"beetle, worm, moth ".....???....eeouww. Um....van Duyser is not the surname I was enquiring about. I hopped onto someone else's query. My surname of interest was Thiessen which is said to devolve from "Matthew" . Since you said Duis did also...I wondered about the etymological connections and whether exploring Duis elements might provide clues to Thiessen (said to be of Flemish extraction). Thank you for your valuable input...what kind of "beetle, worm, moth" ??? Thanks again.....~malinda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KEEVER / VAN DUYSER > Hello Malinda, > > There a lot of possibilities for "Duis", e.g. Duisans in France (near Lille, > the area was inhabited by Flemish speaking people in the early Middle Ages), > Duisburg in Germany or Belgium, Duizel in the Netherlands, etc. In addition > there are likely to be quite a number of small farms and tiny villages that > don't appear on any large scale maps. It's probably best to establish the > region where your Van Duyser ancestors came from and then look at some very > detailed maps of the area. > > KEEVER - from medieval German kever (modern German : Käfer, modern Dutch : > kever) for beetle, worm, moth > > Regards, > > Ingolf Vogel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > Thanks again Ingolf, > > Do you happen to know where Duys or Duysen might be located ? > Also....have I asked you about the surname Keever ? > > ~malinda > > > From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:03 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > Hello Malinda, > > > > Patronymical names are quite common in the German language area. In old > > times people were called by their first name in combination with their > > father's name (e.g. Peter son of Christian, Peter Christiansohn, Peter > > Christiansen. > > In your case, your ancestors came from a place calles Duys or Duysen. That > > place (possibly a small farm or something similar) was named after > > (according to theory No. 2) a person called Mattheus. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > Thank you kindly, Ingolf. > > > > Any ideas why they would use his name as their surname ? > > ~malinda > > > > > > > Hello Malida, > > > > > > Matthias and Matthäus/Mattheus are forms of the Hebrew name Mattai. > > Matthew > > > was one of the Evangelists. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> > > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PAVLAK / VAN DUYSER > > > > > > > > > Thank you Ingolf, > > > > > > One of my surnames is also derived from Matheus or Matthew. > > > Can you tell me what Matheus or Matthew ? Who was this person ? > > > > > > ~malinda > > > > > > > > > > > > The ethomologists don't seem to be quite descided on what the Duis" > part > > > means. "Duis-" is quite common in place names in Western Germany and > the > > > Netherlands (Düssen, Düsseldorf, Duisburg, etc.) > > > > > > Possibitlity No 1. : the duis stemmes from the old indoeuropeans word > > "dus" > > > meaning decay or poison. > > > Possibilty No. 2 : Duis is a shorted form of MaTHEUS. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237