Barbara, Thanks for that. You've given me plenty to think about. Billy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LaChance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Introduction > Couldn't find any of the spellings you give, but did find: > STRAINGE, STRANEO, STRANI, STRANIERI, STRANIERO, STRANIO, STRANO (English [1st one], Italian [all the rest]) Variations of "STRANGE", nickname for a newcomer to an area. > Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. > and: > STRAIN, STRAINE (Ir.) Anglicized form of "Strahan". > \ STRAHAN (Ir., Sc.) Grandson of "Struthan" (poet); variant of "Strachan" > \ STRACHAN (Scot., Ir.) One who came from Strachan (valley field), in Kincardineshire; grandson of Struthan (poet). > Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. > Barbara > > William Stranney wrote: > > > Hi everybody! > > > > I'm new to this list and don't know what's expected yet so I'll keep this first email short. If more detail is required please just let me know. I am interested in the origins and meaning of the surname "Straney". Variations of Straney, I have found, are "Stranie, Strany, Stranay, Stranny, Stranney and Strainey. People of that name have lived from at least 1680s onwards in Co Down N Ireland, Southern Scotland, North-West England and Isle of Man. The major movements of these Straneys have been to USA mainly; a smaller number to Canada; a smaller number still to New South Wales Australia. > > I have an "internet friend" who lives in USA who is very interested in this same name and its origins. I intend persuading him to join this list! I'll say no more for now. I would like advice from the list administrator as to what is expected here. I did look for archival material to browse but couldn't find any. I assume the list is very new. > > > > I would very much appreciate any help or assistance anyone can give me with the above. I'll return the favour if I can. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Builly. > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Gary, Thanks for that information Billy. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 1:39 AM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] STRANEY > STRANEY - (Irish) Just guessing here but it might be related to > Strahan. Generally speaking, the meaning would > be something like "poet" or "scribe" or "clerk." > > Strahan is actually Celtic in origin. > > Gary Radcliffe > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Thank you very much for answering my surname question so clearly and precisely. I really appreciated your help. Thanks again. Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Copia and Shackleford Surnames > SHACKLEFORD - (English) Found in Surrey. The -ford element speaks > for itself as a water crossing place. The -shackle > probably meant the crossing was eased by the place- > ment of shackles or staples. > > Gary Radcliffe > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Thank you so much for helping me answer my question. I really appreciate it. Thanks again. Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: LaChance <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Copia and Shackleford Surnames > SHACKLEFORD (English) One who came from Shackleford (Shackel's ford), in Surrey. > > COPIA ? > Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. > Barbara > > Robert Hatcher wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > > Could someone please tell me what the surnames Shackleford and Copia mean and their origins? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > > Jennifer > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

MARS, MARRS 1. English: habitation name from "Marr" in W. Yorkshire, which is of uncertain etymology. It may have been named with Old Norse "marr", a rare word used normally of the sea, but perhaps also of a marsh or fen, as reflected in modern forms. 2. Scots.: habitation name from "Mar" in the former county of Aberdeens, the etymology of which is equally uncertain, and possibly identical with that of 1. Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. or: MARS, MARRS (Scot., Eng.) One who came from the parish of Mar (a tribal name), in Aberdeenshire; or from Marr (marsh), in Yorkshire; dweller at, or near, a marsh. Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. Barbara [email protected] wrote: > Who knows where this name originated and what its meaning is/was. > I lived in Santa Cruz and ran into two people that lived there within a 3 > year span and neither was related(as far as they knew) > JohnJohnston > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

LUDWIG: Broken down the "Lud" comes from "luod", meaning "loud" or "fame" and "wig" comes from "wic", meaning "battle". According to my first source ("German-American Names" by George F. Jones), the name was in use well before the practice came about of borrowing names from other neighboring countries, so that would make it quite old. According a second source ("A Dictionary of Surnames" by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges), the name is a German version of "Lewis". "from "lowis, Lodowicus", a Norman personal name composed of the Germanic elements 'hold' [fame] + 'wig' [war]. This was the name of the founder of the Frankish dynasty, recorded in Latin chronicles as 'Ludovicus' and 'Chlodovechus' [the latter form becoming Old French 'Clovis, Clouis, Louis', the former developing into German 'Ludwig']. Sorry, but none of my sources give any locations of origin. Barbara [email protected] wrote: > What part of germany does Ludwig seem to originate(I mean way back whenever) > What century is it first documented > Is Lewis its only meaning? In the 1850s my GGGRanddad was from kastle or > Kassell,uncertain which. > JohnJohnston > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

MARS - Also spelled MARRS. (English). Dweller at the mar(r)s or meres. A mere is a lake or a pond; sometimes the sea; sometimes an arm of the sea. Say, JJ, are you the JJ now living in Palm Springs? Gary Radcliffe

KNAP - (Eng. and Scan.) Dweller at the top of a hill or a knoll. The "Bel" prefix could mean there was a bell on the hill. But Bel is an ancient English name, meaning uncertain but found in numerous names such as Bellingham, Belson, Belton. Bel could also be from the French for beautiful hill but it comes much to late in time to have influenced Belknap. Sorry I couldn't come up with something more satisfactory. Gary Radcliffe

Thanks for the lookup, Barbara. Deeply appreciated, as always. The "Caccia" in Cacciamatta may have something to do with a hunter as in chicken cacciatore, i.e., chicken a la hunter. Gary Radcliffe

Who knows where this name originated and what its meaning is/was. I lived in Santa Cruz and ran into two people that lived there within a 3 year span and neither was related(as far as they knew) JohnJohnston

What part of germany does Ludwig seem to originate(I mean way back whenever) What century is it first documented Is Lewis its only meaning? In the 1850s my GGGRanddad was from kastle or Kassell,uncertain which. JohnJohnston

Hello again, My name is "Billy" of course not "Builly"!!! Billy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Stranney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: [SURNAME-ORIGINS] Introduction > Hi everybody! > > I'm new to this list and don't know what's expected yet so I'll keep this first email short. If more detail is required please just let me know. I am interested in the origins and meaning of the surname "Straney". Variations of Straney, I have found, are "Stranie, Strany, Stranay, Stranny, Stranney and Strainey. People of that name have lived from at least 1680s onwards in Co Down N Ireland, Southern Scotland, North-West England and Isle of Man. The major movements of these Straneys have been to USA mainly; a smaller number to Canada; a smaller number still to New South Wales Australia. > I have an "internet friend" who lives in USA who is very interested in this same name and its origins. I intend persuading him to join this list! I'll say no more for now. I would like advice from the list administrator as to what is expected here. I did look for archival material to browse but couldn't find any. I assume the list is very new. > > I would very much appreciate any help or assistance anyone can give me with the above. I'll return the favour if I can. > > > Best Regards, > > > Builly. > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

STRANEY - (Irish) Just guessing here but it might be related to Strahan. Generally speaking, the meaning would be something like "poet" or "scribe" or "clerk." Strahan is actually Celtic in origin. Gary Radcliffe

Hi everybody! I'm new to this list and don't know what's expected yet so I'll keep this first email short. If more detail is required please just let me know. I am interested in the origins and meaning of the surname "Straney". Variations of Straney, I have found, are "Stranie, Strany, Stranay, Stranny, Stranney and Strainey. People of that name have lived from at least 1680s onwards in Co Down N Ireland, Southern Scotland, North-West England and Isle of Man. The major movements of these Straneys have been to USA mainly; a smaller number to Canada; a smaller number still to New South Wales Australia. I have an "internet friend" who lives in USA who is very interested in this same name and its origins. I intend persuading him to join this list! I'll say no more for now. I would like advice from the list administrator as to what is expected here. I did look for archival material to browse but couldn't find any. I assume the list is very new. I would very much appreciate any help or assistance anyone can give me with the above. I'll return the favour if I can. Best Regards, Builly.

BELKNAP (English) Dweller on the top of the hill. Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. Barbara (That is all my source says on the subject. Would have liked a bit more, but I guess a little is better than none. <S>) "James H. Belknap" wrote: > Hi, > > I have been told by numerous people that BELKNAP means > "pretty hill or hilltop" I do know that my branch of > the family used the name first about 1600 in > Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England. Would > appreciate your comments. > > James H. Belknap > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

SHACKLEFORD - (English) Found in Surrey. The -ford element speaks for itself as a water crossing place. The -shackle probably meant the crossing was eased by the place- ment of shackles or staples. Gary Radcliffe

SHACKLEFORD (English) One who came from Shackleford (Shackel's ford), in Surrey. COPIA ? Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. Barbara Robert Hatcher wrote: > Hi List, > > Could someone please tell me what the surnames Shackleford and Copia mean and their origins? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > Jennifer > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

May I have a lookup on these two Italian names? DE MEO CACCIAMATTA Thanks, Gary Radcliffe

Couldn't find any of the spellings you give, but did find: STRAINGE, STRANEO, STRANI, STRANIERI, STRANIERO, STRANIO, STRANO (English [1st one], Italian [all the rest]) Variations of "STRANGE", nickname for a newcomer to an area. Source: A Dictionary of Surnames by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges. and: STRAIN, STRAINE (Ir.) Anglicized form of "Strahan". \ STRAHAN (Ir., Sc.) Grandson of "Struthan" (poet); variant of "Strachan" \ STRACHAN (Scot., Ir.) One who came from Strachan (valley field), in Kincardineshire; grandson of Struthan (poet). Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. Barbara William Stranney wrote: > Hi everybody! > > I'm new to this list and don't know what's expected yet so I'll keep this first email short. If more detail is required please just let me know. I am interested in the origins and meaning of the surname "Straney". Variations of Straney, I have found, are "Stranie, Strany, Stranay, Stranny, Stranney and Strainey. People of that name have lived from at least 1680s onwards in Co Down N Ireland, Southern Scotland, North-West England and Isle of Man. The major movements of these Straneys have been to USA mainly; a smaller number to Canada; a smaller number still to New South Wales Australia. > I have an "internet friend" who lives in USA who is very interested in this same name and its origins. I intend persuading him to join this list! I'll say no more for now. I would like advice from the list administrator as to what is expected here. I did look for archival material to browse but couldn't find any. I assume the list is very new. > > I would very much appreciate any help or assistance anyone can give me with the above. I'll return the favour if I can. > > Best Regards, > > Builly. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

DE MEO (Italian) Descendant of Meo, a pet form of names so ending, as Bartolomeo and Tomeo; also a pet form of Matteo, Italian form of Mathias (gift of Jehovah). Source: New Dictionary of American Family Names by E.C. Smith. Barbara (Sorry, couldn't find the other name in any of my sources.) [email protected] wrote: > May I have a lookup on these two Italian names? > > DE MEO > > CACCIAMATTA > > Thanks, Gary Radcliffe > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB