the vital statistics > for deaths included "SLEPICA, Theresa -- 64, 2657 W 87th St., Dec 3" > > > The Seattle Times for Wednesday, September 27, 1967, page 16, col 6, > states: > > "SLEPICA -- William, age 81, of 8207 234th SW Edmonds, Sept 24. Father > of Mrs. Alene R Christian, Marysville. Brother of Edward, Walter, > George, Joseph, Fred, Miss Anna and Maude Slepica, all of Minneapolis, > Minn. One grandchild, 3 greatgrandchildren. Funeral services were held > Tuesday. Mittelstadt. Ballard Chapel. Burial Evergreen." > > Polk's Directories for Seattle show that in 1951 William was employed as > a carpenter and his son-in-law, Earl N Christian (Arlene R) was a > planner and estimator for the US Naval Air Station. In the 1953 > directory, Theresa's name is no longer in the entry but William is still > at the same house in Ballard. He now is listed as "fishing tackle > manufacturer" and the business as at the home address. In this '53 > directory, Earl N Christian is now "employed by the US 13th Naval > District." > > In 1954, Wm C Slepica is at the same home, but no occupation is given. > The daughter and son-in-law are not in the Seattle directory. William > stays there with no change in his entry through the 1957 edition and > then in the 1958 volume, he is no longer listed in Seattle. > > Going on the reference in the obituary for William in the fall of 1967, > I found E N Christian living on a star route in Marysville in the 1968 > Everett Polk's Directory, but he is not there in either 1967 or in 1969. > > The GTE telephone directory for August 1968 shows Earl N Christian at > Hermosa Beach, OL 9-6006. The 1970 issue has him at Hermosa Beach > (Msvl), 659-6006, and in 1974, the address is 4303 76th Pl NW, > Marysville, 659-6006, but they are gone by 1975. > > I found them again in 1976 as listed in Darrington, with the phone > changed to 436-1038, and the next year they are at 1100 Price, > Darrington at that same number. However, from 1978 on into the 1980's I > don't find them in the Snohomish directories that I looked at. > > >

    03/14/1998 12:51:55
    1. WILLIAM LEE JEFFRIES/JEFFERIES
    2. CAROL JEFFRIES
    3. Hi Everyone, I have hit a solid brick wall with my searching for information on William and where he was born and who his parents were . From the death certificate I have his birth date as Oct.08,1860 in Missouri and parents unknown. He married Mary Catherine Russell from Ar. year unknown and had six children Blanch 8 May 1892 ? Lena Jan 1900 Ok. Arval 13 Jan 1903 Or. Arnold 1905 Or. Russell 31 July 1910 Wa. James (Jack) 15 Jan 1913 Wa (husbands father) Do any of you have information on these JEFFERIES/JEFFRIES I have ran out of ideals where to look. Thank you in advance for any help and your time to reply to this. Carol in Montana

    03/14/1998 12:32:14
    1. Re: Demonstration of ProGen Program (GEDCOM to HTML) for Web Pages
    2. Alvis M. Smith
    3. George W. Durman wrote: > converting GEDCOM > files to HTML and placing on Web Sites. > > I have just Registered, Downloaded, and Installed a program called > "ProGenitor2". It takes GEDCOM files, converts them to HTML for > uploading to a Web Site, and then makes those files available for users > to view, search, copy, download, etc. > > ProGenitor is absolutely the best one I have found. This email is not > meant to be a "plug" for this program, it is meant to show you users what > can be done with your own GEDCOM file, created from your computer > genealogy program. > > On my web page, BROYLES/BRILES Family History, involved is FILLERS, and it is connected to the BROYLES surname. > > SgtGeorge > Stretching the Boundaries of Genealogy Research > >Sgt George...The search and jump buttons did not come up in the lower left as you stated. Did I do something wrong.........AL

    03/14/1998 10:43:39
    1. Re: [ROLL-CALL-L] SURNAMES, GRECO, CASTELLANO,DE SCALA, DE SANDO
    2. Mike
    3. Hi Penny, My GRECO's are from Italy. Naples, and the boot area. then took up residence in New York and New Jersey. We just found out this past year that we have family from Sweden...so...where do yours live now? thanks, mike -----Original Message----- From: Penny Gudgel <pennyg@eskimo.com> To: Mike <sparrow@berkshire.net> Date: Saturday, March 14, 1998 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [ROLL-CALL-L] SURNAMES, GRECO, CASTELLANO,DE SCALA, DE SANDO >Hi, where is your Greco coming from? I have many Grecko in our tree. >Came to US in 1882. ....from SWEDEN!! >-Penny > >On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Mike wrote: > >> ANTHONY GRECO: b. 1905 >> 1914- arrived at Ellis Island >> >> ANIELO DE SCALA >> 1903 or 1904 - arrived at Ellis Island >> >> CAROLINE CASTELLANO-b.1886? >> 1906? -arrived at Ellis Island as a mail order bride.(age 16) >> >> anybody know any of these folks? >> >> >> >> >> ==== ROLL-CALL Mailing List ==== >> If you want to UNSUBSCRIBE from LIST mode. >> address to ROLL-CALL-L-request@rootsweb.com >> UNSUBSCRIBE in message body. >> ****************************************** >> >> > >

    03/14/1998 10:10:03
    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. Dale Braithwaite
    3. UNSUBSCRIBE

    03/14/1998 10:05:28
    1. Re: ENOUGH ABOUT OLD COMPUTERS!
    2. PJShane299
    3. Ron, I do agee with your views. And I do agree. But your note about old computers reminded me that I should thank you for having the list..... And a hugh thank you for all the things I have learned just reading the queries each day. And a Gigantic thank you because three days ago because of your list I found cousins I thought were gone forever, not knowing where to go, and suddenly because I ask about an ancestor........here they are. And I owe it all to you. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Phyllis PJShane299@aol.com

    03/14/1998 10:02:53
    1. Re: Apology
    2. Mike
    3. thanks for your encouragement. and keep up the good work. mike -----Original Message----- From: stauffer3@juno.com <stauffer3@juno.com> To: sparrow@berkshire.net <sparrow@berkshire.net>; dbrown27@sprynet.com <dbrown27@sprynet.com> Date: Saturday, March 14, 1998 11:47 AM Subject: Apology >There is absolutely no need for anyone to apologize when you are trying >to help better the quality of life for someone. Keep up the good work. > >Robert J. Stauffer >Birch Tree Food Pantry (B.T.F.P.) is a non-profit Emergency & >Supplemental Food Program serving the elderly and needy families of >Shannon County MO. > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >

    03/14/1998 09:48:06
    1. ORPHANAGES
    2. James Chappell
    3. I apologize in advance for any in convience this may cause. On Thursday 3/12/98 I sent this message: I am trying to get a list of ORPHANAGES or CHILDRENS HOMES in PHILADELPHIA. The one I am looking for is or was called SUSQUEHANNA VALLEY HOME. I don't know what town it is or was in. This particular one had burned in 1942. My email address is rogerfax@gte.net HOPE YOU CAN HELP THANK YOU DEBORAH My BETTER HALF caused them to get deleted before I could read them. Would you resend them. THANK YOU DEBORAH

    03/14/1998 07:51:05
    1. Re: old 386 computer
    2. Mike
    3. thanks for writing and the encouragement. mike -----Original Message----- From: Georgia Combe <gma@ida.net> To: dbrown27@sprynet.com <dbrown27@sprynet.com> Cc: SURNAME-QUERY-L@rootsweb.com <SURNAME-QUERY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 14, 1998 1:04 AM Subject: Re: old 386 computer > > >Diane Brown wrote: > >> I have an old 386 just gatherin dust.Re: Laptops? >> > Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 1:44 PM >> > >> > http://www.jewishinterest.com >> > >> >Hi, > >My son updates and repairs and sells new systems. If a computer is not a >proprietary system it can be fully upgraded. A proprietary system is a company >computer such as Compact, Packard Bell or Ast. They are made with differences >of mother board and other things so that standard parts do not fit them. Since >models are changed every year the parts from one year do not readily fit the >past year. These systems can have more memory added or a modem ,but an upgrade >means buying a new main board for almost the cost of a new computer.If the >system is customized or non-proprietary then everything is standard and can be >changed. my computer has been upgraded 3 times. From 286 to pentium 75. From 8 >ram to 32 ect.This has cost less than one bargain new computer. I can still >upgrade to a 200 mhz pentium with only changing my main board for under $200.00 > >Old computers given to him for disposing are given to older people also with >90 days free lessons on how to operate a computer. A second place is they are >given to schools or families of low income. Happy to learn other persons feel >the same way > >> > >> > ==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >> > Reminder! Please remove as much of the Original Message as possible when >> > replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original >> message >> > important to your reply. >> > >> >> ==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from SURNAME-QUERY, send an e-mail message to: >> SURNAME-QUERY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) >> SURNAME-QUERY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) >> Subject: unsubscribe >> In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >> (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > > >==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >Please do not send attachments / attached files to the list. >If you need assistance, contact the listowner at: ><skyhawk@digisys.net> Thank you! > > > >

    03/14/1998 02:21:26
    1. Re: ENOUGH ABOUT OLD COMPUTERS!
    2. Mike
    3. please accept my apology. this thread started as a simple statement about laptops. and escalated to donating them to the cancer ward for the kids to play games and write to penpals. it just may be a way to keep depression from setting in. which is a killer of the will to live. the accidental thread is working. a couple have been donated already. i will try to stop the thread. again , i am sorry for the problem. mike -----Original Message----- From: Ron <skyhawk@digisys.net> To: SURNAME-QUERY-L@rootsweb.com <SURNAME-QUERY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 14, 1998 2:50 AM Subject: Re: ENOUGH ABOUT OLD COMPUTERS! >Dave Masonhall wrote: >> >> Just curious, is this a format for surname queries or is it a site >> for donation, purchase and repair facilities for old 386 computers? >> Thinking out loud that another place might be a better location for >> this type of activity. Thank you in advance for not posting another >> 386 "query." > >Just curious, didn't I ask folks to PLEASE contact me with complaints >via email and to let me handle them? > >Just because I do not usually handle these things on the list publicly, >does not mean they are not being handled. > >I expect this will be the last comment on this matter posted to the >list. > >Thanks, > >Ron Lahti >Surname-Query Listowner > > >==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >Reminder! Please remove as much of the Original Message as possible when >replying to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message >important to your reply. > > > >

    03/14/1998 01:54:19
    1. HESTER, NY, 1830ish to
    2. ShMaynard
    3. Samuel P. Hester, born Aug. 1834 in NY married Martha P. FRANCISCO, born 5 July, Chenoga Co., NY and died 24 Dec 1907 in Dutchess Co., NY They had children: Sarah E. Hester Catherine Lucretia Hester who married an unknown FRAZIER. Child, Addie. Martha A. Hester Mortimer Ol Hester married Ida KIPP. 2 child: Edith and Hazel. James K. Hester married Vesta ? Child, Lotta Samuel P. Hester. Alice B. Hester married William HOLSAPPLE. Child, Milton Holsapple I have only Catherine Lucretia's descendancy through grandddaughter Cathy who married unknown KREMPER. Any information on the other Hesters, et al? ShMayanrd@aol.com

    03/14/1998 01:04:20
    1. Demonstration of ProGen Program (GEDCOM to HTML) for Web Pages
    2. George W. Durman
    3. To start off, I must apologize for burdening some of you with what will be seen as superfluous trivia; however, in this day and age of posting genealogy data to web sites, I feel that it is important for you to know just what is available in the way of converting GEDCOM files to HTML and placing on Web Sites. I have just Registered, Downloaded, and Installed a program called "ProGenitor2". It takes GEDCOM files, converts them to HTML for uploading to a Web Site, and then makes those files available for users to view, search, copy, download, etc. I have been involved in doing this "genealogy thing" for over 12 years, starting back when the "Net" and "Web" weren't even figments of any- ones imagination. I've had my own web site for almost 2 years now. I have, over the past 2 years, used several programs to convert GEDCOM files to HTML, to upload to the site and allow users to easily find data on specific surnames/families. ProGenitor is absolutely the best one I have found. This email is not meant to be a "plug" for this program, it is meant to show you users what can be done with your own GEDCOM file, created from your computer genealogy program. On my web page, BROYLES/BRILES Family History, I already had several databases available, using a program called GED2HTML. It is a very nice program, but once you see what ProGenitor can do, I believe you will like it better. To test this new program, I chose a relatively small GEDCOM file that a correspondent had sent me. It contains only 945 names, and thus was one that would take up relatively little space on my ISP. The surname that is involved is FILLERS, and it is connected to the BROYLES surname. In Greene and Washington Counties in Tennessee, the name FILLERS/ FELLERS/G'FELLERS is one that is interwoven throughout Tennessee's history with the BROYLES/BRILES and WILHOIT/WILHITE families. Thus, I thought it a good one to experiment with. (I must warn you that there is one problem with this particular GEDCOM -- the BROYLES ancestors are not linked back to the immigrant Johannes BREYHEL (John BROYLES). It is a FILLERS history and the researcher didn't follow through with the BROYLES history.) I would like for any of you to visit this site: http://www.concentric.net/~sgtgeorg/fillers1/index.html Please navigate around and see how you like this format for putting databases on the web. When the home page pops up, I would sug- gest that you click on "Help" to see what you can do. Once you have read the help file, go back and click on "Search". You will get a page where every Surname in the database is listed. You can either scroll down the list until you find a Surname that you would like to investigate, or simply type in the surname in the avail- able search box and click "Search". Let's say you want to look for the BROYLES surname. Scroll down the page to BROYLES, click on the BROYLES name, go to the button bar at the top, Click on "Views", then "Display Records". This will give you a list of EVERY BROYLES name in the database. To give you a demonstration, after the "Display Records" screen has loaded, under "BROYLES, Addie", you will see "BROYLES, Lewis Melvin". Click on his name and you will get a complete family history for him and his wife. If you want ancestral charts or descendant charts, instead of clicking on "Display Records", click on "Ancestor" or "Descendants". To print out an ancestral chart or descendant chart, click on "Print" and FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS !!!!! It may seem complicated at first, but I assure you that you will be surprised and delighted at the results. Now that I have led you through this morass, let me get to the REAL intent of this email. "IF" you have a database of a "Germanna" family, and IF you would like to have your database on the "Web", you can send me a GEDCOM of your database and I will use ProGenitor to convert it to HTML and post it to my web site. There is no charge and I'm making this offer in order to get as much data as possible of the Germanna families on the Web. Just remember, for every 200 names in your database, it costs me about 500 Kb (.5 Mb) of server space. So, if your database contains 2000 names, it will take 5 Mb of space. I would appreciate it if you would use the capabilities of your genealogy database program and make a GEDCOM of ONLY those names, trees, branches, lines, etc., that pertain to actual Germanna descendants. That is, don't include ances- tors of spouses if they are not Germanna descendants. When you send the GEDCOM, give me your name, email address, and (if you have one) the URL for your Web Site. I will not disseminate the data in the GEDCOM files to anyone else. They will reside on my server, only for the use of Germanna researchers, and may not be copied, compiled, nor re-trans- mitted for use by profit-making enterprises. I will copywrite the pages so that anyone wishing to use the data is warned "upfront" that it is not "public domain" material. Sorry for this overly-long email, but I just couldn't make it any smaller. For those of you who have sent me GEDCOM files in the past, I am now ready to convert them into HTML and post to the web site. Sorry it has taken so long. (Some GEDCOM files that I have received were not exported in the proper format and I can't use them. Also, some files were included as text in the body of the emails you used to send them -- these files will have to be re-submitted if I am going to be able to convert them and upload to the server.) Just remember, if you send me a GEDCOM file, DO NOT send it as part of the text body of an email. You MUST send it as a separate attachment!!!!! And, it must be exported from your genealogy program as a GEDCOM file, not as some other aberration of a file such as FTM produces. Oh, one thing I forgot to say was that one of the reasons I am so excited over this program is that I produces files that take up much, much less space on the server that do the other programs I have used. SgtGeorge Stretching the Boundaries of Genealogy Research

    03/14/1998 12:51:57
    1. Re: ENOUGH ABOUT OLD COMPUTERS!
    2. Ron
    3. Dave Masonhall wrote: > > Just curious, is this a format for surname queries or is it a site > for donation, purchase and repair facilities for old 386 computers? > Thinking out loud that another place might be a better location for > this type of activity. Thank you in advance for not posting another > 386 "query." Just curious, didn't I ask folks to PLEASE contact me with complaints via email and to let me handle them? Just because I do not usually handle these things on the list publicly, does not mean they are not being handled. I expect this will be the last comment on this matter posted to the list. Thanks, Ron Lahti Surname-Query Listowner

    03/14/1998 12:45:28
    1. ENOUGH ABOUT OLD COMPUTERS!
    2. Dave Masonhall
    3. Just curious, is this a format for surname queries or is it a site for donation, purchase and repair facilities for old 386 computers? Thinking out loud that another place might be a better location for this type of activity. Thank you in advance for not posting another 386 "query."

    03/14/1998 12:09:55
    1. New Mailing List NEELEY/NEELY/NEALY
    2. Pauline Phelps
    3. This list will cover the NEELEY/NEELY/NEALY's of <>IN<>NC<>TN<>OK<>MS<>TX & CA we are not connected to the Neeley's of SC & Neely's Bend TN. ============================================= OK, good news: my mailing list is ready to roll. Briefly (very), people can subscribe to our list in mail mode by sending a message to NEELEY-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If they prefer digest mode, they should send the command instead to NEELEY-D-request@rootsweb.com. To unsubscribe, they should send the command "unsubscribe" to NEELEY-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or NEELEY-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) To switch from one mode to the other, they should unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. There is no "no mail" mode -- if they want messages to stop, they should simply unsubscribe. (Suggestion: use these commands to subscribe to NEELEY-L, as no one at all is currently subscribed, and then send a test message through. Take your list for a test drive, in other words.) To post to both NEELEY-L and NEELEY-D, messages should be sent to NEELEY-L@rootsweb.com. Messages sent there will appear both places. -- ************************************************************* Pauline [Neeley] Phelps 2201 Faye Lane Bakersfield CA 93304 <><>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>><<<>><><>>><<<<<<<<><>>><<<<<<< List owner of NEELEY-L mailing list. Surnames; Drury, Neeley, Neely, Nealy,[Nely-Neley] Nicholson, Vann, Bible, White, Pryor,Powell,Ussery, Critchfields,Carter,Dalbey,Tucker, Kemper, <><>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>><<<<><>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>> Online Data base. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/5716/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/paulinep/ Ussery Web Site. http://www.netunlimited.net/~ccasey/nameindx.htm *************************************************************** "Happiness is like a Butterfly." The more you chase it, the more it will elude you But if you turn your attention to other things, it comes softly & sits on your shoulder........ {A Nice GUY} ***********************************************************

    03/14/1998 12:01:47
    1. BISHOP Leo, abt 1920 SC
    2. Amy Brown
    3. He married an Emily Elizabeth. They had Stella Irene, Carolyn, Kenny, and maybe more. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    03/13/1998 07:30:56
    1. SURNAMES, GRECO, CASTELLANO,DE SCALA, DE SANDO
    2. Mike
    3. ANTHONY GRECO: b. 1905 1914- arrived at Ellis Island ANIELO DE SCALA 1903 or 1904 - arrived at Ellis Island CAROLINE CASTELLANO-b.1886? 1906? -arrived at Ellis Island as a mail order bride.(age 16) anybody know any of these folks?

    03/13/1998 05:51:21
    1. KELLY-HOLMAN, SINGLETARY, CATES-SHELTON
    2. Dave Masonhall
    3. KELLY-HOLMAN Am seeking information on David Kelly/Kelley, born in Indiana, died 1901, who was the father of Mary Elizabeth Kelly/Kelley, born 1856 in Texas, and the husband of Helen Holman, born Indiana. Helen's father was John Holman. ********************************************************************** ******* SINGLETARY.... Am seeking the parents/siblings of William Harrison Singletary, born 3-18-1850 in Georgia, died 5-6-1899 in Oklahoma. Married Sarah Emily "Sallie" Looney, born 9-17-1859 in Tennessee, died 11-1897 in Oklahoma, on 12-9-1877 in Brownwood, Brown County, Texas. Children were Clarence Preston, Robert Alexander, Herman Leroy, Ina Isola and Ernest Rayfield. ********************************************************************** ********** CATES-SHELTON.... ISAIAH CATES/KATES (b. circa 1817 in Tennessee/North Carolina (probably the section of N.C. that later became Tennessee) or Ireland; d. early 1860's in southwest Missouri) married NANCY SHELTON (b. circa 1826 in Tennessee; d. 1896 in McKinney, Collin County, Texas) circa 1841. It is believed they were in the Giles County, Tennessee at this time. Nancy was the daughter of William (b. Missouri/Virginia) and Mary (b. circa 1793 in Virginia) Shelton. By the 1850 census, they had moved 60 miles northwest to Perry County, Tennessee, a county split in half by the Tennessee River, but by 1854 had moved to Franklin Township, Dent County, Missouri, a journey of 250 miles to the northwest across the Mississippi River, where the family resided during the 1860 census. In the late 1850's, Isaiah was reported to be a doctor/farmer in southwestern Missouri. He supposedly was making a house call one night and was stranded in a snowstorm—his horse becoming entangled in a wire. He was found the next morning and later contracted pneumonia and died. His gravesite is as yet unknown. In the 1870 census, Nancy, George, Isaiah Jr., Joel, John, Elizabeth and Nancy's mother, Mary Shelton, were again in Dent County (Franklin Township, Salem), Missouri. In the 1870's, the family relocated once again to Texas, an even-longer trek of over 500 miles to the southwest. They had seven children named Margera (Margaret) Ann, Sarah, George, Isaiah Jr., Joel, John Conley and Bette Elizabeth. Need info on Isaiah and Nancy's parents/siblings, etc.. ********************************************************************** *********************

    03/13/1998 05:19:03
    1. Re: old 386 computer
    2. Ron
    3. Mike wrote: > > hi diane, > is it a lap top or a desk top? > no, it's not too old at all. > i will be glad to pay shipping and handling. This will be our first > donation to the pediatrics cancer ward. > thanks for your support. > mike Please take this to PRIVATE EMAIL, it is off-tpoic to this list! Ron Lahti Surname-Query Listowner

    03/13/1998 04:45:22