Stan, I hate to attempt to contradict Ingolf since his knowledge of Germanic names is FAR greater than mine, but according to "New Dictionary of American Family Names" by E.C. Smith, "WICHMAN" and "WICKMAN" are two entirely different names. And, according to the posting I received your spelling is with a "k", not an "h", right? Barbara Stan Wickman wrote: > Holy Mackerel!!! > > Thanks Ingolf. Vielen Dank. I shall try to use this info constructively. > > Stan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > > > Hello, > > > > Wiegmann, Wigmann, Wichmann are all the same name. Wig and Wich are > > pronounced the same way in German. Often you have the spelling change back > > and forth between Wigmann and Wichmann within a few years. Wichmann is a > > VERY common name in northern Germany ! > > > > The name Wi(e)g(ch)mann is made up of the Germanic roots "wig" (war) and > > "man" (man). > > Variants include : Weichmann, Weickmann, Weigmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann, > > Wickmann, Wigmann, all depending on local dialect and on the preference of > > the priest - with frequent changes of the spelling. > > > > The German telephone directory lists : > > > > Wichmann 6050 > > Wiechmann 2032 > > Wigmann 42 > > Wiegmann 1913 > > Wieckmann 10 > > Wiekmann 0 > > Wickmann 122 > > Wiekmann 0 > > Weichmann 193 > > > > Regards, > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stan Wickman" <cownabor@htdconnect.com> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:42 AM > > Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN, METCALFE > > > > > > > I have a reference that relates both WICKMAN and METCALFE to cows in > > > England. This is fascinating to me because my wife is a METCALFE whose > > roots > > > lie in England and Ireland among other sources. > > > > > > There are a large number of Scandinavian WICKMANs in the USA, especially > > > Wisconsin and Minnesota. > > > > > > My ancestors came from Hannover in Deutschland. There are apparently > > several > > > possibilities: Wiegmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann to name three. > > > > > > Will Durant, in his history, relates the English "wick" to the > > Scandahoovian > > > "vik" because of the Viking raids and the similar meanings of the words. > > > > > > What say you about the possibilities for the origin of WICKMAN? > > METCALF(E)? > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Yes. I spell it with a "k." There seems no doubt that the "k" accompanied Frederick and his wife, Mary GREINER, all the way from Deutschland. But this is not confirmed yet. My problems with the origin stem from the knowledge that WICKMANs with Scandinavian roots abound in Wisconsin and Minnesota. One such was Carl WICKMAN who began the Greyhound Bus Company. They built a monument to him in his hometown because of his generosity toward his roots. Couple that with the fact that Vikings swarmed over early England bringing their language and leaving progeny. According to Will Durant, the historian, the English word "wick" and the Scandinavian word "vik" have similar pronunciation and similar meaning: a small town. Blend those pieces of data with the knowledge that Scandinavians had access through Denmark to Deutschland and stir in the fact that the king of England was a Hannoverian who conscripted Englishmen to send to the aid of the Prussian resistance to Napoleon and you have myriad possibilities for the origin of a Hannoverian named WICKMAN. I inquired here to see if there were other observers of these conditions. I am eternally grateful to you for your response. If I can return the favor, please let me know. Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaChance" <lachance@ccis.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > Stan, > I hate to attempt to contradict Ingolf since his knowledge of Germanic names is FAR > greater than mine, but according to "New Dictionary of American Family Names" by > E.C. Smith, "WICHMAN" and "WICKMAN" are two entirely different names. And, > according to the posting I received your spelling is with a "k", not an "h", right? > Barbara > > > Stan Wickman wrote: > > > Holy Mackerel!!! > > > > Thanks Ingolf. Vielen Dank. I shall try to use this info constructively. > > > > Stan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ingolf Vogel" <vogeling@freenet.de> > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:35 AM > > Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Wiegmann, Wigmann, Wichmann are all the same name. Wig and Wich are > > > pronounced the same way in German. Often you have the spelling change back > > > and forth between Wigmann and Wichmann within a few years. Wichmann is a > > > VERY common name in northern Germany ! > > > > > > The name Wi(e)g(ch)mann is made up of the Germanic roots "wig" (war) and > > > "man" (man). > > > Variants include : Weichmann, Weickmann, Weigmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann, > > > Wickmann, Wigmann, all depending on local dialect and on the preference of > > > the priest - with frequent changes of the spelling. > > > > > > The German telephone directory lists : > > > > > > Wichmann 6050 > > > Wiechmann 2032 > > > Wigmann 42 > > > Wiegmann 1913 > > > Wieckmann 10 > > > Wiekmann 0 > > > Wickmann 122 > > > Wiekmann 0 > > > Weichmann 193 > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ingolf Vogel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stan Wickman" <cownabor@htdconnect.com> > > > To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 6:42 AM > > > Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] WICKMAN, METCALFE > > > > > > > > > > I have a reference that relates both WICKMAN and METCALFE to cows in > > > > England. This is fascinating to me because my wife is a METCALFE whose > > > roots > > > > lie in England and Ireland among other sources. > > > > > > > > There are a large number of Scandinavian WICKMANs in the USA, especially > > > > Wisconsin and Minnesota. > > > > > > > > My ancestors came from Hannover in Deutschland. There are apparently > > > several > > > > possibilities: Wiegmann, Wichmann, Wiechmann to name three. > > > > > > > > Will Durant, in his history, relates the English "wick" to the > > > Scandahoovian > > > > "vik" because of the Viking raids and the similar meanings of the words. > > > > > > > > What say you about the possibilities for the origin of WICKMAN? > > > METCALF(E)? > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >