--- Michael and Wendy Bird <[email protected]> wrote: > CREMER > > Post 1650 this family is known as CREMER, but pre > 1650 it is sometimes known by the alias SCRIME, > SKRYME. It is very probable that its origin is Scrimgeo(u)r, then Scrimger, and eventually to Cremer. It means "Fencing master" but was classed with rogues and vagabonds which were not allowed to have schools in London. Side note: the words Scrimshaw and Skirmish also evolved from this name. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/