Hello, I am looking for the meaning of the surname DANECKI. Thank you for your help, Sallia

I've been hoping to find someone versed in celtic languages, and perhaps able to give me a push in the right direction. After years of research on the origins of "Everest", I have retained eofor-raest, meaning in old english the dwelling place of the wild boar. Eofor being either the animal, a man's name or a boar-like monster depending on the OE texts and their translations. Now, I know quite a bit (bumptious me!) about OE and germanic philology, and know that such 'popular' words as eofor should have left some trace in today's english. It hasn't - in any of the possible meanings. Google research gives a lot of very learnèd exchanges on the translations and interpretations of the word, but no explanations as to why it disappeared - at least to my knowledge. I am of kentish origins, and have investigated the jute/flemish possibilities with no success. My last (no, it's never the last!) hope is that the word is perhaps of even earlier origin - celtic???. So....does a word vaguely similat to eofor, eovor, eobor etc.. exist or has ever existed in a celtic tongue, with a meaning of boars, monsters, names of people - especially references to courage and evil, but not necessarily evil bravery? Thanks for any hints Geoff

Hello, DETKE - diminuative/shortend form of names with the root "Det/Diet" (e.g. Dietrich, Dietmar, Dieter etc.) Diet (old German : "thiot") means "people". Btw. Germany/Deutschland also as that root in it's name : Diet's - Land = (land of the (our) people) HARTKE - diminuative/shortend form of names with the root "Hart(i)" (e.g. Hartmann, Hertmuth, Hartlieb etc.") "harti" is old German for "hard, strong" KRAUSE - 1) name given to a person with curly hair 2) (less often) from medieval German "kruse" for a beaker/cup - name given to a cup-maker. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: <BrigitteBH@aol.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Re: SURNAME-ORIGINS-D Digest V03 #6 > > Hello, List, > > I'm seeking information on the origins of the German names, Detke, Hartke, > and Krause. Thank you for your help. > > Brigitte Begue Hartke > in sunny northern Virginia > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Perhaps it's because I'm not German speaking myself, but I'm having trouble understanding the leap from Jacob/Yaakov to Kusch. What am I missing ??? ~malinda -----Original Message----- From: LaChance [mailto:lachance@ccis.com] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:39 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KUES/KUSCH While I still haven't found KUES, I did find: COUSEN (Eng. and Fr.) and it means "cousin", a relative of a prominent person in the community. KUSS, KUSSE (Ger.) Descendant of Kus, a pet form of Marcus (belonging to Mars, the god of war), and of Dominicus (the Lord's day). ---Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by Elsdon C. Smith. As you can see, at least those two names are not related to one another. KUSCH ( German, of Slavic origin) Diminutive of JAKOB, from the Hebrew given name "Yaakov". ---Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. Barbara Guido Schulz wrote: >>Is KUSCH a spelling variant of KUSS ? >> >> > >Hi malinda, > >I don't think so. KUSCH maybe has a french origin "couche", "coucher" = >lay down, sleep... from "collocare" > >Till now, I couldn't clear beyond all doubt whether the following names >are in connection with the name KUES - anybody an idea?: > >COUESNON, COUEZ, COUET, COUEZ, COUSSE, COUSEN, KUESS, KÜES, KUIS, KUIJS, >KUSE, KUSS, KUSSE, KUUS > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello, List, I'm seeking information on the origins of the German names, Detke, Hartke, and Krause. Thank you for your help. Brigitte Begue Hartke in sunny northern Virginia

While I still haven't found KUES, I did find: COUSEN (Eng. and Fr.) and it means "cousin", a relative of a prominent person in the community. KUSS, KUSSE (Ger.) Descendant of Kus, a pet form of Marcus (belonging to Mars, the god of war), and of Dominicus (the Lord's day). ---Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by Elsdon C. Smith. As you can see, at least those two names are not related to one another. KUSCH ( German, of Slavic origin) Diminutive of JAKOB, from the Hebrew given name "Yaakov". ---Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. Barbara Guido Schulz wrote: >>Is KUSCH a spelling variant of KUSS ? >> >> > >Hi malinda, > >I don't think so. KUSCH maybe has a french origin "couche", "coucher" = >lay down, sleep... from "collocare" > >Till now, I couldn't clear beyond all doubt whether the following names >are in connection with the name KUES - anybody an idea?: > >COUESNON, COUEZ, COUET, COUEZ, COUSSE, COUSEN, KUESS, KÜES, KUIS, KUIJS, >KUSE, KUSS, KUSSE, KUUS > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Yes. Isle of Man, not Cornwall. Have you checked with Kathleen Chappel? I think she's still active on your list. She has some knowledge of Cornish names. I will forward this to her tonight. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Kernow62@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:05 PM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] GARRA Hi Gary, No, they didn't speak the same language. The Celts of Ireland, Scotland & Isle of Man spoke a Goedelic form of Celtic, whilst the Cornish, Welsh, Cumbrians and Bretons spoke the Brythonic form. This Brythonic form was the ancient British language. They are not mutually intelligible between Goedelic & Brythonic. Cornish is most closely allied with Breton. There are some words in common to both Goedelic and Brythonic, these are usually the oldest words in the language, likely dating from the period in which the Celts were in Central Europe. I am not sure it is Celtic, it is found in Cornwall from the 1327, but could have come from England. There are many places in Cornwall called Garras which probably stems from garrow meaning rough & ros meaning moorland. The reason I was thinking a Celtic origin is the existence of O'Garra and derivatives in Ireland. Jim > Reread your query. If you think it's Celtic, there's a chance that it means > rough or rude. This is just a guess. Wonder if there is a Celtic sight > where > someone would have a better idea. Cornwall and Ireland spoke the same > languages at one time. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Gary, No, they didn't speak the same language. The Celts of Ireland, Scotland & Isle of Man spoke a Goedelic form of Celtic, whilst the Cornish, Welsh, Cumbrians and Bretons spoke the Brythonic form. This Brythonic form was the ancient British language. They are not mutually intelligible between Goedelic & Brythonic. Cornish is most closely allied with Breton. There are some words in common to both Goedelic and Brythonic, these are usually the oldest words in the language, likely dating from the period in which the Celts were in Central Europe. I am not sure it is Celtic, it is found in Cornwall from the 1327, but could have come from England. There are many places in Cornwall called Garras which probably stems from garrow meaning rough & ros meaning moorland. The reason I was thinking a Celtic origin is the existence of O'Garra and derivatives in Ireland. Jim > Reread your query. If you think it's Celtic, there's a chance that it means > rough or rude. This is just a guess. Wonder if there is a Celtic sight > where > someone would have a better idea. Cornwall and Ireland spoke the same > languages at one time.

Reread your query. If you think it's Celtic, there's a chance that it means rough or rude. This is just a guess. Wonder if there is a Celtic sight where someone would have a better idea. Cornwall and Ireland spoke the same languages at one time. Gary

GARRA -I'm guessing English but it could be Irish, too. I know the name is found among Spaniards, too. It's not the same as "guerra" = war, but the spelling is the same (GARRA). This may be one of those names that appears in different places with no outside influence. It seems certain that it is. I would bet on English for you, particularly if you have backup evidence. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Kernow62@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 6:32 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] GARRA surname In a message dated 26-Jan-2003 01:10:29 Eastern Standard Time, glradcliffe@msn.com writes: > GARRA - A three-cornered or projecting piece of land. Found in > Herefordshire Does it say from what language it is derived? Jim ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 26-Jan-2003 01:10:29 Eastern Standard Time, glradcliffe@msn.com writes: > GARRA - A three-cornered or projecting piece of land. Found in > Herefordshire Does it say from what language it is derived? Jim

GARRA - A three-cornered or projecting piece of land. Found in Herefordshire "GAR" is a syllable often used to describe a spear, spear point or one who used a spear in warfare. Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: Kernow62@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:15 PM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] GARRA surname Anyone know of a Celtic meaning for GARRA, it is found in Cornwall, there is also O'GARRA and variants in Ireland. Jim ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Anyone know of a Celtic meaning for GARRA, it is found in Cornwall, there is also O'GARRA and variants in Ireland. Jim

Thank you kindly Ingolf, ~malinda -----Original Message----- From: Ingolf Vogel [mailto:vogeling@freenet.de] Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:26 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KUES/KUSCH KUSCH - 1) German : chaste 2) slavic derivation of Jacob or Kunat 3) Polish : kusz = cup/beaker Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: RE: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KUES/KUSCH > Is KUSCH a spelling variant of KUSS ? > > ~malinda > > > Hi Guido-- > > Kuss (plural: Kuesse) is the German word for kiss. > > Ed Beuchert > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

> Is KUSCH a spelling variant of KUSS ? Hi malinda, I don't think so. KUSCH maybe has a french origin "couche", "coucher" = lay down, sleep... from "collocare" Till now, I couldn't clear beyond all doubt whether the following names are in connection with the name KUES - anybody an idea?: COUESNON, COUEZ, COUET, COUEZ, COUSSE, COUSEN, KUESS, KÜES, KUIS, KUIJS, KUSE, KUSS, KUSSE, KUUS

KUSCH - 1) German : chaste 2) slavic derivation of Jacob or Kunat 3) Polish : kusz = cup/beaker Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: "malinda" <mthiesse@swbell.net> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: RE: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] KUES/KUSCH > Is KUSCH a spelling variant of KUSS ? > > ~malinda > > > Hi Guido-- > > Kuss (plural: Kuesse) is the German word for kiss. > > Ed Beuchert > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, Although I don't have a meaning for the name Pellinen : it looks Finnish. They have quite a number of names ending in -inen up there. Regards, Ingolf Vogel ----- Original Message ----- From: <MikeBeitel@aol.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:40 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] PELLINEN > First I wanted to thank everyone for the previous responses ... secondly, > I''m also doing some work for a friend last name PELLINEN. He says it's > Scandinavian and may have been spelled PELLINENT at one time. Has anyone > heard of this surname and a have any knowledge of it's meaning? > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike Beitel > > > > "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their > own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular > government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a > prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both." > --James Madison-- > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

First I wanted to thank everyone for the previous responses ... secondly, I''m also doing some work for a friend last name PELLINEN. He says it's Scandinavian and may have been spelled PELLINENT at one time. Has anyone heard of this surname and a have any knowledge of it's meaning? Thanks in advance, Mike Beitel "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both." --James Madison--

Is KUSCH a spelling variant of KUSS ? ~malinda Hi Guido-- Kuss (plural: Kuesse) is the German word for kiss. Ed Beuchert

Couldn't find either name as given, but did find: \ BODEMEYER (German) Farmer in the swamp. (Found a couple other names starting with "Bode-" and all had something to do with swamps or swampy land.) Source: German-American Names by George F. Jones. Barbara Msrnter@aol.com wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I would like to know the meaning and roots of two surnames in our family. >They are Bodemer and Sellenberg, both German. > >Thanks, >MSRNTER@aol.com > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >