I appreciate your few rules you are establishing. They are not hard for thinking people to undertasnd the reason for being. Futhermore I appreciate the fact that you are attempting to raise the standards of your domain. Also, there are a multitude of us who are grateful for your work and the money your are spending for your own pocket to maintain this list. We have no right to complain!!! Rather we are deeply indebted and appreciative of your time and service. Please do not let those from the Augean Stables depress you. Keep up the good work. Wells

This is *the last posting* I am going to make on this topic. This piece of e-mail is a perfect example of illogical reasoning. Delete the welcome message, which includes the rules. Spam the list, and flame the listowner. Makes a lot of sense to me, and I am getting very aggravated by people who are so willing to break the rules. But I'm going to start deleting now! E-n-o-u-g-h is e-n-o-u-g-h!!! Casey Joe Somhorst wrote: > > PRES LOIS M FRIEDMAN wrote: > > > > I think that you are a DRILL SGT. Does the name SGT go to your head? > > I belong to many, many lists > > in hope of finding family or people that knew about my family. If I > > want RULES I would read ROBERT, > > not this list. You are obnoxious and controlling. All the lists I > > belong to are user friendly not > > moderator ruling. What are all these rules for? We are here for > > genealogy not for your big mouth. > > Can't you be friendly and helpful instead of pompous? If your cr_p > > continues I will sign off. > > > > Doesn't it bother you that so many people are unhappy with your > > domination of this list? Well, it should > > > > I stand with those that are unhappy with you and your rules. > > 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > Sgt. George, please forgive me for this post. But it needs saying. > > To those special people for whom rules never seem to apply: Please enjoy > yourself as you drive your car on the opposite side of the road. And, > though everyone else stops for the RED traffic light, you may, please, > feel free to be the exception and consider the light change from GREEN > to RED to mean GO! > > Rules are established to allow the most people to receive the most > advantage from a common resource. In this case it's not only the > inapplicable information and wasted bandwidth on the internet that is > undesireable, but there is a major storage problem, too. Every message, > no matter how pertinent or useless is stored in archives for ALL to > research later. This storage costs money to maintain and/or to edit for > content. If the information is not of value to the list the storage > space and time to search the old messages is wasted. So, the result is > that you consume resources (the time of others) with your egocentric > selfishness that could be MUCH MORE effectively used by those who are > truly interested in genelogical research-YOURS included. > > This is only my 3rd posting to this list since I joined months ago, and > even though my own research has not made much headway here, I still > enjoy the questions and comments relating to the list's common purpose. > Those of you who complain about having to follow rules would probably > feel free to gallop your horse through my vegetable garden, too. Well, > perhaps, I might feel just as free to fire a shotgun at you as you do > so. If it is so difficult for you to have consideration for the needs > and courtesies of others please feel free to drop off the list and > permit those who care to get on with their own work. You should be > ashamed of yourselves for such juvenile behavior. > > Again, my appologies to the list and list owner. > > No response is needed or desired. > > Thankyou > > Joe Somhorst

Hey thanks!! Karen At 10:59 AM 9/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >His name was Edward Teach. "....Edward Teach, or Thatch, one of >history's cruelest pirates. He was known as Blackbeard. He wore >his long, black beard in braids. Blackbeard had a long and >prosperous career, working with the protection of Charles Eden, >governor of Carolina. In 1718, however, Lieut. Gov. Alexander >Spotswood of Virginia outfitted two sloops with crews and ordered >the sailors to put an end to Blackbeard. They encountered the >pirate, and Lieut. Robert Maynard killed him in the fight that >followed." > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Excerpted from Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia >Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Compton's NewMedia, Inc. All Rights >Reserved > > >Karen Bowles wrote: > >> Does anyone know Blackbeard's real name and where >> he came from? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Karen >> >> ==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >> If not receiving messages, it may mean mail to your address >> has bounced. >> >> Please resubscribe... > > > > >==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from SURNAME-QUERY, send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] (for individual messages) > [email protected] (for Digest mode) >Subject: unsubscribe >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > > >

Thank you and Amen! -----Original Message----- From: SURNAME-QUERY List Owner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 2:46 AM Subject: Re: List if for learning, right?? >At 01:16 PM 9/7/98 -0500, Lon & T. Whisler wrote: >>Very Good Point!! I often wait for an answer to something and then >>never see it because of the strict rules. Usually if it is really important >>to me, I will email the person with the question, begging for them to >>forward me the answers they receive. But if they are as busy as I am, >>sometimes I never hear from them. It would be so much easier if we >>could all see the answers and then make the decision as to whether >>we want to read it or not. > >You make a good point in the last sentence; however, it ignores the >problem we are constantly faced with. If each and every reply came >back to the List, rather than to an individual, this would probable >cause the number of daily messages to increase 2- or 3-fold. There >are several things we COULD do to make it easier and more con- >venient for everyone, but let's face it, reality must overrule the ideal >situation most of the time. I COULD allow off-topic threads and even >"chit-chat"; lots of users would like that. I could stop insisting that >users use proper subject headers. RootsWeb COULD allow users >to send attachments or long messages over 15,000 bytes. You see, >lots of things COULD be allowed -- but they're not, for valid reasons. > >Some users may not like the way things are run here on this List, >but they just have to accept the fact that it's NOT going to change >and get on with their research instead of constantly griping and >sending these opposition views here to the List. I have said it before, >and I'll say it again, "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RULES AND WANT >TO DEBATE THEM, DO NOT DO SO ON THIS LIST." Send me >your comments, arguments, etc., via PRIVATE email, not back >here to the List. > >As to the Subject, "List is for learning, right?", the List is for >establishing >contacts for specific surname research. That and nothing more. > >Nuff said, >SgtGeorge >Listowner > > >==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== >APPROPRIATE SUBJECT LINES: > In an effort to provide meaningful Subject: lines in posts to the > SURNAME-QUERY List, the Listowner asks you to try to adhere to the > following format: > > SURNAME, First MI;dates;places > > An example would look like this: > > BROWNING, Arthur C.;1795-1876;PA>VA>OH > > Users of this SURNAME-QUERY List do not download every day in order > to read each of the hundreds of posts. They are looking for certain > SURNAMES, on which they are doing research, or are willing to help > others with research of said SURNAMES. Therefore, if you do not > provide meaningful Subject: lines, chances are good that your posts > will be deleted without having been read. > > Also, the accepted standard in conducting genealogy research via > the Internet/Web is to spell all SURNAMES in CAPS. > > > >

I just wanted you all to know i hit the reply button and sent it before i saw it was going back to the group. I TRY very hard not to send it back the right way but we are all human and do make mistakes. SORRY ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!! I just wanted you to know it was a accident and didn't want to have people complain about this letter. I do enjoy the groups. Vicki

My apologies to the list! I meant for this message to be private. I am getting tired of reading complaints that have nothing to do with genealogy! Would be nice if everyone could act like adults and stick to the topic, not spam the list--me included! Regards, Casey Casey wrote: > > Helena, > > I was wondering whose attitude you don't like? Is your remark > directed at the whole list or one person? > > Casey > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > unsubscribe > > > > Helena

Thank you for your advice. Vicki

"I feel the same way. All questions and no answers makes for dull reading and frustrated readers. We want answers!!!!!! Ruth" (For the benefit of the newbies to the list who don't understand what is going on yet, please understand I am not yelling at you.) Ruth, I will answer you on the list (knowing I may receive the wrath of SgtGeorge - with good cause) hoping you will FINALLY understand what he is saying here, and that maybe I can help others understand. Helpful info to others is okay to answer on-list. Replies with "Could you please look-up this" or "I have that" or repetitively stating things (such as this message is a repetition of many others) helps NOBODY. Both your message and my reply to it weren't helpful to anyone, unless mine manages to help SOMEBODY on this list understand the difference between HELPFUL genealogical info and NONSENSE. I didn't see anything genealogical on them ANYWHERE. Did YOU? We are wasting bandwidth with this nonsense! Sorry for the yelling, folks, but this is getting really ridiculous. And SgtGeorge, please forgive me. I think you know me well enough to know I don't get mad. I promise to either leave the stupid stuff alone next time or to reply off-list. Renee' in Okla. BAKER BOYD BROWN CALLEN COATNEY HUFFINES LEATHERS LEWALLEN MC COY ROSE TREAT WILHELM http://www.crosswinds.net/tulsa/~jespiddlin My husband [email protected] is researching - HILAND, LA VINESS / LE VINESS variations, MILES, SEE / SEAY variations. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Let me clear something up. I for one am a rule follower until these last two post. After this post I will go back to being a rule follower. I do not have a problem with rules. But the key word here is RULES not LAWS. And there is always exceptions to the rules. If someone deviates from the rules alittle bit whats the big deal. It may be their personal opinion that they are following the rules. Do you think people on this list say hey heres a list of rules lets break them. But the SGT. has a one sided opinion HIS OWN and WHAT EVER HE THINKS WE SHOULD ALL THINK. He needs to look at this from the other side of the fence also, the grass is just as green over here. I didn't mean to stir up the hive but I've quit so many lists because of all the bull on them. I felt it was time to say something. Maybe what need to be done is when someone subscribes to the list they have to confirm that they have read all the rules and regs. of the list. Once this is done maybe the three strike system.(But the moderator of this needs to be level headed)

In a message dated 9/8/98 2:57:31 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << [email protected] >> Im subscribed to this list and I have never been so disgusted of anything in my whole life I joined it to find lost relatives and by the time I get finished reading all this trash I dont care if I find any genealogy or not take my name off I know this isnt the way to do it so you can cut my head off I tried several ways to get this web and couldnt so take me off [email protected]

It is difficult to voice one's thoughts except be a posting to the list. Like many of us, I find the list useful. I am not concerned that Sgt. George posts "the rules" often. I AM concerned that it is necessary for him to do so. If you are unhappy with the list, please sign-off - unsubscribe. Thank you. Charles Charles Heisterkamp, III [email protected]

In a message dated 98-09-08 14:45:37 EDT, you write: << I am very interested in the following Surnames: AGARD, BAAB, BARTLEY, BULLARD (TN, MO, TX) , CAVE, FAIDLEY, RICE(VA, KY, IL, KS) SHELTON >> I have Shelton ( Va>Ill)--would be interested in comparing names with you. Sherron Logan

His name was Edward Teach. "....Edward Teach, or Thatch, one of history's cruelest pirates. He was known as Blackbeard. He wore his long, black beard in braids. Blackbeard had a long and prosperous career, working with the protection of Charles Eden, governor of Carolina. In 1718, however, Lieut. Gov. Alexander Spotswood of Virginia outfitted two sloops with crews and ordered the sailors to put an end to Blackbeard. They encountered the pirate, and Lieut. Robert Maynard killed him in the fight that followed." --------------------------------------------------------- Excerpted from Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Compton's NewMedia, Inc. All Rights Reserved Karen Bowles wrote: > Does anyone know Blackbeard's real name and where > he came from? > > Thanks in advance, > Karen > > ==== SURNAME-QUERY Mailing List ==== > If not receiving messages, it may mean mail to your address > has bounced. > > Please resubscribe...

Dittos Joe!

The main thing is keeping the main thing the main thing. Let's forget all of this pettiness and get back to finding our ancestors.

In a message dated 98-09-08 15:16:22 EDT, you write: << Are you going to arrest us? >> Yes! The Internet Police are working on this right now!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Everyone, I am a newbie, trying to find information on my Ggrandfather Robert Herney George James Silver married to Margaret Brown at St. Andrew, Edinburgh, Scotland in 1912 they had three children. I have a photo of him so I do know he is real :) Their Children are as follows. Helen Silver Moved to New York and married there. to whom is unknown at this time still wait to hear from my Mother about that. Margaret Silver to George Grieve in Edinburgh, Scotland Rebecca Silver b. 11 Mar 1917 Edmonton, Middlesex, England d. 24 Jan 1986 Lerwick, Shetland Is. Married to 1940 at St. Giles, Edinburgh, Scotland Laurence Robertson b. 20 Mar 1915 d. 18 May 1985 Lerwick, Shetland Is. Rebecca and Laurence were my Grandparents they had 5 children Any help would be great Regards Angela PS. I hope I have done this right I am new to this so if I have done it wrong please be nice if you have to tell me off. I don't like being shout at thanks <grin>

As a child I was told that all rules were there for a reason and need to be followed as a parent I have tried to teach my kids the same NOT a easy job as Sgt George is finding out. In the years that I managed several businesses the ones that didn't follow the rules were the ones that didn't hold a job for any lenght of time bet a lot of you complainers can relate to that!!!!!! Lets let George post the rules like several other listowners are doing and MAYBE if we all obey them he will only have to post them once a week instead of several times a day. If you have any comments please send them directly to me so I can delete you without plugging up the rootsweb lines. [email protected] Sorry George about sennding this to the list but just had to print up a list of family rules for my kids to follow and I to got the same response *vbg* Carol If it wasn't for the past... there would be no future... http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/9992/thompson.html http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/9992/runyan.html

<<Comments on this thread must stop. SgtGeorge Listowner>> Are you going to arrest us? Jim Rettig

In a message dated 98-09-08 14:45:38 EDT, you write: << AGARD, BAAB, BARTLEY, BULLARD (TN, MO, TX) , CAVE, FAIDLEY, RICE(VA, KY, >> Do you have a Francis Cave who, possibly, may have married a Bone in Missouri? [email protected] (Treva Key)