Will give it a try but it will have to be tomorrow night as its WAY past my bedtime and my eyeballs are drooping. :-) Barbara roland elliott wrote: >Thank you,how about Mitchell,Sheardown,and then a mess of Dutch names? >----- Original Message ----- >From: "LaChance" <lachance@ccis.com> >To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 22:26 >Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] >Elliott/Varley,Chapman,Stockton,shields,Chernay. > > > > >>ELLIOTT >>1. English: diminutive of ELLIS. >>2. English & Scot.: from a Middle English given name, " Elyat, Elyt". >>3. Scot.: Anglicized form of the Gaelic surname "ELLOCH, ELOTH", meaning >>someone who lived near a dam, mound, or bank. >> >>VARLEY ( English) of uncertain origin, probably a habitation name from >>"Verly" in Aisne, Picardy, so called from the Gallo-Roman personal name >>"Viriliou" + the local suffix "-acum". The surname is now most common >>in W. Yorkshire. >> >>CHAPMAN (English) a merchant or trader (from an Old English word meaning >>"barter, bargain, price, property" + "mann" man). >> >>STOCKTON (English) someone from any of the places, for example in >>Cheshire, County Durham, Hertsfordshire, Norfolk, Shropshire, >>Warwickshire, Wiltshire, Worcestershire, and N. and W. Yorkshire, so >>called from Old English "stocc" (tree trunk) or "stoc" (dependent >>settlement) + "tun" (settlement, enclosure). It is not possible to >>distinguish between the two first elements on the basis of early forms. >> >>SHIELDS >>1. English: an armourer. >>2. English: someone from places in Northumberland and County Durham (now >>both in Tyne and Wear) called respectively "N and S Shields", from a >>Middle English word meaning "shed, hut, shelter". Some examples of the >>name may be topographic, derived directly from the vocabulary word. >>3. English: someone who lived near the shallow part of a river. >>4. Irish: Anglicized form of "O'Siaghail, O'Siadhail" (descendant of >>"Siadhal"). >> >>CHERNAY - couldn't find this one as written. Did find two possibilities: >>\ CHERNEY, CHARNEY (Czech-Slav.) The dark complected man. >>\ CHENAY, CHENEY, CHENE (French) someone who lived near a conspicuous >>oak tree, or in an oak forest. The name may also have sometimes been a >>nickname for a man with a "heart of oak". >>---Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. >>Barbara >> >>roland elliott wrote: >> >> >> >>>I am interested in in the above ,Thank you. >>>Quidquid latine dictum sit,altum viditur. >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >>> >>> >go to: > > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> >> >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> >> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

ALKIRE (German) Variation of ALGEIER, ALGEIR, ALGEYER, ALGIRE, ALGYER, (ALLGAEU - n Austria). As best as I can figure out from my source, the variations are due to dialect, a relic of a bygone era, mispronunciations, or (in the came of immigrants) a change in spelling in an effort to keep the pronunciation correct in the new surroundings. ---Source: German-American Names by George F. Jones. Barbara Mary Scott wrote: >Would anyone out there know what the original name for Alkire could be? Other spellings seem to be Algire, Alguirre and Von Alkier. I do correspond with two people in Germany with this last name and it is the same there; some spell it one way and some another. Some traditional stories said they came from Scotland. The time of arrival seems to be before 1750. > >Any help would be appreciated. >Mary > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Thank you,how about Mitchell,Sheardown,and then a mess of Dutch names? ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaChance" <lachance@ccis.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 22:26 Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Elliott/Varley,Chapman,Stockton,shields,Chernay. > ELLIOTT > 1. English: diminutive of ELLIS. > 2. English & Scot.: from a Middle English given name, " Elyat, Elyt". > 3. Scot.: Anglicized form of the Gaelic surname "ELLOCH, ELOTH", meaning > someone who lived near a dam, mound, or bank. > > VARLEY ( English) of uncertain origin, probably a habitation name from > "Verly" in Aisne, Picardy, so called from the Gallo-Roman personal name > "Viriliou" + the local suffix "-acum". The surname is now most common > in W. Yorkshire. > > CHAPMAN (English) a merchant or trader (from an Old English word meaning > "barter, bargain, price, property" + "mann" man). > > STOCKTON (English) someone from any of the places, for example in > Cheshire, County Durham, Hertsfordshire, Norfolk, Shropshire, > Warwickshire, Wiltshire, Worcestershire, and N. and W. Yorkshire, so > called from Old English "stocc" (tree trunk) or "stoc" (dependent > settlement) + "tun" (settlement, enclosure). It is not possible to > distinguish between the two first elements on the basis of early forms. > > SHIELDS > 1. English: an armourer. > 2. English: someone from places in Northumberland and County Durham (now > both in Tyne and Wear) called respectively "N and S Shields", from a > Middle English word meaning "shed, hut, shelter". Some examples of the > name may be topographic, derived directly from the vocabulary word. > 3. English: someone who lived near the shallow part of a river. > 4. Irish: Anglicized form of "O'Siaghail, O'Siadhail" (descendant of > "Siadhal"). > > CHERNAY - couldn't find this one as written. Did find two possibilities: > \ CHERNEY, CHARNEY (Czech-Slav.) The dark complected man. > \ CHENAY, CHENEY, CHENE (French) someone who lived near a conspicuous > oak tree, or in an oak forest. The name may also have sometimes been a > nickname for a man with a "heart of oak". > ---Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. > Barbara > > roland elliott wrote: > > >I am interested in in the above ,Thank you. > >Quidquid latine dictum sit,altum viditur. > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Gordon, I don't know much about words of Germanic origin, but I do know that the final -s- also often indicates "descendant or son of..." in Welsh and other languages (i.e., Jones - "John's son"). In this case (MULLINS), in "A Dictionary of Surnames" by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges, is listed as definitely English and is one of several variations of the name MULLEN, meaning someone who lived by a mill, or an occupational name for a miller, originating from the Anglo-Norman French word "mo(u)lin, mulin" (mill). Barbara Gordon Barlow wrote: >> That final 's' almost certainly shows a germanic origin, where the >> >> >root > > >>of the word is not. >> >> > >I am a brand-new subscriber, and an amateur in the field of word-origins, >and if my question has been dealt with before on the List, I apologise. It >is this. What is it about a final 's' in a British surname that indicates a >Germanic origin? > >I suppose that a final 's' could be one of three things: a plural, a >possessive, and a dialectal "preference" such as one finds with other >suffixes such as -o and -y. I almost wrote "meaningless" dialectal >preference: I for one have never found any serious explanation of why some >past British dialects tended to have -o, some -y, some -s, and some -l. >Other European dialects too, presumably, with those and other "meaningless" >suffixes. > >I don't know much about Teutonic suffixes compared with say Irish suffixes >or Welsh suffixes or Slavic suffixes. Out of such ignorance comes my >question. > >Gordon Barlow > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

ELLIOTT 1. English: diminutive of ELLIS. 2. English & Scot.: from a Middle English given name, " Elyat, Elyt". 3. Scot.: Anglicized form of the Gaelic surname "ELLOCH, ELOTH", meaning someone who lived near a dam, mound, or bank. VARLEY ( English) of uncertain origin, probably a habitation name from "Verly" in Aisne, Picardy, so called from the Gallo-Roman personal name "Viriliou" + the local suffix "-acum". The surname is now most common in W. Yorkshire. CHAPMAN (English) a merchant or trader (from an Old English word meaning "barter, bargain, price, property" + "mann" man). STOCKTON (English) someone from any of the places, for example in Cheshire, County Durham, Hertsfordshire, Norfolk, Shropshire, Warwickshire, Wiltshire, Worcestershire, and N. and W. Yorkshire, so called from Old English "stocc" (tree trunk) or "stoc" (dependent settlement) + "tun" (settlement, enclosure). It is not possible to distinguish between the two first elements on the basis of early forms. SHIELDS 1. English: an armourer. 2. English: someone from places in Northumberland and County Durham (now both in Tyne and Wear) called respectively "N and S Shields", from a Middle English word meaning "shed, hut, shelter". Some examples of the name may be topographic, derived directly from the vocabulary word. 3. English: someone who lived near the shallow part of a river. 4. Irish: Anglicized form of "O'Siaghail, O'Siadhail" (descendant of "Siadhal"). CHERNAY - couldn't find this one as written. Did find two possibilities: \ CHERNEY, CHARNEY (Czech-Slav.) The dark complected man. \ CHENAY, CHENEY, CHENE (French) someone who lived near a conspicuous oak tree, or in an oak forest. The name may also have sometimes been a nickname for a man with a "heart of oak". ---Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. Barbara roland elliott wrote: >I am interested in in the above ,Thank you. >Quidquid latine dictum sit,altum viditur. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Someone points to the home of William Bridge and asks, "Who lives there?" "The Bridges," a man answers. We find Wood - Woods and other names with and without the final S. More often than not the final S seems to indicate the entire family and that's how the tax collector writes it. Italians did the same, i.e., Tedesco becomes Tedeschi. But Tedesco often remains unchanged. In Wales it's always Matthews but Thomas is always Thomas. I'd be interested in other explanations. So glad to see you on the list, Gordon. Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA

> That final 's' almost certainly shows a germanic origin, where the root > of the word is not. I am a brand-new subscriber, and an amateur in the field of word-origins, and if my question has been dealt with before on the List, I apologise. It is this. What is it about a final 's' in a British surname that indicates a Germanic origin? I suppose that a final 's' could be one of three things: a plural, a possessive, and a dialectal "preference" such as one finds with other suffixes such as -o and -y. I almost wrote "meaningless" dialectal preference: I for one have never found any serious explanation of why some past British dialects tended to have -o, some -y, some -s, and some -l. Other European dialects too, presumably, with those and other "meaningless" suffixes. I don't know much about Teutonic suffixes compared with say Irish suffixes or Welsh suffixes or Slavic suffixes. Out of such ignorance comes my question. Gordon Barlow

I am interested in in the above ,Thank you. Quidquid latine dictum sit,altum viditur.

Jurgen, Thank you for the information about the name Alkire. Mary

mary, a common name in germany is "allgeier" (also with ey), english spelling would be allgire or possibly all the other versions in your post - it simply means "from the allgäu" which is a region in the far south of germany. jurgen ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Scott <mrscott@cambridgeoh.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 4:39 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Alkire > Would anyone out there know what the original name for Alkire could be? Other spellings seem to be Algire, Alguirre and Von Alkier. I do correspond with two people in Germany with this last name and it is the same there; some spell it one way and some another. Some traditional stories said they came from Scotland. The time of arrival seems to be before 1750. > > Any help would be appreciated. > Mary > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: GARY RADCLIFFE Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 12:53 AM To: Geoffrey EVEREST Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] MULLINS Seems to me that MILHOUSE was once MULHOUSE as in Richard Nixon. It became MILHOUSE after their move to Ireland. Speaking from memory. But the spelling would be even more different, i.e., MULHAUS? Gary (just down the road from Yorba Linda) ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoffrey EVEREST Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 11:35 AM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] MULLINS I'm a bit late on this one, but since it is a really interesting case I'll add my pinch of salt.... That final 's' almost certainly shows a germanic origin, where the root of the word is not. In fact the old english word 'mylen' is directly copied from the latin word 'molinum', and is one of the handful of rare words to have done so. Other 'latin' words were re-imported via french after 1066. Both words in fact mean 'grinding stone' rather than mill - perhaps there is a specialist out there who could tell us where and when the first water/windmills appeared? The latin words molina/molinum only appear after the christianisation of Rome, so it may be debatable as to who copied whom - does the word have celtic origins? I would be very happy if someone could give more info on this point. Geoff ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Would anyone out there know what the original name for Alkire could be? Other spellings seem to be Algire, Alguirre and Von Alkier. I do correspond with two people in Germany with this last name and it is the same there; some spell it one way and some another. Some traditional stories said they came from Scotland. The time of arrival seems to be before 1750. Any help would be appreciated. Mary

I'm a bit late on this one, but since it is a really interesting case I'll add my pinch of salt.... That final 's' almost certainly shows a germanic origin, where the root of the word is not. In fact the old english word 'mylen' is directly copied from the latin word 'molinum', and is one of the handful of rare words to have done so. Other 'latin' words were re-imported via french after 1066. Both words in fact mean 'grinding stone' rather than mill - perhaps there is a specialist out there who could tell us where and when the first water/windmills appeared? The latin words molina/molinum only appear after the christianisation of Rome, so it may be debatable as to who copied whom - does the word have celtic origins? I would be very happy if someone could give more info on this point. Geoff

in a german book of names there appears markovic (with an accent upon the c) with the explanation that it is a patronomic diversion of markus from the region of former yugoslavia. the ending might give a hint to what the last station/ language of the emigrating person was. vicz is polish, witsch is german and vitch might be anglizised. jurgen ----- Original Message ----- From: misfethr <misfethr@hotmail.com> To: <SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Markovitch Markowicz > Thank you for the reply. There's so very little information out there on > this name or even family. Hopefully with more research I'll be able to find > out more. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Gary is right on all counts. Markovitch is Polish; Markowicz is Croatian and it's popularity does stem from the biblical name of "St. Mark the Evangelist". A few other saints also bore the name. It originates from the Latin "Marcus" which may have some connection with the war god "Mars". ---Source: A New Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. Barbara GARY RADCLIFFE wrote: >MARKOWICZ / MARKOVITCH - Unable to cite an authority but it sounds >like "son of Mark" to me. Eastern European, Polish or Russian or Slavic. >It would be considered a Bible name after Mark. > >Gary Radcliffe >West Covina, CA > >----- Original Message ----- >From: misfethr >Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:24 PM >To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Markovitch Markowicz > >Does anyone happen to know the origins of the name of Markovitch or possibly >Markowicz? My mother's maiden name is Markovitch but apparently my great >grandparents' last name was Markowicz according to their tombstones. I've >been able to find very little information on this name. Thanks for the help. > >Melissa McCarty >Allentown, PA > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Thank you for the reply. There's so very little information out there on this name or even family. Hopefully with more research I'll be able to find out more.

Thanks again, Barbara. Seems Priscilla descended from Alexander Radclyffe. Sometimes our guesses are pretty good. Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: LaChance Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:12 PM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] MULLINS According to "New Dictionary of American Family Names" by Elsdon C. Smith, "MULLINS" is Irish and French. One of the meanings is "one who came from Moulins or Moulines (mills), the names of several places in France". It also means "one who ground grain, a miller". Barbara GARY RADCLIFFE wrote: >MULLINS was sometimes spelled MOLINES in England. Anthing to do with a miller? > >Gary Radcliffe >West Covina, CA > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

MARKOWICZ / MARKOVITCH - Unable to cite an authority but it sounds like "son of Mark" to me. Eastern European, Polish or Russian or Slavic. It would be considered a Bible name after Mark. Gary Radcliffe West Covina, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: misfethr Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:24 PM To: SURNAME-ORIGINS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Markovitch Markowicz Does anyone happen to know the origins of the name of Markovitch or possibly Markowicz? My mother's maiden name is Markovitch but apparently my great grandparents' last name was Markowicz according to their tombstones. I've been able to find very little information on this name. Thanks for the help. Melissa McCarty Allentown, PA ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Does anyone happen to know the origins of the name of Markovitch or possibly Markowicz? My mother's maiden name is Markovitch but apparently my great grandparents' last name was Markowicz according to their tombstones. I've been able to find very little information on this name. Thanks for the help. Melissa McCarty Allentown, PA

Butterick ~ (English) One who came from Butterwick (butter farm), the name of several places in England. Bigelow ~ (English) 1- Dweller on, or near, the barley hill. 2- One who came from Baguley (ram's woodland), the name of several places in England. Brigham ~ (English) One who came from Brigham (homestead by the bridge), the name of places in Cumberland and Yorkshire. ---Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by Elsdon C. Smith. Barbara Becky Jo Barben wrote: > > Hello ~ Can you tell me what these names mean and their origins? > These are cousin lines, but the names are intersting. Thank you in > advance for your time. ~ Becky > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >